Samsung Neo G8 Review - Total Overkill? 4K 240hz!

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MinimalisTech

MinimalisTech

Күн бұрын

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@MinimalisTech
@MinimalisTech Жыл бұрын
Find the Neo G8 Here! - geni.us/SAMSUNGNEOG8
@joshuaharris9448
@joshuaharris9448 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this compared the the ROG Swift PG32UQR. Since they are the same price I'm stuck between which one to get. One is IPS and the other is VA. Flat panel vs curved. Ect.
@ReformMsia
@ReformMsia Жыл бұрын
I am still looking to buy a gaming monitor for PS5 please recommend a suitable one
@noahlara126
@noahlara126 Жыл бұрын
Which console do you prefer?My son wants a next gen console but I don't know which one to get.
@MinimalisTech
@MinimalisTech Жыл бұрын
@@noahlara126 Overall, in terms of affordability and value, the Xbox Series S is great! I'd imagine your son would love it
@MinimalisTech
@MinimalisTech Жыл бұрын
@Smoke KingMan I was peeping that, I wouldn't game on it but I want that badly for productivity and work. Love me ultrawides. I only have the Huawei Mate GT 21:9 :( I'll have to get the G9 one day
@TJEDITZ97
@TJEDITZ97 Жыл бұрын
The monitor isn't even the flex here, its when he said his him and his wife enjoy playing overwatch together XD
@Swegster369
@Swegster369 Жыл бұрын
Lucky f-ing guy
@jacklee6139
@jacklee6139 Жыл бұрын
Leave people wife alone man
@Free_Hugz
@Free_Hugz Жыл бұрын
Nice (Update) No longer nice it has 71 lifes now 😢
@nuclearwinter391
@nuclearwinter391 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, who wants this? I'm glad my girlfriend does something else.
@laurentiuspyo
@laurentiuspyo Жыл бұрын
@@nuclearwinter391 Your username checks out
@zoltanerdelyi5441
@zoltanerdelyi5441 Жыл бұрын
VRR for PS5 : you need to change the monitor refresh rate to 120hz and the VRR option will be available in the ps5 picture settings ( just a tip )
@theinfamousgamers
@theinfamousgamers Жыл бұрын
u know what the difr is w VRR ?
@zoltanerdelyi5441
@zoltanerdelyi5441 Жыл бұрын
@@theinfamousgamers I haven't noticed any difference weather VRR is on or off. I have never experienced screen tearing on the PS5 and I guess VRR is designed to eliminate screen tear like G-sync , similar to V-sync too but with significantly less latency... That's all I can say.
@3choblast3r4
@3choblast3r4 9 ай бұрын
@@zoltanerdelyi5441 VRR isn't for screen tear. VRR is meant to make the game smoother. Eg. if your game runs at 120 but regularly dips to lower frames. VRR makes sure the game still feels smooth and you don't notice the frame drops.
@Tomiply
@Tomiply 6 ай бұрын
@@zoltanerdelyi5441 It's not just tearing, it also makes stuttering less obvious, if it happens in a game.
@barackobama0101
@barackobama0101 6 ай бұрын
This might be dumb question but, if I want to set it to 120 hz, do I have to use the computer or can I just do it via the monitor’s own menu?
@diablodima
@diablodima Жыл бұрын
The best Samsung Odyssey Neo G(whatever) review, watched dozens. Keep going!
@magster823
@magster823 7 ай бұрын
I just bought this and cant wait to try it out ! Even when its overkill, this is a monitor you can have for many years to come . Dont have to think about monitors anymore
@daniel-tp8xp
@daniel-tp8xp 5 ай бұрын
I want to buy it tell me what do you think about him 😄
@joshua-ty2lu
@joshua-ty2lu Ай бұрын
que tal los Colores?? es mejor el oled?
@razoblicavanje4231
@razoblicavanje4231 5 ай бұрын
Great review! You speak clearly and precisely about the monitor, not showing it on camera and instead, giving us great views in games. Bravo.🎉
@DS-er4ng
@DS-er4ng 24 күн бұрын
I had serious scan line issues, primarily in blue and orange, with this monitor. The individual pixel lines were visible because one line would be a darker blue, and the one below it would be lighter, followed by a darker one, and so on. The only way to reduce this was to deactivate VRR (which made them less noticeable), but to eliminate them completely, you would need to set the screen to 120Hz with neither adaptive sync nor VRR enabled. I started reading about this, and it appears to be a widespread issue. I contacted Samsung, and initially, they claimed they had never heard of this before. However, they later admitted that it is a common problem with VA panels and this monitor in particular. Refunded.
@shaddprice3908
@shaddprice3908 Жыл бұрын
No scan lines @240hz like others have reported and shown. Not bad for 999 to myself Xmas present. I love this thing with pc and consoles.
@kolysion164
@kolysion164 Жыл бұрын
i have scanlines, refunded !!!!
@DS-er4ng
@DS-er4ng 24 күн бұрын
@@kolysion164 Same here. It was nuts. A friend of mine hade the same problem and refunded. If i had known that i would have never gone for the monitor. For that prices scan lines is not OK what so ever.
@iiTzIsaac
@iiTzIsaac Жыл бұрын
I bought this exact monitor and right off the bat there weren't any glaring issues but a few days later I noticed that there are quite a few dead pixels scattered around my screen. I'm going to call Samsung and try to get a replacement. I've been reading that dead pixels with this monitor unfortunately seem to be a common issue.
@iiTzIsaac
@iiTzIsaac Жыл бұрын
Update: called Samsung support and they told me to take my monitor to the UPS store so that it can be shipped to a Samsung repair center for repairs. I'm not sure how long it's going to take but all I really care about is that the dead pixels will get fixed and that they get the monitor back to me within a reasonable time frame.
@hodl-eth-6036
@hodl-eth-6036 Жыл бұрын
Keep us updated bro!
@robertobryant7778
@robertobryant7778 Жыл бұрын
I bought a return from eBay at a discount that had a row of 4 or 5 dead pixels. I decided to keep it but they started working after a few days.
@christ3423
@christ3423 Жыл бұрын
stuck pixels maybe, u can unstick them run them Pixel fixer vids on YT they do work.. my monitor been spot on no issues , Did you get it Replaced Itachi Uchiha ?
@xxoverkilllxx
@xxoverkilllxx Жыл бұрын
Apparently dead pixels are a problem with any monitor you get. During my research on which monitor to get all the reviews mentioned dead pixels and this was on all the popular monitors.
@erich9907
@erich9907 11 ай бұрын
Also wanted to mention, the biggest pain about this monitor is the matte finish on the screen. Its kind of a pain to keep clean. Distilled water works the best at not leaving smuges.
@Trevoloution
@Trevoloution 11 ай бұрын
Man I thought was the only one. I keep a jug of distilled water in my desk cab just for it. It's quite aggravating. I still haven't found the best microfiber clothe I must have it perfectly clean lol
@erich9907
@erich9907 11 ай бұрын
@@Trevoloution Same lol. I use a 2 microfiber system. One wipes clean and the other dry buff/polishes. Kind of need to do it in small bursts.
@Trevoloution
@Trevoloution 11 ай бұрын
@erich9907 That's a great idea. Definitely gonna try that 2 clothe system thanks for the advice!
@RaulEdu33
@RaulEdu33 9 ай бұрын
I have the same OCD issue, tried like 8 different cleaning solutions from office depot and amazon. Nothing beats distilled water and using 2 different types of microfiber, one for cleaning and the finer one for drying. The screen generates some static, a decent air purifier will help collect dust particles.
@An_Enraged_Pig
@An_Enraged_Pig 8 ай бұрын
I have never cleaned by screen, been 2 years. It’s clean
@1Chitus
@1Chitus Жыл бұрын
I’ve had 4 different gaming monitors in my 3 years of pc gaming, each one an update. Seeing this TRUILY future proof monitor is worth the spend in my book. (G7 Owner)
@trumpameri1638
@trumpameri1638 Жыл бұрын
G7 NEO 4k 160Hz perfectly fine for upcoming PS5 PRO 💪💪💪
@SickhamSickyMicky
@SickhamSickyMicky 7 ай бұрын
@@trumpameri1638nope I think it doesn’t have hdmi 2.1
@trumpameri1638
@trumpameri1638 7 ай бұрын
@@SickhamSickyMicky of course Samsung G7 NEO 4k 165hz has full power potential of HDMI 2.1 ... masterpiece Samsung high end 4K gaming monitor
@trumpameri1638
@trumpameri1638 7 ай бұрын
@@SickhamSickyMicky just choose right one... Samsung mini LED monitor 4k165hz G7 NEO.. 2.1 HDMI
@AlexPZero
@AlexPZero Жыл бұрын
I just got this monitor a week ago and I'm loving it so far however, I've been playing with the display settings and can't seem to find the best one. So my question is what are your settings that's been working for you?
@S4_QUATTROPOWER
@S4_QUATTROPOWER Жыл бұрын
I got the FV43U For 600 bucks cyber Monday deal, 4k HDR 144hz 10bit, HMD2.1 KVM, Type C port, 2 3.0 usb ports, QDOT Tech. I fucking love it.
@josephnorris4095
@josephnorris4095 8 ай бұрын
For me, I think that looks fantastic but, also for me, it lacks a curve and that is a deal breaker.
@S4_QUATTROPOWER
@S4_QUATTROPOWER 8 ай бұрын
@@josephnorris4095 Had the Neo G9 57" I returned it.
@rorynolan2322
@rorynolan2322 Жыл бұрын
To solve your mouse catching the foot issue, I'd just twist the feet more to the right and tilt the screen back towards you. Also if you don't need 240hz the neo g7 is very similar to this accept 160hz and will save you a bit of money
@james9031
@james9031 Жыл бұрын
With 4090 .240hz is also less now a days
@rorynolan2322
@rorynolan2322 Жыл бұрын
@@james9031 sure if you have that outrageously expensive GPU
@trumpameri1638
@trumpameri1638 Жыл бұрын
G7 NEO 4k 160Hz perfectly fine for upcoming PS5 PRO
@noobiamyes4853
@noobiamyes4853 Жыл бұрын
​@@rorynolan2322if you have this monitor you should have a powerful gpu
@rorynolan2322
@rorynolan2322 Жыл бұрын
@@noobiamyes4853 my original comment was stating to get the cheaper g7 monitor unless you do have a 4090 your not going to take advantage of the extra refresh of the g8 and there isn't any other difference between them
@CellarDoorCS
@CellarDoorCS Жыл бұрын
You can rotate the stand at the base by about 30 degree counterclockwise. Then use the articulating joint of the stand near the monitor to counter the direction - in order to center the monitor again. Might be worth a try.
@kirstenvanwassenhove9942
@kirstenvanwassenhove9942 Жыл бұрын
I love every second on it the games look so beautiful on it just no words
@alessandrofabietti5585
@alessandrofabietti5585 Жыл бұрын
That epiphone es-333 tom delonge signature is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@RichardSanchez137
@RichardSanchez137 Жыл бұрын
I'm using this monitor and it's beast if you get it for a good price. I picked it up during Black friday for around $900 shipped. I also love how EVERY PS5 owner..God of War seems to be their only game.
@rahul2571
@rahul2571 Жыл бұрын
How long have you been using Neo G8 ?? Have you noticed scanlines at 240 hz ?
@Buffoon420
@Buffoon420 Жыл бұрын
Just like cyberpunk for pc 😂
@3choblast3r4
@3choblast3r4 9 ай бұрын
lol at the god of war. I only have the first one on my ps5 but also bought this screen for my ps5. I got it for 700 during this black friday, but it was an insane price / sale and they quickly changed the price back to 1150
@kenneth_jensen
@kenneth_jensen Жыл бұрын
Great review 👍🙂 Have you considered the OLED G8? 🙂
@Goblue734
@Goblue734 Жыл бұрын
I’ve paired this with my RTX 4090. It’s amazing!
@nykko73
@nykko73 Жыл бұрын
Hi how is the monitor,I am running 4090 aswell
@ahmadsultankadir1
@ahmadsultankadir1 Жыл бұрын
Guys listen up... This is very important settings on Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 or G7 Neo is" Saturation " this give more color for both SDR and HDR. Well, best settings is " Saturation " with 58 or 60 or 70. I use 70 for both SDR and HDR. Depending on which movies or games to run. See and test what is fit best. Also important that " Local Dimming " to High or Auto. Sometimes better use with High and sometimes better use Auto, depend on. But you better use both High and Auto, However use most with High. "Local Dimming" is important for both SDR and HDR. This thing has do with Mini-LED. You can change " Contrast Enhancer " On or Off, if you like it. Use both of em. " Black Equalizer " 13 is great but you can change from 9 to 16 or to 20 if you like it. You can change Gamma Mode 1 or 2 or 3. i use 1 and 2. " Contrast " with 75 or 80 is fine and even more 100 if you like it. i use 75 and 80 and 100. Well better use with HDMI than DP. HDMI can get 12-bit color, with a lot color than 10-bit. But make sure set on output color depth 12-bit SDR in PC. This monitor model HDMI 2.1 can get only 120Hz max at 4K. If you guys wanna run with Displayport at 240 Hz but get only 10-bit color. This monitor support 12 bit color, That Amazing... ---- Like Viktor say: You have to know how to work the options on the monitor itself to be able to get these visuals! By Viktors Reality Name KZbin video: ODYSSEY NEO G8 4K 240hz CoreSync XBOX Cyberpunk 2077
@amirbarjakli3383
@amirbarjakli3383 Жыл бұрын
Thx for info. I'm getting my 4090 and this monitor next week. I'm very excited!! Will see how it will work with my 12700k
@ahmadsultankadir1
@ahmadsultankadir1 Жыл бұрын
​@@amirbarjakli3383 You are welcome.. Nice So you can set all games 4K max settings lol. I got RTX 3070 Ti lol with this monitor but work fine to set max at 4K but not all games anyway, Sometimes i have use medium or high for to 4K. Here is extra more info for my favorite settings to monitor Odyssey Neo G8
@ahmadsultankadir1
@ahmadsultankadir1 Жыл бұрын
***** Here is all my favorite settings list of both SDR and HDR ***** I tell you guys this Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 is very good monitor. But... You have to know how to work the options on the monitor itself to be able to get these visuals! But if you got the G7 Neo model then just try see if that good for you... This is very important settings with " Saturation " this give more color for to both SDR and HDR. Well, best settings is Saturation with 58 or 60 or 70. I use 70 for both SDR and HDR. Depending on which movies or games to run. See and test what is fit well best. Also important that " Local Dimming " to High or Auto. Sometimes better use with High and sometimes better use Auto, depend on. But you need use both High and Auto, However use often with High. If you like can use also with Low, but i never use Low. "Local Dimming" is important for both SDR and HDR. This thing has do with Mini-LED. You can change " Contrast Enhancer " On or Off, if you like it. " Black Equalizer " 13 is great but you can change from 9 to 16 or up to 20 if you like it. 9 to 16 is great " Contrast " with 75 and 80, 90 and 100 fine. You can change Gamma Mode 1 or 2 or 3. I use 1 and 2. Even you can change " Color Tone " I use Normal and Warm 1 and Natural. " Adaptive-Sync " is On this is good thing so you can use with G-Sync Compatible to enable if you wanna it. But make sure turn off V-Sync in game. If off G-Sync, you can use V-Sync. I don't use G-Sync due they are not support to all games also i don't need that. You can have " Adaptive-Sync " on and without use G-Sync and just enable V-Sync. If you turn off " Adaptive-Sync " You can use with " Response Time " and " Low Input Lag ". I don't use " Low Input Lag " Just keep on " Adaptive-Sync ". If you turn on " Adaptive-Sync " will work run with G-Sync or FreeSync. HDMI or DisplayPort both work to run with G-Sync or FreeSync. My " VRR Control " is On. Well better use with HDMI than DP. HDMI can get 12-bit color, with a lot color than 10-bit. But make sure set on output color depth 12-bit SDR in PC. This monitor model HDMI 2.1 get only 120Hz max at 4K. If you guys wanna run with DisplayPort at 240 Hz but get only 10-bit color. This monitor support 12 bit color, That Amazing... If you run HDMI on PC and don't forget turn off HDMI audio in Nvidia Control Panel or in Sound Control Panel, If you wanna use from motherboard audio ports or PC sound card. If you have problem monitor like when is flickering or glitching or other just turn off power in OSD buttons then turn on power. If this not help then just restart PC in Windows. Then is all good again. I think DP is better than HDMI for that Samsung Neo Odyssey G8. Almost zero issues for flickering or nothing at all. I think HDMI got more issue. This is just small problem, not big deal. I did try only with PC Windows DP & HDMI. I don't know about with Consoles at HDMI if have problem with flickering or other. I did read from someone comment and he said about Scanlines problem.. =========================================================================== What i learned watching hours of reviews 240HZ = GAMING ONLY (Scanlines are not noticeable while gaming ) 120HZ = OFFICE WORK / VIDEO (Eliminates scanlines) *Get used to scaling your MONTIOR depending on the type of work you are doing. *SWITCH TO 240hz while GAMING * SWITCH TO 120hz while doing OFFICE WORK =========================================================================== You know that settings on SDR will have different settings save from HDR on, If you run HDR will have other settings save. So you can have two options SDR and HDR settings for saves. Great right? ---- Like Viktor say: You have to know how to work the options on the monitor itself to be able to get these visuals! By Viktors Reality Name KZbin video: ODYSSEY NEO G8 4K 240hz CoreSync XBOX Cyberpunk 2077 --- Make sure change " OnScreen Display " > " Display Time " to 200 sec You should know they all my settings Picture Mode like Custom, FPS, RTS and ect ect mean just like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Just pick what fit well for right now. So this all my favorite settings list for SDR and HDR -------------------------------- This one settings is good when someone is tired on the eyes or feel too strong for light. Picture Mode Custom Brightness 43 between 80 43 or 65 or 80 is good Contrast 75 Sharpness 60 Color Tone Normal Red 50 Green 50 Blue 50 Gamma Mode 1 or 3 Saturation 50 or 58 Contrast Enhancer Off Black Equalizer 13 Local Dimming Auto SDR Or you can keep same at brightness 100, then change settings, Eye Care> Adaptive Picture On Min. Backlight 10 between 0 -------------------------------- Picture Mode FPS Brightness 100 Contrast 75 Sharpness 60 Color Tone Normal Red 50 Green 50 Blue 50 Gamma Mode 1 Saturation 70 or 58 Contrast Enhancer Off Black Equalizer 13 Local Dimming High SDR -------------------------------- Picture Mode RTS Brightness 100 Contrast 90 or 100 Sharpness 72 or 60 Color Tone Normal Red 50 Green 50 Blue 50 Gamma Mode 1 or 2 Saturation 70 or 58 Contrast Enhancer Off Black Equalizer 16 Local Dimming High SDR -------------------------------- Picture Mode RPG Brightness 100 Contrast 90 or 100 Sharpness 72 or 60 Color Tone Normal Red 50 Green 50 Blue 50 Gamma Mode 2 Saturation 70 or 58 Contrast Enhancer On or Off Black Equalizer 16 or 13 Local Dimming High SDR -------------------------------- Picture Mode Sports Brightness 100 Contrast 100 or 90 or 80 or 75 Sharpness 60 Color Tone Warm 1 Red 50 Green 46 Blue 40 Gamma Mode 1 or 2 Saturation 70 or 58 Contrast Enhancer Off Black Equalizer 13 Local Dimming High SDR -------------------------------- Picture Mode sRGB Brightness 100 Contrast ** Sharpness 60 Color Tone ** Red ** Green ** Blue ** Gamma Mode 1 or 2 Saturation 80 or 70 or 58 Contrast Enhancer Off Black Equalizer 13 Local Dimming High SDR -------------------------------- Picture Mode Cinema Brightness 100 Contrast 75 or 80 or 90 or 100 Sharpness 60 Color Tone Normal Red 50 Green 50 Blue 54 Gamma Mode 1 or 2 Saturation 70 or 58 Contrast Enhancer On Black Equalizer ** Local Dimming High SDR -------------------------------- This settings for HDR -------------------------------- Picture Mode Custom Brightness 100 Contrast 75 or 80 or 90 or 100 Sharpness 60 Color Tone Normal Red 50 Green 50 Blue 50 Gamma Mode 1 Saturation 50 or 58 Contrast Enhancer off Black Equalizer 13 Local Dimming High HDR -------------------------------- Picture Mode FPS Brightness 100 Contrast 75 or 80 or 90 or 100 Sharpness 60 Color Tone Normal Red 50 Green 50 Blue 50 Gamma Mode 1 Saturation 70 or 58 Contrast Enhancer Off Black Equalizer 13 Local Dimming High HDR -------------------------------- Picture Mode RTS Brightness 100 Contrast 90 or 100 Sharpness 72 or 60 Color Tone Normal Red 50 Green 50 Blue 50 Gamma Mode 1 or 2 Saturation 70 or 58 Contrast Enhancer Off Black Equalizer 16 Local Dimming High HDR -------------------------------- Picture Mode RPG Brightness 100 Contrast 75 or 80 or 90 or 100 Sharpness 60 Color Tone Natural Red 50 Green 50 Blue 50 Gamma Mode 2 or 1 Saturation 70 or 58 Contrast Enhancer On Black Equalizer 13 Local Dimming High HDR -------------------------------- Picture Mode Sports Brightness 100 Contrast 75 or 80 or 90 or 100 Sharpness 60 Color Tone Warm 1 Red 50 Green 46 Blue 40 Gamma Mode 2 or 1 Saturation 70 or 58 Contrast Enhancer On Black Equalizer 10 Local Dimming High HDR -------------------------------- Picture Mode sRGB Brightness 100 Contrast ** Sharpness 60 Color Tone ** Red ** Green ** Blue ** Gamma Mode 1 or 2 Saturation 80 or 70 or 58 Contrast Enhancer Off Black Equalizer 13 Local Dimming High HDR -------------------------------- Picture Mode Cinema Brightness 100 Contrast 75 or 80 or 90 or 100 Sharpness 60 Color Tone Normal Red 50 Green 50 Blue 54 Gamma Mode 1 or 2 Saturation 70 or 58 Contrast Enhancer On Black Equalizer ** Local Dimming High HDR
@amirbarjakli3383
@amirbarjakli3383 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmadsultankadir1 yeah so the settings u recommended can be used for pc right? Not only for ps5.
@ahmadsultankadir1
@ahmadsultankadir1 Жыл бұрын
@@amirbarjakli3383 I don't know much about the consoles. Use only PC. But i am sure they also good for consoles to play games for this all settings. BTW, You can also use " Black Level " to low and this look very nice on games and movie but they allow max 60 Hz Refresh Rate on PC and Consoles.
@DiegoMarzorati
@DiegoMarzorati 5 ай бұрын
Great info on the distance from the wall!!! Thanks!
@user-ny1uq5id8g
@user-ny1uq5id8g 2 ай бұрын
80cm best
@MushamazingTv
@MushamazingTv Жыл бұрын
I love it and I would be getting it in 2 week from now.. I do have the 32 G5 already and love it
@walterwhite2148
@walterwhite2148 Жыл бұрын
To get VRR working with the PS5 you need to limit the monitor to 120 hz
@Billy_the-cat
@Billy_the-cat Жыл бұрын
Thats OK for me. But do i need to limit it for gsync too?
@dnsean03
@dnsean03 Жыл бұрын
hey man! lol
@3choblast3r4
@3choblast3r4 9 ай бұрын
It's crazy to me how many people don't understand their own tech. They don't evne bother to look it up. I don't even have the screen yet and I know this.
@sunilpaulmathews5523
@sunilpaulmathews5523 Жыл бұрын
Nice review....what brand is your camera on the top of the monitor?
@super.spartan
@super.spartan 18 күн бұрын
Wish you had mentioned whether it's matte or glossy, that's the no. 1 deciding factor for me before getting a monitor. I hate matte screens
@od40k77
@od40k77 Жыл бұрын
When you get into monitors of this price range and caliber, manufacturers aren’t going to waste money trying to guess that the consumer will like the factory cable provided. Look at all of the options a person will decide when it comes to a cable: display port or hdmi, length, quality of cable, data capabilities, etc. Chances are when you buy a monitor like this you know the cable you want and the manufacturer was never going to guess what you wanted.
@MinimalisTech
@MinimalisTech Жыл бұрын
Actually straight up true, good point
@rorynolan2322
@rorynolan2322 Жыл бұрын
I don't know cables are pretty cheap and the should at least provide a cable that supports the monitors max capabilities. This being a pc monitor it would make sense to supply a display port cable I know it's easy and cheap to just get one yourself but there's nothing more annoying that finally getting your shiny new thing and finding out you can't properly test it out yet because there isn't a cable in the box
@od40k77
@od40k77 Жыл бұрын
@@rorynolan2322 I understand your point of view but I’d argue anyone buying THIS monitor either has the cable they want or intends to buy their own cable that they want. If the manufacturer is going to provide a high end display port cable at 6’ long, the cost of the cable is at least double if not triple by the time it’s passed onto the consumer. If a cable cost the manufacturer $5 it’ll be $20 by the time you pay for it, if not more depending on how many companies are in the distribution chain. This is exactly why they don’t supply the cable on high end displays
@rorynolan2322
@rorynolan2322 Жыл бұрын
@@od40k77 I'd disagree it's going to depend what there upgrading from I my old monitor happened to have dp 1.4 so I was fine to just swap out monitors but if you had a slightly older monitor then I'll likely only have dp 1.2 and wonder why you can't enable 240 Hz at 4k, you should never just assume the costmer is just going to know the difference. Also I don't know what you mean by high end cable? Any cable with the correct spec will do the job just as well as any other and those cables do not cost much, so I don't know why someone who would be in the market for a high end monitor like this would have a "special" cable in mind. I also don't agree that a cable is going to add 20£ onto the price if a cable would cost me £8 then it's going to cost them way less as they get them in bulk and the more expensive the monitor the less of a % increase in manufacturing costs a cable is going to add onto the price If your buying a 100£ monitor Vs 1000 the cable is making up far more of the cost of the product of the 100£ one meaning it's much easier for the manufacturer to eat the cost on the more expensive monitor. If you bought a ps5 ud be annoyed to find it didn't come with a hdmi 2.1 cable
@od40k77
@od40k77 Жыл бұрын
@@rorynolan2322 I’m assuming you don’t know a lot about manufacturing products and what the cost to consumer ends up being. Every cost that a manufacturer has ends up getting marked up anywhere from 1x to 3x (or more) by the time it reaches the consumer. I’m not going to explain business principles to you, but if you don’t know there is usually a 100% mark up each time an electronic product is bought and sold, you should stop posting comments on this subject. I don’t know how many high end monitors you have ever purchased but I have two very nice LG Ultragear monitors and neither of those monitors came with a monitor cable. I have my own cables, one 12’ and the other 15’. I’m glad LG didn’t bother to give me a cheap 6’ cable because it would’ve been a waste of my money, not LG’s. Samsung, LG, probably other makers that are producing high end monitors aren’t including monitor cables for a reason. You need to understand the product we’re talking about here. We’re talking about monitors that cost $800 or more. The people that buy these products are buying the monitor specifically and not the cable that may or may not come with it.
@kentglass3894
@kentglass3894 Жыл бұрын
amazing monitor
@rikoandrejcetin7549
@rikoandrejcetin7549 Жыл бұрын
What speakers would you recommend to use with this setup? Don't need something ultra, just basic so I can occasionally play fifa with friends and is easily connected. Thank you for your answer and help. P.S.: I got the monitor based upon your review, kinda like the overkill 😄
@Lord_Negatron
@Lord_Negatron Жыл бұрын
Choose your fighter LOL! Here I am on an LG 165hz 32inch, looking for something this 4090 to stretch its legs in 4K. ((My funds were allocated into the PC build overall, so 1440p it is.)) Great video, very informative. Samsung should thank you when I pull the trigger on purchase.
@theodnt
@theodnt 10 ай бұрын
Hi ! Which screen is better between the BenQ MOBIUZ EX3210U and the Samsung Odyssey Neo G8? It’s for playing story games like The Last Of Us, Spider-man on the PS5… Thank you 😊
@Psalm_23
@Psalm_23 Жыл бұрын
I wish it was flat screen. Why do samsung only have curved monitors?
@aangelo23
@aangelo23 Жыл бұрын
What's the maximum refresh rate you can get with your Mac?
@MonteMD
@MonteMD 9 ай бұрын
How is the ABL compared to the LG C2? The ABL on the C2 was bothering me a lot so I ordered a Neo G7 which seems to have the same ABL as the Neo G8 here. So I was curious if it seems to be brighter and dim less than the LG C2
@daviddadamo2290
@daviddadamo2290 Жыл бұрын
Trying to chose between this and the 34” Alienware RDQ QD OLED. 165 hz is fine for me. I guess I’ll need to see them both up close.
@nick-vq1ef
@nick-vq1ef Жыл бұрын
I am too. My problem with the alienware is i want 4k not 1440 p , but id prefer ooed to va. But va with 1000 dimming zones is probably still very good
@liav1609
@liav1609 Жыл бұрын
ill take oled all they way
@trumpameri1638
@trumpameri1638 Жыл бұрын
​@@liav1609OLED burn in and ABL OLED is not nice
@lemniscate2218
@lemniscate2218 Жыл бұрын
I like the monitor I bought it on sale 1077 after taxes but Turning on vrr and 240hz causes very little lines on blue colors
@ployth9000
@ployth9000 Жыл бұрын
I think that is scanlines
@lemniscate2218
@lemniscate2218 Жыл бұрын
@ployth9000 it's only noticeable at close range and blue colors
@JasonJtran
@JasonJtran Жыл бұрын
Wow fantastic review
@goldensperm7182
@goldensperm7182 Жыл бұрын
Lol @3:19 the intensity of your face there. Gamer face for sure.
@myaccount__7269
@myaccount__7269 Жыл бұрын
Did you try a different hdmi cable for your ps5? It should do 4k 60
@SilkSoul999
@SilkSoul999 Жыл бұрын
What Vesa arm would you recommend for the Neo G8??
@ZeqHDx
@ZeqHDx Жыл бұрын
1 thing to remember before buying this monitor is when using 240hz and actually achieving 200+ frames, scanlines become visible which is very obnoxious.
@HumbleDude46995
@HumbleDude46995 Жыл бұрын
Only if you have a crap gpu. I have a 4090 and no issues
@DrakonR
@DrakonR Жыл бұрын
​@@HumbleDude46995lol, it has nothing to do with GPU. What a poser.
@DS-er4ng
@DS-er4ng 24 күн бұрын
@@HumbleDude46995 My friend has 4090, and i have 4080 Super. Scan lines were big problems! As it has been for others i havev been talking to, no matter the card. I am glad that it worked out for you.
@MikeEH1000
@MikeEH1000 Жыл бұрын
Dude I spit my water out laughing when you were talking about popping off sick headshots …in bronze 😂
@QUANTUM4KGAMER
@QUANTUM4KGAMER Жыл бұрын
i got this too, good buy for 4000 gpu's, even though i have 3090 good enough for may be next 3-4 gen GPUs
@soro4494
@soro4494 Жыл бұрын
Does it run 240hz with the 3090 thinking of buying it because I have the 3090 myself.. please let me know
@MegaEpicKill
@MegaEpicKill Жыл бұрын
It’s not a real account it’s a scam reply
@QUANTUM4KGAMER
@QUANTUM4KGAMER Жыл бұрын
@@soro4494 Depends on game, games like CS-go etc no issue other usually run at 90-100 fps ultra settings, with dlss you can get more, this monitor is future proof, will relevant for 4-6 years easily
@3choblast3r4
@3choblast3r4 9 ай бұрын
How deep is your desk? Thankfully I play on very high sens and am a wrist aimer. I bought a new desk that is 140x60. I kinda hope that's enough for me to comfortably sit without having the stand in the way. Don't want to have to buy a a new stand lol
@AB12355
@AB12355 10 ай бұрын
What’s the height like at the lowest??? Can the height go below 20?? Great review btw!
@Mayhemz.95
@Mayhemz.95 Жыл бұрын
why not go for the lg c2 42 120hz? or the new alienware oled 3440x1440p 175hz?
@jeanpaulalmeida
@jeanpaulalmeida Жыл бұрын
You should really try out the fantastic LG EVO OLED C2 42 inches. The best monitor both for PC & consoles in my opinion! I myself are using it together with a high end GPU RTX 3090 and believe me when I say, it's the best experience I've ever had... 😊👌🏻
@mattgreenfield8038
@mattgreenfield8038 Жыл бұрын
You must have a 4090. I had a 3090 before I got 4090 about 6 weeks ago. There is no such thing as a high end gaming PC without a 4090. The way overpriced and cut down 4080, and the 7900XTX disaster from AMD are both 2 tiers below 4090. This monitor is only for 4090 owners.
@joshuaharris9448
@joshuaharris9448 Жыл бұрын
How is the auto dimming? Is it noticeable while gaming?
@CutzMcOnions
@CutzMcOnions Жыл бұрын
@@mattgreenfield8038 jfc just say u wanna fanboy about nvidia and move on. The man is just suggesting c2 over here.
@mattgreenfield8038
@mattgreenfield8038 Жыл бұрын
@@CutzMcOnions i got the same LG 42 C2 that this commentor got. Just got it black Friday. I'm just agreeing with the actual monitor review, the only way to really enjoy a 4k 240hz monitor is with a 4090. It's literally a quote from this video review. He says you will only really get the most out of this monitor if you have a 4090. And this wise man commented how he had just purchased the beautiful LG 42 C2. Unless we see an OLED go up to 240hz, there's no need to sacrifice the picture quality that the LG C2 offers. I had a 3090FE. I now have a Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090. If I still had my 3090...I don't think I would consider my PC "high end". That's how amazing this 4090 is. It is multiple tiers above the next group of GPU. Last Gen, the 3080s, 3090s, 6900XTs... were all kinda close to eachother. This time it's not close. I don't think there has ever been this wide of a margin before
@jeanpaulalmeida
@jeanpaulalmeida Жыл бұрын
@@mattgreenfield8038 Sorry to disagree ! I use a RTX 3090 GPU and it plays very nice together with the LG C2. 120 fps on COD with DLS on...!
@Rey_Sharp
@Rey_Sharp Жыл бұрын
Great vid! I wanna see u review Lgs Gq 950
@adanmortur
@adanmortur Жыл бұрын
Nice video !!! How is a 4k monitor with a VA panel???
@theavangelist
@theavangelist Жыл бұрын
I have one, the RGB lighting is absolute garbage, I've had to really muck about with vesa mounts to get it to hold up but I did the same ditched the stand and free'd up desk space
@TellurdogIsayhi
@TellurdogIsayhi Жыл бұрын
Man I wish samsung would make a flat version of this… I want to wall mount it, and mounting a curved display just seems goofy
@faizdin09
@faizdin09 Жыл бұрын
Anything flat that has this specs?
@user-tj7vr7pg9u
@user-tj7vr7pg9u 5 ай бұрын
Nice review 7:19 7:19 it’s not an overkill if you want the best get the best but if you want something cheaper, go for something cheaper for me I want the best picture quality display I can get that’s how I roll
@aizen2491
@aizen2491 Жыл бұрын
I will choose lg C2 42inch over any other monitor …at least until will come up a 32 inch oled monitor
@trumpameri1638
@trumpameri1638 Жыл бұрын
Problem with C2 is limited on 120hz and future PS5 PRO probably be higher than 120
@The_Mercenary_Ro
@The_Mercenary_Ro Жыл бұрын
@@trumpameri1638 i highly doubt about that
@nhatanhvu8847
@nhatanhvu8847 7 ай бұрын
Hi bro, sorry for strange question, can you really run 4K at 120HZ on PS5? as Sadly I could make it over 60HZ :( THanks a lot
@vi0l3ncia67
@vi0l3ncia67 Жыл бұрын
Do you think its good for editing videos and imagens, better than IPS?
@giff74
@giff74 Жыл бұрын
3:03 LOL I know the feeling!!
@raxjax8787
@raxjax8787 Жыл бұрын
I have it rn and watch this video thru it lol. Best display ever… definitely get it if you have a beefy gpu to take full advantage. Don’t get it if you have a mid to lower tier GPU because you can’t push 4K at high refresh, it’s a waste of money at this point
@krullexneo
@krullexneo Жыл бұрын
But wouldn't it be better to upgrade the display first then the PC? If you can do 4k 60 then you can enjoy it still but then when you upgrade your PC it's like getting a new monitor too because now you're enjoying 4k high refresh rate, it's a purchase that will keep getting better as you upgrade your computer. If you have let's say a 1440p 144hz monitor and you're already capable of pushing that resolution at those frame rates why upgrade your PC?
@faizdin09
@faizdin09 Жыл бұрын
Does it do good on ps5?
@3choblast3r4
@3choblast3r4 9 ай бұрын
@@faizdin09 According to Rtings it's the best monitor you can get for the ps5 right now
@jirotrom
@jirotrom Жыл бұрын
I wonder what you would think of the neo G9?
@makeamericagreatagain881
@makeamericagreatagain881 Жыл бұрын
Scam alert 🚨
@Gosagen93
@Gosagen93 Жыл бұрын
@MinimalisTech I hear alot of people saying 4k 240hz is overkill, but for games you need to utilize 240hz, can u just not downscale to 1440p. And in games you want to have 4k, you go back to the original settings, whilst accepting lower framerate? Making these specs for a monitor a VERSATILE monitor instead of OVERKILL?
@dugolddobyslaw2693
@dugolddobyslaw2693 Жыл бұрын
Yes you are exactly correct, people just moan too much and are never happy (or jealous that they can’t afford this godly monitor) 😂😂
@Playboypaintball
@Playboypaintball Жыл бұрын
love the video
@vith4553
@vith4553 Жыл бұрын
6:32 yikes this is why mini led isn't gonna be my choice
@Free_Hugz
@Free_Hugz Жыл бұрын
Did they fix the flickering and micro stutter issues yet?
@bloodline271
@bloodline271 Жыл бұрын
Whats the spoiler what monitor did you choose?
@serrael-182
@serrael-182 Жыл бұрын
I like the tom delonge guitar.
@arnobdman
@arnobdman Жыл бұрын
this is a very specfic question, but what are your graphics settings for mw2
@rickyembers7634
@rickyembers7634 Жыл бұрын
Ergotron HX Monitor Arm might be a bit overkill for this monitor but at least you know you'll be able to mount anything to it.
@jonathaningram8157
@jonathaningram8157 7 ай бұрын
240Hz is really useful for frame generation because you can't framecap and tearing will appear.
@haloplayer6942
@haloplayer6942 Жыл бұрын
Plan on buying a pc that can play games in 4k so I wanna get this moniter but there may be games where I play 1440p to get closer to that 240 refresh rate, it is possible to play at 1440p for higher frames?
@aznpballa
@aznpballa Жыл бұрын
Can this monitor resize itself in the UI for a 24 or 25 inch size? That is my preferred size for competitive fps. Think lots of the high end monitors coming out now have this feature.
@joshuaharris9448
@joshuaharris9448 Жыл бұрын
You will probably never see a 4k monitor under 27 inches. You really don't see a difference at 4k when it's under 27.
@rorynolan2322
@rorynolan2322 Жыл бұрын
There is an option that crops the image into ultrawide that iv tried but don't use because it disables HDR Im not sure if it has a 24/25inch option to memory I will check that next time I'm on the pc, if you are on pc your self it's pretty straight forward to set up a costum resolution that will do the same thing
@rorynolan2322
@rorynolan2322 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuaharris9448 that's not what he was asking
@rorynolan2322
@rorynolan2322 Жыл бұрын
Right mate I'm looking at the monitor now and it turns out there is many different size options you can set even 17"4 :3 19"16:10 23 and 27" 16:9 but it seems that vrr or g-synk doesn't work when you enable them so bare that in mind
@World_of_OSes
@World_of_OSes Жыл бұрын
In the NVIDIA Control Panel, you can set "Perform scaling on" to "GPU" and set the scaling mode to "No scaling".
@vipromeoyt
@vipromeoyt Жыл бұрын
Last time i buy 1 month ago i see problem scan line did fix samsung or not yet i return already bcz scanline problem on 4k settings
@liav1609
@liav1609 Жыл бұрын
Thanks But i cant help to understand why get this when you can get an OLED screen for that price, even lower
@krullexneo
@krullexneo Жыл бұрын
I literally have my Neo G8 boxed up ready for Amazon to collect. The scanlines are on every Neo G8 and it's so ugly, only visible at 240hz, the monitor does not like being in a multi monitor setup in 240hz, constantly losing signal, just going black when launching a game in fullscreen etc so imo it's actually a 4k 120hz monitor, it's lovely at 4k 120hz it truly is but I couldn't overlook these issues for the price, I'll probably get the Neo G7 when it's on sale.
@BobbyDD21
@BobbyDD21 Жыл бұрын
I'm using my Neo G8 with 2 other 4k monitors. Never loses signal. Screen never goes black.
@jonathaningram8157
@jonathaningram8157 7 ай бұрын
update ?
@zeza8603
@zeza8603 11 ай бұрын
I find your reviews very exciting 3:01
@WishesXYZ
@WishesXYZ 10 ай бұрын
Which is better G8 or PG27AQDM ?
@NihonNoMajin
@NihonNoMajin Жыл бұрын
I have the G7 28" version and I really like it. Been thinking of maybe getting this 🤔. Also can anyone recommend any good samsung or Sony speakers/monitors? I see a bunch of wireless ones, but idk if they would work. It's no biggie since I mostly play with headphones, but still would be nice to have just incase someone knocks on my door lol.
@benjaminl4524
@benjaminl4524 Жыл бұрын
It fascinates me how no one is taking about the hdr feature, I literally can not enable it on my unit, when I do everything turn into super grey ish images
@str1xt
@str1xt Жыл бұрын
Windows doesn’t do HDR. I have the ASUS pg48uq and I don’t like HDR at all when gaming. SDR pops even more. Weird isn’t it?
@Freelancer604
@Freelancer604 Жыл бұрын
The placement of your monitor gives me anxiety, dont you hit your mouse on the leg of the stand all the time?
@MinimalisTech
@MinimalisTech Жыл бұрын
I did. Someone else suggesting pivot the stand itself and simply rotate the display to face you. I ended up using a big ass monitor arm though
@Velly2g
@Velly2g Жыл бұрын
This was on sale for $840 last week. I jumped on that deal to pair with my 4090
@mcod99
@mcod99 Жыл бұрын
how big of a difference are you noticing from 1440p to 4k?
@Keemochi420
@Keemochi420 Жыл бұрын
@@mcod99 HUGE like literally HUGE my friend its like going from 60hz to 144hz and you cant go back to 60hz anymore
@ChazMcClure
@ChazMcClure Жыл бұрын
I picked it up to, way too good of a deal to pass up on.
@BoxSamma
@BoxSamma Жыл бұрын
Sucks though the 4090 only supports 120hz at 4k since they use display port 1.4 ,they don’t come w the new display port 2.1, unlike the new amd radeon 7900xtx
@ryanbrowning5586
@ryanbrowning5586 Жыл бұрын
@Box doesn't it have hdmi 2.1 though...the neo? That supports up to 4k 144hz
@iqubal_singh
@iqubal_singh Жыл бұрын
How is Viewing angle on G8 compared to Dell Alienware AW3423DW
@WesXpress
@WesXpress Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the G7 over the Soney M9?
@trumpameri1638
@trumpameri1638 Жыл бұрын
G7 NEO 4k 160Hz always best solution for gaming... mini LED... Sony is normal LCD screen
@juaquiqui-kun4333
@juaquiqui-kun4333 Жыл бұрын
I got the odyssey g7, 1440p, 240hz, 32 inch, va panel and I can't find a monitor mount that will be able to carry the weight of it
@SaycoPworrell
@SaycoPworrell Жыл бұрын
Agree on the stand , too big for my L shape desk... Ordered mount
@Aceinfinity-le8zc
@Aceinfinity-le8zc 9 ай бұрын
Did you figure out the vrr on ps5?
@jonathaningram8157
@jonathaningram8157 7 ай бұрын
5:52 wait. Is this suppose to be black bar at the top and bottom ? Because it's really far from being dark.
@tazboy1934
@tazboy1934 7 ай бұрын
Sdr
@DabADuby
@DabADuby Жыл бұрын
How deep is your desk? And what is the depth of the stand with and without the monitor? Thanks!
@MinimalisTech
@MinimalisTech Жыл бұрын
Yo! My desk is 25.5” deep. The monitor was about 11 inches from the back of my desk and the stems of the monitor about a whole ass foot. Would’ve been a better experience for me if I used one of my older bigger desk sure sure
@DabADuby
@DabADuby Жыл бұрын
@@MinimalisTechthanks for the reply brotha! I ordered a 29.5” deep desk to go with it so I should be able to make it work. great video keep it up 👍
@MinimalisTech
@MinimalisTech Жыл бұрын
@@DabADuby ayyyy nice dude. Enjoy! Awesome freakin monitor
@roberthekstrom2486
@roberthekstrom2486 5 ай бұрын
Looks like it's got some backlight bleed top left, top right, bottom left and bottom right. Did you notice it?
@super.spartan
@super.spartan 18 күн бұрын
It's the camera, Mini LED and OLED monitors don't have backlight bleed.
@AnthonyFolmar
@AnthonyFolmar 25 күн бұрын
Why not the g7
@shashankrc3550
@shashankrc3550 Жыл бұрын
Can you make an overall experience video till now?
@muller42
@muller42 Жыл бұрын
you need to turn on freesync or gsync to use vrr on console
@SupplyNinja
@SupplyNinja Жыл бұрын
I bought the Neo G7 which is the same monitor but 4k at 165hz instead for $799. My 3080 Ti founders card cannot push 4k at 240 so i had no use for the extra capabilities. Can't wait to play on it.
@MrKill_SC
@MrKill_SC Жыл бұрын
Is it also mini LED?
@rorynolan2322
@rorynolan2322 Жыл бұрын
@@MrKill_SC ye apart from Hz both monitors are very similar, both have the same 1000plus dimming zones the same HDR rating which just to clarify the 2000hdr that Samsung advertises is basically a lie the real performance seems to be 1200-1400 nits peak depending on panel lottery so just be aware of that and you won't be disappointed in this monitor. I have the g7 I'll give you a mini review because this guy kinda didn't talk about some things I have an oled TV so some of my perspective comes from being acoustomed to the picture quality that one of those provides Things that impressed me The black levels are very impressive in most senerios the contrast is getting very close to oled levels. Motion clarity is also very good not oled good but unless your a professional gamer you will be more than happy This does provide a very decent HDR image Cons although I said it has a very good HDR image it's not as good as an oled even though on paper and it probably measures highlights being brighter for some reason it doesn't look that way to my eye my best guess why is because mini led is always having to choose between absolute brightness and bloom suppression were the pixel level dimming on oled and literally make any pixel as bright or as dark as it likes. Viewing angles are pretty poor, not the worst issue as your likely to be sat straight Infront of the thing but something to note The curve is on the extreme side and may or may not bother you That's about it really it's an overall very good monitor and I'll likely be very pleased with it, I will say there are some very interesting monitors just on the horizon and it may be worth waiting just a little longer
@jaxondumont3175
@jaxondumont3175 Жыл бұрын
I bought the neo g8 for 1000 refurbished
@Ab-ru1ew
@Ab-ru1ew Жыл бұрын
You said most monitors come with speakers? Brooo, what are you on?
@eldedox8843
@eldedox8843 Жыл бұрын
Wich camera you used fore filme this video? Sou nice
@MinimalisTech
@MinimalisTech Жыл бұрын
iPhone 14 pro!
@eldedox8843
@eldedox8843 Жыл бұрын
@@MinimalisTechawesome because i dont need a camera Sony profecional fore make some videos.😀
@BaezLife
@BaezLife Жыл бұрын
Can this momitor run 1440p on the ps5? I know it "can" but does it work well?
@alihamzah8532
@alihamzah8532 Жыл бұрын
QQ: when u bought it and set it up the first time do u remember what was the brightness out of box? Mine was at 13 and I could barely see anything. I had to turn it up all the way to 100. If i put brightness below 70, i cant see anything, i have to turn of all lights in the room to be able to see anything. Also when I turn on HDR screen brightness becomes dimmer than SDR mode, even though at HDR i have turned brightness to 100. Did u notice any of these in ur NEO G8 display or am I the unlucky one to get the bad bacth ? Netflix, youtube etc all the do not recognise my monitor to be HDR and never show me that option even though HDR and Stream HDR is turned on in windows.
@3choblast3r4
@3choblast3r4 9 ай бұрын
Your screen is broken mate
@SaycoPworrell
@SaycoPworrell Жыл бұрын
Got this baby on sale!
@akashkunder2626
@akashkunder2626 Жыл бұрын
Hiii i wanted to ask this doesn't have audio aux right to connect the speaker
@shaul5892
@shaul5892 Жыл бұрын
amazing!
@veyselsis1007
@veyselsis1007 Жыл бұрын
good review
@adritrace88
@adritrace88 Жыл бұрын
I just liked and subscribed so I don't feel like sneezing but not being able to
@usnightm4re
@usnightm4re Жыл бұрын
You should try the Asus PG42UQ it's mind blowing.
@nc33228
@nc33228 Жыл бұрын
Ok Alex
@joshuaharris9448
@joshuaharris9448 Жыл бұрын
Wish I could find one for sale lol
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