THE BEST Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra Review on The Internet

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0:00 - Introduction: First Impressions of the New Printer
0:58 - Key Questions Answered: Tilt Mechanism and Purchase Worthiness
1:10 - Design Features: Technical Stripes and Lid Mechanics
2:00 - Practical Considerations: Space Requirements for Use
2:36 - Technical Specs: 12K Display and Print Quality Misconceptions
3:26 - Screen size and Print Volume
4:00 - Unique Features: Tilt Vat and Resin Vat Design
4:39 - Transition to PFA: Advancements in Print Detail
5:01 - Build Plate and Z-Arm Connection: Design Enhancements and Concerns
6:37 - Mechanic Changes: Lead Screw vs. Ball Screw
7:01 - Ventilation and Filtering: Changes in Design
7:29 - User Interface: Orientation and Usability
8:01 - Localization Errors and UI Details
9:00 - Resin Calibration Feature: How to Use It
10:02 - Print Quality Summation: Comparison to Saturn 3 Series
11:00 - Model Showcase: Variety and Detail of Printed Models
12:44 - Slicing Software: Transition to Chitu Box
13:56 - Remote Printing and Storage: New Features and Limitations
14:03 - Tilt Mechanism Benefits: Reducing Print Failures
16:01 - AI Camera and Failure Detection: Limitations and Potential
17:55 - Installation of Additional Lighting: User Modifications
18:17 - Conclusion: Should You Buy This Printer?

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@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
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@FarmerJim
@FarmerJim 2 ай бұрын
So this one of GKTwo?
@user-hi1mj4mc3w
@user-hi1mj4mc3w 2 ай бұрын
Affiliate link doesn't work for me 😢, clicked others and are fine 😞
@AntiVaganza
@AntiVaganza 2 ай бұрын
Wait, what?! Does an expert like you still go with crazy bottom layer times like 27-35secs or was it just a default setting? If I have one pet peeve when it comes to resin printing it's people using way longer exposure times than they need. I speculate you fry your screen faster this way, too. Not because the extra mins are anything in the greater scheme of a multiple hour print but because you may be putting a whole lot more heat into the screen. I have yet to have a "bed adhesion" failure on my old, trusty Anycubic 4K Mono and my bottom expos are ~x5 the regular exposure time. Meaning I am often at just 10-12 secs and only four layers. And nope, I didn't come up with this, smarter people did, but it simply works. Besides that, great review. I am hoping the tilting mech can also help resins with heavy die or ceramic particles, etc in them to not settle out so fast. On long prints, this is sometimes an issue. So, maybe the swirling will keep the particles suspended better but at least the faster print time will help.
@Topless_Stang
@Topless_Stang 2 ай бұрын
Where did you get that light from?? Wanting to add one to mine and that looks like a decent setup, although I'd rather it was a smart light.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
@@Topless_Stang it's not the best choice IMO, I use them for Lighting effects on videos amzn.to/3UsPXF7 Just get an LED light with a power witch to turn it off. that;s what i used now, but instead of a power switch, I just plug it into the printers USB port that I don't use....
@elizabethkoopman4984
@elizabethkoopman4984 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your detailed review. Your videos have helped inform my decision making with 3D printing more than anyone's and I've went ahead and pre-ordered my Saturn 4 Ultra.
@vizionct1
@vizionct1 2 ай бұрын
Ordered my sat4 ultra day one. As a generation 1 Saturn owner, I’m sure I’ll be impressed by this one and relieved your review was mostly positive😅! Thanks and looking forward for more to come!
@TechBrewGamer
@TechBrewGamer 2 ай бұрын
Saturn 4 Ultra Pro will add a heater or a carbon filter, but will not be released for another 6 months when everyone already bought this one.
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 2 ай бұрын
Just buy the accessory heater?
@patrickhentschke6542
@patrickhentschke6542 2 ай бұрын
How do you connect the accessory heater? There is no usb inside the printer and as far as I know there is no hole you can get a cable through.
@MassisPipes
@MassisPipes 2 ай бұрын
​@@patrickhentschke6542there's a 30mm fan hole on the back you could use?
@denisbreeze3648
@denisbreeze3648 2 ай бұрын
​@@patrickhentschke6542 Идиот, что тебе мешает просверлить отверстие в крыш?
@TechBrewGamer
@TechBrewGamer 2 ай бұрын
@@patrickhentschke6542 I was being sarcastic. It would be a rerelease of the whole system but with those added features. Like the Saturn 4 Ultra has the tilt but the Saturn 4 do not have the vat tilt. If you follow the releases of 3D printing machines you might get my sarcastic joke.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 2 ай бұрын
Wow, Ross, this is the most complete review about the Saturn 4 Ultra. I loved watching it. Congrats man! AND you opened it!!!! I almost did it, but I was already so late to finish the video. I am glad you took even more time and actually opened it. I am also happy you talked about the grip when holding the Build Plate - I sent a message about it to Elegoo. Let’s see if they’ll have time to do something about it… otherwise, I will create yet another MOD for the printer. Oh, I didn’t test, but maybe it is possible to manually adjust the actual pressure of each corner, tightening the springy screws.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much brother, I watched your video earlier today, I think I put a comment. Really nice review end nice handle. Did you by chance release those STL files for others to use. That would be awesome. But thanks for another great video from you too. This one is impressing so many people and it deserves its praise no end
@MegaJ0sh
@MegaJ0sh 2 ай бұрын
As much as it would be nice for them to have had a knurled Surface to hold the build plate surely just get some grip tape for a skateboard or some sticky back 120 grit paper and put that on?
@leobro6398
@leobro6398 2 ай бұрын
I really liked this review. You said your overall opinion first, then went into details and the small things they could improve.
@22pieter
@22pieter 2 ай бұрын
thanks Ross I'm just starting with 3d printing the ultra 4 will be my first printer. I checked a lot of videos but yours are great and easy to understand. greetings Pieter
@wastonleil2629
@wastonleil2629 15 күн бұрын
so cool to see newcomers! i'm sure you'll like it, just be patient and please pay attention to security warnings. Resin is a danger for health, so please use gloves, mask, and use it in a non-living room
@TableFlipFoundry
@TableFlipFoundry 2 ай бұрын
So glad you made this video. I ordered my own and am waiting on it now...
@theromeog
@theromeog 2 ай бұрын
Convinced me. Just ordered. Thanks for the amazing videos.
@ResinForge
@ResinForge 2 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this video! Thank you for going into such great detail on all of the features. I am super excited for this machine. I think it’s a perfect option for a mid range printer for people jumping into the hobby, it has so many quality features for its price! Great video as always Ross! Love seeing the comments on Uncle Jessy’s video about him saying “Fox” Hammer 😂 Made my morning
@SgtHouse
@SgtHouse 2 ай бұрын
Looks like I have new toy in the near future! 😮 As always thank ypu for the awesome review and the 5th element reference at the end!
@nikroth
@nikroth 2 ай бұрын
I was expecting this ! Great day !!
@richarddean8042
@richarddean8042 Ай бұрын
Just ordered one - thanks for a decent review
@bogdanuntila1972
@bogdanuntila1972 Ай бұрын
Just ordered. Thanks for the review. It's my first printer and I'd very much like an in depth guide please!
@Choom42
@Choom42 2 ай бұрын
I pulled the trigger during your live at launch! Going to be my first resin printer yay! Nice review once again!
@tb841
@tb841 2 ай бұрын
Same mate, but my second printer. I've got a mars 3 and love it but I want to print larger projects and the larger build plate has been something I've been looking at for a while. Nearly bought a Saturn 3 last launch but was poor at the time 😂
@Gulaschiltis
@Gulaschiltis 2 ай бұрын
same here... I was literally starting reasearch on what to buy... and the next day this was released - instant buy^^
@benmuir6570
@benmuir6570 2 ай бұрын
LOL, it seems I was not the only one convinced to by one of these.
@Choom42
@Choom42 2 ай бұрын
Hahaha nope, I think we all raid the website. I think Ross is going to have a nice check soon 😂
@HangryZens
@HangryZens 12 сағат бұрын
Wish I didn’t get the mars 4
@enigmaticreverieproduction5169
@enigmaticreverieproduction5169 6 күн бұрын
Preferred it using your link! Thank you!
@DavidHurst78
@DavidHurst78 2 ай бұрын
Also pressed buy it now using your link. Thanks Ross
@zbug84
@zbug84 Ай бұрын
Getting this for my birthday present to myself in August. When I started printing a couple of years ago your videos helped me come to a decision on which machine to go. If the link still works in August, ill be using it!
@ForgersWill
@ForgersWill 2 ай бұрын
Solid reference at the end there.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
been wanting to get Fifth Element in for a while
@patrickassmus3132
@patrickassmus3132 2 ай бұрын
I got a few screenshots of the printer for the, uh, archives.
@AdrianGreen-qr4yy
@AdrianGreen-qr4yy 2 ай бұрын
great informative review on the Saturn 4 ultra. the tilting vat seems a game changer for ease of use not having to calibrate lifting time duration/speed is brilliant. 5th element reference FTW!
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
Multipass!
@AdrianGreen-qr4yy
@AdrianGreen-qr4yy 2 ай бұрын
@@FauxHammer Yea she knows its a multipass!
@JerryBWagoner
@JerryBWagoner 2 ай бұрын
I may have to look at this as my upcoming upgrade.
@3dpathfinder
@3dpathfinder 2 ай бұрын
I will be using your link when i order mine.
@Iz_Wut_It_Iz
@Iz_Wut_It_Iz 12 күн бұрын
You got my sub, great video! I’m considering buying this as my first resin printer
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the sub! it's an incredible printer
@Hero1117a
@Hero1117a 2 ай бұрын
Luv my saturn 3, holding off on based on your review
@MrTeal888
@MrTeal888 2 ай бұрын
Pulled the trigger during your live launch. Now counting the days until it arrives.
@josephstrouse6369
@josephstrouse6369 2 ай бұрын
As I am just getting into the resin printer side of the 3D printing hobby I was just about to get the GKtwo over the Saturn 3 Ultra, however, this new model with its seeming ease of entry use makes me feel like I should go with the Saturn 4 Ultra. I wish it had that heater built in, but with the cost savings being close to 50% I can use the other monies to get a wash and cure station at the same time instead of DIYing those solutions. Thanks for the review, by the way, your lid open dimensions were exactly what I was hoping to hear as the machine will be going into a closed structure with outdoor venting. Cheers!
@JAFC315
@JAFC315 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video as always Ross!!! Great Quality!! Honestly, I'm not able to decide if I should get this or the GK2, which one would you recommend me?
@FattyZee
@FattyZee Күн бұрын
Very excited, have to wait until August in Australia but its locked in
@maxpower8080
@maxpower8080 2 ай бұрын
I like that you are honest here, this is the best saturn 4 review in the internet (until your next review). Enough nice word, some points I am interested, if there will be a more in depth video. 1. Does the tilt mechanism make a huge difference, a super thin supports possible. 2. Can you talk more about the "auto level", can I ajust the screws or change the higt of the plattform? 3. Do you think, than its possible to use a flexplate (I know, you dont like them, you cann and will probably skip this question) Thank you
@Patnode88
@Patnode88 2 ай бұрын
Great Video!
@plasia
@plasia 2 ай бұрын
Really interested in the review of the upcoming heater.
@aberodriguez4149
@aberodriguez4149 2 ай бұрын
Great review Ross for the money and the features you mentioned this sure is worth having a second look. Curious to see if those mini heaters are efficient or worthless and it would of been nice if the lift up cover would of had the hinges in a more functioning position as to allow the cover to be raised up and not pass beyond the back of the printer especially for those with limited space. I don't know if someone has shown the true leveling of the bed to the vat but that would be interesting to see also. I will be on the look out for your next review on this printer, thanks for your work and time.
@alwayswatching6318
@alwayswatching6318 2 ай бұрын
Yeah this flip lid looks like a massive downgrade from the old lift off lid. I can easily put a lift off lid on the floor, but I can't add an extra 25cm to the depth of my work surface and print tent. I suspect I will just undo the hinge and turn it into a lift off lid :)
@aberodriguez4149
@aberodriguez4149 2 ай бұрын
@@alwayswatching6318 Lol that is a great idea since I am limited in space and funds. There's a KZbinR that has his setup in a closet and he designed some kind of hook to hang his cover on the inside of the closet door btw his printer is not this model but a little bit of brain juice and anything is possible. XD
@Barbasnoo
@Barbasnoo Ай бұрын
I was about to preorder this printer based on your review I watched a few days ago. Then I remembered affiliate links and how you deserved my click due to the sheer level of quality and effort contained in this video. So just like pikachu, I chose you and ordered it via your link. Also I need you to outlive me so that I never have to be without your videos. K thanks!
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer Ай бұрын
Wow, thankyou!!!!!! One of the kindest comments I’ve ever read!!!
@LuminaryGames
@LuminaryGames Ай бұрын
@@FauxHammer Seconded. I have just decided to get into Resin printing. And luckily found your channel and will be making my decision based on your reviews and will make sure to use your affiliate links.
@Dr_Evil_Prime
@Dr_Evil_Prime 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your help - Alex
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
WOW! Thank you so much Alex!!!!!
@jimmyispromo
@jimmyispromo 21 күн бұрын
Great video
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 21 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@LycheeSlicer
@LycheeSlicer 20 күн бұрын
Great video as always! The Saturn 4 and 4K Ultra are already integrated into Lychee. We're working on integrating WiFi and camera features to make them available as soon as possible 😊
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 20 күн бұрын
Thanks guys!!! Oooh that’s exciting, I hope to see your integration method as the current method in this slicer feels a bit Janky
@Perserra
@Perserra 12 күн бұрын
Sadly I'm not in a position to get a new printer right now, but your review and Kirioth's have helped me decide it will definitely be a Saturn 4 Ultra when I do.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 12 күн бұрын
There are other coming out this year… keep an eye out. Love @Kirioth!
@Vormulac1
@Vormulac1 2 ай бұрын
Great review! :) I pre-ordered an S4U recently so it's nice to see a positive look at it. I see Anycubic have just announced the Mono 7 with a heated vat, a resin pump, a 14k screen (for whatever that's worth) and they've increased the Z height so the build volume is on a par or maybe slightly better than this. Of course they don't have the tilting vat and in the UK it'll be significantly more expensive than the S4U.
@mendicantbias5211
@mendicantbias5211 Ай бұрын
anycubic has the worst customer service in the industry
@Londubh
@Londubh 2 ай бұрын
It's awesome that the Calibration mode allows you to specifically set the time, rather than them deciding what the steps will be for you. That allows you a Binary (Quintinary, actually) Search for dialing in a new resin. For example, if consensus is that the optimum print time is somewhere between 3.7 and 4.1, you can do as follows: Print 1: 3.5, 3.75, 4.0, 4.25 --Two Best: 3.75 & 4.0 Print 2: 3.8, 3.85, 3.9, 3.95 --Two best: 3.95, 4.0 Print 3: 3.96, 3.97, 3.98, 3.99 --Two best: 3.96, 3.97 Print 4: 3.962, 3.964, 3.966, 3.968 --Two best: ???? With _one_ more print, splitting the difference between the two best from print 4, and you've dialed in the perfect print time for that resin to the maximum precision in Chitubox. Plus, if one of the earlier prints was "perfect" from your perspective, then you're done. Add in some sort of resin temperature control, and you should have effectively perfect prints every time with only _four_ test prints total.
@matts8023
@matts8023 Ай бұрын
They disabled this feature on the Saturn 4 (not ultra)
@Londubh
@Londubh Ай бұрын
@@matts8023 ...why would they do that? Are the margins on the ultra really that much better?
@matts8023
@matts8023 Ай бұрын
@@Londubh I imagine so. Classic corporate move. Like pay to use model for a lot of cars these days - you bought the hardware but have to pay subscription to use it.
@robse1002
@robse1002 2 ай бұрын
Great video, Ross, as always. You do make the best 3D printer reviews on KZbin. Can't wait for the Sonic Mighty Revo as a comparison now, though I doubt it can compete!
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
thanks so much mate, I put my all into this one as it is an important one. Mighty Revo should be about a week. Review is written just need to record tomorrow then edit
@robse1002
@robse1002 2 ай бұрын
There it is! I'm hyped :)
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
Sorry to have kept you waiting.
@robse1002
@robse1002 2 ай бұрын
@@FauxHammer Dude, no! I didn't mean it like that :) As I said, you're just doing the best reviews and I've been hyped for your opinion on this one! We all know you're working very hard!
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
@@robse1002 No no, it's fine, I am genuinely just sorry this has taken so long. to you and everyone! I assume now you've seen how much has gone into this one. It is a milestone product and I wanted to get it right rather than rush it out to be "first" with a review.
@Rh0deRage
@Rh0deRage 2 ай бұрын
Doing it, finally going to upgrade from my gen 1 mars.
@hanysonic
@hanysonic 2 ай бұрын
Me too mate! what a gap!
@smtkelly
@smtkelly 2 ай бұрын
Great review, does the lid let out resin smells?
@W98Dragon
@W98Dragon 2 ай бұрын
Hey Ross, kinda off topic, but I wiil say it again, I tried your resin and it's superb! Much much better compared to anycubic WW+, I just hope that it doesn't crack as people say waterwashable resins do, even tho I'm printing models that I prime and paint with lacquers...
@VideoSage
@VideoSage 2 ай бұрын
Forget not, the Prusa Sl1S had a tilting vat too. Though I don't know about the inside workings.
@scottpovlot7376
@scottpovlot7376 2 ай бұрын
Ross, this really is the best Saturn 4 Ultra review I have seen. I am a bit skeptical about the lack of speed options in the slicer and just Slow/Fast in the printer. I agree that the tilt helps so much with peel forces. This is great for beginners. But more advanced users should be able to experiment with even faster options. Hopefully, an option can be made as firmware update. I was also surprised you didn't mention that a handle would be helpful. I saw you lift the lid with your pinky which is great. And then I thought that I would have a whole bunch of fingerprints all over the front.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
I honestly don;t see the lack of a handle as an issue. it;s why i included that part, if you listen to the audio at that bit you can tell i added in the audio afterwards
@Drakonaut
@Drakonaut 2 ай бұрын
Good to know that there is not an app for the remote camera monitoring, and I agree that that would have made it easier, since for me remote monitoring would involve me not being at the house while it prints.
@porksoda0
@porksoda0 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate having the heater and carbon filter as an optional extra, as I print in enclosures with heaters and extraction external to the printer, and i can't be the only one!. I think it makes sense to add those items if you need them as people like me would be put off paying a higher price for these features.
@JC02102
@JC02102 2 ай бұрын
Same. Personally, the carbon filter does absolutely nothing for me. I have an extraction fan hooked up to the back too which on paper should be more than enough but I think the machine (Saturn 2 in this case) just isn't airtight as I need to it be. Without a respirator I can always smell it if I'm in the same room and if I'm there for even 5-10 minutes my throat gets scratchy in a way I've never experienced. Similar story for the heater. Heating the vat instead of the air made more sense to me so I was always going to go DIY.
@BabyJesus66
@BabyJesus66 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. I don't need a heater at all. So I'd prefer to not pay for something I don't need. I wish they'd to that with all the extras that not everyone wants, and just keep the price low as it can be... like the AI camera, I don't care about that at all.
@brianparamore6928
@brianparamore6928 Ай бұрын
Same here, heat isn’t an issue for me and 400$ for a built in one is a deal breaker. Saturn 3 user patiently waiting on this gem to expand my output
@Immolate62
@Immolate62 Ай бұрын
Florida man says don't heater me bruh.
@SCHRUBBE1966
@SCHRUBBE1966 2 ай бұрын
Ok. Now you got a good review
@parallaxgames
@parallaxgames 2 ай бұрын
This is really cool. I like the speed and the detail of it. I don't really like the potential for disaster from the unprotected screen. I've lost screens before due to resin leaking under the tape seal and I don't relish having to replace a screen in something with a tilt mechanism. That said, if they do the same with a Mars ultra later this year, I'll probably be on board.
@mikedunning265
@mikedunning265 2 ай бұрын
Great review. Nice reference to 5th element. 😂
@uwegraf8013
@uwegraf8013 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much Ross. Great Review 👍 Would you still go with the Uniforation GKtwo or with the new Saturn 4 Ultra?
@Jane-de2re
@Jane-de2re 20 күн бұрын
Saturn 4 Ultra
@TheOctabreaker
@TheOctabreaker Ай бұрын
I don’t necessarily care how my printer looks either, but I do wish it had the like green lid. I’ve pre-ordered it and can’t wait for release!
@wildguardian
@wildguardian 2 ай бұрын
Tilt releases seems to me not only good for speed, but also for suction cups.. better releasing, and more stability on the axis when a print is a geometrical directly on the build plate kind of prints..
@Tarok-2316
@Tarok-2316 2 ай бұрын
Hi Ross, thanks for the video, I was now curious to see how it handles light support, or even very light supports, with this innovative way making the levels. And another thing I'm curious about is if the temperature affects it less then the normal way of printing, of course the best is to have the right temperature, but would be nice to see if this printer is less affected then the others due to this new mechanics.
@JohnSmith-rt5yq
@JohnSmith-rt5yq 2 ай бұрын
tempted to pick this one up. the peel forces on my jupiter are just a pain to manage, this may solve that at the expense of a smaller print area.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
Check the review when it’s out, I think it may push you over the edge
@jakubwitas6627
@jakubwitas6627 Ай бұрын
Right now I have Mars3 Pro which is printing fine. But I have huge urge to upgrade it to Saturn 4 Ultra but still in back of my head is that that in 1year we will get even better printer so Im not sure If I should wait or give it a try. Nice video as always!
@RumblingBob
@RumblingBob 2 ай бұрын
cool and interesting review! I liked how indepth and technical it was, but i would suggest to cut down on the stock reaction clips. They are too long and don't add anything but interrupt the flow of your visual narration, maybe add them in an overlay over actual footage if you must.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
We keep them to a minimum, there’s genuinely nothing that works better here
@DialetoNerd
@DialetoNerd 2 ай бұрын
Tilt release mechanism came around on Prusa SL-1 couple years ago , good video 👏
@dan3dprint183
@dan3dprint183 2 ай бұрын
Formlabs in 2012 used the same system for the Form 1and drop that system in next model Form 2.
@paranoidpanzerpenguin5262
@paranoidpanzerpenguin5262 2 ай бұрын
Tilt releases aren't new, they go way back, they're just new for consumer printers. The SL1S starts at $1700.
@AkalaFPS
@AkalaFPS 2 ай бұрын
Please start comparing printers to the GK Two and similar. I know they compete in difference price brackets but in this case the speed could be a real deciding factor between the two. How does the print speed of the GK Two compare to this printer?
@Nemesis-12
@Nemesis-12 2 ай бұрын
Ross! thanks for another printer review! thanks to your effort I was able to get a uniformation gk2 earlier! (is it still good?) but I could really use some resin suggestion help! please help ross!! 1/6 1/4 scale models is what im currently messing around with! (you did mention Phrozen Aqua Hyperfine! Im just nervous to get started)
@aaronreynolds8587
@aaronreynolds8587 2 ай бұрын
Great review, thank you! So...between the GKTwo and the Saturn 4 ultra...all other things being equal and cost not being a factor, which would you choose? Also, for some unclear reason, I tend to get consistent suction/peel force related failures, despite my long bottom layer exposure times and releveling. So the peel away tech of this new printer has massive appeal. Any hopes of seeing this tech surface on the next Uniformation printer? Or not needful because of other factors inherent in the GKTwo?
@wojteklabuc
@wojteklabuc Ай бұрын
I'm binge watching your, and few other creators, videos to figure out which printer I should buy. For upgrading 1:64 and 1:43 model cars. So I will print only small elements, but tricky ones like wheels with all fine details. And then is resin types question because it would be great if it could work with rubber or clear acrylic type resins. Could you advise me where I should look and what printers are with consideration? And thank you for great job you're doing. You saved me already from making mistake. YT is full of videos which are misleading and your channel is so helpful with explanations and knowledge.
@markoramljak9579
@markoramljak9579 2 ай бұрын
can you test how saturn 4 ultra would print a flexible resin? those resins require higher lift distances while printing so I'm really curious how, if at all, they would print with this tilting mechanism 🤔
@NuarStanger
@NuarStanger 2 ай бұрын
Prusa was the company that released a resin printer with a tilting vat initially I think. But it does seem like a cool feature
@jtrain9926
@jtrain9926 2 ай бұрын
Kudos to Elegoo for some very big innovations with the Saturn 4. I was very close to picking this up, but the lack of a vat heater makes it a pass for me. Specifically, the design of this tank will make it very hard to get a vat-band around (off the shelf fermentation bands will not fit). I print in a garage that gets down to 10C and a chamber heater cannot warm the system up fast/efficiently enough to be practical for me.
@Rybek
@Rybek 2 ай бұрын
One next interaction. 1) Handle 2) Easy removal of lid without unscrewing anything, just pressing to release 3) Front removal without screws 4) any leak protection inside to catch leaking resin thru the gap. 4) Easy replacement for films by just replacing plastic module so it can take few seconds 5) bigger screen with adjustable position
@jacksmith785
@jacksmith785 2 ай бұрын
Seems like the only aspect of this thing that I'm not thrilled about is the gap above the build plate that makes it harder to scrape resin off. Otherwise, that looks fantastic!
@stefanhaupt4947
@stefanhaupt4947 2 ай бұрын
same here. I wonder what could we do do make this better?
@Immolate62
@Immolate62 Ай бұрын
@@stefanhaupt4947 whip our you Bambu and print a shroud! I suspect one will be available soon.
@awildtomappeared5925
@awildtomappeared5925 2 ай бұрын
the s3u had a glass screen protector, if you try and scratch the corner of the screen with a craft knife or something and it doesn't scratch then it's glass so it must be a screen protector, if it scratches then it could be a plastic protector but more likely just no protector. Also, an overlooked feature of the tilting vat is that it will keep the resin mixed much more which is great for long prints (well it would be if the vat was big enough to fit more resin, m3 premium vat is a godsend) or resins that seperate a lot.
@BrianGreenstone
@BrianGreenstone 2 ай бұрын
Best review so far. That build plate seems unnecessarily complicated. I'd rather manually level like before and have a simpler, smaller build plate.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
you can still level it manually. but yeah, had they gone with the more enclosed GKTWO approach, more people would have been happier
@martingranouillet8846
@martingranouillet8846 2 ай бұрын
Hi @fauxHammer thank you for your work and your review. Do have plan a review of the Phrozen Revo ?
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
Already done sir, just editing now
@martingranouillet8846
@martingranouillet8846 2 ай бұрын
@@FauxHammer you're the best so existed to this and to compare with the saturn 4. All the best from Paris :)
@Vulcanobruno
@Vulcanobruno 2 ай бұрын
Thanks again for this video. I bought my first printer because of your videos Unfortunately I didn't watch enough videos to choose a good printer. so I want to change 🤣 I'll be waiting for Sonic's video. From what you said in the chat, it doesn't look great, but we'll see.
@TokynawaTube
@TokynawaTube 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic review Ross! I’ve just purchased the M5S Pro and haven’t even used it yet. But this video has given me serious FOMO. Is it worth selling the M5S Pro and buy the Saturn 4 Ultra? Only reason I bought the M5S Pro was the heater!
@TheHBKV
@TheHBKV Ай бұрын
hello between this one and the future m7 Pro from anycubic, which one would you choose? Because I'm very hesitant :) very good video by the way :)
@jeffholt9437
@jeffholt9437 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully not a stupid question but does the tilt function allow for the flat surfaces of a print to be set at less of an angle to the build plate or even set on it?
@Twigz11
@Twigz11 Ай бұрын
You opened the printer up and mentioned it was simple to do so but how to easy is an LCD replacement?
@fmkkshi
@fmkkshi 16 күн бұрын
Awesome video! I'm a begginer and the saturn 4 ultra will be my first printer... any tips of wash and cure (2 in 1 would be great) machines to match the saturn 4 ultra?!
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 16 күн бұрын
The Mercury is the one to match the Saturn Ultra
@EkaitzHonuchPrieto
@EkaitzHonuchPrieto Ай бұрын
This seems like an incredible machine! I got an Anycubic Photon S around two months ago, second hand for 80€ to see if I liked 3d resin printing and I'm loving it, even if it's a bit old and slow haha I'm thinking about buying this one as it's really cheap for all it has here in Europe, but I don't know if it's maybe overkill for a beginner in 3d printing? I do model my own stuff, both artistic and functional
@catnamestaken
@catnamestaken 2 ай бұрын
Coolcool, very interesting
@Phobos2k
@Phobos2k 2 ай бұрын
I have very probably seen a big problem. At 19:12 you can see how the spring at the front right relaxes when the tank is lowered and is compressed again when the tank is raised. So the LCD is pressing on the model.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
I think that’s just the bed raising. If this were pressing on the model, I’m sure I would have seen issues
@MaheerKibria
@MaheerKibria 2 ай бұрын
So while i am glad they added a tilting mechanism it is hardly a new mechanism for this generation and more new to this size at this price. The Prusa SL1S Speed had this feature. It was also $2000 for a small format printer so there is that. A lot of your criticisms are valid. But I really don't want heated vats by default. Not everyone needs them not everyone wants them. Not to mention chamber temperature also affects the print. The Elegoo heater looks promising since it addresses the biggest problem with chamber heaters. But blowing air up rather than toward the build plate a lot of the problems with blowing resin should be mitigated.
@slyoldowl
@slyoldowl 2 ай бұрын
I have the saturn 3 the red one big one my first printer it's time for an upgrade
@Gaston12345
@Gaston12345 2 ай бұрын
I have seen feature requests on the prusa platform to enable switching off the tilting. Reason: as the tilting force is not perpendicular, the parts tend to warp. Is this likely to be an issue? If so, I would suggest a printer with two tilting mechanisms, one on each side, so the tilting could be done alternatively front-down and back-down, to even that out. Would not even be much more expensive imo.
@Zunip182
@Zunip182 2 ай бұрын
This looks absolutely great. Little bit of buyers remorse on the 3 Ultra now. Although, noticing how much of a factor temperature is, i dont plan on upgrading until thats addressed.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I mean you still have an amazing printer. and don't forget that these don't even start shipping until June!
@Venturestien
@Venturestien 2 ай бұрын
Ross, I did it. I pre Ordered the Saturn Ultra 4 with your link but now I need some advice. What do I do with my old Anycubic Mono X with a burnt out screen lol. It’s not worth the cost to replace the screen in my opinion and I don’t want to a ship it anywhere due to cost. Thrift shop I guess? Or maybe recycle the UV light for a new post process curing box? What would you do?
@stratton78ja
@stratton78ja 2 ай бұрын
@FauxHammer Great review!!! Gonna upgrade from my Anycubic Photon M3!! This is an amazing printer! Also what Gundam video is that at the start of the video?
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
thanks, it;s not a Gundam video. It's one of the sci fi intro's that KZbin lets me select for premieres kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZ-9fpahdt9moqc here's 10 minutes of it. So cool but also pointless. onc eof the best anime sequence ever tho
@simonidentity2630
@simonidentity2630 2 ай бұрын
Is the speed upgrade with the 4 ultra really worth losing build height and being more drippy than the 3 ultra
@TheRockDK
@TheRockDK Ай бұрын
How's the seal on lid regarding resin fumes? I have a Mars 4 9k and the lid does a great job keeping the fumes inside when not in use.
@Northern_Viking
@Northern_Viking 2 ай бұрын
I love your videos, and i am going to start my own 3d printing journey, so i have 1 question. If money was not a problem, would you choose Uniformation gktwo, or Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra??
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
Depends. Am I printing in my garage? If so, GKTWO. Am I printing in a print farm? Also possibly GKTwo, because of the easily replaceable screen. Am I printing in a room with constant heating? Saturn 4 Ultra I also need to consider the lifespan of the gk2 nowadays
@Northern_Viking
@Northern_Viking 2 ай бұрын
@@FauxHammer What do you mean by the lifespan.? I am going to print in my insulated garage, and to be total honest, I have already ordered the GKtwo. I was just trying to find out if i should cancel my order, and go for the Saturn 4 ultra. 😅 I fear buyers remorse.
@drjock4209
@drjock4209 Ай бұрын
love it man im buying it when i can asap hahaha , i been using my elegoo saturn 2, 8k scince i preordered it and recieved it, and it has never let me down hardly ever failed a print, and is still currently running pretty much every day all day i churn out full sized firguringes from sanix 3d and other big designers , also alotta pokemon haha ,,,, so i will back any and all future elegoo printers 10000% ,,,,, we just need a bigger plate mayby 12-14 inch build plate :P
@SamuraiMujuru
@SamuraiMujuru 2 ай бұрын
I bet the rocking vat would even be helpful with keeping super pigment dense resins like Fast Navy Grey from separating at least a little longer. And on other miniature agnostic gaming, Forbidden Psalm, Hobgoblin, and Reign in Hell are all really good.
@v-xup6
@v-xup6 Ай бұрын
which one would be your best pick (regardless of price) Saturn 4 Ultra vs GKTWO vs MEGA 8K S
@yourgoodliness
@yourgoodliness 2 ай бұрын
This is certainly enough to get my attention, but there are still questions unanswered about the new features that would benefit from a deeper review.
@peterpeter5666
@peterpeter5666 2 ай бұрын
Really want to pull the trigger and have this be my first resin printer. But if the Saturn 4 can deliver same quality prints at 150.00 less then why not. I have my p1s for most of the prints I just want a resin printer for painting models, once in a while
@mendicantbias5211
@mendicantbias5211 2 ай бұрын
P1P/Saturn 4 Ultra FTW!
@Hurtone
@Hurtone 2 ай бұрын
I am considering getting a Phrozen Revo.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
Please wait for my review, I beg you. 2 weeks max!
@Hurtone
@Hurtone 2 ай бұрын
@@FauxHammer will do
@LAwizard
@LAwizard 2 ай бұрын
This looks amazing! I just wish we didn't have to loose 40mm of build volume to get here :/ Great review tho! :)
@thedorklylionchannel415
@thedorklylionchannel415 2 ай бұрын
Do you know the power of the light source? I feel like that is going to start becoming a distinguishing feature as qol catches up across the board.
@teabagNBG
@teabagNBG Ай бұрын
cant decide if i should get this one or the m7 pro from anycubic
@techlabs9385
@techlabs9385 2 ай бұрын
What would you choose between this and Anycubic M5s-Pro? 🙏😊
@calose123
@calose123 Ай бұрын
The prusa sl1s had the tilting mechanism years ago.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer Ай бұрын
and Industrial printers had them years before that...
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