Santana & Ortiz Turned Down WWE For AEW

Former AEW wrestler Mike Santana talks about how Proud N Powerful turned down WWE to sign with AEW
#aew #wwe #wrestling

[@ansonyjimenez4168]

I can respect the fact that he wanted to be with his family more than collecting a big check! Now and days once you’re done with wrestling sometimes even family isn’t there anymore after so much time away.

[@Wnb-tj7fm]

He did collect a big check thoe he made way more than what He's worth and what WWE would have paid him because they would have paid him what he's worth and not crazy numbers to draw in any talent you can to try n out due the bigger company like Snow man Khan did.

[@Dale-jr7oj]

Of course he went for the less days and bigger pay cause Kahn is a dumbass

[@PBLightning145]

No

[@packedentertainment2866]

But then why’d they leave TNA for AEW when they were killing it with putting on instant classics with OVE & The Lucha Bros

[@showtime1235]

@@Wnb-tj7fmtrashing tk for paying his wrestlers good is so weird

[@gauravpatil9652]

after this, Rey's HoF speech hits different how much his wife sacrificed for his dream especially during his early days.

[@andrew-rn9ui]

Worth it tho since her son has a career to keep the torch going and the family has generational wealth thanks to rey, I'd argue she had it easiest by getting to see all the kids grow up with an endless supply of money and knowing Latino families she probably had cousins aunts and uncles and grandparents to help raising em not like she did it ALL on her own , rey had it the worst tbh, dom lived a sons dream going to all the shows and being on tv and now being a huge star , the daughter idk , seems like Rey's around more for her being only part time now at least

[@Coolbeast-gc2hj]

What I like is that he said at that time really shows how much triple h has let wrestlers spend more time with family

[@PBLightning145]

No

[@Evan-dm3si]

@@PBLightning145yes and that is actually common knowledge. they do hardly any live events, pre-tape shows for holidays, and work less road dates. educate yourself

[@PBLightning145]

@@Evan-dm3si L

[@thedongripper1336]

@@PBLightning145🤡

[@romxxii]

@@Evan-dm3si they still do live events, just fewer dates. Looking at the current calendar, after WM week there's a lull, then they go back to at least 3 a week.

[@CreateToInitiate]

Absolutely fair answer. That's VERY respectable.

[@RashadSims-bh3zz]

It's not a fair answer people make me laugh when they go its fair u may not like the answer but again money ain't everything period

[@CreateToInitiate]

@@RashadSims-bh3zz He did what was right for himself and his family. What really is there to complain about? It was literally his decision. On top of that, they weren't he wasn't exactly top bill in AEW now, was he?

[@CreateToInitiate]

He wasn't gonna be top bill in WWE either, AND he would have missed important moments with his family due to how gruelling the travel schedule is in WWE.

[@CreateToInitiate]

Sometimes, you have to stay where your bread is buttered. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.

[@RashadSims-bh3zz]

@@CreateToInitiate i agree u got some people who love to run their mouth about how wwe is best its okay just being honest marketing wise phenomenal booking now not so much

[@charizard4321]

Wwe schedule is for a person who's single cause honestly its hard for married people who arent in the business

[@danielfryer8768]

Or you have to be married to someone with a massive backbone.

[@IMzKDC23]

​@@danielfryer8768And someone who's in the business with you.

[@KCHRider]

Respect to AJ Styles. That man has been loyal to his wife and kids.

[@molsy1768]

​@KCHRider shouldn't it be respect to his wife?

[@christiansellers2751]

I didn't realize that you knew exactly what happens with their schedules or what their schedules are like... Maybe shut the fuck up😊

[@andregordon2599]

I can’t stop thinking about the fact that the top guys in wrestling can straight up miss a huge portion of their kids lives. I’d never be able to do that

[@cleetusmcdougle4609]

people question why the big names from japan and that sign with AEW and other brands over WWE, it all comes down to the scheduling, WWE restricts your schedule and doesnt allow you to take outside work, even with being a independent contractor (WWE signs their talent as I.Cs but lock them into WWE ventures) AEW gives them the freedom they need to be a parent, no one wants to have the relationship the flairs had

[@SteelyDanzig]

WWE gives you absolutely no freedom creatively or personally. Imagine being an "independent contractor" and then being told you can't have a supplemental income without kicking a percentage back to your employer. It's a fucking joke and borderline if not totally illegal.

[@Triple-Four]

​@@SteelyDanzigWWE has several people with some creative freedom for their gimmicks and ideas. You can't let your talent have 100% creative freedom because it's a business and everybody else would want the same treatment. Rollins, Reigns, Ripley, Owens, Gunther, Zayn, Stratton, Naomi, Bianca, and tons more all came up with their gimmicks and get their ideas cleared often.

[@Shisui5752]

​@@SteelyDanzig There's no such thing as completely creative freedom in all these companies nowadays. Even TK has said that it's a dumb thing to give that to wrestlers.

[@SteelyDanzig]

I never said they should have 100% creative freedom you bananaheads

[@kemanicarter7333]

Everyone missed the point it’s about being with why do think Becky lynch and Seth aren’t on tv at the same time that much because someone needs to watch the baby there’s a video out I can’t remember who but this was 2014 and they said we wrestlers work 300 days a year that’s 5 days off every month that’s why some don’t sign with www unless they put it in contract like Roman ,Brock etc

[@JacobWrestledGod]

I really respect that. He made his choice and he’s happy

[@thelonewolf7287]

The problem is because he talked about it he wanted more for the team and todo more, but with WWE, it is a full-time investment, and that's too much, so there's no happy medium When comes to booking and that if there ever was a perfect medium it was TNA

[@watcher314]

Dominik Toretto would be proud -

[@cmscalvert]

I hope those guys are ok, and I hope they reunite someday too. I saw their last match on Rampage live. Too short for what should have been a better story.

[@PeytonManning187]

Honestly it was a good move at the time. We all know WWE didn’t like tag teams back then so they might’ve been seen as failures.

[@QbSon86]

It's not like tag teams are front and center nowadays in WWE either. At the top it's mostly single wrestlers paired together.

[@MrDrsogood]

Tony treated them like job squad in aew

[@cerebralsamurai8382]

They would have been jobbers for New Day and released after that so good move overall

[@MrDrsogood]

@@cerebralsamurai8382 we haven’t seen Ortiz in ages and Santana decided to leave lol

[@SonRob01]

Notice that it’s past tense he’s definitely going NXT now that his daughter is older

[@SteelyDanzig]

He's not a 19-year-old pole vaulter or football player so WWE probably has no interest

[@SonRob01]

@@SteelyDanzig that was Vince’s NXT it’s back to signing Wrestlers again just less

[@luisrevo3595]

I've always thought that WWE schedule is crazy. House shows, TV, secondary shows, PPV, and all while touring around the world, is crazy

[@HiPHOPx87]

This why im a fan of his. Real dude right here

[@TheOnlyDTM]

I wouldve done the same. Family over anything

[@David-fc3lx]

Would love to see them with LWO but great decision

[@NylanderHas5StarDragonBalls]

He made the right decision 100%. He did what’s best for his family and not himself which sucks he won’t get to properly live out his dream but to responsible and sound people that’s worth the sacrifice

[@MultitaskingGuy]

Choosing to be a wrestler a is odd job choice if you wanna see your family all the time

[@mike7683]

There is so many jobs out there if u wanna stay home I understand being away sucks I do it all the time for work

[@The_RealBigOunce]

It’s a shame because I would have liked to see them in wwe but it’s good that they stood on what they believe in even if it meant less money

[@Da_Infamous]

If you're on the road 250 days a year "for work" until you get a "real life injury" you will miss SO MUCH of your childs life thats about the only time theres "gender equality" as a small child.... a little baby girl needs her "daddy" as much as a little baby boy needs his father.....

[@blacklegmonk]

People fail to realize the sacrifice one has to make to get that big paycheck, regardless of the field you working in. I got a coworker (cook) who makes 90k+. He's also told me stories of his family asking how much he makes in a day, and them offering him that so he can come to a family event.

[@Jinzo9988]

I hope that's something WWE gets to now that Vince is gone... like among the slew of changes that you'd think would be made with a transition like that, I hope this is one of them.

[@angeldaroseli3031]

Very understandable, you get to go on the main roster right away. No developmental. Knowing Tony the money was probably alright. Smart move with the current leadership in WWE, they don’t mind if you make yourself a star before coming over.

[@chaoticcarti347]

Very fair answer but if that was me. 🤣🤣 my kid gonna be happy when the wwe money starts coming in

[@deathmauler181]

You're not a parent are you. You sure don't talk like one. Money can't buy seeing your kids grow up ,or being there for their events, personal achievements birthdays etc. And while money is important, it's secondary to being involved in your kid's life

[@animejat]

@@deathmauler181 As a child myself (15, still a child though), nothing would mean more to me than being in my kid's life (kids' lives if my future wife and I want to have multiple)

[@RashadSims-bh3zz]

See thsts the thing though some so called fans have to realize this when you are constantly traveling on the road u never could see your kids u never home money aint everything

[@cam3ron617]

Now he can because he’s never on tv. Hey man good on you. Made the best decision for yourself. Would’ve loved to see yall in wwe though

[@tylerwright5005]

Respect bro Idek who he is or what his story is but that’s about as legit you can be for a reason to not join wwe

[@eduardoesquivias7038]

Good man

[@flashbrito6]

Took less money to be with his family with more time respect

[@michaelbeaule1966]

I'm so sick and tired of seeing that move where somebody is shouldering someone's head to a mat. Seems like everyone's doing it and it's supposed to be some special closing move.

[@animejat]

That diamond cutter-like move at the beginning?

[@Ullr94]

Without his partner/known costumes and name, he might as well be new.

[@fitcv2752]

AEW is the right choice for you

[@Unethical_Ethical_HackTips]

Sounds like he wants the perks of wrestling without the work. Theres that aew attitude

[@paulalbert6970]

WWE is business friendly AEW is family friendly

[@jj204]

WWE is the pros. Aew is a money mark playing with his toys.

[@abdullahhamidaddin8156]

That's fair

[@newby547]

This dude is talking like its the 80s-90s wwe...dudes take off time all the time for their kids now

[@mike7683]

Right only top guys are on TV every week

[@JosePaezChavez]

He didn't even hit his head😂😂😂

[@hlacoille]

That first clip is so bad.

[@quintenandrews9284]

Aew over wwe is a poor decision. If it wasn’t for family you’d be kicking yourself

[@j2xosorio24]

this is why AEW is better

[@mike7683]

Oh really when's the last time he was on TV

[@Tchito]

But sometimes you gotta leave to provide for the family bruh he missed out on a opportunity of a lifetime

[@ImaDoomvenger]

Just say, they paid you more

[@adamrasheed257]

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[@blablablaa14]

"If we get called up, we knew we wouldn't see our kids" is wild

[@donsnyder4364]

That's because AEW overpaid lessler talent just to have some average talent.

[@alexanderzukic7886]

If you wanna see your kids grow up you've picked the wrong profession

[@ericlavergne5764]

He aint bout that WWE life

[@ntandosithebe8873]

They would probably join the LWO 😂

[@ericmonaco4509]

Or LDF

[@johnnycampbell8223]

He should be a stay at home dad then and not a wrestler

[@mike7683]

100 percent just laziness

[@Jake_C75]

So why even start the discussion with wwe? Tf 😂😂😂

[@KidTrappBeats]

Yeah thats why he’s not in WWE 😂

[@youarekiddingme1346]

😂😂 What a dork

[@ballin302008]

Children killing dreams lol

[@DarkPhoenix203Ct]

imagine telling one of the best tag teams on earth that they need to go develop in nxt for a yr. I bet WWE would of changed everything about them too, including their names and gimmick. basically everything that made them the wrestlers that they are and the wrestlers that got noticed by WWE in the 1st place. This is one of wwes biggest issues, pretending like these guys aren't known by ppl already with developed fanbases who support them for they are and not what WWE wants to change them in to

[@jasoncastillo9017]

Not a great loss

[@simgarfu]

Bullshit. They were paid far better at AEW than what WWE was going to pay them for a developmental contract. That’s assuming he’s even telling the truth about WWE wanting them

[@Kobe24brady12]

They should’ve went

[@SteelyDanzig]

Probably would've been more like 2 or 3 years in NXT, then called up to the main roster and given some stupid racist gimmick and forgotten about within 6 months.

[@jackapples1]

Santana would never become a main event guy, so what’s the point in bringing him over

[@antivenom56]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@luv4chr1s]

what does that gotta do with anything

[@mike7683]

He never gonna be a top guy in AEW either

[@henrylaz6252]

Such a lie lmao

[@CasoDoBronx]

Now he’s a nobody… he’ll regret it .

[@pumpkinkingca2010]

Never was a anybody

[@tylerblair318]

They came in hot after their run in TNA basically yoinking Homicide's gimmick and then they let their own pettiness of not being friends anymore ruin their careers. Now he's just gonna be a job guy on the indies because he has literally no charisma. At least Ortiz has put on some mass and can cut a promo. Santana just sucks.

[@BeardOfRiker]

He’s not gonna regret being with his family over wrestling for WWE.

[@Frosty8111]

WWE isnt the only wrestling promotion y'know

[@shunakiyama6275]

He'll regret choosing his kids over his career?

[@keithhamill5754]

HE STINKS 😂😂😂😂

[@ThePuppet001]

Lol 😂 ain't nobody even know your name, fella

[@williammoore6128]

More people know his name than yours fella

[@deathmauler181]

He's more widely known than most of aew stars for example cause of his time in tna. And he's known well enough that big wigs at wwe reach out. You people and your goofy pov need to cut the shit