Saru Serves Georgiou - Star Trek Discovery 3x09

Saru Serves Georgiou - Star Trek Discovery 3x09

[@LGranthamsHeir]

Interesting how Georgiou uses her knowledge of Saru and the Kelpiens from the Prime-verse to get Mirror Saru to trust and inform her about Mirror Burnham's plot against her.

[@AurianWarriorOfDarkness]

True and she is sincere about it because the old her would have killed him

[@MahsaKaerra]

Interesting thing is that from season 1 we know the Lorca/Burnham plot fails anyway. It could well be that Georgiou knowing of the plot in this scenario and her attempting to stop it is what helps bring it closer to being successful.

[@rathernot6587]

​@@MahsaKaerra I think she is more interested in preventing Michael from joining the revolt then actually stopping it. Considering she has already stopped the revolt before and probably won't have any issues stopping it again.

[@donpula6349]

@@rathernot6587 Not just the revolt. But preventing the Terran Empire to fall in the next few centuries. But the outcome is inevitable, the collapse of their dark empire remains the same.

[@randomrazr]

@@donpula6349 hence DS9 terran empire

[@markjamesbmouth]

Michelle Yeoh plays the emperor really well. The character has grown to a blood thirsty leader to someone who is developing deeper tolerance

[@boredlawyer3382]

A strong leader is not necessarily someone who kills at a drop of the hat. If someone is valuable, you let them live so you can extract the value from them. That is what is going on here.

[@johnfic4751]

She's a great actress. I'm glad she agreed to play the role. Both versions, Starfleet captain and empress.

[@ktammi]

Her character is maybe the only one in STD who isn't annoying.

[@thejamesasher]

less tolerance, more understanding

[@pavelsarneki354]

Tell that to the Talosians and their stupid singing flowers!😮😅🤓😎🖖🏻

[@carlos_mitosis]

I like that Georgiou is now too Terran to be in the prime universe and too human to be in the Terran universe...

[@darthkarr]

Shes still in the prime universe now, just in a time closer to when the prime and mirror are still connect able. Probaly just after the dominion war.

[@carlos_mitosis]

@@darthkarr I know

[@sampletcher9700]

S

[@bclmqd]

Perfectly put.

[@BeastBoom24]

@@darthkarr I assumed she would be sent back close to when (if not exactly) she left. At the very least maybe a couple years after Discovery’s jump to the future.

[@altdoom5205]

We love Emperor Georgiou! Her scenes were pure gold.

[@mikeat2637]

She is just so regal.......and terrifying at the same time. Ya gotta love her.

[@steeltimberwolf]

Seems like a costume designer is a fan of Warhammer 40k

[@Montyandrew45]

I mean, the God Emperor could want an Empress

[@erwin669]

Meanwhile at GW HQ: "I sense a disturbance in the Warp as if someone is infringing on our copyright that we infringed on first...RELEASE THE LAWYERS!!"

[@Montyandrew45]

@@erwin669 lawyers? Release the commissars

[@erwin669]

@@Montyandrew45 look up Flashgitz “Inside GW”

[@patrickspaceman305]

...at least she doesn't need Text To Speech (TTS) lol.

[@BlastoiseBaller]

People rag on Discovery but man, this scene rules. There's so much great stuff in this show, especially involving Saru

[@highlander723]

Discovery could have been so great if they had followed the traditional form of Star Trek. Don't make it all about one person. Make it about the crew about the ship. Michelle yeow Is a phenomenal actress They were still lucky to have her. And then afterwards they had the actor that played Christopher Pike They had a fantastic spock They had they had it all They had everything they needed to make a kick-ass series about a top secret federation project pre-kirk era. It's shame it went down the way it did but I will admit there are some scenes that actually were good most of them you may notice didn't have Michael Burnham in them.

[@dibaterman]

I think it's just a different direction, Disco went for ST movie fans but abandoned Trek, TNG, Voyager, DS9, TOS fans. Sort of. You can find vague elements of DS9 which is already a departure from Trek in a lot of Disco, DS9 was a near plagiarism of Babylon 5 more than it was a Trek. Critically I believe Disco did well, the show lasted I think as long as TNG, and as a Sci-fi it isn't bad, but this is more like something inspired by Star Trek rather than a continuation. Finally Mary Sue (Jesus) like characters in Trek exist, in the form of Wesley Crusher and Ben Sisko both were disliked for that characteristic and in response they were given failures. Fortunately Sisko had his stumbles across quite a few more episodes and his character broadened by him making tough decisions and facing consequences for them. But he was still a Mary Sue. Crusher on the other hand is still a character people meme about with "Shut up Wesley" stuff. So the hate towards Michael Burhnam is consistent.

[@AnnoyingCritic-is7rp]

You think Star Trek should be a Game of Thrones? Does the IP mean nothing to you? Is there nothing left?

[@champbaka]

Opinions on why Georgiou saved Saru? I know it’s for intel, but I somehow think she can’t stand to see him get killed after her time with him in the prime universe.

[@4thofEleven]

It's harder to eat people when you know their name.

[@cyka7705]

perhaps her life with prime universe ppl make her a little bit softer

[@AngriestAmerican]

@@4thofEleven Nah,, you get to laugh at them and call them names after you shit them out,,,,

[@boredlawyer3382]

@@4thofEleven I don't watch the show. They actually EAT their slaves? Gross.

[@rathernot6587]

@@boredlawyer3382 Yeah. They use them as slaves up to the point when they annoy them or they start Vahar ' ai.

[@Dibs1978]

Michelle is the most under appreciated actor. I will watch anything she is in. I cannot think of a more well rounded, versatile actor out there.

[@morbius109]

Michelle Yeoh owned the role of Emperor Philippa Georgiou. That pivot at 2:43 alone was pure dominance, and that stride as she walked out at 2:58 dared anyone to challenge her.

[@edwinpoon]

This is such an awesome scene. Someone commented ST:D is bad; but many ppl also said ST:DS9 was bad, and they were all wrong as DS9 is still the best series ever.

[@peter-xw1mu]

One good scene doesn't make a good show. STD is shit. And don't compare it to DS9 pls. What an insult.

[@nel1962]

@@peter-xw1mu in all honesty DS9 didn’t truly become great until its mid second-third season. Give this some space and see if it comes along as well. I think this third season is pretty strong.

[@maxlopolo2415]

@@nel1962 No, it won't. Because the "writers" are a bunch of absolute hacks that value only ONE aspect of the whole dish, and the aspect they like is shortsighted, stupid, and just plain wrong. Their message is crap. Their ideas are crap. And since a character/story can only be as good as their writers, the show is unsurprisingly crap. And it will be until they fire all those SJW sub-human rejects and start hiring PEOPLE.

[@chriscumbag]

Well, DS9 was "the best" during the era where Superman was dead and Venom had his own ongoing series, so it's more about the brainworms people had chewing on their brains at the time, especially when it comes to DS9.

[@jos.1839]

STD is bad. Terran arc was great but thats all. That doesnt change the fact that STD is bad....

[@aguyhere7945]

Gold usually looks pretty gaudy but Michelle Yeoh pulls it off really well.

[@nerysghemor5781]

It looks like Emperor of Warhammer 40K, if you want to see where this outfit VERY likely came from. There it was (intentionally) gaudy but here it seems to work.

[@gateauxq4604]

No matter how fucked ip the mirror universe is I find this scene very sweet in its own way. She really appreciated prime Saru. 💜

[@lisamurphy7028]

In any people no matter how vile there is room for exceptions. Primarily the Miles O'Brien of Terak Nor. And in any person no matter how dark or how dead to the world there is room for improvement. Like Emperor Georgiou. It just takes longer than 2 minutes and 20 seconds. ... The time our Kirk had to change Mirror Spock's mind.

[@mikeat2637]

Michelle Yeoh has had a long and successful career, but I feel that her role as Emperor Philippa Georgiou is the crowning point. It narrowly edges out her character in the Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon movies. She really makes you believe she is the Emperor.

[@commenter4898]

After the crowing here she proceeds to become a god in EEAAO.

[@pendarpr]

She deserves her own TV series

[@obliviouz]

Jesus Christ, in Michelle Yeoh's incredibly accomplished career, you think her part in ST:D is the peak? I seriously hope you're 12. That would be the only acceptable excuse.

[@Claudanne2]

Like most Trek series, Discovery had a rocky start. The show really started to shine in late season 2 and season 3 and beyond.

[@Ezullof]

not beyond though

[@cameronpearce5943]

The Empress of Mankind. Very nice!

[@filippofittipaldi8050]

Burnham says to Georgiou that she regretted killing her Michael. This appears to be true. She asks Saru, in effect, why has my daughter stopped loving me. (Most parents would want an answer to this question.) After Saru's answer she decided to show Michael she's strong in real way. And perhaps win back Michael's love.

[@Creasy5678]

She hopes, at least. The Burnham of the Terran Empire is every bit as brilliant and capable and driven as the Burnham we know. But... She lacks any sort of moral compass and see's the world only in terms of strength and power. Georgiou did that, then she got to see who Burnham could have been if raised and taught very differently. She wants to get back the daughter she loved and make her more like the Burnham she's come to know and love as another daughter, but that will NEVER happen. She likely knows this, but it won't stop her from trying. Which means Georgiou will likely end up having to do either something incredible or terrible to get through to her...

[@jumper7224]

@@Creasy5678 I'm just sad thinking about it. She loves her deeply. I guess this Michael is gonna have to die since it's a mirror universe right? Anothere lives means this one won't.

[@Creasy5678]

@@jumper7224 Sort of, when we first meet Empress Georgiou her Burnham is already dead, this is an AU so anything is possible...

[@ΣκοτώνωΧαρά]

Terran culture is messed up.

[@hilnnerfarias913]

@@jumper7224 It was just a "simulation" to see if Giorgiou could be saved, she was dying because her molecules where not "vibing" with Time travel and Dimensions Travel together. A Time being sent her to a universe and time where she could be stable, not Terran and not Prime, somewhere else. I fell that a new series might be in play here.

[@captainstyles1]

Knowledge is power.

[@e4unow421]

I'm quite sure Saru quoted mirror Pike here.

[@joermnyc]

She’ll push Mirror Burnham into becoming Emperor, fake her own death, and cross back into the prime universe in the 23rd century (avoiding the whole falling apart thing from being in the 31st century.) That’s how we get a Section 31 show.

[@trainsurgeon]

I like your theory.

[@joeywall4657]

Absolutely fucking ruthless. 🤩

[@louiskeep1832]

Watching Michelle Yeoh carrying this show was awesome......

[@deathstrike]

Emperor Gerogiou is exactly what the Terran Empire needs if it is to survive. In the prime Terran Empire Universe, Emperor Spock began to see the wisdom of allowing limited rights among its member worlds. Allowing certain "influential" worlds to sit in judgement and rule in the Imperial Senate on Terra. Allowing non human member worlds to serve and advance aboard Imperial Starships, and allowing a limited amount of self governance of member worlds as long as they provided the proper personnel and "tithing" or taxation to the Terran Empire. In fact "progress" was far earlier even in Archer's time. For Commander T'Pol's help to the future Empress Hoshi Sato raised Vulcan to "Equal Status" from a vassal world, to one of the premier worlds of the Empire. T'Pol was made Regis of Vulcan. And Terrans and Vulcans plundered the galaxy together until the great betrayal imposed by future Emperor Spock. The only alien to ever take control of the Terran Empire until it's fall at the hands of the Klingon/Bajoran/Cardassian Alliance. Due to the positive, but premature reforms made by Spock, they left the Terran Empire weak and unable to defend itself against the Alliance. That was until Smiley O'Brian crossed over to the prime universe and acquired plans for the USS Defiant. After that, the former Terran Empire became the Terran Republic and had a smaller more manageable governance and did somewhat get along with its former enemies.

[@lisamurphy7028]

Emperor Georgiou learned more about/from Saru and Kelpians than she did about any other race or individual. Well Michael but she already knew her Michael pretty well so she had a leg up. I don't think anyone ever surprised her as regularly as Our Saru did. And now she gets to repeatedly surprise the hell out of, as far as home turf goes Her Saru with what she learned on our side.

[@nerysghemor5781]

Is it me or is there a subtle Warhammer 40K gag with calling her Emperor and giving her that gold outfit with a halo?

[@alfonszitterbacke318]

Star Trek 40K - In the grin dark mirror-universe, there is nothing but war.

[@adreamingwolf]

Strong 40k vibes

[@trence5]

I really wonder if her costume designer got some cues from Warhammer 40k's God Emperor design....

[@Sim2500]

excellent acting

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

"Georgiou serves Saru"

[@warrenreid6109]

This IS mirror universe.

[@mrfclarke]

No capes.

[@lordwind9745]

I honestly don’t understand how Michelle was able to balance that huge thing on her head, it doesn’t even seem to have straps.

[@LinkTardis]

I believe it was plastic

[@5thHouse]

totally misread that title as Saru saves georgiou

[@lamario295]

Couldn't she have made an actual fiery halo crown

[@seese9456]

I can't wait for the Section 31 movie

[@warrenschrader7481]

The Emperor protects

[@victorjackson5692]

Star Wars missed out, she would have maid an excellent wife to the emperor.

[@rafaelguerra3909]

Emperor of all of us

[@nargalda773]

is that star trek 40k ??

[@aleximalmgren5301]

The only thing really wrong with the Terran Empire we never see an Imperial family . Save that book dearies with the Hoshi Clones .

[@CarlosSuperCute]

When the daughter, Michael, thinks that emperor Georgiou means that the daughter thinks she is stronger than her 'weak' mother.

[@brianlindee1285]

It's a while since they used holo communications

[@EsteffersonTorres]

Is it just me or is there some Warhammer 40K aestherics going on the mirror universe?

[@AnnoyingCritic-is7rp]

The cinematic effects make this look absurd.

[@bugmilk9182]

Terran episodes were the only good thing that came out of Discovery

[@chinita6720]

She's so BASASS!!!

[@ultramaximusreviews]

Why does she look like The Sun from Masked Singer? LOL

[@Deodoto]

Didn’t knife Michelle Yeo was in Star Trek Discovery. I’ll watch it just for her. Great actor.

[@jeanpagette5019]

Feels somewhat warhammer 40k ish but she is a bootleg emperor compared to the one true emperor

[@Starmag99]

They have similar core ideas. Both are fascist Roman-esque space empires. Warhammer 40k's Imperium of Man is an absurd parody of fascism, while Star Trek's Terran Empire is a critique of it. Similarities are unavoidable and I wouldn't be surprised if one inspired the other on some level. Though I should say, the original Mirror, Mirror episode of TOS came out 2 decades before 40k, so Trek inspiring Warhammer is more likely.

[@garypeterson5960]

KILLER WOMAN GOING TO WORK NOW

[@jos.1839]

Only great thing that Destiny brought us was Phillipa Geourgiou. Now I know why they dumped her. Cus they needed Burnham to be center of this pathetic show. So they get rid of her.....

[@PopulistDavid05401]

Spheretext

[@NapoleChan]

oh god now they are fucking with my warhammer also. is nothing sacred

[@Starmag99]

The Terran Empire episode of TOS predates 40k by 20 years lol

[@phantomwraith1984]

Really hate discovery's depiction of the mirror universe, paiting them like all psychopaths. Theyre just a xenophobic empire, not psychos and bad acting. Michelle was the only good part, the rest were unbearable to watch

[@999benhonda]

I guess 800 years into trek's future didn't give the writers enough possible story lines??? They had to revisit the mirror universe half way into S3? Smells of lazy writing to me.

[@mrspidey80]

They had to find a way to get Georgiou back to the original Discovery era to star in her new Section 31 show.

[@arav13]

Well, look at all that great sets, designs, costumes, etc., I will always regret that all that work is put onto this series. With just a bit more quality writing, it can be the best trek series ever made but due to its bad dialogues, poor writing and illogical nonsense it is not even good.

[@patrickradcliffe3837]

God can they please stop ripping off other franchises. Its like the staff of STD are incapable of having an original idea.

[@wj3186]

Oh, shuddup.

[@paopao.]

You can always stop watching it if you hate it that much. So others like me can enjoy it without your negativity.

[@patrickradcliffe3837]

@@paopao. negativity more like a observation. I watched it hoping to that they had improved.

[@wj3186]

@@patrickradcliffe3837 Interesting. So I take it you will watch more, complain about it and leave us to wonder why YOU haven't improved. Do us a favor, stop being a neanderthal, okay.

[@davidreynolds8865]

@@paopao. yes the sooner the people stop watching this car crash in to a burning trash fire, the sooner it gets cancelled and the sooner we can get real trek back.

[@howmaneverton9630]

how the same channel can produce lighning-in-a-bottle like "lower decks" and this crap? its bejond me...

[@xxxmartinx]

My most favorite scene of all