San Marino Imola 1994 Ayrton Senna vs Damon Hill onboard video

[@shotokanskif]

No camera interference and steering flexing in hill's car. you can clearly see the yellow button in the same angle.

[@cr4yf1sh68]

Senna's steering column broke off in his hands, this is the official cause of the accident as dictated by Italian law. His death was therefore a preventable tragedy and any thoughts beyond that are disrespectful to Senna, the greatest driver in history.

[@GHOSTKILLERAAA]

It's not... No official cause at all... 4 Courts, 1 guilty (mechanic) for "bad working condition without reporting the changes to the master projectist". Just that! If you want to be thrustable at least read the court's outcome!!!

[@GHOSTKILLERAAA]

@Michaelis Arcanjo , i know about that trial which you refer and its just pure italian poetry... Its completly wrong and they found their patsy. The italian judge were rushed after so many year to find a guilty guy... 1) For clean up the FIA's mess they did all that season. 2) Somehow tries to justify the death of a top pilot(...) 3) Clean up the italians justice image... So long trials. Whatever you say about a broken steering bar, doesnt justify the lack of power break and dont justifies the front air borned and lost grip. After the accident we all saw that the column was break but: 1) You dont know the examined weald was there before or after the accident. No one in the world can state that a 70/30 column steering bar will break. Looking at the 2 races before you saw a very poor aerodinamics of the car leading to Senna bad results. In the middle of the 94 championship you saw Hill's car much more competitive, because they changed the short and dangerous sidepods for longer ones, resulting more downforce, and faster turns... Im watching the whole big picture, not just a fragment which doesnt tell the reality. You can also watch the video of Senna's interview, just 15 days before, very upset with the mechanics, and he said:"Car turns very bad, if i try to correct its worst. Reacts bad to a bimpy tracks and its good going straight"... Thats the precise X-Ray of what happen. Now, should i belive on italian justice and FIA? COF COF COF. 3 Major FIA mistakes: Gave short period for teams to remove important safety systems from the car 2) Roland Ratzenberger had a instant death ON TRACK the day before. Medics said he never recovered hearth beat. Authopsy: Broken neck and a ruptured aorta. The race shouldnt never happen! 3) Allowed Williams to remove the Senna's car after the accident, based on their empiric facts... If you know portuguese check this video explaing the telemetry reading.. or put legends: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmOZfoutnb6KqrM ... And looking at probabilities... Having fadigue problems at the beginig of the race???? C'mon(...)

[@GHOSTKILLERAAA]

@Michaelis Arcanjo , what true facts? Its your vision of truth, not mine. Mine is rational, because i werent there being rushed in any situation nor did any mistake... Not all veridicts means the truth. The history tells that! You should know... DEAL WITH IT.

[@GHOSTKILLERAAA]

@Michaelis Arcanjo , you're just a stubborn delusional prick. bye, kid. I can scale up the cheap talk very fast, stupid idiot! You dont teach anything! Buy a brain and install it! Keep your track pal... You F*** idiot come here to reply my comment and then insult me? Are you half stupid or a complete pi*ce of sh*t?

[@GHOSTKILLERAAA]

@Michaelis Arcanjo , "prick"??? "Kid"???? We are schoolmates???? Who do you think you are talking with? With your delusional father? Your mum? AZZFACE! Why do you land here talking sh1t? May be you think are smart? Bad news. You are wrong!

[@danielsgrunge]

Of course Senna's cam cuts off.. FIA... I'm watching you

[@Mazaveli]

Weird how Sennas camera cuts out

[@philippealita3656]

FOM cut because of the post crash images, and Bernie still have this exclusive footage, but i don't know if it will be ever showed to the public. Maybe with Liberty the things can change...

[@LeFaviere]

@McLarenBMW the big thing is the last moment before the car hitting the wall...maybe we could see the wheel in senna's hands.

[@forsakenoutcast]

It weird, that’s exactly howAdrian newey and Patrick head wanted it.

[@zOVERt]

the footage was shortened and the black box was deliberately damaged before giving it to the investigators

[@klepetar]

this always bothered me.. how come damon has absolutely no parasites on his video and the quality is very good.. whereas, senna's turns off right after leaving the track? someone erased it.

[@pawelpawel9272]

Tak 100% ZOSTAŁ ZAMORDOWANY PRZEZ WLODAZY F1

[@fiors73]

Ezio Zermiani if i'm correct (rai main journalist) explained how "the guys of Williams gave back the blackbox pierced with a screwdriver"

[@caluzzucarrazzi5549]

Ya I agree with you completely it’s bs

[@cay7809]

iirc the senna onboard vid was from the senna movie, it cut off to change the shot from the onboard to the tv camera, I think the Damon hill one is from the broadcast

[@zOVERt]

the footage was shortened and the black box was deliberately damaged before giving it to the investigators

[@kioka2]

0:33 You can notice that after braking hard and Senna's head going forward, he looks down when he notices that the steering wheel doesn't respond anymore and then the camera is cut.

[@Alex_Hetherington]

Woah, after watching this video I thought exactly the same thing then scolled down to the comment and my eyes blipped to your comment now I'm typing this reply. I bet if we saw the missing 1.4 seconds of Senna's crash we would see him put the wheel in his lap and just be a passenger

[@Tg18460]

@@Alex_Hetheringtonthere’s a high quality upload from BehindTheWheel, with a couple million views that is basically an uncut clip of Imola 1994 from the start till after Sennas crash + Australian news reports after. It’s a very high quality image, so I noticed when the helicopter shots that we are all too familiar with were playing, the quality was actually so good I could make out a yellow button from the steering wheel (which is quite famous in this case with all the investigative work done on it through the onboards) shining directly out of the cockpit, and it appears to come from Sennas lap, facing upwards, not facing forwards if the wheel was still attached to the dash. Which it wasn’t. That’s what I’m getting at, you can actually see what is the steering wheel sitting in Sennas lap. Implying that it was completely disconnected, and I presume in the “lost footage” that’s what we would’ve seen, the wheel ripping out of his hands

[@anaestrela820]

E o áudio do capacete? Nos treinos para a pole ele falava com a equipe Sempre mostravam áudio dele com a equipe já também durante as corridas. Estranho esse silêncio sobre as imagens e o áudio....Pobre Senna, nao merecia esse fim, assim, como o iniciante Ratzenbeger.🙏😢😭

[@forsakenoutcast]

By just watching hills camera when the cars perfectly lined up with the cloud of dust where senna made initial impact with the wall ask yourself how the hell can you go dead straight like that unless there’s just no steering. It’s the only damn conclusion.

[@antoniodias1122]

In the Senna's video i just want to get your attention (going around of the broken steering bar theory) to the 2 right side parameters. The yellow one is Latacc which measures lateral G forces and the blue one, LongAcc which measures car's longitudinal G forces. Lets split this in 3 parts: 1 - When the yellow goes zero (0.33 bad sensor callibration) means he starts to go straight, because we can see there is no lateral forces applied. 2- When the blue peaks at -7.30 G, means a frontside car landing (Not breaking because max a f1 can break is 5G at max... If any F1 could break at 7G the pilot would be world champion for sure!). Yes, you listen well... Front side just landed again on track 3- After that and just before cutting the video, Senna's helm going forward... So how can he change direction and do an efficient break with flying front tires? He can't! (You can check the parameters pausing the video and using the "," and "." keys to check frame by frame. If you cant see clear the numbers, check watch?v=h26MXwhYWtQ . Its in brasilian the full explanation about what i just said here)

[@ilferrari]

Both drivers correct a bit over that bump, then resume steering left. But Senna's car does not respond.

[@weallfollowmanutd]

The car after coming off the bumps has far too much grip to simply fly off the track. There was a steering failure.

[@benediktschlegel8233]

@@weallfollowmanutd what about the issue of sudden oversteer at high speed (300 km/h). This can't be compatible with a steering failure.

[@weallfollowmanutd]

@@benediktschlegel8233 It's not oversteer. Its him checking the steering and the car goes over the bump, which puts it off line. He knew something was wrong

[@benediktschlegel8233]

@@weallfollowmanutd oversteer was the beginning, Senna steered into the slide and the car didn't respond. Oversteer at high speed (300 km/h) is always looking for trouble. The car jumped out as a slingshot. Nevertheless the whole aerodynamic of that Williams was completely shit.

[@weallfollowmanutd]

@@benediktschlegel8233 Nope you're wrong. The oversteer started or the car moved out of line because Senna was checking the steering. This corner was easily flat even in 1981.

[@benpannica7746]

Hill follows the same line so therefore went over the same bumps as Senna but he didn’t go straight on, proving that something was wrong with sennas car. And the thing that failed was the steering column and that’s backed up by the fact that the yellow button on sennas car is moving up and down and the column is flexing but on hills car there isn’t any flex

[@apiFerrari]

Hill didnt follow the same line...

[@apiFerrari]

​@@willywonka-nw2pz read some of Hill's statements, Senna took Tamburello in different line....

[@azapro911]

Hill has never believed that Senna's steering column broke and in case anyone thinks he's boot licking, bear in mind that his time at Williams ended somewhat acrimoniously, plus he was the guy who had to trust the same equipment 100% at the restart. Cold tyres, low pressures, car bottoming severely on those bumps at 200mph, suspected debris left from Lehto's car...it all accumulates.

[@benediktschlegel8233]

Sudden oversteer caused Senna's crash

[@foggybest]

Interesting to see that Hill is in fact taking a tighter line through tamburello than Senna. So much for his theory that Senna was pushing it too hard through that corner when he in fact is asking more of the car.

[@gt362gamer]

how the fuck can you overdrive a racing car in a turn like that? Nonsense.

[@GabrielVaiPanepinto]

Hill was behind Senna and slowed down after his crash...

[@dahuyvamvrot]

Senna's car was jumping on the road surface like crazy, look at the picture quality difference, the upper footage depicts how bad the vibration was. During the final moments it looks as he was driving through an earthquake. Steering column or not that car was barely driveable.

[@marciolucena3232]

#Senna #Sempre #Mito #Lenda!!! #Simply #The #Best!!!

[@weallfollowmanutd]

Again, yet another video that shows that Senna steered the car 'checking' not oversteering in order to feel if the steering is ok. Hill Steers more for a different reason. To make sure he avoids bits of car, however this is an interesting point. His car (Hill) doesn't decide to go straight mid corner.

[@matthewtucker2503]

how can you over correct with no steering?

[@tech4dummies584]

+matthew tucker Good point. Actually, watch from Schumacher's onboard camera behind Senna, you can see Senna actually, with a broken steering column, still got the car to move back to the left twice before the car hits the gravel trap. You can see the car "zig-zag" off the track a little, obviously he couldn't do much but it probably took everything he had to rub two pieces of broken metal together and get the car to even respond at 190+ mph.

[@benediktschlegel8233]

Senna corrected oversteer... The car jumped out as a slingshot after oversteer correction

[@paolociarpaglini9492]

No sttering column broken, just a great bump and his car flyed leterally, SLEEP not go straight, toward the wall .. And if you look with attention the images also the Hill steering had movments that no one else F1 had ..

[@benediktschlegel8233]

you forget sudden oversteer

[@bradleywicenciak8005]

Senna bottomed out and literally flew . Hill took the turn some 16mph slower and got thru

[@Csomorhanna]

It is very interesting, that Ayrton's camera is in much worse quality than Damon's. Hmmm, Why? 🤔

[@GabrieleGallagher27]

The quality was the same good quality as hill during all the weekend, except for the race. Very strange.

[@paolociarpaglini1303]

How said Blundell, his FW16 was too low. Many drivers told and insisted, during the years after, to say "impossible go straight during that large curve, just a mechanical fallire would been killed Ayrton". I think at the countrary, that there is always a first time. On this fantastic split and perfect sincronyzed video, there is the evident prove about. I, like all your, has saw hundreds times huge sparks comes out front the F1's back, but never in percorrence a more than 200 meters flat out curve, 3,62 G force as maximum (Ayrton's telemetry) 285 km/h in entrance and 312 around in exit, with a bad reasphalt. Somone in the comments rest surprised by the huge difference between Senna's vibration on camera and the clear camera view of Damon. The fact depends completely by the suspenctions rigidity. More low is an F1, more rigid will be it. The conclusion is in front of your eyes. Senna's Williams was lower around 1 centimeter and half or two, than Damon's FW16. Too much or impossible?, no. It's clearly visible by the left mirrors. There is two points on both Williams, fixed in the same point ; the on board camera and the lateral mirrors. If you look by the camera the mirror up limit border, on Hill FW16, the longitudinal suspenction and steering bar, are almost totally covered by the mirror. On Senna's Williams at the countrary, both bars are clearly visible. On two equals F1, the difference should be around very few millimeters, but in this case how you can see there was a huge difference. Damon won't take to much risks, Ayrton at the countrary was a warrior and master in driving control and chose the "maximum allowed". In the six lap probably his Williams was lower around 1 millimeter at couse of the safety car, but in this case the tyres allowed more the bad reasphalt or probably Senna closed a bit less hard the percorrence line. During the seventh lap his percorrence line was a bit close to the border reasphalt and the impact was too hard. The car lost the directionality, but not at couse of the column steering failure, otherwise Ayrton would have braked immediately. Him first tried to regain the car control. On the asphalt was not founded signs of braking, the braking short sign was founded after the grass, at few meters by the low wall. That's the my point of view about the couse of the crash 🙏..

[@paolociarpaglini1303]

@@martindenckermann9624 vero, sono posizionate leggermente in modo diverso, lo si evince dalla distanza dal cruscotto e dal confronto con gli adesivi. Ma perchè inizio a frenare 8 decimi dopo il rilascio completo dell'acceleratore?. Insomma parliamo di un super driver, che i soli 2 decimi, prima parzializzó e poi rilasció del tutto l'acceleratore.. In merito al mio inglese, ho 60 anni e da 16 lavoro presso la Galleria degli Uffizi (security) e "due o tre parole" le ho imparate. Saluti..

[@paolociarpaglini1303]

@@martindenckermann9624 a proposito, cosa pensi in merito al grafico dove dalla telemetria, sembrerebbe che la velocità (linea azzurrina in alto) passó in soli 8 decimi di secondo, da oltre 300 km/h a 50 km/h?. Una decelerazione di fatto impossibile, perché corrisponderebbe a ben 15 G, se non qualcosa di più ?.

[@paolociarpaglini1303]

@@martindenckermann9624 sono sempre stato per tutti, il Ciarpa.., non preoccuparti minimamente. In merito alla forza applicata allo sterzo, che dire?. Il grafico parte dal sec. 11 (10,8) ed è lì che sembrano iniziare le correzioni impartite da Senna. Ad 11,5 raggiunge il valore massimo registrato, per poi calare ed oscillare fino all'impattó su valori altalenanti, ma privi di un importante sforzo o sterzata. Da quando ad 11,5 Senna rilascia completamente l'acceleratore ed è quindi ormai consapevole di avere un problema serio, la rottura del piantone in pista, per chi crede in questa ipotesi, la forza applicata allo sterzo, sarebbe dovuta apparire credo, come una linea piatta. Ed invece continua ad avere variazioni, seppure con variazioni minori del sec. 11,5. Non ho nessun dubbio in merito al fatto che la registrazione video, sia stata "lavorata", troppo preciso e corrispondente agli attimi più importanti, per credere al presunto passaggio ad altro. E poi, perchè quelli della Williams, corsero a prelevare le scatole nere?. Ti confesso, che il cedimento della sospensione posteriore dx, con conseguente sollevamento delle ruote anteriori, inizia a prendere campo in me, anche perchè era in totale appoggio proprio sull'asse destro. Ma perchè, se così fosse, dall'on board di Michael, non si vede nessuno sfregamento... Un vero rompitesta, che credo non troverà mai una spiegazione certa. Vado al lavoro, saluti..

[@Tg18460]

If you watch this video, you’d actually notice Sennas suspension had more travel than Hills, therefore it was softer. Technically would’ve been easier to negotiate Tamburello with softer rather than harder suspension

[@mramaz1ngarry728]

There's more suspension travel on Senna's left front than Hill.

[@luizwendel8251]

Minha teoria sobre o movimento brusco do capacete do Senna sempre foi devido a uma a freada brusca, Mas vendo a camera onboard do Hill mudei de ideia.

[@thiagocunha1646]

Se o sena tivesse freado, o carro tinha rodado, igual o de Piquet. o carro desacelerou pq ele estava fora de si. E um freada brusca, faria marcas na pista.

[@brunovaz5514]

Uns falam que esse movimento alem do normal do capacete de Senna foi por causa de um mal súbito que Senna teve antes da batida. Vai se saber. Mas o que intriga mais ainda é o movimento da direção que sai de curso de forma estranha, dando impressão que o volante ficou "bobo" nas mãos dele.

[@philippealita3656]

@@brunovaz5514 Essas conspirações é coisa de gente ignorante, o volante foi mal soldado na parte da barra de direção e devido a ondulação crítica da pista ele quebrou, com o mesmo saindo na mão do Ayrton. É possível notar que ele percebe o fato e meio que inconscientemente tenta puxar o carro pra esquerda, assim como o seu pescoço.

[@fabiomoysesbm]

@@thiagocunha1646 cara procura o jornal Nacional do 2 de maio de 94, o Cabrine mostra as marcas de freada no asfalto, a telemetria do carro mostou tbm q ele estava freando!

[@thiagocunha1646]

@@fabiomoysesbm Vdd amigão Foi viagem minha O carro ficou como se tivesse no gelo deslizando na pista, a aquela curva era muito perigosa e acho q o carro do Shumak tava c marmelada e exigiu muito do Sena. Aí deu no q deu.

[@483972]

you really can't see how Sennas car goes into maximum G and then into 0 G :) and going forward? :) .... his body leaning left and 100% brake ... steering failure is the only thing that happened and Williams - suck

[@antonioascari3294]

Senna estava mais rapido que Hill e bateu o fundo do carro mais forte perdendo apoio aerodinamico e saindo da pista

[@RavenReilly3456]

If any two onboard cameras are mounted at the same point we get to see identical images but who can tell me how It can be that I may see two different wheel suspension's something is wrong about this video

[@monikar3425]

AYRTONA SENNE ZAMORDOWALI

[@sileneoliveira710]

Repare sena vai pra frente do cockipite mas que ocnormal

[@sileneoliveira710]

Parece que alguém anormal com a cabeça do sena como sofresse algum impacto feontal

[@edilsonchaves740]

Na saida da t amborelo veja a fumaca5 saindo das arvores depois disso sena perde o controle do carro e bate no murro o carro vai direro nao houver quebra nemhuma n carro da wuillians e si m com piloto sena algo acontece com ele veja que acabeca dele vai par grente e volta uma coisa anormal aconteceu con sena ao foi so acidente mas outea coisa

[@surneen]

Essa fumaça aí é o carro do Senna depois de bater no muro

[@pauliefromphilly]

His car gets loose, he over corrects, off into the wall

[@tech4dummies584]

+pauliefromphilly This is incorrect

[@UniversalSoljrr]

Check out Senna The truth behind imloa

[@bighimey]

"In a 381-page ruling, Judge Antonio Constanzo concluded that steering column failure was the probable cause of Senna's accident, however, there was no proof of negligence on the part of Head or Newey, or that they had designed the modifications in the first place." When the case was re-opened, "the Italian Supreme Court rejected a request for the acquittal of Patrick Head, ruling Head responsible for "badly designed and badly executed modifications", and that the event was "foreseeable and preventable". But yeah, whatever.

[@rounick28]

Your dad got loose, he under corrects, 9 months later an idiot is born.

[@weallfollowmanutd]

This corner was never one where you would be making any big corrections. No one crashed here before due to a driving error. Senna was noticing something was wrong, checked the steering and the car went straight. Even the worst car took this corner flat out.

[@NationOfMasturbation]

He's trying to steer left but can't?

[@benediktschlegel8233]

Yes, he corrected sudden oversteer and the car jumped out from the bumps. The bumps caused a loss of downforce for turning the car around. This was high speed in combination with braking.

[@ninec5257]

And the rest of the field drove over the bumps without loosing downforce and without your oversteer that doesnt exist at any time. The car wobbled when the steering broke. If his car jumped on braking then how is it possible he maintained 4,1gs constant when braking?

[@benediktschlegel8233]

@@ninec5257 oversteer is easy to detect when you see the onboard without slow motion. At certain point the Williams turned too much left which Senna catched. Senna took more risks than Hill for pushing the Williams as fast as possible with a lower car set up. The car was finally braking at high speed which means the front tyres get the grip. that grip was lost just before.

[@ninec5257]

If he had oversteer and moore grip on the front tires he would have gone sideways but at that time steering column broke so it did not happen because he was still steering left when the car starts to go straight.

[@ninec5257]

Here is that sudden oversteer problem. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJfQlpJohKiHj8k&pp=ygUkV2lsbGlhbXMgMTk5NCBwYXNpZmljIHNlbm5hIHByYWN0aWNl

[@chilicheesetwat8490]

LOL at how Senna fans (who still can‘t stop crying and need to find someone to blame for their idol‘s death, i.e. Williams) point out that this video proves anything related to steering column failure when, in fact, it DOESN‘T… Instead, only few people here noticed that, in comparison to Hills car, Senna‘s car is jumping far more up and down over the track surface, rather supporting the fact that it skated off the road… Oh and btw for all the physics noobs here: if your car loses downforce, you won‘t move the tyres by a single degree even if you try to push the steering wheel, which is why Senna‘s wheels stay straight and he veers off the road. Had there been an onboard view of Ratzenberger‘s crash, you would actually observe the same thing: tyres pointing straight with no attempt of correction. But yeah, I guess die hard Senna fans would find a proof there too for the steering column theory. Regarding the comment to Senna being the greatest of all time: Hamilton would pretty much wipe the floor with him for reasons of unbelirvable

[@tato5743]

1st: you can not compare Hamilton with Senna, both drove different times, different cars that requires different driving styles. 2. There is no way, that even applying maximum steer lock the tyres keep going straight, they should move at least, even if the car keeps going straight, you can't say the tyres get glued to the ground when downforce is lost, that is the most stupid argument i have seen here, i mean, expected coming from a Hamilton fanboy (such a shame, Hamilton fans are completely the opposite of Hamilton, since he is a kind and a very nice person, not like you) 3. You are compraing 2 completely different accidents lmao, i'ts like comparing zhou guanyu accident at silverstone with the alonso australia 2016. You know nothing, people like you doesn't deserve to watch f1, for real, they should ban all f1 broadcasts for people like you, that will stop you from talking bs.