THE GORILLA COMPANION (Doctor Who's Broke Canon)

[@timrob12]

I believe that the Eighth Doctor was the kind one who just said yes every time someone asked if they could join the TARDIS.

[@charlestownsend9280]

He even grow to like the one companion he didn't want in the tardis, to the point where their death almost drove him to breaking point (not to mention that he tried to save the other companion in that story who had previously turned against him). So yeah the 8th doctor was definitely happy to have anyone travel with him. He's like the series 4 10th, series 10 12th, the 4th and 13th doctor, just wanting a friend to have adventures with and show the universe.

[@custardtimelord5502]

@@charlestownsend9280 which companion is that? 😄

[@charlestownsend9280]

@@custardtimelord5502 lucie Miller, she was forced onto the tardis by the timelords for the doctor to protect (cause she's under timelord witness protection but they wiped her memory of why she needs protection) and they made it so that the tardis couldn't dematerialise without her onboard so that the doctor couldn't just leave her and put a barrier up around her time so he couldn't take her back home. Once the doctor solves the mystery of what the timelords were hiding (turns out that the timelords didn't even send the doctor the correct person, cause timelords are really incompetent), in a story where cybermen vs an office building that's actually a giant war machine, he offers her to stay and keep travelling with him (for another 3 seasons of stories). Their first meeting is my favourite doctor companion meeting ever and their first story is great (daleks vs human daleks on a dying world descending into anarchy and a crazy conspiracy theorist who is the smartest person of them all, while the doctor and lucie don't trust each other), their last story is one of my favourite ever stories (and probably why I never brought 10 and 12s I'm going to break the laws of time arcs, cause when the 8th doctor reaches that point it's acted so much better, just with Paul mcgann's voice you feel every emotion, and it's deserved, the guy literally just got both his heart broken, he's partly responsible for the entire series of events and is then on the verge of killing the monk who even as the world is burning due to his actions is trying to make up pathetic excuses). Their first story is blood of the daleks and it's every 8th doctor story up till to the death (and they realised a boxset of a few extra stories and also an earthly child gives required background information and characters and fits into season 4 after the chirstmas story death in Blackpool, which if you don't like new who chirstmas specials cause they're way to happy and joyful listen to that and before situation vacant, which is a surprisingly good story which is the doctor does the apprentice to find a new companion, it sounds like an awful concept but is actually done really well).

[@timrob12]

@@charlestownsend9280 Indeed.

[@jacobcurle8964]

@@charlestownsend9280 Eight loved all of his companions eventually. Except C’rizz, of course, whose death was practically a relief

[@chibacityblues2003]

I swear, 8 lived like 35 times longer than any other doctor. Heaven Sent would have been like a day trip for 8

[@nightowl8477]

11:34 well yeah. He saw 12's 9/11 file when he was wearing the sonic specs.

[@nightowl8477]

_"What's gay bowser?"_

[@wren7980]

I've always loved how continuing EU content with Eight unintentionally recontextualizes that regeneration scene. No mention of Liv and Helen (at one point supposedly his closest friends) but Tamsin of all people gets a shout-out??

[@pp-wl1tf]

There’s a common interpretation that they’re the companions the 8th Doctor cannot forgive himself for. The Day of the Doctor novel has him include Fitz, which trust me makes a lot sense under this context.

[@wren7980]

@@pp-wl1tf Hope it's that and not amnesia again

[@plantainsame2049]

​@@wren7980He did have a spaceship for all on him. So it might be a punctured lung And can't ramble on for too long At the first time he Is suffered a major injury apparently

[@HillarySJohknaym]

Mr Pain, the companion was in a single story, "The Satanic Mill". He was not built to be a companion to the Eighth Doctor, he was a disposable 1 day clone slave who bumped into him and died saving Liv and Helen.

[@themetaphysicalgentleman]

I'm pretty sure the implication is that Sheena just doesn't exist anymore, which is a suitably horrific end for an Eighth Doctor companion.

[@LukeIdontKnow]

Beep the meep

[@skorie6180]

I have a soft spot for Josie Day, Matter Of Life And Death was my first DW graphic novel and got me into 8's audios, it's a shame there isn't more of her

[@justsome500yearoldwithsmug2]

Dude yes! I wonder if by some miracle big finish could consider doing more comic related adaptations... Even if they are kinda unnecessary I get the feeling we won't be seeing Josie for a long time

[@jaschul]

I think the "Moffat rule" was (a) only the Big Finish 8th Doctor companions are part of New Who continuity, and (b) the 8th Doctor only mentioned the companions who died. Except for Charley. But he thinks she's dead.

[@vcom741]

He doesn't, it's the opposite. He thinks Charley left him at the start of Girl Who Never Was, and Charley believes that the blast that wiped his memory killed him. Charlotte Pollard Vol 3 is meant to be the end of her storyline as she meets 8 again, and they can't find the time to do the boxset, weirdly enough.

[@jaschul]

@@vcom741 I should listen to The Girl Who Never Was again, I guess. If there's one companion from the audio dramas that I wish would show up in the show, it's Charley.

[@TheYoungDoctor]

Fitz Kreiner was added to the Day of the Doctor novelisation.

[@custardtimelord5502]

I wouldn't mind seeing Samson and Gemma explored more. I know I'm probably the only one but even just a big finish boxset with their travels before Storm Warning would be fun I guess, as a stand alone thing

[@pious83]

The variety of companions 8th Doctor travelled with, really highlights how unoriginal Nu-Who has been with their choices onscreen.

[@theneonchimpchannel9095]

Now I want them to do an animated series based on the 8th Doctor and Guy The Gorilla's adventures.

[@vcom741]

17:42 Only heard her "Company of Friends" story...and she is a comicsgater, no thanks XD Gorilla from "Mummy Speaks!" though? Really really fun. They were the MVP of the story.

[@SamyulDavis]

Hahaha she's a true 80's-90's brand of geek in every way

[@android65mar]

Ah yes- Guy the gorrila was in the Charlie Pollard further Adventuress stories. I didn't think he had a Pteradactyl- sure it was a vortisaur.

[@jaschul]

It was!

[@group2gaming]

I believe the "flicker-image of an evil baby" is referring to the 90s gif of the dancing baby, commonly referred to as the first meme.

[@CaJoel]

haven't watched this yet but if it isn't about Guy the gorilla from big finish then I want my money back

[@eelsemaj99]

sadly you don’t have your money back

[@CaJoel]

I literally listened to the story with him in it last week and I’m glad we’re getting some Guy appreciation. Also he likes K-pop

[@xandertoner]

my canon has been well and truly broke, excellent work sam!

[@jbcatz5]

Emma/Sheena/Louise got written out at least of the Doctor’s life. It was quite an effective way of showing the consequences of the Time War, the Doctor himself not realising the history of himself and his companion changing without them realising it.

[@JeroshCreations]

I absolutely loved that meme segment. The beginning especially. The First Doctor laughing maniacally in a back-room of a post-office? Absolute gold. I wouldn’t mind more content where you just retell some of the short stories in your earnestly enthusiastic yet sarcastic way, just sayin.

[@Elementa2006]

As for the idea of "Gods" in Doctor, I'm quite intrigued in the Grace, created by Big Finish who were Great Old Ones that existed before the universe was created and in a state of non-existence outside of time and space and who also created the Key to Time and both the White and Black Guardians. They also hold the universe together, occasionally stepping into reality to prevent it from falling apart. Basically, the closest thing to the "God" of the Doctor Who universe. Surprisingly, Doctor Who stories do not go the whole "evil gods" route with the Grace as The Fifth Doctor once referred the Grace as being "big, peaceful, pan-dimensional creatures with enormous power", though he also suspected they could crush him with a thought if they wanted.

[@goldendruid76]

The spin-off audio range Graceless (about the two girls from the Key 2 Time trilogy in the Main Range) explores the Grace even further, but still leaves them as very mysterious and all-powerful.

[@pp-wl1tf]

The whole War Child Master is even wilder if you take the authorial intent that he's the successor to the Jacobi Master who gets himself erased from the timeline.

[@charlestownsend9280]

What about the companion the 8th doctor had in legacy of time? Or was that the companion built by the eleven? Or does the 8th doctor have two companions who were built? I love that story, where the 8th doctor just wants to have some adventures with a robot who thinks she's a real girl and his wife from the future messes it all up and then he almost goes mad with power as he uses what he thinks are the ruins of galifrey to attack some scavengers.

[@DayOldMeat]

I think she was one of the Sirens?

[@alternatethirteenth5594]

I'm proud I knew so many of those companions... As soon as I saw the title my heat was warmed as Guy would get recognition

[@millievariants]

Fun fact: The Daleks don’t know who the War Doctor is.

[@TheCtp96]

Weird coincidence I went to the Steve Dillon exhibition this week were they had a bunch of his comic book art and one of the pictures was of abslom daak and I'm pretty sure it was the original black and white picture of him that is used in thumbnail for this video.

[@umimo]

The Doctor travelling with a regular gorilla is some real monkey business

[@rennythespaceguy7285]

So glad Bob the nasty Dalek got a mention here

[@jbcatz5]

The one heart thing came after the century long exile on Earth. The exile was him being amnesiac because of the end of The Ancestor Cell (revealed in The Gallifrey Chronicles that he had to erase those memories to store the whole of the Gallifreyan Matrix before the planet was written out of time). Yes, the novels did a Gallifrey goes away storyline before the TV series did. He lost his heart in The Adventuress of Henrietta Street, set after he was back in time and space.

[@SamyulDavis]

Can't wait to get round to them. Familiar with the events but I'm getting to them very out of order.

[@DotDotDott]

The 8th doctor was definitely the longest lasting doctor. 8 restarted counting his age in the EDA audios and the war doctor said he was like 300 years younger then 11 in day of the doctor so from the EDAs to the 9th doctor thats about 900 years and we don't even know how old he was before he restarted.

[@peterstangl8295]

Every time i think i've seen it all, there's a gorilla companion.

[@darkaphelion9870]

I was also an 8th doctor companion

[@NutBreadMSMC]

maybe the real 8th Doctor companions were the friends we made along the way

[@TheProfessor230]

There are more companions who are original to the expanded universe than companions original to the tv show

[@fisal8942]

9:41 I think the author meant the original meaning of the memes

[@Tahoof]

You forgot Josie Day from the titan comic range.

[@SamyulDavis]

She got her own fact last series :)

[@greghawkins59]

Sorry, a 10 tonne gorilla? And you said it was an ordinary gorilla

[@that-D.T.S.-bloke-NoMore]

Is the 8th Doctor the oldest incarnation because of his many companions

[@gruffyddwilliams7633]

I'm always glad when the Magazine comics get aknowledged, Izzy was a great character

[@stanley5745]

5:03 If I had a nickel for every time one of the Eleventh Doctor's companions was painted blue...

[@McDonald_Mando]

Is there enough content to do an episode on which languages the tardis translates and all that. Because if the doctor can speak gorilla, that says it’s a learnable language that the tardis should translate

[@millievariants]

Imagine 8s Demons run with Kroton and Guy the Gorilla.

[@HillarySJohknaym]

Ramsey the Vortesaur was not a pterodactyl.

[@Chubby_Bub]

The Eleventh Doctor Year Two has a lot going on but it’s a great story. I never realized the Volatix Cabal was a way of getting around the Dalek design though… Also, I can totally believe that Susan is into memes. And that she confuses the Doctor by quoting them.

[@loganshirley9058]

Guy is a French gorilla, which means the characters pronounce his name "Ghee"

[@muffled6325]

I have an odd feeling of déjà vu

[@KingAxxerr]

Carrot juice carrot juice carrot juice

[@neilshenton1834]

Major thanks, props and kudos for the Dillon memorium.

[@HillarySJohknaym]

The Eighth Doctor met a man made of memes in Dark Eyes

[@franzliebkin]

I think Beep the Meep is blue.

[@horrorstew3577]

Daak actually dies in a non Cannon animated movie called Dalek Tales (available here on KZbin) check it out ppl

[@erikaatayde8919]

Looove your videos Davis. Ssard, Kroton and many other of the eighth doctor are my favourite companions, i'm always glad to see more videos about his tenure

[@blackphoenix77]

I have the second series of Doctor Who: the Eleventh Doctor comics laying around somewhere; I need to dig them out. Also, the Eighth Doctor is probably the longest lived Doctor (if you ignore that Timeless Child retcon like I choose to do), so it stands to reason that he's had a ton (tonne?) of companions.

[@menwithven2862]

Wasn’t Expecting to hear Susan Foreman introduced as a ‘dank daddy memer’ but fuck am I glad you did.

[@toughteddybear5777]

These vids are consistently amazing

[@Dreams_So_Daring]

What no Love for Sergeant Andy !

[@xavierwalko4175]

Beep the Meep is show canon now, but I still love the meme panel

[@daltonlang3745]

Really give yourself a challenge and do a video on the War in Heaven and Faction Paradox if you haven’t already, that’s stuff will make your head hurt .

[@epicenigma2011]

I just read The Then and The Now, found a couple of volumes at a comic store super cheap

[@d.sfilms7677]

It's back!!!!

[@wingshad0w00982]

I can’t tell who the better companion was. Absolom, or Guy.

[@daiyahigashikata]

wait, was i just not listening or was sam jones not mentioned in the 8 companions list

[@linguinisescapology7567]

memes. the DNA of the soul.

[@KingAxxerr]

Dang, you really deleted the secret broke canon club, rip 🙏

[@CYBERDOODY]

Another excellent video! Though you probably should put a seizure warning for 10:34

[@wrightsalternativeuniverse2798]

Could you please do a review of Doctor Who: Redacted?

[@foxperson8943]

No josephine day? I expected better from you

[@SamyulDavis]

I covered her & Ria before!

[@thedoctorsassistant1]

i love your videos 😀😀🤑🤗

[@ishaandw]

I don't think you pronounced Guy correctly

[@Henry-oj1oo]

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