Ω Sativ 7.1.5 Subtlety Rogue PvP Guide - Highest Damage Build - How to Play Subtlety

[@Veechii]

I really like this sort of guide when it comes to how to play a class, it really feels like the creator is knowledgeable and skilled. Also it's really entertaining, GJ!

[@SusejFTW]

Thank you. I put a lot of work into these. I feel it is important to take pride in your work and not half ass it. Thank you for appreciating.

[@Hogmanlolz]

Awesome guide!

[@SusejFTW]

Hey thanks there Cartoonz. Whens the next Rogue Mage slaughter going live?

[@RadmanOZ]

Hogmanlolz yes more games with you boys together!!

[@SusejFTW]

Toonz is the man.

[@SusejFTW]

I feel i one up myself every video. What do you guys think? Like the video to tell me i did great! Here is More Footage of this Build: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZqZiJqZbamEja8

[@LestarK008]

Like video,like you.Keep up the good work!

[@aneksis1303]

I missed you, Sativ! I am very gratefull , that you made this video! As usual it have a highest quality, thank you!

[@SusejFTW]

=)

[@Nulledx]

Really awesome guide man, very clear and the construction overall is 10/10 !

[@luizhpaolucci]

always a gentleman. sub is best and funiest spec!

[@chriswilson2852]

so happy when you search for pve a pvp video pops up. hello.

[@jord4n193]

Always great and informative videos dude. Sativ for lead Rogue developer 2017.

[@SusejFTW]

I wouldn't want the duty. Id rather some one like Nahj, Pika, Nessper do it.

[@renanviana87]

Sweet guide man, always entertaining to see your videos. Keep up the good work, as always. :)

[@SusejFTW]

thanks yo.

[@jord4n193]

Always great videos, Sativ. Thank you for your continued contribution to the WoW community!

[@felipefulini90]

Awesome Guide, Sativ!

[@SusejFTW]

Thank you!

[@colinleung6150]

Great video bro, well put together and informative.

[@SusejFTW]

I do what I can my man. Glad you enjoyed.

[@lars4422]

What a nice and relaxing guide, gj

[@alexdakid00]

This guy gets my sub just for being so polite.

[@SusejFTW]

I feel its very important to be respectful, polite and positive in my videos. Provides a nice learning environment.

[@christiancibrian3461]

wasn't going to game tonight but guess just 1 bg. Thanks for the inspiration!

[@SusejFTW]

I hope you had fun!

[@Profe-R]

Nice work here man! Greetings from Colombia!

[@SusejFTW]

Hello friend! Canada says

[@Valcurion]

good video, amount of low xp content creators giving people wrong information on how to play a class is too high atm. Glad theres still some experienced WoW KZbinrs out there. Keep it up!

[@SusejFTW]

I'm only a 2600 rated player. By no means one of the best. But I feel its important to guide people in the RIGHT direction. So i don't make content till I'm reasonable rating that season (2200+)

[@Aersix105]

Dude please comeback. Favorite rogue don’t let us down.

[@stanleysteamer1972]

great video Sativ!

[@SusejFTW]

Thanks baby. Hope you're doing well my man

[@Houldey]

Nice video - I've played sub all expansion and love it, even with dance being so different to what we used to have, Taking Phantom Assassin for those longer dances is really nice though. Sub is king for BGs - probably out of every class/spec imo - you can be everywhere with strong cooldowns more or less all the time or simply churn out stuns all day to ruin peoples day :D.

[@SusejFTW]

Sub is absolutely a blast in BGs. I agree.

[@PajaDeath]

awesome vídeo man!

[@SusejFTW]

=3

[@FrantaWeiss]

How is called that piano/music on the end?:) 5:33 it starts

[@praleshlokamp7851]

GJ bro.

[@SusejFTW]

Thanks buddy!

[@ChicagoBears2121]

This is awesome. Thanks!

[@mborc5]

so nice, cheers dude!

[@SusejFTW]

ty

[@Drinson]

You rock! Thank you for this!

[@khamaliperry1370]

What's the piano music at 5:33? Really nice sound.

[@xGrrtt]

Great vid! Gonna try this out later today

[@SusejFTW]

I hope you had fun.

[@navarredr]

Great guide. Thanks!

[@FrantaWeiss]

Top video!

[@Gromst3rr]

thank you for a great video, sir!

[@SusejFTW]

My pleasure.

[@Vistresian1941]

Don't know why it never occurred to be that Thief's Bargain pairs perfectly with Reinforced Armor; and here I am using Sparring and Phantom Assassin. I think I'll give it a shot later today and see how it works out. Having a small damage increase is exactly what I need, so hopefully it works well!

[@SusejFTW]

I hope so too man. I always loved playing a fragile high damage character in any game, but some times being too fragile doesn't pay off. Tipping the health up a bit to offset the decrease sort of works out. Thanks for enjoying my video pal, have a great evening.

[@Vrinder94]

Dank guide brah. When do you use Kidney shot though?

[@shaun2312]

Very good!

[@SusejFTW]

ty

[@minstrelca]

Hey Sativ great guide. At 4:15 you said you used a nightblade instead of a rupture? Did you mean eviscerate? Just wanted to be clear lol.

[@SN-oq3el]

thanks sativ, good guide. 😆

[@SusejFTW]

My pleasure.

[@Chris-ew8ms]

Hey sativ good video! can you pls tell what song u used from 2:48 to 5:13 the opener part

[@JeanMichReggaeMan]

Really good stuff! I play Afflilock in arenas/RBGs and rogues are my biggest nightmare. I die literally in a few secs without being able to do anything. What pieces of advice would you give me to stand a chance against them ?

[@HampTamp]

what's the piano song at 5:34?

[@yukinaaubeclat2584]

Hello Sativ ! Thank for your guide ! But tell me, what is your addon for see the trinket of ennemy ? And use the last honor talent is not hard in 2v2 ? When we play against a War, DK with 3.4k HP and we have 2k2 (because we use this talent), we can be OS with burst no ? :x Sorry for my bad English... !

[@SusejFTW]

Sarena. I think mutilate is better in 2s if with healer

[@yukinaaubeclat2584]

Sur but Mutilate isn't realy fun... :/. What is your addon for see if the medaillon is up or not ?

[@SusejFTW]

Sarena is the addon.

[@yukinaaubeclat2584]

Oh ! Sorry, Thank ! :)

[@o_arteista]

Dude, have you already tested in PVP the "anticipation" talent for the Rogue sub? I'm testing and I'm enjoying it a lot. It greatly increased the damage in my game-play. I would like your opinion.

[@SusejFTW]

Try it out with MFD for fun. Open with stuns /shadow strike till at 10 CP then 3x Eviscerate. Kind of funny.

[@navarredr]

Still my favorite rogue guide. How about and updated guide for BfA?

[@SusejFTW]

Maybe. I work full time now as a carpenter. Might cook up some fun stuff for BFA this fall / winter when the season is over.

[@navarredr]

Sounds good. RL comes first. Thanks!

[@bmcash09]

Do you feel like Sub or Assass is performing better on Arenas currently? I'm getting back into wow and want to play a lot of Arena and BGs. Thanks dude. Awesome video!

[@SusejFTW]

In 3v3 I think mutilate is stronger in terms of just straight power. Does lots of damage, CDs are short & has wound poison effect.

[@bmcash09]

SusejFTW thanks for the reply man. Been a fan for a while! Keep up the hard work.

[@Chelsea_Aladdin]

good job !!!! can you do Assassination Rogue PVP Guide ??

[@jovanudovicki5895]

HI nice vid I just have question is Thief's Bargain is fixed and actually increase 20% dmg and is working with shadow dance ??

[@SusejFTW]

Yes. Tested it multiple times with details tracking my damage. Shadow strike was ALWAYS 20% more. Same w/ Eviscerate on same armor target.

[@StoicSunderer]

Do u think in 7.1.5 and 7.2 to come I have to play mutilate in competitive pvp to succeed or can i stick to my bread and butter sub?

[@DeenBOY03]

Does thiefs bargain even work though? I've seen numerous videos where they try to see if/how it is working and there's no change in the numbers no matter how they approach it but those were from 7.1

[@SusejFTW]

I have no idea what those people are doing wrong. But it absolutely feels like I'm gaining 20% damage.

[@Thomasandtwoofus]

I'm watching you from France ! Thx and good job ! In 1vs1, What is your favorite: Assa or Sub ? Merci beaucoup et vive les voleurs !

[@SusejFTW]

I really enjoy this build for 1v1. But Assassination is more 'aggressive' =) Greetings from Canada! Much love!

[@KubaZabocki]

is it possible to get some higher rates with that build or simply go assa?

[@SusejFTW]

Played this to 2200 in 3s

[@Nickolov707]

it's fun to jump off a cliff or get pushed off of Lumbermill in Arathi and don't take any fall damage

[@SusejFTW]

I would have to agree. I love jumping off into Mines and zooming my camera in and doing a 360 with it while going "shhhhhhhhfffffffffff' then 'Doooosh' then i land. #simplethings

[@adamn2993]

What addon gives you that action bar?

[@SusejFTW]

PowerInterface

[@adamn2993]

dank ya

[@kurtusswebb2355]

What addons do you use?

[@SusejFTW]

TellMeWhen SArena PowerInterface TrufiGCD some others. Video soon on that .=z

[@alexanderstakhanov7749]

how's sub in patch 7.2?

[@Verrulz]

Sin got a -5% agility nerf for pvp, do you still think it is "better" overall?

[@SusejFTW]

gained 4% on many other things. Does lower damage a pinch yes. Still extremely strong.

[@Verrulz]

Oh, i completely forgot about that, thanks for the quick reply!

[@RegenerativeMojave]

You're a good teacher. Please become a teacher.

[@SusejFTW]

Thank you, when i was younger I had that dream actually.

[@BillThePillCosby]

is subt just obsolete for pve cuz i cant find any pve guides for it

[@SusejFTW]

I think people mostly just run sims and figure out rotations through other means. I don't see much PvE Content on KZbin atm.

[@gamiastisgitonias]

why is eviscerate only 70% effective in pvp?do other classes have this thing also?

[@SusejFTW]

Some do.

[@Gregariouspvp]

Great video! You earned my like and sub with eaze! :D (Y)

[@SusejFTW]

Yippie! Don't forget to click ze bell

[@Gregariouspvp]

Of course man! I'm one step ahead of ya! :D What I want to know is why I haven't found you sooner :O

[@Scrubbel]

Yo, that piano music is fire! Name?

[@Yndio_]

This may sound dumb. But thiefs bargain isnt giving the 20% increase on the "Alliance side" ive checked forums and it seems alot of people on the horde end are getting thr buff while on alliance end of things we arent? It seems like a dumb bug but if someone can discredit this for me please do. As of now im a NE on the alliance side. And im not seeing any damage increase and i hate it :(, did lots of testing myself.

[@SusejFTW]

Sounds very strange, i only have horde rogues. I can't help.

[@Yndio_]

SusejFTW aye man i get it if you dont have the time. But if you want i have a way we can test it and get the word out if its a specific bug. Because i know for sure its not workin for me.

[@jordan-jk9iu]

what addon is that for the dps chart

[@SusejFTW]

Details! (yes with the !)

[@vindicty2967]

I love you

[@landnaners]

Good stuff man maybe I'll give sub a try

[@SusejFTW]

I really do enjoy.

[@landnaners]

Omg senpai noticed me

[@SusejFTW]

Noticed & Appreciated. Thank you for watching my videos. I hope something wonderful happens to you today.

[@ΓιώργοςΚωνσταντίνου-ψ3ψ]

So you cannot really use Subtlety for competitive pvp arenas?

[@SusejFTW]

Sub Frost RMD is good.

[@thanasiszachos7431]

m8 thief's bargain is bugged it doesnt increase ur damage at all.I ve tested it so many times..I have a post about it in foruums too

[@SusejFTW]

I don't know why people think this. I get 464k average Eviscerate Crt w/ thiefs. 340k crt with out. Shadow strike is also 20% higher. I spent 20 minutes on stream testing it and showing people it does work.

[@thanasiszachos7431]

maybe it only does in instanced pvp? I spent whole night yesterday testing it = / have u disabled finality and other talent buffs while testing it?Itested in on dummies and duels btw

[@karanze8217]

+thanasis zachos What race? Heard it's bugged for alliance

[@naalir6120]

And ppl say dh is op when rogues smelt faces on stunlock xD brb rerolling

[@SusejFTW]

hehehe

[@SuperNeedName]

i farted in my mouth a bit when i seen this

[@SusejFTW]

did it taste like victory?

[@tole1615]

can u make a macro bout this all*

[@miramalverick2767]

but i like gloomblade ç-ç

[@yaboithumper4371]

Only pillow biting pole smokers main a rogue

[@TuberoseKisser]

d8 me bruh

[@SusejFTW]

u cute?

[@SusejFTW]

Wasn't dat ya mum??? ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh~

[@TuberoseKisser]

SusejFTW tbh This might swoon you(or not) but at this point I'm still subscribed to you because I consider you a (online) friend, I 100% lost interest in Wow(which is why I changed my yt name) Moonfang was pretty much because I liked the boss from darkmoon faire, Kudos to for still playing wow. I'm waiting for Revelation to go into open beta since THEY'RE BEING PICKY AND ONLY GIVING KEYS TO THOSE THAT DO REVIEWS, HURRY UP & GO INTO OPEN BETA GOD DAMMIT

[@SusejFTW]

no way am I playing another MMO

[@Jlkken]

nightblade during opener vs evicerate?

[@SusejFTW]

Does Nightblade increase damage the target takes in this patch. I dont play retail atm, but if it does CS 2p nightblade - > Rotation