Sardonicast 157: 2024 Oscar Noms, Waterworld (feat.

[@Jotar0w0]

This ralph guy has such good chemistry he should be a permanent host

[@B1G_WENGH]

His audio is great too! Crisp and clear.

[@NoFoxGvn]

I love Ralph he’s always been enjoyable to watch and hear over the years

[@user-dw6mm7jg2z]

@@NoFoxGvnthat’s funny do you have any more bits

[@Noel_95]

Nah he's awful and im glad they kicked him off the podcast. Guy is a professional movie reviewer but can't properly articulate a coherent sentence.

[@lukec6d9]

Agree

[@marco0o00o]

I like the idea of Ralph coming back for special occasions like the Oscars or every hundredth episode

[@Jake-jo4fw]

Or every episode

[@mabusestestament]

Why did he leave in the first place?

[@zacharyjune7510]

​@@mabusestestamenthe leave because he does paerry everyday

[@mabusestestament]

@@zacharyjune7510 He does what every day?

[@zacharyjune7510]

@@mabusestestament -.- rly troll

[@JojosCrazyChannel]

I’m relieved that Ralph managed to escape the Russians

[@benimanah]

I'm glad they let Ralph out of the dark place for a bit

[@MichaelMichael-us6wq]

Too bad he’s trying to stay low from the fuzz

[@carter_lovejoy]

I hope he comes back as a cohost again in the near future. I miss him on here.

[@jefftobi4510]

Yeah I thought his take on avatar 2 was pretty outlandish but I think Adam sentencing him to 5 years in the dungeon for it was a tad too much

[@Floydthefuckbag]

I thought this was a joke until he didn't know about the Hbomb video

[@bluechalk6275]

He was locked in the basement of the Nutshack

[@gianjoseph8555]

That first minute got me emotional 🥹. The awkward chemistry is still there.

[@MarshaOnderstijn]

Back in 2022 I listened to all the episodes of Sardonicast while animating on Robot Dreams. And now we've come full circle, as I listen to Sardonicast talking about Robot Dreams! I haven't been able to see the finished movie yet, so I'm curious to see whether I'll agree with Alex or with Adam once I manage to catch it in the cinema. Love the pod guys

[@cleibarnhart]

That’s so cool!!

[@Jormbis]

they finally fixed ralph’s mic wooo

[@musicaleuphoria8699]

After all these years.

[@guin705]

Incredibly awkward first minute, glad things are back to normal!

[@matthewscanlan8001]

Wouldn’t want it any other way

[@py16667]

It usually is lol

[@cameron2069]

I have to say, I would prefer this guest as a third host WAY more than Ralph. The guy actually sounds like he knows them, for one thing. Look how much effort Alex put into the drawing this time, you can tell he’s something special.

[@Basedarenas]

i actually laughed my ass off when adum said the opening. "they got T" thank god ralph is here to talk about the Oscars and other stuff.

[@Roger_Waters_Broken_Balls]

They Got-ti

[@1997residente]

SLEEPLESS...IN SEATTLE 😂

[@EpicGammingCrew]

@@Roger_Waters_Broken_Ballsthanks to Ralph, I can’t hear John Gottis name wo thinking about pitbull lol

[@rhettmedders6521]

Alex kinda sounds like this guy Jamie from the Jarmedia podcast, a podcast known for their diverse culture and harsh political views. I was introduced to gooning and a small indie animation studio, Dreamworks Animation, through them. You guys should check them out.

[@michaelscott8901]

Ayyy the boys are back! I’ll now be expecting Ralph to show up every 13 episodes thank you

[@Mae_halloween]

WOOOOWWW they managed to get Ralph on the show. What a treat. I wish i could listen to more episodes with him in it.

[@FadeAwayGab]

Adam saying raimi directing and Bruce Campbell starring in water world would fix it like doing that wouldn't fix every single bad movie ever made

[@getmario64]

0:20 Great to see you Ralph, welcome back. Miss the ways that your Sardonicast and you made Alex and Adam as less "Siskel & Ebert's Sardonic At the Movies." Lol

[@ShadowRubberDuck]

Imaginable if Adum started with “Charles stiles mystery diners!”

[@Transmission_Rory]

"Disastrous filmmaking" is a moniker applied to plenty of overbudget films, and Waterworld is one of those stories that's legendary in the industry. So what the hell went wrong with this project? Well, we need to rewind the clock to 1986, when writer Peter Rader came up with a Mad Max knockoff for Roger Corman to produce. When he pitched it, Corman rejected it, saying how $5 million was way too much to make their film off of. Undeterred, Rader went about developing the screenplay, with it landing on The Gordon Company's doorstep in 1989. They teamed up with Universal Pictures for distribution, estimating their budget for $30 million. Kevin Reynolds was hired to direct, seeing as he helmed 1991's Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves to huge success. However, the studio also wanted Kevin Costner to star in the picture, which Reynolds wasn't keen on. See, whilst he and Kevin had a working relationship from Fandango (Where Costner got his start) to Robin Hood, the two were starting to feud, mainly because of artistic differences. But they patched things up for the now $65 million picture that was finally in production. Keep in mind, $30 million had already been spent on the preproduction, without any scenes being shot and only a director, star and multiple rewrites to its name. Production designer Dennis Gassner had picked Kawaihae Harbour in Hawaii as the film's primary shooting location. What he didn't know was why it was called "Kawaihae Harbour". When translated into English, "Kawaihae" means "rough waters" in Hawaiian, which signalled how turbulent the weather conditions were during production. Even Steven Spielberg warned Reynolds and Costner not to film out in the ocean, owing to his own experiences directing Jaws. Sets were wrecked because of the unpredictable weather (Namely hurricanes), the cast and crew suffered sea sickness and jellyfish bites, whilst stuntpeople suffered life-threatening injuries out in the ocean (Costner himself almost died when he got caught in a squall while tied to the mast of his trimaran). Not to mention, they overlooked an important component: no bathrooms. Because of this, people had to be ferried from the middle of the ocean to the shore just to take a dump, delaying the film shoot. Then there were the expenses that occurred, which included: - Costner's private yacht that was bought for him to bring him to "set". - Union penalties for staff food breaks that were always late. - Raising the man-made atoll that sank. - Accommodating the cast and crew for the night, with Costner's costing $1,800 a night. All told, it ballooned the budget to $175 million, with filming taking 166 days in total (To put this into perspective, Top Gun only took 100 days to shoot). During post-production, Universal proved unhappy with Reynold's initial cut, demanding he take out the darker aspects of the story. Costner stepped in with Universal's approval (After he agreed to relinquish his contractual agreement for back-end profits) trying to restore much of what Reynolds was forced to delete, refusing to add the "happy ending" that the studios wanted. Once Reynolds heard of this, he was embarrassed and angry about losing control, finally quitting the project and stating: _"In future, Costner should direct all his own movies. That way, he can work with his favorite director and his favorite actor."_ - Fiasco: A History of Hollywood's Iconic Flops Once it came time for test screenings, the scores weren't good. Audiences didn't like the inclusion of CGI sharks and the slow-paced, meandering storyline. So they went back to edit the picture, shot some additional footage (Weeks before release), and Costner asked for his thinning hairline to be touched up with digital hair. By 1995, the film was released to cinemas. Whilst it did make back its budget, it wasn't the profit maker Universal set out to achieve. Granted, it did do better internationally and eventually made a profit on home video and television sales, but it wasn't enough to shake the "Fishtar" and "Kevin's Gate" nicknames that the film earned. Kevin himself didn't learn anything during his time making Waterworld, seeing as he went on to direct the 3hr snorefest "The Postman", which was also a bomb yet somehow cost less and had the studio backing Kevin's creative decisions all the way (Even refusing to trim down the 3hr run time).

[@mabusestestament]

Yeah Waterworld was actually pretty successful, it just got so ridiculously out of comtrol expensive that it was really hard to make back its budget. But I quite like it, even though on the one hand it is just Mad Max on water, on the other hand it’s also very unique because it only could’ve been made back then; nowadays they would do everything with cgi while the whole ‘point’ of Waterworld is that they actually shot the thing at sea and the water is real and you sure see that on screen.

[@Fortress7]

Interesting. As a commercial fisherman I love the movie for the sets and aesthetic, not for the plot. But also...why didn't they just use a shit bucket? That's what we do on fishing boats. Pour a little water in the bottom, sit on the bucket and do your business, toss it over the side, then rinse the bucket. Any able bodied person who made the whole production stop just to poop on land is an embarrassment to humans as a species.

[@Yixdy]

​@@Fortress7 hmm, would the turds not just float around? Especially with like dozens and dozens of cast and crew taking at least one to a (hopefully) unrealistic maximum of 3 shits in a 12 or whatever hour shoot? Can that much crap be swallowed up by the ocean if you're only filming in the one spot?

[@oobndroobw]

What’s weird about the academy’s problem with the editing category is that the nominees are decided by the editing branch. I could understand why the total voting body would not know how to judge editing, but you’d think other editors would be better at picking nominees.

[@GilCAnjos]

That's gotta be the most handsome guest yet 😊

[@ezgames6925]

I like how Ralph’s head in the intro uses the animation for guests instead of using the old intro animation with all 3 of them.

[@Vivec]

I first started listening to Sardonicast while playing Lies of P, so hearing it mentioned here was quite the synchronicity 🤣

[@dreadshot28]

LETS GO!!! RALPH IS BACK BABYYYY!!!!

[@slimnave4846]

This is what it's all about it! This is what I've been waiting for!!

[@feli6277]

​@@slimnave4846woo?

[@Pagan_Fears]

I saw Alex game Saltburn a 2/5 on Letterboxd. Curious to hear what you all have to say about it. Also talk about Leaving Las Vegas with Nic Cage.

[@JJJackson777]

Ralph did a short review on it if you're curious, I'd imagine adum gave it a 6

[@MM-jc7uv]

I thought it was stylish but boring. It looked great, but the plot was pretty uninteresting to me and towards the end you kinda knew where it was going, also the “shock” scenes were not really that shocking at all. I’d give it a 5/10 personally.

[@Kitth3n]

@@MM-jc7uvyou summed it up perfectly

[@HOTD108_]

They said it was just gonna be an easy burn. WELL IT AIN'T NO EASY BURN, THEY GOT SALT!

[@cheeez9438]

I was surprised but I actually quite enjoyed it. Looked great, performances were good. I enjoyed the first act quite a bit. A lil overdramatized ending scene but it fit his character. Plus the ACTUAL last scene was a very very enjoyable way to end it

[@zeebooboo9663]

This feels like a normal episode of the cast again. This makes me happy

[@traindos]

take a drink everytime adum says “barbie could get it”

[@HOTD108_]

Adum could get it 😏

[@EpicGammingCrew]

She could tho 😫

[@kyledarbyson5050]

Adam repeatedly saying “Barbie can get it!” is very funny.

[@toothbrushfromnisemonogatari]

So glad they finally brought Ralph back to life for a few hours to talk about water world. Hooray!

[@getmario64]

51:31 Adam, Billie part is where Barbie and the creator when she got her tense and closing eye moment where flashes of kids are playing throughout the soft scene and might remember that at the end of the movie.

[@persolus689]

had a stroke trying to read this

[@lilmovieperp3599]

Past Lives being nominated BP is such a victory for me. Fantastic film. Zone of Interest was incredible as well. That ending is haunting as fff. Very good year based on those two masterpieces alone.

[@RobZoid1]

Thar Ralph seems like a good guy, he should create his own youtube channel.

[@DeadCanuck]

He should make movies

[@getmario64]

12:00 I would say that only biggest winner for the "Best Picture" will be Oppenheimer so it might win for the Oscars. My best film I actually the most is "Poor Things" a great Lathimo's weird and art crafted Frankenstein movie, The Holdovers is a great holiday small group movie, Past Lives is an emotion coming-to-an age love story with separate connections, and Oppenheimer is Nolan's longest biopic story of a man who made atomic bombs and deepen for his back story of his inventions and lives of working other people. Well, depends for what it is.

[@MM-jc7uv]

My pick would be Oppenheimer personally, watching it in IMAX was pretty special although haven’t seen Poor Things yet which I’m very excited for

[@LenLe92]

The boys are back in town!

[@getmario64]

26:56 My big diva queen Da Vine will be the winner for sure. She nailed it good in Holdovers compare to Giamatti of course.

[@getmario64]

Lee Curtis robbed the supporting role of all time. Sorry

[@trevorkobe]

This feels like a much older episode, I love it.

[@thebeingdestroyerofworlds8690]

Crazy that they invited the zodiac killer onto the podcast

[@tofutoph]

Omg Ralph! And finally they are reviewing a Brian de Palma film. Always found his style of filming fascinating.

[@filmtalking]

Holy shit it’s kzbin.info

[@magicjuulbus7140]

Hey, Ralph finally fixed his mic!

[@Kobiedog31]

43:30 the teacher’s Longe is amazing! I caught it at my local Arthouse theatre and it was really well done.

[@just2good]

RALPH IS BACK YESSSSS Also rmbrown name drop, he should totally be a guest

[@yasielromero8236]

Adam saying "I just want to see Twitter if Barbie wins nothing" Gave me real "some men just want to see the world burn" vibes 😂😂

[@obscure.reference]

the return of the king

[@bebo2629]

51:34 "What was I made for" plays in the scene with the old lady at the bus stop and when Barbie decides to be in the real world. The lyrics only kick in the second time.

[@warden2027]

Ralph's mic is as good as always.

[@VTiDelSol]

Who doesn't remember the great Dennis Hooper?

[@res1dentgearsol1d]

When I was in film school we had a class where every week a student would Rec a different film and we would discuss it. Every week the movies were always classics like Citizen Kane and M, but when it got to me I decided to pick Transformers Dark of the Moon to see what we could all learn from a bad movie. My professor vetoed it and refused to play it. Regardless of my argument. Instead we watched Taxi Driver.

[@pinkimietz3243]

That sucks. Not a good professor tbh.

[@tristanthecreator1552]

Damn you should’ve picked Revenge of the Fallen I feel like that one’s even worse and with the whole history of the writers strike and Michael bay just filming random scenes and getting a script later is just insane but I’m sure your professor would still say no

[@mabusestestament]

You should’ve picked Hellbound: Hellraiser II or Martyrs.

[@hookedonphoenix3112]

If Ralph came on and had his mic all fucked up, didn’t watch the movies, and just rambled and laughed at his own jokes cus he’s high off his face like the old days, that would’ve been truly legendary.

[@DapperDaPonte]

I love Blue Velvet and Hoosiers and all the films of Dennis Hooper 😆

[@petewadesays12]

Especially Hooper Mario Bros

[@Farfaramir]

I did smiled when I noticed who was the guest.

[@branalog]

How does Ralph not know that the Oscars is aired on network television for free in America? If you have a television antenna in America, you can watch the Oscars.

[@Slop_Dogg]

he’s sleepy

[@michaelangelo2192]

Why is Adum so insistent on pointing out the number of seats in the Oscars hall when discussing why the Oscars only have 5 slots each for nominations?! The reason it is 5 and not an endless number of slots is to try and make a nomination feel like something. If the Oscars had 20 best director nominations, nobody would care if they get nominated. Exclusivity is part of the prestige.

[@mabusestestament]

Yeah it should remain 5. I already think it is dumb there are 10 best movie noms because it devalues the whole thing. You can easily scrap half of these for not having a real chance anyway against some of the actual front runners. If they insist on having more than 5 best picture noms then fine make it 7, but 10 is just dumb.

[@michaelangelo2192]

@@mabusestestament Yh I don't personally mind 10 nominations just for best picture (I think it brings needed attention to films like The Zone of Interest and Anatomy of a Fall for example that perhaps may not have made it in a year of 5). But I agree with the sentiment on the whole; it would be better for them to change it to 5 if the alternative was changing it to say, 15. 5 for all of the rest of the categories is the correct way to go.

[@Wraiven22]

Society of the Snow should have gotten far more nominations. If it was in English it 100% would have been. Watched it last night and absolutely loved it. Fantastic acting, sound, set design, editing, directing… ridiculous that it only got an international feature nomination.

[@docvince1491]

It was also nominated for makeup. I hope it wins that if Poor Things doesn’t

[@jakemitchell9853]

WE GOT T. I fucking love that the H-Bomb plagiarist-detective movement came up and Ralph was just like, "The what, now?" :D

[@ajzeg01]

Actually, if Night of the Living Dead didn’t accidentally fall into the public domain the way it did, you actually might have to pay George Romero to use zombies in a movie.

[@getmario64]

17:11 same Adam's Oscar bait near to Maestro?

[@evoanime8021]

My boy is back

[@thebigo2467]

I feel like Godzilla Minus One needs to win best visual effects because of what it did with such a relatively small budget. It put Hollywood to shame. My favourite film of the year!

[@Nathanatos22]

1:59:33 I wish more people would do this-just wait at least a few months to release your “best of year” lists. There are always several films from a given year I have no way of seeing anywhere near their “official” release date.

[@NiteOfTheWorld]

Why does Ralph keep calling him Dennis Hooper?

[@MondayMorningLiveZ]

Ralph is back! Love the convos between you three.

[@nickl1483]

Adum, Digimon actually came out a couple years earlier than Pokémon in the Japanese market, technically Pokemon is already a copy.

[@killaspongebob666]

Woah, ralphthemoviemaker, IHE, and YMS? What is this a crossover episode??

[@JosetheDopeLPs]

Hey, aren't you the Horse from horsin' around?

[@JidionisthebiggestMenace]

Great video bro

[@sergioribeiro7725]

Do you remember WatchMojo’s Top 10 Mass Shootings? That’s an actual video they made.

[@mabusestestament]

Who was #1?

[@aas11563]

Let’s goooo Ralph

[@GOLDFISH817]

I can’t believe we’ve never had Ralph as a guest before

[@DBCooper01]

Don't let Ralph escape the basement ever again

[@GavinAeilts]

I'm glad Ralph is back. I was always hoping that he would come back for the occasional guest appearance.

[@thefilmseeker]

"Oh they usually give 'best' cinematography or sound to the movie with the most of it!" *complain that some of the editing nominations aren't noticeable enough...*

[@thecinematicmind]

The Sardons are all back again.

[@puketinmoarliek994]

The sardonian princes

[@Creamouz]

What a great guest, you guys seem to have good synergy

[@crustboi93]

This new Ralph guy... I like him

[@getmario64]

7:30 most people in Netflix enjoy watching bad movies and believe me, they've put it to reach high most viewed movies of Top 10

[@S1nwar]

THERE IS THAT one channel that has waterworld content without interruption for the last 5 years and nothing else

[@inline885]

I’m able to watch the Oscars on ABC with just my digital antenna.

[@MasonHamilton]

Missed u Ralph ❤️

[@andrewbaillargeon1459]

After Ralph being gone for 5 months, I'm now realizing how integral he is to the podcast. How I took him for granted. Come back Ralph!!

[@danielbarrero2815]

Blow Out is a stone-cold masterpiece! Hell yeah, great rec

[@twistedtxb]

So happy to get all three reunited for my favorite episode of each year.❤

[@raddad1284]

We miss you Ralph pods still good still listen every week but extra excited for this

[@DankDoodles]

Love this Ralph guy

[@ianbell8642]

He is Risen

[@rob9943]

"why can't you enjoy my criticism" that was a delightfully quick retort

[@chdd99]

Ralph torpedoed this so fast

[@getmario64]

51:00 Billie might win since her last award winning original song for “No Time to Die” and now she might win again. Dua Lipa’s Dance Night song was a banger song ever and should nominated too or Karol G song as well. The Barbie Soundtrack dominated the songs so hardcore and replayed ever in 2023.

[@WarblerObserver]

I can’t hear “Waterworld” without thinking about the AVGN’s Virtual Boy review, mostly because of this quote: “Waterworld is the only movie-based game on Virtual Boy, and doesn't that seem like a match made in heaven? It's a perfect analogy. An over-budget, over-hyped movie turned into a game on a gimmicky, over-priced anal atom bomb of a console exploding with diarrhea!”

[@adamlouie1503]

When Adum said it was a surprise host I thought it would either be Ralph or an RLM member. And since rlm fucking HATES everyone, the logical conclusion was Ralph

[@Tankmin]

alex using an american accent at 1:03:22 is so blursed lol

[@getmario64]

29:20 look Spider-Verse or Herron will be biggest either winning the Animated Feature, so I pick most is Spider-Verse. Elemental should not deserve getting a nom and I watched it at YMS Watch-Along and Adam was really depressed, angry, and slam the movie of giving so bad and I laughed so fun of seeing Adam react for seeing this movie. Check it out and hilarious review ever. And....what Alex you don't love "Robot Dreams?" It's cute and I wanted to see this movie so much and Nimona is pretty fun punk science fantasy joint.

[@Twiiqz01]

oh man hearing ralphs voice again is great

[@luiginastro8831]

Henry Cavill looks very happy to be meeting world renowned movie critic and closeted homosexual, Ralph Sepe!

[@jennahveer]

MY LIL GUY RETURNS

[@CT.1982]

"Bring out the Ralph" "But the Ralph is sleeping" "Well then you'll just have to wake him up"

[@Kianleahy]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO WE SO BACK

[@WillHammer93]

It's a shame they didn't mention the one memorable and funny scene from Waterworld: "Oh thank God!"

[@getmario64]

47:24 funny enough that Schafrillas got pissed off of having this wrong choices in original score instead of Spider-Verse score or Herron score in that matter and even for that, why the hell picking John Williams for Dial of Destiny (even Razzies picked Worst Screenplay and Worst Sequel Category) in this category? It’s such shame and the reason why is because they want him after he done finished his score and getting retired for doing Spielberg film scores, Star Wars, and etc. Hell Renzor and Atticus should’ve have score for Ninja Turtles you Oscar old boomers!!! FU

[@dumat100]

I hope it beomes a longatanding tradition that whenever Ralph comes back whatever he recommends is terrible.

[@a55a551nxki114x]

Hi Ralph. Hope your step-back is really giving you what you need.

[@EzraWoodIsCool]

Personally don’t think Holdovers is Oscar baity at all, I’m honestly surprised it got nominated for so many awards. My favourite of 2023 but I totally thought it was just going to fly under everyone’s radar.

[@marshallh7785]

"feat. @ralphthemoviemaker" = an adrenaline shot to the heart. I of course enjoy the episodes with just Alex and Adum, but I was pretty curious who the guest was gonna be when Adum mentioned it last episode