My NPD ex gf was bisexual and dated a lot of girls. Narcs want as much narcissistic supply as possible so they will sleep with both genders as long as it’s a breathing human that is capable of giving them compliments, praise and sex. My ex was covert and very very sadistic when it came to cheating on me she went out of her way to sleep with my friends, my brother or people she maybe I didn’t like just humiliate, embarrass and mock me, all behind my back too while she tried to act like a sweet innocent little angel when we’re together. Except if she got drunk she would completely pull a Jeckyl Hyde and go from this quiet submissive doormat type of gf to a loud, crazy, fn evil person or bet yet monster. Vaknin said when the covert narcissist drinks alcohol it turns them in a psychopath, which I can vouch 100% happens lol.
@benv81854 ай бұрын
Mine got bored with just normal cheating and then devised a system such that I would know EXACTLY WHEN she was cheating omfg 😂
@claudiaborralho88874 ай бұрын
I strongly believe many bisexuals are narcisistas. Tye more supply the better and they can easily triangulate.
@sneak94074 ай бұрын
@@benv8185 I'm sorry, but I laughed like a maniac. She had to one up other narcissists... she's a narcissists prime.
@user-oi3lt7nu8g3 ай бұрын
@@benv8185 So she wanted to torture you. Incredible. How did you react?
@FoolintheRainSDMF2 ай бұрын
Mine was the same hence why I got rid of her they can have her she won't be theirs either just their turn and believe me it's not hard to get a turn with her
@JJ-gi7jv4 ай бұрын
Your explanation of the othering problem in narcissists was genius! Discarding the true self (wow!). I feel like finally better understanding narcissistic behavior and why other people are more emphatic. The emphatic person has not discarded the fragile self, they grew it. Thats why they can relate better to others Thank you so much! fantastic perspective
@blackreazor4 ай бұрын
Im gay but ive dealth with closeted narcissists. they do have double lives and the ones ive dealth with hated the fact that i was out and ok with my sexuality but they would make weird remarks they would say that i looked "normal" or that they liked that i wasn't "feminine" but they would secretly mess around with transexual women or cross dress themselves. It was a weird power dinamic in some cases. I now try to go out with open and out men.
@TheOmnitom4 ай бұрын
They have shame problems from being mistreated as kids, I've experienced it too it's weird I only date other men who are confident and out myself too now.
@LauraRONeill4 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation-thank you for this video.
@mustaphamond37294 ай бұрын
Thank you for once again expanding my understanding of internalized objects! And for the insight that othering failure not necessarily is pathological, merely human. Your work is much appreciated.
@YewDuct4 ай бұрын
Priceless. I just arrived here after a video on picking locks because I've mislaid my key. Othering failure is like the pin that prevents the barrel from being turned being jammed in the open position, so the barrel can always be turned. It doesn't mean that you have the pin combination to open the lock, it's just a necessary precursor.
@BarbicideSmoothie4 ай бұрын
Thank you, I can see how this parasitic, perverse beyond the emeshment my mom has, could be a form of othering. I appreciate your help so much infusing us with your knowledge🔥
@monikaknapczyk71514 ай бұрын
If I feel the other person as "a part of my soul", is it an othering failure? It was heterosexual relation of course.
@samvaknin4 ай бұрын
Yes. Enmeshment, merger, fusion are othering failures.
@monikaknapczyk71514 ай бұрын
@@samvaknin Thanks for your reply Prof. Vaknin.
@art_illeries82744 ай бұрын
Mine was proud of people mistaking him for a homosexual because of his habitus and expensive taste. But he said he didn't like other men. It was all just very confusing tbh.
@changingmymind4 ай бұрын
with a highly sensitive young child, can a mother’s constant and reliable soothing response delay or block development of othering?
@samvaknin4 ай бұрын
No. Watch the From Child to Narcissist playlist.
@SherrilPerhach4 ай бұрын
Porn and homosexual relations were a big part of my ex narc life.
@Khaegch-favh4 ай бұрын
Same
@mec.laurapalmer71554 ай бұрын
Did he act like he is hetero with you?
@evab5214 ай бұрын
Dr Vaknin, what about bisexual people? What happens to the othering of bi's?
@samvaknin4 ай бұрын
Depends on whether they are mentally healthy and what is their attachment style.
@xochitl74894 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@__S__4354 ай бұрын
Dr. Vaknin, thank you for this. You've talked about how decompensation works in malignant narcissists, along with the other Cluster B states they move through adjacent to that. Do you have any videos, or plan to make any, which contrast this with how decompensation works in non-cluster-B people, and especially how they can use decompensation to slingshot to some better state of psychological wellbeing?
@samvaknin4 ай бұрын
m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3yxkISqg7WaoMk
@Darkguardian8234 ай бұрын
Nope, but many are. We are the strange gays who look nothing like eachother. White burly bear, and honestly I’m the more fem one, and husband is extremely native and looks fresh off the reservation. Many gays I know, there are some similarities with who they choose to date
@beverleecarrell5104 ай бұрын
Sam..You are brave..You do not stop at what may disturb weak people...❤
@kolmol90974 ай бұрын
U are thr only weak who wanna revenge
@loucorice4 ай бұрын
15:00 I feel like this would be an argument for a core narcissistic personality. Only solidifying the current ICD's take on cluster B as a whole. There isn't such thing as a "npd/bpd/histrionic personality disorder" only a personality lacking, manifesting as a disorder wearing the mask of a certain personality style
@loucorice4 ай бұрын
But I also think that certain predispositions mixed with critical experiences tend to shape your personality style. It's not that easy to "choose" a way of symptoms visible
@samvaknin4 ай бұрын
You may wish to watch the videos in this channel. Search for the relevant playlists.
@erikal15934 ай бұрын
Man... Narcissists are next level. They are smart and conniving. I've worked with homosexuals, bisexuals, and trans at Disneyland. They are their own people. Some suck. Some are amazing. I've luckily been with mostly amazing but some a**holes too.
@melindamassey144 ай бұрын
Child groomers?
@DanielGomez-e6l3 ай бұрын
Can you develop othering failure after trauma, npd or relationship experiences as an adult?
@samvaknin3 ай бұрын
Yes, but only temporarily.
@jonathankelly26554 ай бұрын
Yes.
@Zhanna114 ай бұрын
Psychology should be taught in schools 🤷♀️👍😄
@Oh_So_Based4 ай бұрын
^Cope
@tyron28544 ай бұрын
No
@soldatka4 ай бұрын
Thank You for this. As bi woman I felt ashamed for my sexuality for so much time. Still I don't have the courage to be open about it.