Saturn 3 & Ultra Vs Anycubic M5 & M5s - 4 Printers - 1 CLEAR WINNER

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00:00 - Intro

[@FauxHammer]

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[@NotAJiveTurkey]

Please tell me what resin you used? Name brand and exact name of resin model. thanks

[@ashokdastidar5332]

Fantastic review and comparison!! Thank you for taking the time to put this comparison together.

[@joesands2129]

Picked up an S3Ultra and its amazing thus far! Sharpness is awesome, regardless of ACF, barely can find layer lines anywhere! Thanks for your fantastic info and hard work!

[@FauxHammer]

Great to hear!

[@xXKisskerXx]

I for one, absolutely thank you for your raw honesty in reviewing the printers, and telling me what they can do, what they do really well, and areas they are lacking. This helps me TREMENDOUSLY to choose 'which resin is right for my desires?" - and spot on, I have a hard time finding others that will be this critical and do this level of testing. So thank you. When I do buy my printer, whatever it may be, I will find a way to get some money to you, be it an affiliate link, or a donation or whatever. I am still a ways off picking which one, but you 100% are helping me. -- side note I get terrible buyers remorse on things like this, so I tend to take a long time to pick one, and by the time I got around to resins, 3 more generation of resin printers came out that were ALL better than my previous selections, so it is a slow process. Few questions Remain though: Can you use the Deeper Vat from the Anycubic- on the Saturn 3 Ultra? The geometry of the elegoo's seem identicle, are their red and black hoods exchangable? (I'd personally want a red hood, but this is such a minor thing) Other than that, for these particular printers... I am leaning on the Ultra. Now I just have to compare that with some others that have like, heated chambers for vat warming... and if that is something I will need, and the like.

[@LordHedwig]

exactly what i needed. Thank you Faux, great work!

[@DragonSkullStudios]

Great review. I appreciate the breakdown across 4 printers.

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks I love doing stuff like this

[@RealRenixGaming]

I've been bouncing back and fourth with my decision between the M5s and the Saturn 3 Ultra. Thank you for this review!

[@agentcee688]

I have the M5s and Mono 2, very happy with them considering I upgraded from the older Mono. The Saturn 3 Ultra and Mars 4 probably would have been the better combo for only slightly more money, but at this point all printers are so much better than what they were 5 years ago that you really can't go wrong regardless of what brand you pick. Even the cheap Mono 2 produces beautiful prints. While the M5s technically produces the worst quality prints in this head to head, the print quality is still really good. Without magnification the prints on all these printers are very similar to the naked eye, especially after you paint them.

[@tejedi84]

Thanks for the comment here as I am new to resin and I'm about to do my first print with the M5s and I don't want to return it.

[@wadebrewer7212]

Lol....sounds right though. I would probably be fine with last year's models. Still printing FDM and still printing on an original Ender 3.

[@ArtificerGoblin]

I have been in LOVE with this series of reviews! I feel like you give very detailed reviews without nitpicking, and the way you edit the videos is the visual equivalent of cutting butter (smooth). I'm already a big elegoo fan, but this just solidified it, I'm totally saving up to get the 3 ultra!

[@FauxHammer]

Thank you so much!

[@blindsay]

I have the Saturn 3 ultra and i like it, Wifi was a big selling point for me as i hate those little usb drives that fail anyways. I did have a fep failure and I am about to try the fep from the saturn 3 myself to see if i can see the difference (I prefer quality over speed anyways). Thanks for the comparison video!

[@maayu8108]

New challenger approaches, can't wait for Elegoo Saturn 4/ultra reviews in a couple of months

[@dracosummoner]

Thanks so much for this thorough comparison.

[@marblemolly2454]

Excellent video, thank you. Definitely helped. I came into this about to pull the trigger on an M5S, but I have changed my mind. Speed is not crucial, for me.

[@SgtHouse]

Wonderful review! Definitely going for Elegoo Ultra!

[@jamesparker2400]

i reaaaally needed this video, thanks

[@Gounesh]

Great video and channel! Wanted to correct a thing, OG Anycubic Photon was full metal body and had LRL. I still love mine!

[@manuelkarlinger1272]

This video helped me decide for one printer like no other! Thanks very much.

[@FauxHammer]

Glad I could help!

[@polaco1243]

Great last and definitive review!! it help me a lot to get my decision, sadly the saturn 3 ultra doesn't arrive in my country, but still will get the saturn 3. Thanks!

[@FauxHammer]

Glad I could help! Thank you for your kind words

[@FullmetalTimo]

Just got my first 3d printer ever today (Saturn 3) and cant wait to start printing, im so excited! Thanks for helping me in choosing my first printer Fauxhammer :)

[@FernandoCarril]

I’ve got the m5s for 400 with 1kg of fast resin and 2 air pure filters and was planing to return it. But I gave it a chance and after some calibration tests I’ve got incredible results. Even with the ugly acf semi transparent film. No idea why. But good surprise.

[@WIBRTyranT]

out of curiosity, what settings did you go with? i picked up the M5s as well with the fast resin, and also grabbed an extra vat with nfep incase i want better quality.

[@CGDreamsTutorials]

Very good comparison video, it sure does look like the Ultra has the upper hand here. I have the M5s on a deal and seems to be nice for my larger prints. I have had no issues with Wifi, worked right away out the box in my garage, picked up wifi in the house fine too.

[@tjCooper88]

Same. I don't think he's doing the WiFi correctly. Also the detail is stunning even on tiny tiny prints.

[@MsDokaman]

Please tell me which one is better for jewelry and small details?

[@CGDreamsTutorials]

@@MsDokaman I think it goes without saying much other than the Saturn 3. The extensive tests show that the M5s is not all that sharp in details however either will be good as I have done some very detailed prints. The speed thing is not worth it as without the expensive resin for it, its hit n miss pushing the speeds up.

[@JackOiswatching]

Finally, the comparisons we've been hungering for! Thanks for the video. I'm kind of glad I don't live in the UK and am thus immune to the desire to try Wargamer resin. Can't be envious if it's impossible to have it.

[@FauxHammer]

We’ll get it to EU & US ASAP

[@anaels7758]

Thanks for the review and avoid buying crappy addons ! I have invested in a good room ventilation.

[@fredrickelrik]

I've got a small print farm going and it was getting a bit much for my 2 mono 2's fomoed on a sat3u that came up on eBay and the wireless/speed/build plate increase has been a saviour. The mono 2 is a a+ starter and produces amazing quality to price but the sat3u is a beast.

[@silverczaja]

very helpful, i was just at the stage you said at the start of the video, chose a printer, and could not decide between 3 and 3 ultra but 3 ultra with PFA filter it is, thanks, keep up the good work

[@FauxHammer]

You went for the best choice I see. glad this was helpful.

[@silverczaja]

nevermind that, kept watching videos for another 20 hours, from you and some other reviewers, and went with the GKtwo instead, hope i made the right decision, it's almost double the price of the bundle they had for black friday compared with the elegoo bundle@@FauxHammer

[@DemonOfFury]

I love my anycubic photon 3 premium what I don’t love is them not have replacement screens available, unfortunately it was my first and will most likely be my last anycubic printers. I’ve had zero issues with it and it’s actually my first printer. Thanks to you and a few other in the community I was able to get my poop in a pile and print some good quality minis. Thanks for your content it is appreciated 👍🏻👌🏻🍻 keep it up !

[@waiagames]

Impressive review you've made of this lineup of printers, you've helped me a lot to renew my printing farm. I already had it clear that Elegoo was currently ahead in quality, but after this video, I'm taking a few Elegoo Saturn 3 12k.

[@FauxHammer]

Glad I could help! i would love it if you would use my affiliate links! and Thank you

[@Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel]

That was another great video. Thank you. I can’t wait until I am in a position to get my hand on a resin printer. Still seems really far away but its very valuable information and clarification.

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks fir watching in preparation

[@Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel]

@@FauxHammer I have a very small space for all of this and limited fund. I do have a crappy window in that room, so I first want to replace that window with a vent/filtration system.

[@joostrove4440]

Yes, the carbon filters do remove VOC, I have tested it by measuring the VOC in the air before and after.

[@jp.girardi]

Incredible video, really thanks

[@bluecraftsandgarden5130]

I’ve had any Anycubic for years. Could never get the prints to be super nice quality with finer details and sharper edges. No matter how much fine tuning I did. I was thinking of going to a different brand and this convinced me to do so lol

[@yolo6741]

Very good comparison and I especially like that you point out that this 8K, 12K, 14K marketing blaablaa is ridiculous as the real pixel size counts for details. And it is always good to mention that the resin does have a great impact on your print quality just like the filament quality for FDM printer. Thanks for the video.

[@xRaptorScreamx]

I stuck with the M5S, and with ACF didn't had failures of sticking to it or not sticking to the plate, with the settings they offer on the AC website. I did get fast and succesful prints at 30um an 50um with AC ABS-Like, i had it set to 2.6s exposure, an 360mm/min lift speed, so most likely it was maxed out at whatever the motor speed was and printed fine. But as said here and every review the ACF leaves a small texture all over the print, it is barely visible imo, but it does affect some small details that might affect some minis. for bigger prints, and especially mechanical/engineering stuff, i dont really see it as a big negative Once I switched to nFEP i had to drop the lift speed to around 60-100mm/min, same exposure times, but more failures because the nFEP at this area size is way stickier than ACF. I did preorder it so i got it for 420$, hence way i stuck with it, Saturn 5(ultra) had more expensive pre-orders

[@CGDreamsTutorials]

I didnt think it was posible to get such speeds from ABS like, can you share the resin profile for photon workshop please?

[@petercallison5765]

I sell printers for a living and one reason I sell a lot more Anycubic than Elegoo is that you can often get Anycubic well below the recommended or official prices. Also, something you will never get from reviews is that I get more customer returns on Elegoo printers. If the Saturn 2 has the Fresnel lens, then I will be taking another look at those.

[@julianopolito]

Do you know what vat tanks are compatible with Saturn 3 ultra? Is Saturn 2 vat compatible to 3 ultra? Thank you!

[@magomedsamadov4109]

Раз Ввы зарабатываете продажами Anykubik то в Ваших интересах говорить плохо про Elegoo

[@cr8fconclave]

@@magomedsamadov4109, I chuckled at your comment at first. Then I re-read what the original comment said and I disagree with your assessment. I believe they sell both Anycubic and Elegoo and simply conveying their experience at this specific location.

[@nopbotnopbot3597]

buckled after watching these videos for 2 months. Saturn 3 via affliate link. Thank you so much for all your time doing these videos. P.S. We need that Wargamer Resin in the states.

[@SilkyBadger]

Totally agree, I have both in my printer cupboard and the Saturn rules every time.

[@FauxHammer]

It’s weird how people who only own the Anycubic tell me I’m wrong, but anyone who owns both, tells me I’m right

[@Luv2ripFPV]

Great review!

[@sinuhevaltari706]

Thanks for the video. I'm getting into the market for a resin printer and am now debating one of these vs Uniformation GK2. How would you rate the Uniformation against these 4?

[@1738Creations]

I bought a Mars2 when they first came out. Was my first resin printer. I'm not buying another until they add screen protection as standard. There is zero reason to have the screen touching the FEP other than being designed to fail. Like most other people, I stuck a second FEP sheet over the screen to protect it... after I realised it was being damaged. Zero loss in quality or extra print failures.

[@kszyh_]

I hope to confirm that choosing the Saturn 3 Ultra is a good choice for high-precision printing.

[@thebfg5651]

Very helpful. Thank you.

[@FauxHammer]

You're welcome! and thank you!

[@mephesto2004]

I have a monox and a mono x 6k and just got my first elegoo. The ultra and honestly it's better. I love the mono x so dependable, (6k has inconsistencies print to print) But the ultra is great and has so many quality of life features. Granted I have only a half dozen trays off of it.

[@msp5616]

Already purchases the M5s, and so far for me, I'm happy with it. But it looks like I'd be over the moon with the Elegoo. Oh well, next time. Thanks for another great comparison video

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks mate, The M5 is still a good printer, it's just not as sharp

[@jfhiramia606]

i bought saturn 3 ultra ,, im very satisfied , very fast print , stable linear no printlines and good UI screen .

[@captainyolo2593]

I ordered my saturn 3 ultra before this video came out ( it hasn't arrived yet ) and was a bit worried when I first clicked on the video if I had made the wrong choice but it seems I have made the perfect choice.

[@WiNNiep00h]

I really wanted to order the mars 4 ultra because of the Pixel size. Also I don't need big print area since I always just print small figures. Buying a bigger printer like saturn 3 ultra means more costs in every aspect. The printer itself but also new films or a new display if something breaks. BUT I do want to best possible quality...so as I understood I should buy the saturn 3 or saturn 3 ultra with extra Film.

[@samster1995]

Awesome video 🚀

[@ramblingbadger]

Thanks for this 🙂

[@v3rlon]

Gotta throw your props for the Pitch Meeting reference. Its super easy, barely an inconvenience.

[@TapCat]

I came to the comments as soon as I heard him say that and was shocked how long it took me to find a comment like this one. Could be that there isn't a huge overlap between the two audiences even though 3D printing while watching satirical movie reviews is tight!

[@pauldavidson317]

I got in early on the M5s at $399 so that's great value for me. Added the M5 vat for when I need detail. I'm not locked in on printing miniatures so the detail in my eyes is amazing

[@FauxHammer]

Right on. And yeah that is a steal of a price to be honest, Iike I said in the intro, None of them are "bad" printers.

[@pauldavidson317]

@@FauxHammer I'm just waiting for AC to announce a retrofit fresnel lense and then we'll be sorted

[@Gimli017]

I think for me adhesion with the etched surface was never the issue, I just far prefer flex plate to help ensure I don't accidentally launch a print when scrapping it off the plate. There are sometimes those certain prints that just stick so much harder to the plate, and when they finally release I'd hate to launch a print I just made for someone across the room

[@junk3386]

I agree with you: I don’t care what ppl say, but I love my flex plate!

[@politicalpolarbear]

I'm with you. I have a flex plate on my Mono 6k and I would hate to lose it. It will be the first thing I buy on a new printer.

[@AFV85]

Beige sunlu abs like works great for the high speed its like water this is what I'm using just now its alot thinner than the grey and now i have had to 3D print a replacement part for the m5s build plate to get the correct home hight for auto levelling till the version 2 build plate arrives i atleast have it working just now! M5s build plate and spacers on printables if need a fix till anycubic sends your new build plate out!

[@rodneygaul2227]

thank you this helped in my choice

[@TheIcemanModdeler]

I got the Saturn 3 Ultra, has some features i don't get but it prints great which is the most important thing.

[@FauxHammer]

Exactly, if it's right for you, that's what matters.

[@i_am_not_a_pro_but_lets_try]

Voxeldance Tango slicer does support network sending - but you might need to update to the latest version, rather than the one available from Elegoo and I use the vat (and sheet) from the Saturn 2 on my Saturn 3 Ultra - so I get the best of both worlds - I have a vat with ACF, and one with PFA - depending on if I want speed or sharpness.

[@FauxHammer]

Ah, as I said, I’m not a fan of that software so haven’t even bothered looking that hard

[@heldersantiago6515]

Thanks for the comparisons you've been making. I'd initially ordered an M5s, but after seeing these vídeos I ordered two Saturn 2 ultras and am probably going to be sending the M5s back when it arrives. Or I might keep it to run a few comparison tests myself, then either sell it cheap to a friend or give into my daughter's to play with so they don't touch my Saturns. I wonder why your vídeos and Vogmans vídeos are almost polar opposites when it comes to the comparison of the M5s and the 3 Ultra. He seems to favor the M5s, and you, the Ultra.

[@FauxHammer]

If you do run some comparisons I’d love to heard your experience with whatever resin you use. I stand by my words as I basically just say what I see. But I’m quite isolated when making a summary judgement

[@deaddycruel]

the one who paid for a dinner later is the one who dancing a lady :)

[@JackPullen-Paradox]

The WIFI connection on the M5s is difficult, but becomes less so after the initial setup. You can save your STLs to your phone, do your final slicing, and send the results directly to the printer. I have had 10-12 consecutive good prints so far using the fast resin. However, the prints are quite brittle, and when I tried to fit pieces together in one of my models, I broke part of the model. I reprinted and it happened again. I am more interested in using apps like Scaniverse to make 3-D models from the phone camera, so I am looking for speed and size. And the M5s seems fine so far; though, I could use more z-height. I have not tried using a third party slicer yet; from the way the monitor app works, I have a notion that if I go through it, I may have to pass everything through its slicer. Could this be? Probably not.... Anyway, the problem with the M5s is the WIFI setup. As for the monitor app, I have heard several people say on KZbin that there are two apps, one of which works. I don't know which I have, actually. I think I may have the one that is not supposed to work. I will have to look into that.

[@nideininger]

i love my ultra! only the acf died during the 2nd validation matrix bc there was a little fail from the first print left. gotta say i have the nfep vat bought and could just swap out the vat and oh boy the ultra with nfep is just insane (printing wicked3d witcher diorama rn) and elegoo service is amazing too

[@scottybruce4302]

Just out of curiosity, is the Saturn 3 tank the same as the Ultra tank?

[@nideininger]

@@scottybruce4302 and the same as the saturn 2

[@FactionalSky]

Thanks. Now I don't know what printer to buy. :D But maybe is should get the Saturn 3 Ultra. But I can't use you ref links since shareasale links get filtered by almost all privacy filters for a reason...

[@LSCModels]

It never upset me. My M5 works great. I had the Elegoo Saturn 3,

[@bif24701]

Great video!

[@3dpathfinder]

Just wondering, Is there a reason you pour the resin on the build plate or is that just for visuals? Also, I have been printing resin constant since i followed your guide and have had no fails. Ive been using the Sunlu ABS-Like resin and its been great.

[@FauxHammer]

Solid! Glad to hear your results from that guide. And you are right, it just looks better pouring it that way

[@kevinkirk6442]

i have watched so many of your videos and I don't even have a printer... I might not even buy one for a year or more, because I am moving 6,000 miles away from where I currently live in the next year, but I figured, "here is my comment". Keep making videos, i will eventually get into the hobby... to support my other hobby.

[@FauxHammer]

I understand and thanks so much for watching, even without a printer. Hope the move goes well

[@ROKKIT44]

I was disappointed to learn about the Mars Mate Air purifier. Besides a proper review you have in store for that, can you also tell us if Elegoo offers replacement filters? I was looking for an eternity everywhere online and couldn't find anything. I wasn't going to buy it it until I knew that tidbit. If this one isn't good, I would very much appreciate recommendations.

[@FauxHammer]

Not so far nope, and that’s another point covered in my review

[@rinehart-uk3uv]

I bought a Saturn 3 based on your previous videos. Glad to see further confirmation that I made the right choice based on my printing needs.

[@IVIRnathanreilly]

Definitely what I'll be going for too. The extra features on the ultra don't seem worth it. Worse film and WiFi is useless for me because it won't be in my home.

[@abstractfate6104]

You’re on a roll with the sons of anarchy prints I dig it

[@FauxHammer]

Have more to do still

[@abstractfate6104]

@@FauxHammer keep it up that's bad ass, I have a motorcycle I need to 3d print but its FDM and im super scared with that turn out. Supports on my printer suck sometimes

[@highrise9559]

I took the easy way out. I already own an M5s and use the nFEP film and just purchased a Saturn Ultra and will be swapping out the ACF with the FEP.

[@FauxHammer]

Good call

[@uvz6539r]

looking forward to this...... since saturn 3 (non ultra) comes with the nfep, it proberly have the best quality print...... that would be where my money is.... the acf film thingy seems to be a bit of gamble... some get a good acf film... others... oh dear

[@frbrbrgrblgrr7777]

Hey FauxHammer. Let's just say a printer for minis between 28-75mm and all I care about is quality and detail. Speed doesn't matter to me. Elagoo, Phrozen or (another brand I might not know) for what I want? I like the comparisons but I would like to know about specifically detail and who right now is the best choice under around $1000

[@CommanDOH-JKU]

Any chance of reviewing the Creality?

[@charlesmayes3692]

yes, this helped me choose a printer.

[@TheDigitalDM]

When is the Wargamer Resin coming to the US?!

[@GameEsthetics]

I just got the Mars 4 and did the test print… The printer displayed that it “finished” but the print was only about 90% done when I pulled it off the plate… Does the printer automatically set the height parameters for a print from the file or could I possibly have a unintentional height limit set on the machine?? Sorry if my question doesn’t make sense, I have only been doing this for 1 day 😅

[@MsDokaman]

please tell me which one is better for jewelry and small details?

[@markabbott358]

Hi I am still researching what to buy as I am an N gauge railway modeller, and my son is a v keen Warhammer player/builder, so is also interested. He reccomeded your chjannel and it has been v helpful in educating me as to what I should buy. Please keep up the great content.

[@ntgCleaner]

Just as an FYI, the Anycubic Photon M3 Premium has LRL. I know it's not compared here and I also know they are seemingly dropping support for the m3 premium (Can't find them anywhere) and both my original and replacement screens went out within 6 months of owning the thing.

[@FauxHammer]

yeah the M3 Premium was an incredible printer, they canned it far too early

[@ntgCleaner]

@@FauxHammer I would agree, though I had 2 screens go bad on me in 6 months. Support said I'm SOL so now I'm weighing whether I buy a new screen or a new brand of printer!

[@justinweismermedia8603]

Just became a member, thanks for the video! Planning on getting the Saturn 3 Ultra for printing and painting miniatures. How does the Saturn 3 hold up against the Mars 4 Ultra or any another $400-$600 Resin printer. This will be my first 3D printer, looking for something somewhat on the easier side of use for beginners. Also Faux where do you like to get your models from?

[@FauxHammer]

Welcome!!! Great pick, yeah I’d say the Saturn 3 ultra is the best in that price range easily. Though based on some reports, you may need to replace the ACF film with NFEP film for the best detail. It worked for me and I’ve seen pics from people which echo that statement but others who get lines on their prints… I get most of my models direct from the creators, but MyMiniFactory is one of the best places online

[@justinweismermedia8603]

@@FauxHammer Thanks for the reply? Is there any resources you can point me to on how to replace ACF film with NFEP film?

[@carlosgonzalezgarcia5823]

Muchas gracias por el vídeo 😊 me gustaría preguntarte en que orden pondrias estas impresoras, la verdad es aue es dificim elegir porque todas ofreven slgo interesante. Anycubic x 6ks, elegoo satunr 2 8k, elegoo mars 4 Ultra, anycubic M5, busco sobretodo calidad de impresión, cual ofreveria mejor resultado usando la misma resina. Mil gracias por lo qie hqces y como ayudas a la comunidad 😊

[@FauxHammer]

Hiya, I hope this is in a decent order for you and helps with your question www.fauxhammer.com/top-10/the-best-3d-printer-for-miniatures-models/

[@user-bv9lu7du6p]

Unless the GK2 wants to hit that $500 price point for black Friday, the S3U it is! Thx!

[@Quil14]

Just pull the anycubic out by the bag, that's what I do. Put it on floor and lift, slides out brilliant

[@Trevor3DrPrints]

If you had to choose would it be Saturn 3 or Saturn 3 Ultra? Thanks

[@_Junkers]

Are any of Anycubic's offerings worthwhile? Elegoo and Phrozen do not ship to NZ and I'm not enthusiastic about about paying a reseller a significant markup

[@clubskitzhardstyle]

i feel like the mars air thing would be good if it was water proof and can be ran out a window or onto a balcony or something like that so it can pump air out side

[@elskepode2]

This video made me cancel my M5s Pro for the Saturn 3 ultra. I would've love the auto bed leveler and the cleaning system that the m5s provides, but I look forward to the higher quality prints

[@lanzer22]

between all my purchases I've always been burnt one way or another with Anycubic printers. My M5s will be the last Anycubic printer I buy. Autoleveling sounds amazing until it isn't. While I'm not a big fan of Elegoo's ball joint, you can actually mount it at a 90 degree angle to let resin drop off the build plate. I miss that simple design decision.

[@FauxHammer]

Sometimes you can. Depends on the plate mounting shape.

[@TsarPII]

I ended up with a free mars 4 max because it was damaged. it printed great for a couple weeks now im pretty sure the damage has caught up to it and i cant get a successful print at all. so here we are back to the drawing board. this is a really tough choice...or is it? are they both amazing and im lucky to be starting this hobby now instead of 5 years ago? idk what to do :(

[@svaarcaldersson6628]

Any chance you are are going to review the Mighty 12k? I havent heard any complaints about them so far, other than the install is a problem.

[@FauxHammer]

Already done, just need to edit the video

[@rhoalpha]

Smaller size for the anycubic, literally made the difference for me so i can fit it in a cupboard 😅

[@eghterafi]

helped allot

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks, glad it was useful

[@heldersantiago6515]

Thanks!

[@FauxHammer]

Thank you so much!!!!

[@keithkirby7376]

So have you tested whether the acf films on the ultra are the key? Can I buy the elegoo brand acf and get better detail on an m5s? I havent really had trouble on my m5s in terms of detail or sticking to the plate. After some calibration it prints a 50 50 mix of siraya fast navy grey and 3dmaterials superfast black really well. But i turned the speeds down until i can buy the proprietary ultra fast resin made for acf film Also has anyone figured out how to NOT use photon workshop and still get a file that the anycubic cloud app will recognize? I use ctbpro with the anycubic plugin but i have to use usb because the cloud app doesnt recognize the filetype it spits out. Even though it works on the printer just fine.

[@josefernandopadillatorrau8411]

Excelente

[@FauxHammer]

Gracias

[@jarchambault69]

Did you say you used PFA on the Ultra? What did you say was the link to that videa and what settings did you use. I had a film failure and replaced my ACF with PFA and would like to see what settings you like. Cheers

[@FauxHammer]

It’s in my Saturn 3 Vs ultra video from last week. No settings changed. Just relevelled

[@KeishaDeniece]

4:28 The belly of wisdom😆

[@neumann1940]

22:14- A subliminal message to Anycubic response xD xD xD , nice one Ross

[@FauxHammer]

This was more blatant in the M5s video where I used it after quoting their response. But you were the first to spot it and comment!

[@LightOfReason7]

I want to make heads for figures that have great detail. It can be slow and does not have to be big. Which one is best?

[@Harh1981]

Thank you for the video, Ross. Though as I did watch the previous ones, the result was predictable 🙂 May I ask you one question considering exposure. Since you've tested all the Saturn 1 8K, Saturn 2 and Saturn 3, pointing out that S1 8K was actually a faster printer in the terms of layer exposure, can you tell what was it considering S3? I mean, for example, on S1-8K you have 1.5 s exposure, on S2 you have 2.5 S (theese are the numblers IIRC). What would it be for S3? I mean did they manage to make a more "transparent" screen or maybe Elegoo made a more efficient light source. Completely agree considering M5 - they need a premium or plus version. I personally would buy 5S already if not that blurriness thing.

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks, the reason I say it’s faster on the Saturn 8k, is because it isn’t as sharp, that’s all, because if they, you don’t need extra exposure milliseconds. Both the Saturn 2 and 3 are about 1.5s exposure time depending on room temperature and resin used

[@Harh1981]

@@FauxHammer I see... So it seems 12K screens do not have noticable "transparancy" upgrade. It's a bit funny situation here - there are a lot of M5S for 500 USD, but no Saturns yet. They are, but they go for 700--800, that is obviousely excessive. M5S "sense" system looks great really, I would jut buy that and forget, but you are not only the person who tells "they have inferior quality compared to previous 8K models"

[@Armabelico]

Just in case, did you keep in mind the fact that Anycubic Mono X needed higher height test cause the initial over exposure? I wonder if that bug remains, if that's the case you'll need to redo some tests, even the RERF that comes with it suffers from that so theres a custom one, it's just thicker. Anyway it's a very informative video, super complete, thanks messenger!! ;)

[@FauxHammer]

Check out my M5 video for everything I did. it was more than enough

[@aurelienandlauer9668]

Hi , Thank you for all your videos!!! I'm hesitating between the Elegoo Saturn 3 Ultra and the Anycubic Photon Mono M5s Pro. What do you advise me? THANKS (sorry for my bad english )

[@FauxHammer]

Saturn 3 Ultra

[@aurelienandlauer9668]

@@FauxHammer Thanks for answer ! Have a nice day

[@Sammojo1]

Hey Ross, I have read that the Ultra (both saturn and mars) have limits on the lift speed which stop you from slowing them down further. This can mean failure on swapping from ACF to NFEP or PFA because the lift speed won't slow enough for those films. Have you come across this issue?

[@FauxHammer]

I typically do every test at 60mm/m or 1mm/s. Never had an issue at that speed on any printer.

[@Sammojo1]

Apparently the ultras are limited to minimum 100mm/min lift speed that's coded in, and setting it lower doesn't actually change the speed. Reportedly Elegoo are planning a firmware update to fix this. Presumably it was because the Ultras come with ACF. Maybe this was bad information (a few people have posted this on reddit - and there is not a lot of info out given these printers are new). I suppose if it's not causing failure then it's not really of any consequence though. Thanks for the reply!@@FauxHammer