Samsung Watch5 Series: The Specs Are Wrong (Not Clickbait)

[@jaredfuller2348]

This is fantastic. As a fan of mechanical and automatic watches, the accurate specs are super important to sizing. Plus, the Oreo sizing is pure genius. I watch and read dozens of watch reviews, this shortcut hasn't come up. Pure Genius. Also, not surprised to hear from the guy that uses gummy bears as a unit of measurement.

[@Spekter84]

Just as Reddit loves to use a banana for scale, we need to adopt the Oreo scale for smart watches going forward.

[@AaronGoodTimes]

Ray is one step closer to full teardown mode on sports tech and cookies.

[@ted363636]

TBH I would love to see a Fenix teardown :)

[@littlered1435]

@@ted363636 training readiness is crap I’m training for a marathon and every day im on score 1 🤦‍♂️

[@janeliz5690]

@@littlered1435 makes my 7 score seem raring to go :)

[@davidweisz3338]

Any comment on the Oreo crème thickness? Is it ACTUALLY double???

[@atrdigital5935]

Double stuffed oreo, that is

[@nexslv]

Food Theory did a video on this, look it up.

[@leoni7649]

Should calculate the volume of the creme

[@brobrosu1600]

@@leoni7649 ...and Density! 😂

[@johnfricano2591]

This is not the first time Samsung has been called out for some specifics regarding their wares. Mostly due to their cell phones' processor reporting faster or higher speeds than the somewhat throttling that is actually used in day to day use. Someone of your stature needs to call them out for the misleading information! Awesome video!

[@Dcrainmaker]

Indeed!

[@Papa-Bogey]

Always enjoy jumping down rabbit holes with you ... it’s interesting that, in my experience, watch companies measure their watches accurately and as expected. Fitness and activity watch manufacturers not so much.

[@phon14593]

I never clicked so fast in my life Edit : I've been thinking about getting Galaxy watch for some time now, but when I checked out the reviews, pretty much all reviews said the HR tracking was subpar so I've decided to wait a couple of months and see how Galaxy Watch 5 turns out to be. So far, both from your early review and The Quantified Scientist's, it has seen some improvement on that part alone and I'm happy about that. However, I gotta say it's pretty disappointing to see them being lazy about the specification.

[@derx6666]

Not trying to convert you, but I went from a Galaxy Watch to a Garmin vivoactive 4, and I'm so glad I did. 7 days of battery life... If you use it for tracking your sleeping habits, the 1 to 2 days of battery life most smart/sports watches give you just isn't enough.

[@davetarrant6888]

It’s not being lazy. It’s called being dishonest.

[@fitgearhunter]

As someone who measures the exact depth I have thought this forever! Awesome review

[@segaboy9894]

The timing of this video is perfect. I am looking at pre-ordering.

[@PeterHerget]

The level of details you included in this video were... outstanding! I loved your excitement for the differences in specs and how you kept measuring, remeasuring, and then measuring again. I don't know how I am going to feel wearing an double-stuff Oreo on my wrist?

[@Dcrainmaker]

Thanks!!!

[@MasumiHerota]

Detailed. Meticulous. Objective. Honest. Unparalleled. Why you're my go-to reviewer in this space. And the first I recommend to others. Love the Oreos.

[@mikebenson7732]

This video is fantastic! A hilarious comparison to the Oreo. I envision Samsung during the design planning process for the new watch that they placed Oreos on their wrists and were like this is perfect.

[@smitshah8791]

Well, yes, technically ur thumbnail and title weren't clickbait, BUT Idk why I was expecting something like battery life 😅 I appreciate the hard work u have put, u got a new sub!

[@Dcrainmaker]

Hahaha. Thanks!

[@pavlokravchenko8554]

Exactly the question I've been looking for for several days... Great job! P.S. comparison of the battery lives while running with the same features should be as much intertaining ;)

[@cfa2510]

Very interesting. I think someone should also do a hardness test on the claimed sapphire glass to see if it is indeed made out of sapphire.

[@VirgilOvid]

The wait for 1080p is killing me but I need this roast in full HD.

[@Dcrainmaker]

Ask you KZbin shall giveth! Finally, full quality!

[@VirgilOvid]

@@Dcrainmaker Let's Go!!!!

[@nealsokay3243]

100% Ray, these companies need to be truthful.

[@TGMisKillingTheMiddleClass]

isn't this illegal? They have to at least tell us in the fine print with an asterisk. They have done the same thing with the Watch6 now. They claim it is 9mm thick. it is actually 11.2mm, which is just as thick as my 2016 Huawei Watch....

[@MobiusGT]

I agree with the manufacturers for a change about straps not counting for the weight. These things can be swapped out. Now I would also like more transparency about how its only the case being weighed

[@CoryBurke]

SO glad you put this together... Many of us were talking about this over on Reddit. One watch manufacturer you didn't mention here seems to be doing right by its purchasers and they do properly asterisk their watch measurements. Huawei lists out the mm height measurement for a watch like "12.5mm case thickness" - so in every published listing that I could do they do properly state this is just a case thickness measurement. Samsung needs to get on this and either properly state or change your numbers! Cheers

[@DeMolition2208]

The number they're giving is what most people would want lol. This video is interesting but still useless. I want the mm it's going to stick out on my wrist. Not the mm it's gonna take up on a flat surface xD.

[@LGTVQHD]

@@DeMolition2208 i don't know about you but my wrist doesn't Suck an extra 5mm. It'll definitely create a bump, hence it should be mentioned. It's not a 10% error IT'S 50.

[@timmyb1957]

Maybe, I should have just gone with the standard Oreo instead of the 44mm, LTE version of the Watch5. I'm thinking GPS accuracy would be about the same. Wow, is it ever bad. My running maps look like a drunken kitten trying to make his way home. Thanks for another great video, Ray.

[@demonslayer4951]

This is very helpful not only u compared the size to a familiar object/oreo, u also showed us the difference in woman's tiny wrist to a man's wrist. Your both wrists measurements help me to which size I will buy. TY!

[@seanlawrence972]

This is exactly the video/comparison I was looking for, Perfect!

[@Sparklesniff]

doing some LTT / Tech Jesus investigation. Love to see it. All it takes is for one company to start skirting the measurement and they all will follow suit. I'm not sure when it started, but thinness has been a major selling point for anything with a screen basically. Sometimes to the point of absurdity with some newer televisions and laptops.

[@JLP4444]

P.s., reminiscent of total vertical of an alpine ski resort, which is, by convention, measured from the bottom of the well dug at the base to the top of the antenna at the summit.

[@verbalhustle]

I thought this video was dumb at first. I thought "he could have made this into a short and it would have been fine." Then you showed that the sensor bump was the reason the measurements were off. I would have NEVER considered that. Impressive. Liked and subscribed.

[@Dcrainmaker]

Thanks! I had planned to make this short. Literally, I thought I could do it in 2-3 mins tops, and then the more I dug, the more things unravelled.

[@verbalhustle]

@@Dcrainmaker this is my first Tim's seeing your videos. Well done.

[@IlluviumGaming]

While I agree with most aspects of this video, I think it would be weird for Samsung to include the weight including the strap since you always choose which strap you get and the watch itself doesn't actually come with a strap, they open the box for the watch and put the strap in it. If there was a standard strap that came with it every time I would understand including it in the weight, but it would only get more confusing if you included it since each type of strap likely has a unique weight. Other than the weight part, I agree with everything.

[@audreyryals1710]

This is the first video that I've been able to see what the different sizes look like on a womans arm. Great video! Unexpected, thorough, entertaining, and turned out to be very helpful.

[@Dcrainmaker]

Thanks - glad it was helpful!

[@njrom]

This always bothered me with the apple watch. Happy to see someone call this out.

[@CthRage8946]

Here to say! Having purchased the GW4 right after the GW5 series launched, there is no difference between the display sizes of the GW5 pro and GW4. With the GW5 pro, the display size is substantially the same as that of the GW5 44mm. Everything about the watches' display was precisely the same size. It has been observed that many people purchase the GW5 Pro due to its larger display size without realizing that it may not meet their needs. The size of the GW5 44mm and GW5 pro is the same. Ultimately, the decision is yours to invest in a superior battery or compromise with the GW5 if budget is an issue. The dilemma here is about the budget.

[@vpst00]

I couldn't stop laughing at the oreo sizing method to see how it would look on your wrist.

[@ejm6122]

Great episode, I actually have been looking at the Samsung smart watch in comparison to the Withings scan watch. How would you compare these 2.

[@michaelpolakowski7301]

Coming soon: "thickness refers to the distance from the watch face to this arbitrary mark we put somewhere between 40 and 90% down the side of the watch." Good video; now you'll have to publish the actual physical specs of all devices reviewed, since most companies can't be trusted to do so accurately.

[@doop2541]

Super helpful--especially the shot of the watches on your wife's wrist. I have the Galaxy 4 Classic, and it never sits fully on my wrist because of the design of how the bands attach--so that for any activity beyond a mild walk, HR tracking is a mess. Not going to buy the 5, when it has the same problem for people with small wrists--not spending that money and having to cut up watch bands...again...

[@r1skbreak3r61]

Just buy a normal 20mm watch band (Galaxy watch Active bands work great) that is straight at the end. It will sit fine on your wrist with that instead of the stock strap.

[@Veon1]

like @@r1skbreak3r61 said, the Galaxy watches are compatible with any 20mm band. I also have the 4 Classic (46mm version), I grabbed a set of 3 bands from Amazon for like 15€ and they fit way better than the stock one, and tracking works pretty well if I tighten it enough.

[@sylvainmichaud2262]

From now on, if asked about my weight or waist measurements, I will give the ones without my belly sensor.

[@Dcrainmaker]

😂 Perhaps best comment thus far!

[@FlyGuy2000]

Never in my wildest dreams did I foresee a day in which I would watch a man measure the thickness of an Oreo cookie with a digital caliper. You, Sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

[@knightofnever]

Really love your vids. 🤟🏽 Your channel is underrated.

[@TheImprobableIronman]

Honestly fella - I love your attention to detail and love that you are telling it like it is with these watches. You are my single point of reference for all sports tech. I would be careful with the Oreo thing though - my channel was called ' The Fit Triathlete'......until I started measuring in Oreo units.....😂

[@Dcrainmaker]

Hahahha, thanks!

[@MateHegyhati]

I have to disagree with your point at 1:09. I think Oreo would love to sponsor this. 😀

[@Dcrainmaker]

Oreo: Call me.

[@mandatory360]

Featuring packaged snacks for the purpose of scale comparison is a great way to attract new sponsors. Just sayin'.

[@KD-zi2fi]

I find it acceptable to leave out the weight of the straps because of the modular nature of straps today. You can have plastic straps, metal straps, etc... I do find it sneaky to leave our the sensor bump however...

[@TGMisKillingTheMiddleClass]

sneaky? it's a straight up lie They did the same thing with the new ones.... I wanted something as thin, or thinner than my old Huawei and I was tricked by the specs of the Watch 6 until I came to this video

[@ArashFallah]

I once told you that you're almost getting to the @ProjectFarm level in terms of testing. It seems that you've got to do that for every claim from now on. Depth is listed at 10.5 mm, "We're gonna test that!". Battery life is listed at 30 hours, "We're gonna test that!" :D

[@osvaldotrevino1991]

Great info you deserve a thumbs up 👍. Now can you do specs on fully charged batteries vs discharged?

[@andrewandy9425]

I have a galaxy watch 4, 44mm I love it and have had no issues. I pre-ordered the five in hopes of the better battery life. I've had a fitbit versa 3 and apple watch as well. The 5 does look massive though lol

[@justinlangley9522]

it is massive! tried one on in the store not yet available but have them out for show to the public... it made my 6.5 inch wrist look quite small not to mention it is incredibly thick. made the galaxy watch 4 46 classic look decently sized... all in all VERY disappointed

[@AB-fh9zh]

What an overly geeky and complex way of coming up with an excuse to buy Oreos. I salute you!

[@RADERTECH]

The Oreo comparison was pure genius! But sadly, you have me real bummed out knowing I'll be wearing a double stuffed Oreo on my wrist when it shows up next week. Not too thrilled about that.

[@pulkitpun1009]

How do you feel about the oreo? I like it. Doesn't look too big on my wrist and the mind kind of ignores a few mm of black plastic back and just concentrates on the grey titanium part.

[@RADERTECH]

@@pulkitpun1009 I got used to it within a few hours, no big deal at all. I'm so happy with the battery life, that Instantly didn't care about the size, it's totally worth it IMHO.

[@pulkitpun1009]

@@RADERTECH how many days do you get out of it?

[@RADERTECH]

@@pulkitpun1009 4 days

[@dan1one]

Jeez. I can’t believe how quick we jumped at this video.

[@kissinuk]

Thanks for this video, I was wondering how accurate those thicknesses were! I don't suppose you have a Gear S3 Frontier to measure so I can compare against the new versions?

[@ian-mucarruthers441]

A very entertaining and I think self controlled rant. Ray seemed to be just holding it together..

[@meowlancer7279]

Still rocking Active 2 despite the back cover is fell off because excesive heat of the charging process, I'm not the only one but major problem for Active 2 user, now not waterproof anymore

[@jasont9169]

How does the real thickness of the regular watch 5 compare with 4?

[@Ariozo111]

Ofc. it´s not good they do like that for the folks that check size/weight. I have never on any brand check size/weight tho, just check design/use and buy it. :)

[@liondepierre]

Awesome and thorough review, as always.

[@Dcrainmaker]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ZaneDragonBorn]

The Oreo thing Killed me lol. They totally should use that in branding lol

[@tatnaiburnett]

Highly disappointed that you didn't measure the Oreo thickness without the stuffing to see if it is the same width as the claimed Samsung width measurement. This is not the level of sloppiness that I expect from @dcrainmaker. Shame. /s

[@brianchizaza1989]

Lol

[@BygSii]

Heck yeah, science! I love mm and grams and getting into the specs of all the gadgets. I got the super sports band, the one with all the holes, to shave off a few grams of weight when wearing my galaxy watch 5. It makes all the difference in feeling like your not wearing anything vs being comfortable to wear.

[@1deriko]

Great video, I personally pre-ordered the regular 44mm Watch 5 because it is smaller in size which would be less weight and bulk on my arm. It is more versatile for everyday use and even going to the gym. I would be missing out on the extra battery and better build, but the bulk and price swayed me.

[@jgreen2217]

I did the exact same thing as you. Sacrificing the battery life for a better price and a looking watch.

[@marufio]

I was thinking the same but decided to stick with 4 since I have other watches it can stay home and charge.

[@jonr6680]

Waited 9:57 and the Oreos are still sitting there! You didn't eat the Oreos! Now I'm going to have to do it for you!

[@scavanger1000]

As a Fitbit fanboy, battery is leagues above every other smartwatch I've used, but their step counter is terrible, I'm stood still on my forklift yet it's constantly counting steps while I drive

[@armandochevez1038]

This was so awesome, thanks for doing this deep dive!

[@jl9365]

i clicked this video because i was interested in purchasing a smartwatch, thanks to this video i have decided to just strap an oreo on my wrist.

[@willbert7715]

The ad before this video was a samsung ad for the Samsung Watch5... okaaay.... algorythm goes weird

[@Dcrainmaker]

🤣

[@nemosandman]

Very clever !! Kuddos on the Oreo comparaison.

[@DutchinBrazil]

Wow companies are not honest about their products and services! Mind-blowing:)

[@VaibhavShukla76]

oh .. this is absolutely wrong .. thank god i know this now .. cool informative video !

[@Mike_The_Hog_A_Nator]

Great catch. I know mine is old but I just love my $100 like brand new Amazon Refurbished Gear S3 Frontier watch. I can get 2.5 days easily out of it but I put it on charge every night. I wade fish in Saltwater here on the Texas Coast & I've had no issues. It's been dunked in Saltwater & Sand from the beach. Still looking & performs like new. I just need something to see what time it is & maybe do my heart rate every now & then. S3 does the job.

[@ambarbs]

Garmin guy review's Samsung watch! Amen!

[@zckom]

I think it is just like phone, the thickness on the paper is the thinnest that they can measure. The heart rate sensor is elevated for better skin contact just like many of the sport watches (although I don't have high hope on the accuracy for Samsung watch).

[@LiveLifeWithLove]

Sam is also asking for separate cost for the band, no matter what, is that usual. I mean with band Active is well above $300!

[@Dcrainmaker]

The band is included, fwiw.

[@LiveLifeWithLove]

@@Dcrainmaker thanks

[@johnnyvvlog]

It's not lying. It's normal for watches to be measured without the back plate and to measure their weight without the band. Even in conventional watches it's the norm.

[@johnmanley4528]

I don't expect alot from Samsung or Apple on this front. But, both Garmin and Polar have to do alot better on this issue. The depth of the device has alot to do with its comfort as something to wear every day.

[@Dadniel1st]

Good work. Thanks

[@killerii5746]

This is because your measurements include the sensor housing on the rear where the watch manufacturers are only measuring the body/ shell of the watch. It's not a Samsung specific method either. The weight without the straps is correct as the watches have replaceable straps. Each strap weighs different so this info on the Samsung is correct. You need to remember that the sensor is designed to protrude from the body to be pushed into the skin. The body should be pushed flat against the skin leaving the correct measurement exposed.

[@000T00b]

Hey, you’re getting more for less !! 👍🙈😅. And now that you’ve highlighted the Oreo sizing, that’s something I won’t be able to unsee.

[@frimangil]

Can I ask please about the magnetic strap lock - is it steong enough for extreme sports? If I'm planning to go kitesurfing with this watch should I buy an alternative strap?

[@r0bv123]

So when you buy a Samsung watch, you're buying it to wear an Oreo cookie! 😉

[@justinlangley9522]

the battery will probably only last as long as the Oreo on your wrist also. not long at all!

[@m.gwincinski6949]

You have just entered the parallel world of Samsung's weights and measures. Battery life of the watch will be a real head scratcher.

[@fgiraffe8751]

Chekov's Oreos: we were all just waiting for the Oreos.

[@phillipk9351]

I don't think the Pro5 is just the sidewall. The bezel is elevated. My bet. The glass level and the bottom minus the sensor is the measurement. Similarly to the others

[@Betancourtdm]

I'm expecting a real world test of the Double Stuf oreo in your next video. Specifically I want to see water resistance, gps accuracy and taste level.

[@jdagreek]

Thanks so much because I love accuracy. This goes to show you ... Consumers are smarter than these companies. I would also like you to look at batteries for samsung. How long to charge, what happens if you use a larger charging brick than recommended, why does it let you use a larger charging brick? (i.e. 1A vs

[@LordTodd]

Amazing! Thanks for this video, really helped me!

[@bremnet1812]

With all the bins you have from purchasing all that tech goodness, you should have an online garage sale 😁

[@mike_f]

Mondelez International is now wondering if they should introduce a series of faces for Sammy watches...

[@danielbarakat]

Ok. The Oreo in the thumbnail makes sense now

[@Dcrainmaker]

I've always got a reason...

[@brothatwasepic]

Hey guys didn't the galaxy watch 4 have blood pressure measuring? Does any watch have this feature?

[@A.B_X]

DC Rainmaker Did you measure the Watch 4 Classic by any chance? It's really interesting if Samsung did the same thing with it.

[@FollowThatDale]

I'm definitely craving Oreos now.

[@james_the_darklord]

Specs like size and weight doesn't concern me at all. As long as the device works as intended I'm content with that

[@davetarrant6888]

Yes but that’s not the point. The point is dishonest specs should not be acceptable.

[@james_the_darklord]

@@davetarrant6888 I don't care and I don't buy a device just for the specs alone the size and dimensions. The specs I'm most concerned about is what's inside and what it can do.

[@davetarrant6888]

@@james_the_darklord What you are saying is completely irrelevant to the point of the post. So you think it is acceptable to lie about the specs as long as they do not pertain to what you are interested in?

[@davetarrant6888]

@@james_the_darklord Furthermore based on what you are saying then I guess you would not mind if they completely lied about all the specs inside the watch as well 🤔🙄

[@james_the_darklord]

@@davetarrant6888 you don't get it... As long as the processor, memory and features are what's advertised then I'm good with it. Again I don't care about the size and weight etc. It's what inside that counts for me.

[@davidleija4613]

This is journalism

[@alfrede.newman1838]

Hey, lets not confuse reality with marketing! Seriously, awesome catch ... you need to wonder why this has gone on for so long year after year.

[@Betancourtdm]

Makes sense since the sensor bump usually pushes into the skin

[@MyIronman8]

Very nice give this guy an pay raise

[@_samurai_744]

What i don’t understand is why Garmin and many of the others make a bump on the hr sensor ? For example, the new Polar models (Pacer) don’t have a bump, the hr sensor is in the same level with the back of the watch. I don’t see any reason that making a bump will increase the accuracy, except that leaving a track on the wrist.

[@Dcrainmaker]

To be fair, the accuracy of the ones without the bump in my testing is less. Fitbit, latest Polar, and Wahoo all are less accurate in sports.

[@mlegrand]

I'm only here for Oreo measurement content. Sadly, there was a lot of watches being measured. #falseAdvertising But I've always assumed that some of this mislabeling was due to the companies not including the optical heart rate bump but yeah they should documented for sure. Also, depth is super important. I think depth is the majority of why a watch feels bulky on the wrist.

[@Dcrainmaker]

😂

[@edgardwill4932]

Anyone knows if they fixed the overheating problem on LTE version just like the 4 version? The problem is that, LTE version supports the max of about 10 minutes of calls and reset because of the overheating problem! Can anyone answer that?

[@YiRenSu]

Appreciate your measurement!

[@robb1267]

Instructions unclear. Ate my watch. Looking at this Oreo on my wrist waiting for it to tell time.

[@gldavis72]

I don't know if you've done a video before comparing actual screen size but is the 44mm or 45mm the actual screen size or the overall width of the screen and the casing. I would like to see a comparison of the screens if you haven't done it before

[@meyocr]

Ray's rabbit home of the week

[@M1402_]

This was not what I expected when accepting use of cookies.

[@johngorentz6409]

How does the weight of the oreos compare to the weight of the watches? Also the GPS capabilities?