Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 6 and Z Flip 6: Refined, not redefined

[@sparky6757]

What I like about the Z Fold is that - it leans into the fact it's a foldable, and its outer screen is better optimized to use in one hand than a typical phone is. If I want a wider screen I'll open it, and if I'm not opening it it's because I don't want a wider screen right now - resources are pumped into durability and reliability every year, rather than into being flashy - since the design language stays more or less the same each time, I don't need to worry about an aspect of the phone that I like going away next time I upgrade So refinements that don't change much over the last gen? That's perfect for me. I'm not upgrading my phone every year anyway, and those refinements add up. I'm upgrading unusually quickly this year (have a Fold 4, and that model was a bad year of durability- getting off the ship before my trade in value sinks to the bottom of the ocean), and even with only two years of refinements I'm looking forward to my phone being less of a gimmick/novelty. Fold 4 is bulky, a little unwieldy, and I'm constantly mildly worried it's gonna self destruct. The 5 and 6 didn't change much, but what they did change was major strides towards making those things not the case.

[@PortableMediaReviews]

You get a like from me because of the bottom of the ocean line lol

[@NeonLine1982]

With no cameras and battery upgrades, The fold 5 is a better buy.

[@califpv]

Wouldn't say better buy, but don't "upgrade" if you have an F5

[@shaukatkhan3763]

You right fold 5 is a better buy

[@ezoez7548]

Rn its on sale for preorder. Its goated, without the sale z5 is better

[@snowyfall753]

Depends if 7 years of upgrades matters. If you are planning to have it for many years. Resale value would probably be better because people rather pay for a used phone that will get upgrades. I am writing this on a Note 20 Ultra, that I bought about a year after its release. I did not get last big OS update, only got two in total over the years. Resale value quite low.

[@rayonwilliamssportsandfun2106]

Ai

[@kevinh4042]

Thanks, this convinced me to order a Oneplus Open

[@Bravehearts_Colston]

Me too, the one plus open has specs that shatter this phone and it's last years. Samsung drop it doing this

[@atorbtech]

using it for the past 4 months. I am very happy . Camera is way way better than Samsung. No to mention much faster charging speed and better speakers

[@rj8954]

Tested it for a week, returned it. Can't stand the huge camera bump.

[@obiwan2906a]

The oneplus open is so much better than this.. Better cameras and less crease too. Not to mention cheaper.

[@atorbtech]

@@obiwan2906a I am most happy with my OnePlus Open. No issues. Great device.

[@fizziefizzer]

Finally had hands on with the Fold in the store. While the small hardware changes are nice and creates a different feel in hand, I hate the fact that there aren’t any major upgrade in the inside. I pre-ordered one, but I just wish they’d make it a much more substantial change in the upgrades.

[@Nox_Bishop]

Coming from the Fold 3, the changes from the 4, 5 and now 6 is worth it for the upgrade now

[@bet9898]

Don't do it , I got the fold 3 which is still plenty fast ,you couldn't pay me to get the 6 , I'm not paying another $2,000 for minor upgrades, no thank you... OnePlus and Google are on their first try and did foldables the way most people want them , bigger screen on the front, better cameras , we're going on the 6th generation and it's the same design , same cameras, ...can you say Apple ?

[@Nox_Bishop]

@@bet9898 Unfortunately the alternatives aren't available in Australia

[@CharlesVanexX]

I'd do it. I got $1200 off for my trade in. Not sure how much you could get but I'm stoked for mine coming in.

[@madrat5176]

I like the refinements this time with the Fold 6. Thinner, bigger front screen and the silver is very nice. I also like the squared off design. The rounded nonsense always looked forced and out of place. No, it’s not a big upgrade or redesign, but it does solve the little issues of prior models. I’ll definitely preorder

[@marcochavanne]

I’m digging the new design and improved water protection. Just wish they at least matched the camera performance of the OnePlus Open.

[@kenallen9142]

I've had Z Folds 2-5, def a fan. This time, I'm holding out for the rumored Z Fold 6 slim / ultra.

[@1860mc]

Got fold 5, and the front screen is just too narrow to use comfortably. Was hoping the 6 would correct this. For me, it's a 5 with a few very minor changes. Very disappointed.

[@ScriptOn2]

Same. I ended up trading the Fold 5 and getting the S24U. I was really excited to see if the Fold 6 would solve some of my pain points (huge center screen bump, impossible to comfortably use a stylus over it, extremely mediocre camera quality, awkward to use outer screen aspect ratio) but this doesn't seem to change much :/

[@CharlesVanexX]

It did widen the outer display though. What's the problem? That was always my gripe but I'm finally going for the fold for this reason.

[@troycampbell1781]

The price is still high and nothing new with these phone

[@nawabifaissal9625]

samsung gonna go the apple way lol

[@theycallme_nightmaster]

why do you people think the phone has to be widly different every year? Its just every improvement they've made over the past year. No one is forcing you to buy a new phone every year lmao idiot

[@phil-n5t]

You obviously haven't got a clue!

[@Brandonv0713]

@@phil-n5t I think the 30 plus people who agree with that comment have a “clue”. They want something truly “new”

[@phil-n5t]

@brandonvalles55 yea, well, you know what they say "opinions are like assholes" we all have one!

[@backnu]

So it's basically the same phone , but Samsung told the influencers to focus on weight and size. Got it. I'm going to go weigh my watch, with a new ergonomic weight band. It has more holes and different colors. Maybe a titanium lock 😂. 1) the front screen should be larger. 2) for the price, it should have the S23 Ultra cameras. I'll deal with a slightly thicker phone for better cameras. 3) stop pushing AI as a feature. Phones from years ago can run AI.

[@albertiglesias5309]

I'll hold on to my Zf4. Although it's good to know Samsung still offering crazy value towards a trade in.

[@SamuelHernandez-kk3oz]

As a person who genuinely prefer compact phones and one handed use, i like that samsung went wider but still retained a "narrower than normal" screen

[@corneldragomir]

Whats new... Price... +20%

[@wantedx575]

Still got it broke boy

[@chideramolokwu9558]

In the UK the price is the same

[@nawabifaissal9625]

@@wantedx575 good for you little sheep, keep buying the same product, it's worth it 😘

[@theycallme_nightmaster]

the screen durability improvements are what set these phones apart and what make the newer versions worth it. No way in hell google or oneplus has the screen tech and R&D samsung has

[@Terrorbrot]

It might not be saying much but this was probably the biggest upgrade since the 2 imo (wich I'm still holding on to)

[@Subbias2024]

They didnt even give the fold the gorilla armor....thats a deal breaker...ive had my s24 ultra for 6 months and not a single scratch. Plus the anti reflective nature is absurdly good.

[@Bravehearts_Colston]

Yes samsung has really robbed us this year I'm running from this rubbish

[@anthonyibiam7167]

I have one old S ultra 23 lying around somewhere, so I’ll use that to trade in and pay with Affirm , am still keeping my S 24ultral

[@gurnealsingh2012]

Waiting for flossy Carter's review on it and waiting for the new one plus open

[@thegnomegang6825]

Literally 😅

[@deltaechomusicnh555]

Flossy said he won't buy it if it has a narrow screen. So he won't be reviewing it.

[@thegnomegang6825]

@@deltaechomusicnh555 is the screen that narrow it looks like a note

[@thegnomegang6825]

@@deltaechomusicnh555 is the screen that narrow it looks like a note

[@gurnealsingh2012]

@@deltaechomusicnh555 yea man I don't know why they don't make it like the one plus

[@Adrian890722]

Has the crafted black still got the glass back and smooth

[@BearableWhale9]

Shame that they don't include cooler colors for the fold series. Been with it since the fold 2 and always end up with that blue color

[@bruceadkins9147]

How long does those screens last? Heard after a year or so issues start to develop

[@Rifted1]

6 Generations of the same phone designs but of course gimmick AI features are more important.

[@ralphpal]

Just preordered it Fold.6 It cost.650 With a fold 5 trade in

[@kodymiller1602]

Nice

[@mastersirus1985]

Fold 5 1800 + 650 = Actual Fold 6 cost 2450 lol

[@LewisMacdonaldMedia]

Still no s pen (Z Pen?) slot to actually store it in the device and not some silly cover

[@Peterstarzynskitech]

The yellow does look pretty good.

[@rjohn171987]

Well better wait for good Swappa deals 😅 that price is so steep

[@brando3424]

too many complainers are sounding off in the comments section

[@49ers_red_and_gold2]

I still have the Z fold 4. They need to work more on water resistance. 😑

[@-c-.]

That and the crease, other companies are able to eliminate most of the crease where as samsung still make it stick out like a sore thumb.

[@ylle45]

​@@-c-. Ccp phone foldables have no dust and water resistance afaik and poor software update

[@ayubious]

fold 6 is an absolute nothingburger of an "update"

[@baileyyeager1376]

I was on the fence to upgrade from my fold 4. But with pre-order and trade in I can get it for 750 bucks. Not too bad

[@ylle45]

Just preordered this with s24 utra trade in package, just ignored the haters and no way I will buy a chinese phones😂

[@weege001]

im a samsung guy, but im getting the vivo x fold 3 pro... that is larger and it comes with a charger too.. for the same price

[@HA-hr3qx]

I thought they wanted to make it wider? Why is it the same size AGAIN 🙄

[@TheBoolishCitizen]

I been iPhone user for a long time but damn this phone makes me want to switch

[@tokyodragonmasterlee409]

Awesome

[@PeterProum-pf4tl]

Stop whinging bout the price you plebs, Im a roofer and this phone has changed the way i run my business. I dont need a laptop or tablet anymore because this phone is 2in1. Id pay 5k for this phone just for the convenience.

[@gurnealsingh2012]

No built in S pen sucks

[@podracer35]

Seriously... Still waiting for that Galaxy NoteBook

[@edt723]

Meh, the Honor Magic V3 looks more exciting

[@raymondhachmishvili2483]

still the screen would suffer from horizontal lines within a year...

[@saurabhmanocha3812]

Can anyone check if youtube "playback in feeds" feature available on samsung fold devices?

[@davidyang9902]

I think I'd take the OnePlus open over the fold. Slightly disappointed

[@Extra6621]

Why?

[@ayxangarayev6441]

I would rather buy a phone from a recommended A brand than from a Chinese B brand.

[@luqmans7]

Goodluck.

[@corneldragomir]

@@davidyang9902 I have a one plus open... It's superb. After 15 years with Samsung is was time to go with the innovation and I don't have any regrets. Screens are bright and soft is smooth, multitasking is far superior then Samsung, screen has almost no creese, premium materials. Ohh boy... I made the best decision . PS: Before I tested Honor magic V2 who is even more beautiful than Oneplus, but the soft was a nightmare for me.

[@dawickednest]

​@ayxangarayev6441 Apple mindset huh?

[@TheForbidden_1ne]

Sounds like a huge missed opportunity on Samsung part. Either way hopefully I'd be able to snag a fold 5 on price drop once these release

[@loitersquadX]

Wait for fold 7. Get a s24 ultra. This phone is not a big enough upgrade. Although nice. It needs better battery and 2 mm wider screen.

[@Solowolfman3039]

If Australia gets the google Pixel 9 pro fold, I will get that instead.

[@lizzam]

7:23 it's impressive that the AI was able to decipher that drawing as a bird and not a rectangle-tailed mini T-rex

[@WilliamH.JeffersonJr.-bw2dd]

I will wait for flossy Carter's review because most of these tech reviewers are not telling the truth. The only real upgrade was the price. There's a big difference between slightly larger outer frame and larger. Samsung is no longer a company I trust or will buy from when it comes to cell phones

[@weege001]

vivo x fold pro 3 is flossys choice before he tears this one down

[@guygoodwin]

agreed

[@katinasoutherland7693]

I agree to a point but Floss, is on Samsung 🥜 to hard for me.

[@cesarsalgadosalgado2199]

Instead of adding additional AI features they could've fixed wireless charging and fixed the hinge

[@GeorgeSturgis17]

I'll just order a new case for my fold 5, call it a day and no to fold 6.

[@aranicaceres6173]

I have a fold 4 is there any difference to the fold 6

[@mrjsm88]

Really ?

[@cesarsalgadosalgado2199]

Why does Samsung have wireless charging if it doesn't even work great if you charge it the phone gets too hot and might damage the battery

[@green9227]

It's a backup charging method, so if you charging port fails, you still can charge or be sol after the battery dies if you don't have wireless charging.

[@cesarsalgadosalgado2199]

@@green9227 I know but the wireless charging it's way worse than Apple's wireless charging. If you charge your z fold 4 and z fold 5 you get this notification saying phone is too hot to charge and if you keep charging the phone you get a loud alarm to disconnect the phone from wireless charging and cable charging until the phone is cool off

[@Displays.1234.]

After 6 years have folds and they still can't get the basic size and shape right it's like a small child's toy....

[@WatchfulHunter]

Foldable screens always have and always will have annoying center lines and split with repeated folding. It's the basic physics of molecular structures. Learn your physics and chemistry. Like constant dripping water creates holes in solid rock over time. So repeated folding will split a screen. Samsung knows these folding screens will fail much sooner than a traditional touch screen. That's why they are producing and pushing them. My neighbor's folding phone screen failed within a year.

[@yanyan-h4v]

i just cant afford it. only in my dreams.

[@justinkimble4654]

1,900 is way too high for any phone!

[@optimusprime3484]

Aspect ratio of the inner display still cuts down the size of videos to be the same as a typical large screen slab phone.

[@veryboringname.]

If watching video is the main thing you use a phone for, then the Fold probably isn't for you. That said, I find large-screen slab phones more difficult to use one-handed when I just want to read something or check messages compared to the narrower Fold.

[@dademack3544]

@@veryboringname. narrower but thicker, probably the same amount of reach required if not more for a folding phone, vs slab, cause math you know.

[@veryboringname.]

@@dademack3544 That's not correct, at least with my hand. I have the Pixel 7 Pro and the Fold 5. I definitely can't reach the other side of the screen with my thumb.

[@smetljesm2276]

Nice! First commet. Nice looking phones but nothing revolutionary technology wise. They are lazy because of a good support and brand name.

[@alauddinrosli1092]

Lol..if you use the phone for longggg time, then you will know how terrible those sharp edges grip on your hand.

[@andy0995]

I've seen the other reviews that the inner camera in Z Fold 6 still trash. For that price, I'll get an iPad mini and Z Flip 6

[@veryboringname.]

What do you use the inner camera for?

[@andy0995]

@@veryboringname. Video call, take a larger screen group selfie lol. It doesn't justify the price being so expensive yet the inner camera specs are trash

[@veryboringname.]

@@andy0995 I see...I only use the inside camera for video calls so quality isn't much of a concern for me. I always use the rear camera for group selfies and everything else... works really well for me as I can see the preview on the outer screen. I end up with a better image than any other phone's front selfie camera.

[@nzs3e251]

OnePlus open

[@Displays.1234.]

The fold 6 is still far too narrow and far too small Samsung have had 6 years now and they still can't get the basic things right, it's about time I started to sack people....

[@sascha...]

Very disappointed with everything Samsung released during this event. I thinking of going to an iphone finally if the s25 ultra is as bad as these.

[@Displays.1234.]

Why would anybody want to pay this much money when it is far too narrow and far too small.....

[@Elementaliti]

What a disappointment. I can only hope the OnePlus Open 2 nails it.

[@MWNWN16]

Honor magic v2 fold is still the better phone

[@Kapnoullas]

The sacrifice on software for the honour phone makes it a hard pass for me.

[@MWNWN16]

@@Kapnoullas it runs on Android mate and supported for 5 plus year's. I own one and its better than any Samsung fold..

[@cosmicreaverkassadin1143]

@@Kapnoullasandroid OS in general is terrible, too much bloatware and not optimized

[@Displays.1234.]

All they're giving us is crappy AI which is completely fake and for children....

[@KDONeal1]

Brokies are mad 😆 🤣 😂

[@Lancerianz]

Still prefer my Oppo Find N3. Fold 6 looks so bulky

[@bismar1204]

Nothing new, just a price increase.

[@justinkimble4654]

TRUE

[@atorbtech]

Just buy the Oneplus Open and be happy.

[@anaguma90]

I've been waiting for these to lose the butt-ugly crease. I'm still waiting...

[@1v1me_]

Stop being poor and just buy one

[@anaguma90]

@@1v1me_ You sad, sad little man.

[@SidM7]

1st comment!

[@TheChico868]

Yawn Samsung

[@MinhPham0407]

SS should have reduced the price, not increased 🫣

[@IBeSwyft]

Still no S Pen

[@staceytaylor8194]

It does have an S pen.