Saturday

The Cross Country phase of the 2017 Mitsubishi Motors Badminton Horse Trials.

[@equestrianry6475]

1:43:48 it’s so sweet that as soon as she jumps off, she runs around and gives her horse a hug! You don’t see that very often

[@kizziplayz4194]

I know 🥺 it was so sweet

[@kizziplayz4194]

The flying Appaloosa When? I didn’t see that

[@cade_gov7977]

@@kizziplayz4194 as they're starting to walk off and she undos the flash and wipes it away, watch closely

[@kizziplayz4194]

The flying Appaloosa oh yea ☹️ That’s the sad part of eventing / sj/ dressage well any bad equestrian reappy

[@liakerfoot521]

@@cade_gov7977 there was no blood tho...

[@woohoonelli]

I am so, so glad that this is posted on youtube. Thank you for making this accessible to the world!

[@brookekrueger1688]

Simply priceless aka Jonny starts at about 3:18:20

[@dannijurgele5237]

Brooke Eventing thank youuuu, love that pair! x

[@kayleecampagna5344]

Thank you!

[@montymace1360]

Love them they are such a great team

[@mianicole8205]

Thank you!

[@Addy._.1218]

Johnny!!!!!!!!

[@Artimiinn]

I love at 1:15:55 how the horse is paying attention to not walk on his rider. It's so cute !

[@nsunderman8854]

The fact that the horse at 1:16:00 side stepped so he wouldn't run over his rider made me cry

[@youbetyourwrasse]

You know how hard it is to get blood off your hooves?

[@LabelsAreMeaningless]

That's one thing about Badminton. Most courses you aim for clear within the time; Badminton seems like you aim to finish safely in one piece. So many difficult challenges which could be dangerous for anyone not an experienced champion.

[@mariachowning1276]

I agree. I was thinking about that about half way through that the goal does not seem to be to get the quickest time but rather just cross the finish line.

[@from-Texas]

With the quarantine and social distancing its nice to feel connected to the sport I love watching most. EQUESTRIAN EVENTING!

[@tubeyhamster]

This is fantastic--thanks for posting. I wish there were a 30-second rewind button as sometimes I want to go back and it's hard to go back less than five minutes at a time on such a long video.

[@livvy8919]

tubeyhamster if you watch on a smartphone or tablet, double tapping on the left side rewinds 10 sec and you can double tap more often to add it up. Also works forward of course:) I don't know how it works on a PC/Laptop, but I'm sure it's also possible there.

[@tubeyhamster]

Thanks, good tip.

[@baileyslife6390]

tubeyhamster u push the screen two times and then u can go backwards Anyway I love it i hope u check if the ponies r ok after😦🐴🏇🐎

[@baileyslife6390]

Mark Todd go

[@datagerrl8495]

Much appreciated. Amongst marvellous performances from horses & riders, over its length I also become increasingly aware of preferences when it comes to eventing commentating ... naming no names

[@susanhodgson7218]

Was there to see the jumping live but yes can now watch all again with a G n T in a comfy chair 🍷😁

[@traumtanzerin1783]

Susan Hodgson Hehe ^^

[@hattie2525]

Re watching this after the sad passing of Mr Mike Tucker. He made a fair few gaffs in his time but we all loved him but he seemed to genuinly enjoy what he did and will be greatly missed.

[@betfreddy]

I only found out he died after reading your comment, that genuinely makes me sad, he was a great commentator, I watched this live last year and was sad when I heard about him retiring too

[@VictoryAbsolut]

Badminton's coverage was so well done. Why can't RK3DE stream on KZbin instead of trying to steam on their own website (that has major buffering issues) and trying to get us to pay to watch? I think the earning potential is more, or at least equal to, what they make on shoddy coverage through their own website. I'm sure the sponsors would appreciate more viewers, and I'm sure the spectators would appreciate being able to watch the coverage if they weren't able to travel. Not to mention, if you have a job you might not be able to livestream the entire thing so being able to watch and entire phase whenever you have time is great.

[@LE123LE123]

I had no issue with RK3DE streaming and I'm in Canada.

[@VictoryAbsolut]

Well the stream was fine most of the time (I experienced interruptions in the stream that were not due to my internet connection). But one of my main issues here is there is no footage that you can go back and watch entire segments. Most of it now is either: a. only certain riders videos are available on KZbin, sometimes not even all three phases. or b. protected by a paywall so that only paying members are able to access all of the video coverage that was streamed, hosted on FEI TV and USEA's websites only and not available on KZbin. I'm much more impressed with Badminton Horse Trials stream and experienced literally NO interruptions or buffering issues. Also, being able to go back and watch on my time without having to pay to watch is fabulous. Especially for people who attended RK3DE and want to go back to watch coverage, having to pay for that is ridiculous. Either way, well done Badminton Horse Trials.

[@121dogcrazy]

Michael Jung's round is at 1:53:58

[@kipsalviv5742]

Thank you so much for making this public.

[@alicetaylor1156]

I liked the first one because the rider really wanted the horse to know where it was going way in advance♥

[@demoniacskz7277]

I loved watching Lauren Kieffer and how she pat her horse, saying "it's okay" everytime she had a refusal

[@gravitysaddlemaker5815]

Thank you so much for sharing..

[@TonyCarrollPassion4Motorsport]

ahhh Great thanks Guys Brilliant Now we Can watch at leisure again cheers Tc

[@hannahgoodwin205]

It'd be really interesting to see a go pro footage of a rider on badminton

[@meganproffitt424]

Hannah Goodwin Helmet cams are forbidden at Badminton and Burghley 😔

[@mkeventing4493]

Hannah Goodwin i'm pretty sure elisa wallace eventing has a gopro vid

[@Cheeseburger.Launch.Sequence]

+Megan Proffitt I assume to make it harder to memorize the course? I'd assume a huge part of this competition is how the riders handle each obstacle in the moment.

[@cloboslagbag]

Who Pooped In The Pudding? It's not, it's actually because hat cams can cause more damage in a fall as the added weight tips the head forwards

[@sophclarke630]

Also if you were to land on your head the go pro can easily smash through your helmet and into your skull😬

[@guestuser1671]

Sam is just about the best eventing horse ever! He's retired now, living the good life at Michael Jung's farm.

[@traumtanzerin1783]

Did anyone else saw the blood in the horses mouth at +01:58:56? :c

[@milliped_e]

yes! it is glaringly obvious! i cannot seem to find a SINGLE mention of this anywhere online which baffles me since this is one of the world's top pairs in eventing. i sincerely hope Qing only bit his tongue, or else we would have heard more of this?

[@ashshadowhorses7441]

Poor horse! It looked as if he was trying so hard too..

[@bailey5441]

Aww poor horse 😢

[@lorelei4158]

Which Rider is that?!

[@emmagarciasz4071]

The Blood is on its mussel so I can only assume that it’s from a scratch not from the bit

[@tswboss7680]

I was there to watch it trying to find my self 🤣

[@indiatrounson1153]

amazing day for little chestnut mare Rioghan Rua, especially after that tragic test on the Friday💕💕

[@FreefallerXX]

#4 looks like me on my big horse 😅 I'm so tiny and I ride a 17.1 hh thoroughbred. It's an interesting match to say the least.

[@cloboslagbag]

Ashley Dawnhurricane Louise harwood and she has metal pins in her legs from a motor accident

[@FreefallerXX]

chloe griffiths I know, I was talking about her height compared to the big horse she’s riding. Don’t know why I responded it’s been like a year but oh well

[@dylantaylor3599]

Haha I've had 2 lessons with jonty I wasn't expecting him to pop up on screen lol...I'm only 14 he was so chill

[@jenessasutton-cooper8059]

Anyone here this year really missing this 😢

[@sbrider2310]

"He's had some nasty accidents" *riders wipes out*

[@thotchocolate8503]

LMAO

[@youbetyourwrasse]

You forgot the " ... but he always bounces back, he's one tough cookie.. " part immediately pre-wreck ! :D ROTFLMAO

[@kagri]

Thanks so much for posting this 😀

[@CatKellyEventing]

@ 6:46 I'm not sure if you saw this, but this idiot is waving his hands trying to spook the horse! You don't EVER want to do that, the horse will spook and can hurt the audience, the rider and the idiot who spooked the horse. DON'T EVER WAVE YOU HANDS DURING ANY HORSE EVENT! You may see it as harmless, but to horses it is a death trap. Horses are prey animals, anything will make a horse run away.

[@baileyslife6390]

HorseyTube Eventing

[@cindyboogerd7493]

The is stupid

[@aidamcewen6884]

I think most event horses would be quite used to it. It seems to be a British country tradition but you're right it's a bit of a safety hazard/death trap

[@cade_gov7977]

1:40:00 after Lissa green or however was done riding there was bloody foam around the horse bit/flash and the one of the first things they did was wipe it away

[@mkeventing4493]

i love how michael rides with a little stuffed animal on his back 💕😂

[@nurich5906]

He have cause one young rider died because of cancer. It's an against cancer stuffed animal

[@louisapalmer5123]

So do a lot of riders

[@Animal_lover_-tz5cd]

It’s a willberry wonderpony. An eventer called hanna francias died of cancer and you can buy one for charity

[@bellalotempio4391]

What time was Elisa Wallace???

[@lisa-marieerni1881]

I think she appears first at about 3:19:00

[@annacox8795]

Lisa-Marie Erni OMG TYYY

[@maiabeau1603]

Did they cut out the section on Alex Bragg on Redpath Ransom? I can’t find it.

[@cloboslagbag]

Horses Xoxo this is 2017 they won't show any of him pulling up or shouting for the vet out of respect when they post this years event

[@katmagnuson4101]

Is there an Order-of-Go list anywhere? I know who won :) I can find that. But I'd LOVE to see the order of go, thanks!!

[@rianklanderman1055]

tina cook was so adorable in her interview

[@sophiedoig7475]

Such a shame about Shanghai Joe at 1:02:06 , maybe if he had been caught a bit earlier or slowed down at least he wouldn't of had such a tragic end :((

[@sophiedoig7475]

He slipped and fell on a path and slid into the arches of badminton house, fracturing his shoulder very badly. He sadly he to put down the next day

[@tungsten_talons]

I'm late, but yeah. Was grateful his rider landed alright and that the horse himself didn't fall. Thought the way he kept going was a little amusing- and then I saw him jump into the crowd, and thank god no one was hurt there- and then he just kept going. Googled his name and was greeted with the news of his death. Horribly sad, it's nigh impossible to stop a horse going that fast with that determination especially out of the area but I just wish there was something that could have been or was done.

[@Lustoruss]

Watched 1:27:03 several Times. So good jump.

[@personinthecomments4892]

Can't wait for this years (2018)😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃

[@blackbutlerfan1undertaker382]

how is forcing an exhausted horse to finish the course where the horse is absolutely exhausted not abuse?

[@wum8880]

Horse likes it 9/10, I stopped doing showjumping bec my horse wanted to do eventing

[@wendydawson2053]

That was disgusting. Surprised how soft the commentators were on her. Seemed like a finish at any cost scenario, she knew the horse was fading but really sacrificed it for the finish. Shame on her.

[@saddog117]

everyone that whipped the horses before the water jumps all took a tumble, fell off horses or lost their balances on the saddles, forced to take the alternative, hmmmmm, I wonder why. 🤭

[@jasperquilnet1526]

#BBC Coverage : Mitsubishi Badminton Horse Trials 2017 🏇

[@sabrinaguadiana7217]

Are grey horses cursed?

[@lucybeswick7219]

Looks to me like the first grey horse hurt his hind leg which is why he started refusing.

[@alisonmacklin5427]

My favourite run was Lisa greens run she just didn't seem to be pulling on the horses mouth the whole time I personally didn't really think that she needed to wear those spurs , the horse looked quite forward aswell but she did not appear to use them that much but spur sometimes make me uncomfortable and the way she jumped off and praised her horse with a hug made me happy I did infact see how they wiped away the blood and foam but that is usually from a little cut or the horse had bit it's toungue and I'm not saying this because I am British aswell

[@sarahbarton4977]

What is the whistling for you keep occasionally hear.??

[@sophiedoig7475]

There are lots of crossings across the track and checkpoints at the jumps, when a horse goes past a jump the volunteers whistle like a warning, that then gets carried down the line so the people know when to let the public across and of a horse is coming or not. I hope that makes sense XD

[@sharondvis2711]

I am new to this, how long is this race?

[@albertodreisteino]

4:05:59 what a little troller

[@baileyslife6390]

Go mark Todd!!!!!!! I am New zealand

[@cindyboogerd7493]

I know this is late but I am an NZer too.

[@smol_lucifer]

0:53 I can hear you dude!

[@dylantaylor3599]

Tom Jackson is a good rider and the horse was incredible but his hands were very rough for the horses mouth

[@dannijurgele5237]

3:55 horse too small for rider?

[@KY-zs9oy]

r a i n e d IDK I think he’s just really tall. I don’t think he’s actually to heavy for the horse?

[@L.C123]

I think it could just be the length of stirrups the rider is riding with for the dressage, for example I have long legs but I tended to ride short so I didn’t look that big for a pony (14.3) but in actual facts I am (don’t worry I don’t ride anymore so don’t tell me not to do it 😉) I just preferred riding short, maybe they prefer riding long?? But I honestly don’t know

[@greentombdive]

And after dressage just a single British score In the leading 24, Tom McEwen, at 18.

[@josephine2985]

1:59:02 was that horses mouth bleeding?!

[@sofiabroberg7489]

Looks like it, but sometimes it happens, like nicking your knee on something

[@sofiabroberg7489]

He probably just held on a little tight, but they most likely took care of it after

[@nagorecasaresmunoz2436]

Maybe the horse bite his tongue I don’t know but yes it’s bleeding

[@thebayboys1765]

when the women asked that man who does he think could jump clear and inside the time I kno one rider who could... Pippa funnel and billy that's who

[@millie1594]

What is the white stuff painted onto some of the horses legs???

[@millie1594]

Cool thanks for the reply. I used to be really interested in eventing and watched it alot when I was a kid and always wondered

[@millie1594]

Wow that's cool, I hope the horse and rider were alright 😅 I used to be that kid who was super into horses and riding but had to give up during secondary school. This came up in my recommendations and it's like reliving my childhood excitement 😅😅😅

[@millie1594]

Ahhhh good

[@oaks1550]

It’s grease to prevent rubbing on the horses legs from the jumps x

[@Mickymaxywonder]

who won and wat kind of salarys do these pro hunt trial rider make?

[@silversmoke6]

Andrew Nicholson and they make fuck all.

[@Sasha-mn4qk]

Gosh this course was so dangerous and I have no idea why some riders kept going even after they messed up some fences. It’s starting to be more about the entertainment of the crowd than protecting the horse and rider.

[@daisyLR1023]

No it’s because it’s connective. If u had been training your life for this, u don’t give up after one bad jump

[@josephinesenft8956]

where can i Buy this little stuffed Horse from Jungs back?

[@jamesparry3235]

Josephine Senft they’re wilberry wonder ponies xx

[@TuberoseKisser]

is no one going to discuss one of the horses with a bloody mouth

[@ladyj7517]

NO!!! No-one is interested for crissakes!!

[@bailey5441]

Jane Doe Deer Ik it's so sad 😔

[@baileyslife6390]

Lady J rude mean person it is a living animal

[@oaks1550]

Lady J Uhm?? It’s horse abuse?

[@janinevansommeren7383]

Dope

[@hopedaylight4099]

Where is ingrid klimke?

[@vissennav]

4:29:30

[@silenusut]

Sports commentating can offer valuable learning. Clare Balding's interview of the Japanese rider Yoshiaki Oiwa gets progressively 'foot-to-mouth' insensitive. Of a different variety, Harry Meade is so pedantically long-winded.

[@aremedyproject9569]

You’re right. It was like she was deliberately trying to discourage him. Bad form indeed.

[@kaith4491]

Seriously, how hard are they pulling on these horses mouth?? I saw multiple horses bleeding from their mouths!!

[@liv8484]

Bleeding???? I think you're not looking correctly.

[@kaith4491]

@@liv8484 I'm actually am, obviously you're not.

[@FreefallerXX]

Watch the French colonel at around 1:59:00 his horse is bleeding from the mouth.

[@equine1235]

Don’t worry I don’t think the horse was bleeding because of the bit he or she probs had a nose bleed or a scratch my horse sometimes has nose bleeds when we have lessons

[@lucasa1849]

I stil don't understand why people are allowed to bring their dogs..

[@lucasa1849]

Liz Roberts . I get that. But I heard dogs barking and saw some dogs lunging at horses coming past. I’ve also seen a video where a dog did come loose and spooked a horse. With horses and riders already needing to do their best to keep their focus. Allowing dogs just seems irresponsible.

[@TallysDoodles]

poor horses mouth @4:09:53 thats a lot of blood in one side of his mouth

[@what2636]

I'm not sure if that's blood. It looks like it could be apart of it's bit/bridle. i may be wrong and if i am lets just hope it was because he bit his tongue and not anything else :(

[@TallysDoodles]

@@what2636 Defintely blood! watch it for a couple of seconds more, its bloody foam inbetween the bit and the grackle strap. Gets 0 mention from any of the commentators though weirdly

[@what2636]

@@TallysDoodles aww poor thing :( we just have to hope it was an accident and caused no long term damage.

[@horseclips549]

TallysDoodles it’s not blood. It’s a bit stop

[@evasilvester5649]

How big are they jumping?

[@FreefallerXX]

Eva Silvester I think 4* eventing maxes out at 3'11. I could be wrong though.

[@fredericafinch8376]

5:26:26

[@baileyslife6390]

Go new zealand!

[@kayap2103]

Personal time so far 2:17:00

[@MosaikHorse]

Why no Emily GIlruth?

[@TheNonMakeupGuru]

You didnt hear? She had a really nasty fall.

[@la1shley]

TheNonMakeupGuru wht did she do?

[@TheNonMakeupGuru]

Not entirely sure, but i do know it was an extremely serious accident on the cross country course that has left her in a coma in the ICU

[@la1shley]

Drachen Einhorn ohno! the fall wasnt at badminton was it? X

[@TheNonMakeupGuru]

Yes it was, theres no video of it, but you can google her name and it will come up. The horse was fine and shes in a stable condition

[@laurenmdandoliviamgssocv1317]

Louise Harwood looks tiny on that horse!

[@karleeyoungblut8456]

I’m curious as to why when the riders fall they don’t go catch their horses🤔. I’m sure I’ll never reach this level of riding but if I do I’m 100% vein my own groom and braider!! If you are fine and can walk after a fall go catch your horse!!!

[@jasminefordham4208]

lot of the time the riders airvest prevents them from being able to breathe which makes it very difficult to get up. also depending on the severity of the fall they will be asked not to move but to get checked by medical before being cleared. there are so many people on the ground prevent this

[@eventingkate1339]

If the horse stays in the area then you’re allowed to go grab them as long as you’re not seriously injured, but you’re generally prevented from going after the horse by the stewards until you’ve been cleared by the medic. Even if you come off and land on your feet, you’ve still got to get cleared before they release you.

[@pitbulls4life141]

EventingKate yeah no f that I’m checking on my horse

[@purplepinto]

Great horsemanship on show by most, but surely I'm not the only one annoyed at Wallace? The horse was nearly at a standstill several jumps from home, he was that tired, yet she was so obsessed with finishing that she never entertained the idea of pulling him up and retiring. She plied the whip instead. And when he dropped her at the last she didn't even bother tending to him. She stood up, took one look at him, then walked off cussing leaving him for the stewards to deal with. She wasn't hurt. She was just pissed off and putting herself first. She deserved that fall. Thankfully a huge juxtaposition to the majority of riders who pulled up their horses when they felt the horse wasn't going well enough to safely continue, and those who fell who promptly leapt up and tried to care for their horse even though the stewards had a hold of it.

[@prunerd4744]

You misunderstood the video. She made a public video on her channel explaining how disappointed in herself she was at this event. She regrets not retiring him. Apparently Johnny wasn't in the best of his shape and she thought she could nurse him home safely. Sadly that didn't happen, she made a mistake this day but learned from it. On her most recent events, all her horses including Johnny are in perfect shape. It's easy to have a bad image of someone when you only look at their mistakes. Yes, this was a bad run for sure, but Elisa is so much more than this.

[@prunerd4744]

Moreover, she still had a bad fall, which can be shocking, and was thinking about going to the vet booth and doctor, and getting out of the way for the other riders.

[@purplepinto]

@@prunerd4744 all well and good to say that, but when your "mistakes" involve spurring home a horse who was so tired he was almost walking by the last fence that says A LOT about who you are as a person. There was zero horsemanship involved in this ride. She looked like she had tunnel vision for the finish. "Oh well, we're only five from home, almost there." The horse was leaving legs behind and standing off fences a long way from home. Another point to make is that okay, so if you'd gotten him home ... then what? I doubt he would have recovered sufficiently by the next day and be ready for show jumping. I doubt he would have passed a vet check. The poor thing looked ready to drop dead from a heart attack. So you just whipped your horse around a big course for literally nothing except the "honour" of saying you finished. I'm willing to bet there was a sneaky bonus in it for her if she finished the course. Equestrians should absolutely be judged by their mistakes and bad rides, because it shows who they are and what they think of their horses. It's easy to be happy and love your horse when everything goes right. It's quite another to love your horse when things go wrong. And watching this - she has zero empathy for that poor beast.

[@thotchocolate8503]

Time stamp?

[@wendydawson2053]

@@prunerd4744 Horrible selfish decision on the rider's part, the horse was near collapse when he fell over the last jump. Blind Freddy could see he was finished yet she pushed him on for the last jump for her own gratification. Zero respect.

[@jonathanwolfminiature7020]

WoW ;D

[@LE123LE123]

Would love to have known who the commentators are.

[@janisrebecca6981]

is the quieter voice ian Stark? just a guess but IDK

[@LE123LE123]

Yes--I finally recognized his voice! And I know Tina Cook came in to guest commentate for a spell, and I did guess right that Zara Tindall was also a guest commentator. Someone else was in there too---someone referred to a Scottie and another gent named Mike who does a lot of the commentaries and he's brilliant! They were all great--I just think they should be acknowledged :)

[@Poseidons_Daughter_Sienna]

"Scottie" is Ian Stark

[@LE123LE123]

He was amazing! All the commentators were excellent! I love hearing from all the different riders who have done this in the past and those coming off the course.

[@janettemccardle7489]

Seems like every year I watch these it's more and more about hoping the horse or the rider doesn't die. If the rider needs a flippen air bag strapped to their chest maybe ya want to rethink what your asking these horses to do. I would hate to be the guy or gal that designed the course that killed someone or a horse died or even a bad injury. With courses like this I really don't see it showing who the best is anyway. It's horse abuse if you ask me.

[@PL-by1in]

Louise Harwood....................................

[@fredericafinch8376]

1:44:49

[@traumtanzerin1783]

+01:52:55 Awww ^.^

[@datagerrl8495]

I wonder if Hugh T could chill - the shouty voice is grating

[@datagerrl8495]

Apologies, it's Mike Tucker.

[@banananews2688]

1:01:52 oof😶

[@camthechameleon]

54:55 omg what just happened

[@LindaBell-444]

I am sorry but I cannot stand it when a horse and rider fall, the rider gets up fine and just walks away!! Doesn’t look to see if the horse is okay. That is not acceptable!!! I saw this too much watching this, riders can do better!!

[@AsadAli-jc5tg]

The thinly Mark Todd at his advanced age should be rather afraid of horses.

[@leeventing6885]

The commontator couldn’t get enough that he’d done a badminton

[@betfreddy]

Which one?

[@sawyermackenzie2701]

34:37

[@joseluisnavarrosances9432]

Zp1570

[@unicorn_6932]

Someone just slap Harry please

[@FreefallerXX]

Not as entertaining as the dressage commentators but still entertaining.

[@CandyGirl44]

If a horse hits fences that hard, as in the first grey, where his hind legs dragged over the obstacle, he must surely have hurt himself, pulled a muscle or strained something. No wonder he started refusing. Its animal abuse to allow them to carry on. Ego and greed counts more than the welfare of the horse!

[@equestanton1017]

I just can't stand seeing horses hurtling into fences, whacking their legs or thumping parts of their bodies on posts, banging hooves. I wince every time and know the damage it causes. Then the exausted horses that have jelly for legs pushed and pushed untill they crash, it's utterly repulsive. A lot of this hurts the horses, seriously hurts them and yet the riders just carry on pushing them forward like nothing was the fuck wrong. Complete disregard. Horses cartwheeling over fences, narrowly escaping with their lives. Not once, bad enough but three times! The fences are not nearly falling easily enough yet for the safety of the horse, this much is patently clear. Stewards are not noticing when a horse is in trouble and should be pulled out. As a competitive rider I find this shocking and unacceptable. I can't see this carrying on much longer. Already with endurance riding I feel they should just scrap the sport entirely, certainly from the Olympics, eventing must be a close second. There has to be a better future for horse trials, though, for the horse. I just wish we were seeing it already. Quite frankly the riders are of least concern in any of this, they get airbags and helmets and know full well what they're risking. What do the horses get for their bravery and honesty, fuck all except pain if they're lucky. Also rather sad seeing the pony abuser Joris Vanspringel. If only we knew, "really lovely guy" he is not, he certianly doesn't "deserve a medal" more like a life times ban from coming anywhere near a horse.

[@equestanton1017]

@Liz Roberts Yes indeed if only we knew. Still a mere nine month ban is pretty atrocious. We may never know what goes on behind closed doors, but this glimpse is enough for a life times ban just to make sure. We owe the horse this peace of mind.

[@equestanton1017]

@Liz Roberts Yes absolutely, we should also assume this for the horses sake. There are of course also the concealers who have only been exposed at home training. Here's hoping Vanspringel is so shamed from this exposure that after the nine months we wont see his face around horses ever again. We can only hope. No amount of apologies can save what that pony endured, none. Abuse is abuse, if you're capable of it you shouldn't be around animals. The FEI is not showing enough determination I feel to stop abuse, there should be no second chances at this level. I agree with the system during competitions but this is entirely different.

[@wendydawson2053]

Agree. And all the horses who refuse a fence and act like they're about to get whacked, then the rider pats them. Horses don't lie. They've been whacked at home for refusing but in front of a crowd it's a reassuring pat. Sure.

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