Santa Fe-Trona-Western Pacific Vignettes 60's and 70's

[@mr.j2776]

Some of those WP diesels looked really worn, but were still a sight to behold.

[@nstrainfanyt]

I actually heard the story of when the flying scotsman visited the U.S. Did not think i'd find a video like this!

[@DK-nv9zu]

Wow, this is some primo color footage with sound!

[@fmnut]

Sound is dubbed in, originally silent film.

[@chuckgilly]

Another film treasure, gotta love them Trona Baldwin center cabs.

[@rimodeler7963]

Excellent film footage. The late 60's and early 70's were a great period in railroading and these images really capture the flavor of the time. Thank you for sharing! Mike

[@erikkorschenhausen6968]

The good old F-Units! One of them with a giant snow plug, wow!

[@MrBnsftrain]

7:25 I didn't expect to see the Flying Scotsman in this video!

[@mile290productions3]

I didnt expect to see Union Pacific!

[@fmnut]

@@mile290productions3 the UP trains were run thru power from Salt Lake City.

[@hcrun]

@@mile290productions3 That was when the locomotive was touring the USA.

[@PC10.8]

Fantastic video! Strange to see the Flying Scotsman being pulled along by that big American diesel

[@fmnut]

I've always said that British trains look like narrow gauge equipment on standard gauge track.

[@PC10.8]

Haha yeah! Especially when put next to an American train

[@TheDaf95xf]

WOW would of loved seeing those monster locomotives powering across the rails 😁 Great seeing the Flying Scotsman 4472 kettle in the US 👍🏻 It's been rebuilt and doing lots of specials around the UK 🇬🇧 with thousands of fans watching it pass by 🤣 Nit my type of steam engine as I was a BR midland fan 😂 Great video a English rail fan.

[@allegheny48]

Nice to see second generation diesels resplendent in their road colors before all the mergers took place and cabooses became redundant. Also nice to see some pre-AMTRAK passenger trains. Plenty of first generation diesels too, some looking a bit tired, but still bearing the names of railroads no longer in existence. Seeing the Flying Scotsman was an added bonus. Sound effects, were spot on. Thanks for compiling this and happy holidays to you.

[@AlcoLoco251]

Was not expecting the Flying Scottsman in this. Thank you.

[@chonga6442]

Another great video. So many fun scenes! I love the WP rolling through desert landscape with an absolutely enormous snowplow. Very "western USA." Also the center cab Baldwins were great. Once looked at as non-descript diesels by steam era fans, now as far removed from the rail scene as the steam they replace. An early Christmas present. Thank you.

[@tombarnes7196]

Glad you were there to record these images of all the Fallen Flags! RIP.

[@peterhanahoe4913]

Fantastic stuff, you're doing an amazing job with these old films, I didn't expect the Flying Scotsman and Trona Baldwins in the same film.

[@fmnut]

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!

[@hornhospital]

@@fmnut LOL! Hilarious reference! GREAT video, looking forward to more!

[@TheChicagoL]

I didn't know British steamers could run that well on American rails.

[@fmnut]

@@TheChicagoL same gauge, just had to add US style couplers. Also a pilot (cowcatcher) and a bell to comply with then-current ICC regs. It wouldn't be possible today, too many non compliances per FRA standards.

[@mp165]

AWESOME Awseome - More more please . very MAGICAL Stuff --Yaya very well Done. LOVED it !!!

[@chuckgilly]

We want more, we want more!!

[@ronhenry1186]

Way cool. I didn't even know there was a Western Pacific RR

[@tymbom60]

How about the Northern Pacific? Missouri Pacific? Northwestern Pacific? South Southwestern Pacific (Cotton Belt)? There's some fallen flags...

[@blackbirdgaming8147]

@@tymbom60 Cotton Belt=SSW=St. Louis Southwestern, not South Southwestern Pacific. Northwestern Pacific isn’t really a fallen flag. It still exists. Perhaps you were thinking of the Chicago and Northwestern?

[@blackbirdgaming8147]

Lots of fallen flags out there, many with interesting stories and paint schemes to match. The Central of Georgia and The Richmond, Fredericksburg, and Potomac are both favorites of mine.

[@kraigkasten]

the Eisenhower train featured in your video, now resides in the National RR Museum in Green Bay, WI

[@fmnut]

I think you're mixed up. The British steam loco shown in the WP portion of the video was the "FLYING SCOTSMAN", a Gresley A3 class pacific. It toured the US and Australia before returning to the UK as part of the National Railway Museum collection. The DWIGHT D EISENHOWER is a Gresley A4 pacific of the same class as MALLARD which set the world speed record for steam locomotion. That's the one that is in Green Bay now. Both were designed by the same man and both were LNER pacifics, but the similarity ends there.

[@37418]

Nice hit of classic footage 👍👍

[@cats0182]

Love the yellow cab paint scheme on the SF.

[@samh3029]

Great footage. Thanks for uploading

[@EmergencyGuy]

If you noticed the cabooses in this video, they’re a long since forgotten item of the past. Replaced by FREDs, cabooses have become few and far between on the railroad. Especially on mainlines. Tough to fathom how long cabooses were around. The caboose probably started out around the beginning of the steam era with trains pulling them to allow extra crew members to ride on board. Sometimes, the steamers would do what’s called “double headers”. That means there were 2 engineers, 2 firemen, and only 1 conductor that both engineers had to look back at to see the signals given. Not so today. Today’s diesels have enough power to pull trains even when remotely controlled from the lead locomotive.

[@SPNGLovato18]

Really nice footage

[@idahobuckaroo8348]

Fantastic!

[@JeffreyOrnstein]

Very good, thanks.

[@dutch2120]

Now that's a plow at 10:33 on the F unit!

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

Maybe for SAND in the desert regions of the southwest?

[@MrBsHiawathalandRails]

That sure is some nice footage!

[@tracynation239]

Another premium video. ♡ T.E.N.

[@bboomer1948]

Like the Alligator at 1:00 and CF-7's at 2:40 . Was the WP on its last legs at the time?

[@PennCentral-jn2ow]

That was great!!! Someone tell me what that long locomotive was that had the cab smack in the middle. At 5:48 of the clip? I assume a Baldwin? Never seen that before

[@fmnut]

Baldwin DT6-6-2000. Not many produced. EJ&E and Santa Fe were the only big purchasers. Cotton Belt had 1.

[@chuckgilly]

They were made for transfer service, for that the railroads loved them because they were big and heavy with lots of tractive effort for transfer jobs.

[@PennCentral-jn2ow]

now because of the rise of using DPUs one would think that design can be made by GE or EMD to be utilized as such

[@thud105f]

Just a little kid then. Would love to go back to that time. What is missing?......Oh yeah graffiti!

[@AndreiTupolev]

Some fantastic lashups. And cabooses. And mo graffiti at all! 😀

[@oldenweery7510]

About 2:22: how much horsepower do they _need_ to get a train over that division? I thought I counted EIGHT units in that consist, but later thought maybe nine---or even ten? Great footage!

[@fmnut]

Some of the power may have been coming out of San Bernadino shops being deadheaded. It was not unusual to see huge consists in that era, though. SP liked to tie on a whole yard's worth of cars in one train in slow drags. Santa Fe liked to run them fast, either way meant lots of power.

[@jaggedben]

It also kinda looks like there are four brand spanking new U36Cs in there, in the fresh new 1972 paint scheme, possibly on their way out to San Bernardino from the factory in Erie, for the first time.

[@markjohnson4924]

I recognize some of the audio from the Arkay Enterprises Diesel Super Power album.

[@2quintly]

Thank god the WP handled the Flying Scotsman. Great clips.

[@jaggedben]

0:53 is westbound at Bealville. FYI

[@fmnut]

Yes. Unfortunately I lost the bidding on the reel that had the best Tehachapi and Cajon footage.

[@eva.cassidy]

Classic power.

[@luisp5036]

wait, that's the flying scotsman but that's from england

[@SeanBodine]

It was on a tour throughout America for a few years starting in 1969.

[@brentboswell1294]

Wow, Alco "Alligators" MU'ed with SD26'es... 😀

[@fmnut]

That would date the two clips of this train between 1973 and 1975 when the RSD-15's were retired from road service as the SD26 program only started in 73.

[@chuckgilly]

Those were SD-24's with the RSD-15's, the SD-24's were later rebuilt into SD26's, gotta love'em.

[@40belowful]

cool stuff:) what about some 60's or 70's Alaska railroad?

[@fmnut]

Working on it. I do have a video posted already on my channel, but I am going to redo it in better quality.

[@RailfanNetwork]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@KandRCustomModels]

Good sfuff!

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

4:35 what kind of light is that? Doesn't look to be a Gyralight. Looks to be spinning.

[@fmnut]

That is definitely a Gyralight. They spin in a circular pattern. You are thinking of a Mars light, which describes a figure eight from side to side. Gyralight was Pyle National's answer to the Mars light and had a much simplified mechanism in comparison. See my "The Rock Island in Film" video at 23:21 to see a good example of the Mars Light sideways figure eight pattern.

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

I have seen videos of Gyralights that operate with a "circle" pattern but none of them appeared to have the spinning wheel like on that locomotive. I understand that the Mars lights are more of an oscillating light and/or W beam pattern, oscillating on 2 axis.

[@fmnut]

@@Guillotines_For_Globalists I think it looks different to you because the lamp is right up against the lens glass rather than farther back in the housing as is more common.

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

@@fmnut Could be. For whatever reason this one struck me as appearing different as well.

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

@@fmnut I've gone back and watched quite a few Gyralight videos. In all of them the light bulb remains centralized but moves in a circular pattern, but the axis is fixed. The gyralight in your video shows a spinning plate with a fixed light bulb and does not tilt or wobble around, only the disc or plate it is mounted to spins. I'm thinking these are 2 entirely different designs?

[@amtrak706]

Is this original sound?

[@fmnut]

no, all sounds were dubbed in.

[@keithode1737]

Where's the location at 0:40?

[@fmnut]

Not sure. I didn't shoot this stuff, I barely had my driver's license back then. Being the photographer was from the Bay Area, it's probably somewhere between Pittsburg and Pinole in those hills, although I can't find an exact match for the terrain on Google Earth. Maybe someone else can help.

[@keithode1737]

@@fmnut A ha Pinole, thank you very much. I bet it's shot from the cut in Hercules just east of Pinole (train is westbound). I grew up in this area and still live in Pinole. I can recognize the hill contour in the distance, the curve of tracks into the cut but every thing else is totally changed! Thank you for the upload!

[@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014]

4:08 FP45 cameo!

[@IGuessIDoThings]

Frankly I prefer 10 EMD locos rather than three GE locos

[@brentboswell1294]

Sad to see the Super Chief down to 5 cars...

[@fmnut]

If you watch carefully, you will see there is a break in the film between 4:51 and 4:52 where the photographer left off the shutter. It happens so fast if you blink you'll miss it. I missed it in the editing process, or I would have put a short dissolve in there. If you pause at 4:54 it looks like 11 cars. This may be a San Diegan, not the Super Chief as there are no Hi Levels in the consist. At the time of this filming the SC was combined with the El Capitan. If anyone can identify the location that would help nail it down.

[@Greatdome99]

@@fmnut The views of the psgr train from above a tunnel portal are most likely the San Francisco Chief somewhere east of Pinole in northern CA. It ran Hi-Level coaches, dome-lounge and low-level diners and Pullmans. Those tracks don't look like anything on Cajon or environs, since it's single-track. The short coach train would be a San Diegan for sure.

[@jaggedben]

@@Greatdome99 Thanks for that comment, I was thinking similar thoughts. It would be nice to have confirmation of that tunnel location, although I think it could be the east side of tunnel 3 in Martinez. (I'm talking about 0:36 and 4:09). I do not recognize the location at 4:32 although the fact that the train seems to be all coaches narrows down the possibilities.

[@hardyhector8308]

like train

[@JohnR.1968]

Steam 3751 ,at1:25

[@JohnR.1968]

Steam#3751

[@mile290productions3]

4:38 *_you spin me right round baby right round, like an axle baby right, round, round, round._* But seriously though who finds that spinning light funny?

[@kyaing9047]

its a mars light my guy

[@mile290productions3]

@@kyaing9047 thank you kind goat man.