SAUCONY Endorphin Speed 3 Test Test...Durometer Curve

[@djswany85]

I literally bought the Speed 2 yesterday for 1/2 price. In typical fashion, I'm at least a year behind in shoes

[@wendyyang]

Would you mind sharing where to buy Speed 2 for half price? Thanks!

[@michite7435]

Yes! I bought the speed 2 about 2 weeks ago when there was a 40% off sale...

[@TasosHadji]

That’s the best strategy! Also buying last year’s best shoe for a fraction of the price!

[@lukaslowingsvensson9500]

I wouldn't say that's a bad thing. Being one year behind for half the money sounds good to me. It's not like people thought the shoes were terrible in 2021.

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

Brilliant

[@marathonrunner89]

I got the speed 2 over Memorial Day weekend when they were on sale and am loving them. QD: "Gotta run before you see the sun"

[@matthewhairell1456]

Exact same for me.

[@juanloera2760]

QD: Living in Houston, Texas my summer training strategy is waking up early and being out the door by 5:00AM to escape the heat and humidity. However, yesterday's run at that time was at 85% with high humidity. At the end of the day (or start) it just has to get done! Hydration hydration hydration!

[@austinwanner134]

QD: with work schedule, I don't really have to worry about the heat as much. Working from 10 to 7 means I can run before and/or after without too much thought

[@PBnJ213]

QD: I do something that most people I see during my runs probably question - I run in a long sleeve base layer and a long thights (both UA). Also, I am wearing a cap and carry a bottle of water/electrolyte mix with me. The long sleeve/long tights have two major benefits: 1. it protects me from any UV rays and sunburn and 2. it quickly soacks up the sweat, wich helps me stay cool(er) through the wind while running. I compared the data on my Garmin and it helps me to run with a lower HR as well. Try it out and thank me later ;)

[@jakehollenbeck9732]

I just bought the speed 2 this week! Still waiting on them to be delivered. Thanks for all your reviews and recommendations!

[@jacobreeves1307]

QD: CHANGE YOUR EXPECTATIONS. Most people will give some good advice on physical preparation. That’s great. But it’s super important in this heat to have different expectations. On a speed workout, be okay with threshold pace, on a threshold workout, run tempo pace. On an easy day IGNORE the pace. If you don’t, you’ll continually get frustrated. Stay hydrated and good luck out there!

[@ericpetersen8645]

100% agree and great advice! I’m in central Florida and pace goes way down in summer and HR goes way up. My Garmin pretend VO2 max looks like two different people summer/winter.

[@shannonsides6017]

Seven pairs of Endorphin Speed 1s, 2 pairs of Endorphin Speed 2s, my favorite model in years! I hope the v3 is just as great!

[@davidmusil4145]

Wow! How many miles were you able to run in one pair? Is the durability fine?

[@marcusvgl]

@@davidmusil4145 I have more than 1300km with my Speed 1...

[@shannonsides6017]

@david musil they have great durability, but I replace shortly after 300 miles bc I have some tendinitis in my feet, so I air on the side of caution, but most pairs have had no signs of needing retirement.

[@tnaft9648]

My Speed 2's are my favorite running shoes ever. I don't have many years experience but have tried numerous shoes that are popular. The speed 2s are light, comfortable, and imo look great!

[@craigelliott2524]

Love my speed 2… my favourite shoe of all time. My 5k, 10k, 21k race shoe and soon to be my first ever marathon race shoe (Melbourne marathon)

[@jochembeumer2673]

QD: Getting up earlier, running early in the morning before or around sunrise is magic when running through the woods. You see and hear way more animals and it isn't that warm yet.

[@footballisunited9642]

I only picked up the Speed 2’s last week on clearance. 20 miles in and very impressed so far

[@toddarnold2819]

I currently use the Speed 2s for my daily trainer. Absolutely love them! QD: During the summer, I typically make sure my runs happen in the morning, and move weight training to later in the day when it gets too hot. If I do run during the hotter hours, I try to make them shorter, less intense runs with a lot of fluids.

[@RebsGuarina]

Awesome, I haven’t even worn out my speed 1’s yet. It’s at 400Kms with minimal wear. I bring it trail running sometimes…

[@MrAldiyar]

I originally bought the Speed V1 at an amazing discount back in the summer of 2021, but I was unlucky and the upper started developing a tear on the left shoe. Emailed Saucony and they offered to replace them with a brand new pair of Speed V2’s! Still running in these and loving them so much!

[@philippegagne268]

Thanks for the shoutout Seth!! I still rock the speed v1 for tempo runs. Great shoe but could be a little more stable. Looks like they fixed that on the v3. QD: heat is not so much of an issue here in Northern Alberta 🇨🇦!! For the two weeks in the summer when it gets to around 30C (90’sF) will try to get the run in the morning. Onward and Upward

[@Stick79]

Good luck doing Edmonton. I was hoping to get up there for it this year but it wasn't to be. I hear it's a quick course so have a lot of fun with it, no matter what shoes you choose.

[@chrisdick726]

Hey from Carman, Manitoba. I running the MB half on Sunday and looks to be a scorcher with a 30 C plus forecast.

[@philippegagne268]

@@Stick79 thanks a lot!! It looks flat and fast, looking forward to this one.

[@philippegagne268]

@@chrisdick726 awesome 🇨🇦, good luck with your HM and careful with the heat!

[@chrisdick726]

@@philippegagne268 Thanks! Will be smart in the heat.

[@alexr273]

It’s funny how saucony is trying to make the speed more of a daily shoe & it’s still better than most super shoes.. for half the price

[@TomTheOriginal]

I had the Speed 1 and 2. Speed 1 felt more accommodating for easy paced in my opinion. I found the Speed 2 a lot firmer and narrower, leading to instability at slower paces

[@BigTrojan7]

I changed over from years of running in Asics (Gt's, Nimbus and Kayano) to the Saucony Speed 2 and the Freedom 4. The Saucony Speed 2's are by far the most enjoyable shoes I've run in, loving them for 10-30km runs. Quite excited for the new Smurf's. Would love to see the battle between the Noosa and these Speed 3's!

[@donnybrooklads]

Almost 60 here and cushioning is vital for long runs while maintaining pace and the Endorphin Speed 2 has been brilliant. Will buy the Speed 3.

[@Stick79]

Got my first pair of Speed 2's last month and they'll (hopefully) be propelling me around Banff for 26.2 miles this Sunday. Love them so far and the 3's look great too. QOD; Summer running means early starts! Set the alarm, turn the doorknob and get out there to catch the sunrise and avoid the heat.

[@LR6092]

Nice! I'll be in banff as well

[@Stick79]

@@LR6092 Forecast has improved a little today. Let's hope it stays dry. Have a great run. Have you got a time you're aiming for?

[@LR6092]

@@Stick79 yes it has, cloudy would be nice, last year it rained so hard the road was flooded out at the vermillion lakes on the way back. I'd like to beat 1:28 I just got in Calgary hm but it was pretty recent so we will see. Yourself?

[@Stick79]

@@LR6092 Yeah, I was there last year. Pretty wet. You're doing the half then? I'm looking to break 4 hours for the first time. Getting pretty nervous now!

[@LR6092]

@@Stick79 yes hm for me. Good luck out there!

[@inf3rno691]

For Training in summer, i prefer late afternoon (when the sun goes down). I dont prefer early mornings because of the sunlight. I suggest full hydration and replace minerals after every training.

[@Jgunner2011]

I’m down here in Texas. It is hard to run in the summer. Yesterday in the early AM it was already mid-80’s, 76-degree dew point, and 95% humidity. I’ll probably invest in a treadmill soon 😢

[@sb8449]

Living in Austin, TX it’s already been summer for 2 months! 😂 the best strategy I’ve found though is getting out there earlier in the day around 7am. I know not everyone can do it, but getting the run in and breaking a sweat to kick off the day has been game changing for me during the summer, not only to avoid the heat, but also start off on a strong foot mentally. (That and watching SJD videos when I’m back of course 😉)

[@gosekinz]

Speed2 owner .. love PeBax !!!

[@philiprebel5671]

Endorphin speed 2 is my favorite shoe as of yet. Use them for daily road training and ran a half marathon pb (1:30) in them as well. Shout out to my wife bought me a pair of speed 2's for my birthday this year 🎉🎉

[@estebanmelendez1800]

Just ran my first marathon on my speed 1. These are the best. QD: just run before sun comes out. We don't have summer or winter down here though. Greetings from CR

[@PBnJ213]

The Saucony Speed 2 are my best overall Running shoes I have owned and run in so far. It does not provide too much stability but it's just the perfect balance and is the swiss army knife shoe than can do it all for me. Can't wait to get the 3 once my current pairs is torched - although this will take a while since Saucony outlast all my other shoes in the rotation.

[@asphethl]

In Singapore 🇸🇬, we have summer all year round. I get up at 5 and finish running by 7 before sunrise to avoid the heat. We are a country where people wear flip flops and shorts everywhere.

[@mcsorleypeter]

Had 1 pair speed 1, and 2 pairs speed 2. I love them

[@runningqrew]

Hey Seth! wanted to know what the weather is like where you're from. Where I am, its supposed to reach the hundreds next week! Gonna have to do some real early morning training!

[@frankjaucot6846]

Heavier runner here at 85kg, Speed 2‘s are by far the best shoe I’ve ever run in, fit is great, even for wider feet, responsive and bouncy, super light and comfortable, not great on wet tar but not many shoes are tbh, just ordered another pair before they are gone.

[@RobertHarridge]

QD: Training in Florida heat and humidity is rough in the summer. Early morning’s before the sun comes up, or late evenings as the sun is going down. Also, slowing the pace down, even on faster workouts. On a long run, don’t be afraid to stop frequently to hydrate and stretch, as cramping is typically more common in hot weather. No shame in the stopping game.

[@shawnozbun]

I'm currently running in both the speed 2 and pro 2. Love them both.

[@boshiken4914]

I have the speed 2 and love them… hoping the 3 is even better.

[@natashapucillo9715]

I have 2 pairs of the speed 2! I purchased my second pair during the memorial day sale as they were only $100!!!

[@cmyk94]

Still shredding a pair of 2’s here! Ran a half in them last weekend.

[@OneTouch1980]

QD: I learned something this past weekend when we ran during RAGNAR Colorado in Snowmass as it was in the mid 80s up there. Going out in the heat is much easier when you soak your shirt in ice water as well as any headgear you might be wearing. I also had a soaking wet cold buff around my neck. It was so much more comfortable to run in the heat as your shirt is basically a evaporative cooler. And then when you finish your run in the heat, taking a nice cold shower. I remember watching Jim Walmsley running Western States with that Hoka bucket hat and he said it actually worked great for keeping him cool with it being soaked in ice water and having some ice under the hat.

[@JP11277]

I have over 650 miles in the 1s (still wear them once in a while on non technical trails), and two pairs of the 2's. These are my personal favorite line. Not saying these are "review proof" but i mean Seth would have to really hate them for me to even consider not buying them... and i probably still might...

[@Ligerpride]

I live in Dublin, Ireland. There isn't any need for a summer strategy. We don't get (relatively) cold winters but our summers are practically non-existent.

[@shakeyshep]

mutants 875miles, future black 950miles, new yorkers 120 and just received my 4th pair. best shoe for all training needs

[@mitchellatkins9701]

I just bought Speed 2 for just under $100 in Thailand. I love to get the good older shoes at cheaper prices when they are on the out

[@raymondmorrow7926]

I bought the Speed 1 and loved it, I did not get the regular Speed 2 but I picked up the Run Sheild. I picked up the Pro 2's recently when RW had the sale on them for Memorial Day for $120.

[@maximilianklein2062]

run before work if works starts at 6, get up at 4, long runs on the weekend only

[@vincewarne228]

I have the Speed 2, also had the Pro 2 and for me I could've just used the Speed 2 for everything, wasn't so much of a difference fore the 2s. I think the 3s there is a real difference now between Speed and Pro (look forward to that review).

[@andytodd8136]

Hi Seth I usually buy last year's model to try keep costs down, so when the speed2 launched I bought the 1s, I love them and I think when time comes to replace them I'll try find another pair of mk 1s unless you test something with a similar feel but significantly better improvements as time and tech move forward, GDR strong, keep believing.

[@bjarnerasschaert8417]

Going in the sauna helps a lot!

[@GotDamBoi]

We have had 1 day over 75 degrees this year, and it was in early April lol. Summer doesn't really come around here until after July 4 and even then it rarely hits 90. So I don't even worry about heat, one of the few perks of PNW weather

[@jimmy6407]

I’ve used both Speed 1 and 2 for ultra distances on some wide gravel courses (no rocks/roots). I’ve used the Next% and Endorphin Pro for marathons, but with the slower pace in an ultra I felt like it was a better choice (response for racing and cushion for 50k/50Mi). I also like them for my tempo work, or long runs with intervals.

[@iambrent]

QD: I start my run before sunrise at civil twilight to avoid excessive heat and uv rays. Also bring along water or Gatorade and drink 8 oz every 4 miles. On days where the heat/humidity is just too much I crush a workout on the treadmill.

[@Tybell350]

I like to hear that the Speed 3 plate feels a little more flexible, I honestly feel that the ride from the Speed 1 to the Speed 2 got worse, I still go for my 1s over my 2s. Can’t wait to pick up some 3s!

[@davidohearn8047]

Same man! I snagged 2 pairs of the 2s on the Memorial Day sale they just had. I’ll be ready for the 3 next year.

[@catanachos]

Great rewiew! I have Saucony speed 2 and I love them…now I cant figure out for next step: Saucony endorphin plus, speed 3 or pro3…my distance half marathon.

[@irritablearchitect]

I think I'm on my third pair of Endo Speeds, currently the V2. Always very happy to run in them, except when it's wet.

[@danny-rws]

QD: This area of central California is typically well over 100 degrees at the daytime high for most of the summer. I run at 4:30am a few days a week to beat the heat and the intense sunshine. However I personally dont always try to escape the heat as i feel occasionally you have to embrace those hot conditions.

[@KoIhara]

I ran through 2 pairs of Speed 1 to do all my long runs in, and ended up buying a pair of Speed 2 so that I’d have a fresh pair for a marathon. Couldn’t tell much difference between 1 and 2, but really liked the “mutant” color way used in 1.

[@christopherregan1383]

QD: Training for NYC Marathon (2nd marathon) over the summer. My strategy is to get out early to try and beat the heat. As you say just need to keep turning that doorknob at 5 am knowing the fall weather will feel so good and the work was put in come race day.

[@CornEffect]

I bought the speed 2 a month ago and only put 12 miles on them. That squishy heel feels too unstable for my midfoot stride and the Speed 3 looks like it's about the same. Bummer. Looking forward to the Triumph update. That's a personal thing for me, but the rest of the shoe feels like heaven.

[@PaddockGuru]

QOD: wake up early, before dawn, we normally are above 60% humidity and 30-35 by 9 am. I liked the original better than the 2, they are pretty similar but never found them identical, had to go half size up on the 2.

[@joanh.2365]

I try to train very early in the morning, for many people should be possible unless you work in the night shift.

[@christopherlevesque5203]

Summer heat strategy is to get out as early as possible, and constant hydration. Lastly make sure I slow the heck down!

[@the1ofus]

QD: Wake up early (7:30) and run with my friends. Even though it's early it's still like 80 (28c). But it's a good strategy to get it out of the way so I don't have to run when it's 100 degrees later

[@MatsSambu]

Can't wait for this shoe!

[@bigshotz1240]

I skipped the 2 because it was practically identical. I am ready for the softer 3 though.

[@1man1year150]

I've been waiting for this one. I'm currently waiting for these to come out so I can try them on before I buy. I try to give every company a fair shot but my recent experiences with hoka Have not been good because they just fall apart way too easily. The soul breaks down way too fast the rubber underneath the foot wears away too fast and the upper literally literally had a hole in both pairs that I've bought within just a couple of weeks. Is my experience with saucony However has been the exact opposite. I had the triumph 18 and literally put and literally put 1300 miles into those before they were shot. I currently have the speed too and have put 400 on those and and they still have a lot of life left. The rubber on the bottom still has plenty of miles to go which I'm very happy with. If these shoes were not so expensive anymore I wouldn't complain but complain but buying mach 4 At 150 bucks And seeing a whole pop up up in the Achilles part of the upper as fast as I did for the 2nd time just does not make me want to buy them ever again. I also had the rincon 2 which were very comfortable but again again the soul broke down way too fast and holes in the upper within 2 weeks. I also want to make sure I mention I only wear them for running. I'm not putting daily everyday you smiles on them so it kind of sucks when you feel like you're just throwing money in the trash like that.

[@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183]

I’ve been through a few pairs of Endo Speeds-both v.1 and 2. It’s been my HM and full marathon race shoe and from early indications I’ll probably enjoy v.3, though I’m also very interested in the ASICS Edge+, which could be a first CP shoe that might work for me. QD: Getting out early. In the Rockies it’s not as hot as much of the country, plus it’s dry heat. However, the sun is very strong in the mountains and I try not to get the peak exposure. Martha

[@JeremyGiese]

QD: I like evening runs(always liked working out in the evenings also). Did it last night even tho still in the 90s here in Ohio, didn’t have to deal with the blistering sun to make it much much more tolerable to run.

[@marks4096]

Nice I live in Ohio too

[@JeremyGiese]

@@marks4096 O-H ! I live the northeast around the Cleveland area

[@marks4096]

I’m on the west side of cle

[@JeremyGiese]

@@marks4096 nice! I’m down in Medina

[@michite7435]

QOD. Treadmill runs! I'm way slower on the treadmill than the roads. (Maybe my treadmill needs recalibration) I'm about 3min/miles slower on the treadmill. I hate running in the heat. So it will probably be a few months before I do an outdoor run. Unless I wake up before the sun comes up.

[@jjchang9874]

Run here in Philippines everyday is like summer so I usually run by 5 am. 3 or 4 am if it's long run.

[@Anza_34832]

Got better insulated windows in this house? I remember the paper thin “windows” in your old house. Construction quality of US houses really is a thing of its own. Only bearable when the climate allows for it and/or heating is darn cheap.

[@kiwirevo]

I got the speed 2s, my first saucony, and I get heal slippage which means I can't take them past 10kms with risking a blister. They feel fast and I enjoy them for the shorter runs but really disappointed, no review I've seen has had that issue. I'm glad I got them on discount but very unlikely I'll ever buy saucony again... Guess my foot doesn't work with their lasts.

[@aviyarlagadda5029]

are any of the endorphin speeds viable as daily trainers?

[@brandongalluppi3194]

QD: Run in the heat and reap the benefits in the fall when it cools down 😀

[@tobiasrundinschrder7492]

I just bougt 5 pairs of the Speed 2's. I havent any prior experience of bulking up so I need your guys input. How would you store the shoes not in use in order to preserve them(midsole)?

[@lanam9127]

Do you have some kind of shoe guide playlist/video? Explaining to beginners when you where what type of shoe, why, etc?

[@briantierney5183]

QD: I train a little intensely in the summer months. I try to run earlier or later in the day...

[@thomascroshaw3711]

I try to beat the heat. I get up early when it is cool. If I am forced to run in the heat I loose the shirt, put on sunscreen and get through it.

[@geoffb2900]

Summer Run Strategy: Run early to beat the heat!

[@martindattus7064]

Starting early in the morning at 6 a.m, since later it really heat up, regards from NYC.

[@DarkinJinx]

Just ran a half marathon pb in the speed 1's💪😍

[@bradleywall2246]

PLEASE Update the running warehouse link to the Hoka Mach 4! I want to support the channel but it says the link no longer exists. Want to make sure when I buy them you get your cut! DGR!

[@aborch1]

That color way reminds my of Beast from X-Men. - I might go and buy another pair of the Speed 2 half the price instead

[@KoIhara]

:qod: not exactly an answer to your QD Seth, but it reminded me about the press attention that the Japanese athlete Suguru Osako got during the Tokyo Olympics Marathon for frequently swapping caps at aid stations. The rumor was that the cap provided by Asics to the Japanese athletes had some pocket to hold ice. This sounds like a great idea and boggles my head as to why they don’t productive this stuff.

[@JoshL84]

The Speed 3 looks like it would be more enjoyable for longer training runs.

[@jakemartinez1354]

Live in Arizona and have done many runs/long runs in the 110 plus heat with a scorcher of a sun and you just gotta grab your cajones and get after it. Unlimited salt potassium and water.

[@davidrosenthal5795]

Your cute with your heat and low humidity. Just adorable. Hahahha

[@jakemartinez1354]

@@davidrosenthal5795 lol humidity isn’t even bad 117 with your skin frying off that’s bad 😂 also have you heard of monsoon season? Try 90% humidity at 117 and see how that taste

[@johnmaloney2016]

That was some pretty zesty music Seth! Thank you!!

[@Feanaro5503]

Saw some reviews saying the angled heels on the 3 cause blisters.

[@caddchambers950]

Go Avs Go!

[@antonioromulodelcarmen283]

On point with that color block, thinking the designer was probably looking at that Smurf girl (Smurfette) when he/she decided to go with that blue/yellow combo.🤦🏻‍♂️😂🤣… still a 🔥🔥🔥 shoe though. Just gonna wait for better colorways and enjoy the Speed 2 at the moment.

[@jacobreesmontgomery]

my strategy is to complain a lot ab it and occasionally soak my hat in water

[@jason.rams4]

QD- run at 5:30 am. The only time of day I can fit in a run during the week.

[@paddywiggle]

I have had two pairs if Speed 2, in size 13 and 14 😅 the 14s were a lot better. I regret the 13s

[@aquarauis694]

What you think saucony speed 2 for USD80? Also for summer its difficult to manage but one can increase a day of running while compromising speed by 5-8% and also distance? Just spread it over the days.. Increase water intake and Carbs slightly as they help in retaining water

[@ar26k9]

QD: Strategy for running here in San Antonio is suck it up and replenish with electrolytes.

[@ronny282]

QD: Waking up extra early. If you want it, go get it. All it takes is extra discipline 💪🏼

[@wnegrini]

I have the Speed 1! Saucony lost the hand on the colorways hahaha

[@solefreak2]

At what sort of miles are you guys retiring your Speeds? I've got 2 pairs of the Speed 1's at approx. 500 and 400 miles.

[@SuperAloeFresh]

I definitely run significantly less lol. It’s been insanely hot this week and into next week and I can’t even make it 3 miles. Heat index over 100 until about 10pm. Too much for me lol

[@MrMusick]

QOD: Run at 4:20am! Bakersfield, CA gets HOTTTT!!!

[@lexington476]

QD: like Nike says, just do it! I actually raced a bike race last night in like 95 degree heat, yeah I got lapped twice 😀.