2019 BMW M2 Competition | The Throwback Machine

[@pshhyeahh]

3 years later, this is still the only "newer" BMW worth getting.

[@ThrottleHouse]

18:36 “this wants to go sideways.” It does indeed. Come and try it on our track you silly goose :)

[@MrAlansordo]

Savagegeese and Throttle house. How would you guys compare this car to the gt350? Which car comes on top?

[@rileygifford1596]

I am also curious to know what you think about this

[@kylenewberry8598]

M2 vs Supra vid ;)

[@lourenco121]

​@@kylenewberry8598 One shouldn't really compare a 2019 M2 Comp DCT $61,800 to a 2020 Supra Auto $49,990 since there is a noticeable price difference. The Supra exhaust note sounds good while the m2 is just ok. M2 has more top end, but the Supra is smaller and weighs much less. I will take a Supra over the M2 and I own a 2016 M3 since I want a smaller car. M2 comp also could have a spun crank hub failure when modded with an e85 tune like any other s55 engine. Supra should make 400whp with stage 2 tune while the M2 Comp with stage 1 will make 464whp and 494wtq. I still would buy the Supra even with the less hp potential since it should be more fun and more reliable.

[@MozzaBurger88]

@@justin2956 Eat a snickers maybe? Or take a chill pill if you're on a diet.

[@ivansvintsitsky8787]

I love what tri Industry is doing. Great mission.

[@aaron5222]

I agree. As someone who was hurt during recruit training and unable work some jobs to have a place like this for others is awesome! Brings awareness to the situation as well

[@hmackprotection1]

Ivan Svintsitsky 🎯Exactly. Right On 👊🏾

[@treeightoh3003]

5 years later this is still the best looking M car

[@wisdumb8570]

I can afford this one day, and I will. Until I can own the LFA, this will become my daily driver soon. I just need to straighten up first. Love everyone, stay safe y'all.

[@seanpoore500]

What are we daily’n in 2023 wisdumb?

[@itchster33]

We need an update

[@David-gr1do]

@@itchster33it may be disappointing

[@williammccusker4288]

2024?????

[@The_Top_Gun.]

What we driving in 2024?

[@WhiteBoardFinance]

I drove in one of these last Saturday. The guy selling me my 2003 540 M Sport just bought it and took me for a spin. Very nice.

[@nexushexus4365]

Spreak engrwish

[@machtschnell7452]

540M Sport is a nice drive.

[@WhiteBoardFinance]

@@machtschnell7452 it's peak BMW 5 Series in my opinion. Fit, finish, quality, power, everything

[@bobespnza-la7030]

You’re on this channel??? Nice

[@FATmenDRIVEtrucks]

I love seeing the car and financial channels together

[@steveadp]

I own one with the Manual, and Ive tracked it several times on several tracks. If you leave the MDM mode ON, the diff does a great job of keeping it straight and not oversteer as you mentioned. You have to be a little patient with the gas. I noticed in the video you are get on the gas early in the turn. I find trail braking and going to gas later is how the car wants to be driven. I came from tracking a 911, and I think this car is a perfect balance for street and track. With Michelin Cup 2's, I think it will be that much better. I have made no modifications, all stock set up. I love how BMW tuned the torque. Its very linear in its delivery. I think its a great all around package, albeit its a heavy car at 3600 lbs. Oh and the tiny gas tank means Im always filling it up.

[@8teate]

Do you really experience the weight as a problem in corners?

[@steveadp]

@@8teate a bit, but under heavy braking you feel it.

[@tractorback76]

About to pull the trigger on one with the auto and I plan on hammering it around COTA etc with some 200tw tires on it

[@teddybburns]

Do you happen to know how the M2 Competition compares to the previous gen M2 for handling?

[@steveadp]

@@teddybburns I have more experience with M2C but have driven the OGM2 and I would say besides the engine, the handling is better in all aspects. I 've heard it uses all the same hardware but the tuning is very different. Less body roll, and better dampening on the road. The M2 Comp can be tracked with no mods, may need to change brake fluid and eventually pads depending how often you track. Never tracked OGM2 but depending on your skill level not sure how much you notice. Im certain a more experienced driver could beat times of M2C in a OGM2. If the money doesn't matter go M2C.

[@therealgriizz7736]

I have to say, what you do with tri-industries is amazing keep up the good work. Just purely doing it to HELP others which you never see anymore. Guess that’s why we love you.

[@basithph8958]

The M2 is definitely one of my dream BMWs especially with the manual transmission

[@chinaxly8496]

MGTOW = 'I am an incel'

[@m4zcp88]

Go MGTOW = I’m a loser with no job and low income, that’s why “Go MGTOW”

[@ZuluAlphaParamedic]

Most MGTOW men are burnt by divorce courts and have lost mostly everything and the added burden of child support. I understand why they choose that path. I have a distant friend who is doing it after he got divorced and he is making good money and has zero worries outside of work. The guys above me are cringe and clueless. Plenty of people leaching the system that do not work or barely work and are married with kids. Just go to your local ghetto. The people who have many kids with a minimum wage salary gets pity. Lmfao, get real.

[@basithph8958]

Vicar Loyce lol I’m not trying to get minimum wage salary😂

[@ZuluAlphaParamedic]

BASITH PH That is good. I’m not MGTOW myself, but I see my co-workers get comfortable and spend their whole paycheck the day they get it. No vision for the future or saving to invest for their career. My cousin just got some girl pregnant while working as a barista at Starbucks. Really sad, I am 19, but do not make the same mistakes. Peace.

[@RB_CO]

Thank you to Tri Industies for stepping up and taking care of the people who deserve it the most.

[@milanmitrovic9560]

The fact that Todd actually dresses up and acts out those end-of-video skits is amazing. What a gem.

[@taylormoats2099]

I appreciate your tour of the chassis in your reviews. Most don't pay attention to the engineering behind the character.

[@raygotz1069]

Still one of my favorite cars I have ever owned, now has double the horse power from the factory (turbos ugpraded), coilovers, and stickier wider tires and its a blast. Absolutely livable back seats and useable trunk and its a dream for a daily driver. I think the M2 CS gets all the hype because they not only gave it the looks but they also uncorked the motor and gave it the power the M2C should have received.

[@domteewhy52]

Made my donation. I love that such and awesome car channel found a unique sponsorship like this. As a veteran, I like when things have more than one appeal. Keep up the awesome work!

[@reshelby4178]

My brother just purchased this car in grey. He loves it. It does remind me of my e46 m3 which I owned years ago. The dual clutch is worlds better than the smg I had on my car

[@jordanbell4420]

Its almost exactly the same size as the E46, unlike the other M cars, which are about the same size as Rhode Island.

[@hlf_coder6272]

Richard Shelton Any idea how long it took to arrive from order to delivery? I just ordered one 3 weeks ago, but the delivery date seems to be somewhat of a mystery. The only thing the dealer told me was that it would be by December. (but possibly months sooner). So I have no idea if it will be Labor Day or Christmas. lol. Thanks in advance.

[@Jkan2001]

You can’t get a m2 competition in grey

[@Jkan2001]

hlf_coder you probably just got put in the order bank waiting list if they can’t tell you your production date. If you have an actual allocation they should know the production date

[@hlf_coder6272]

@@Jkan2001 Ya I think you're right, and I know it varies from person to person based on a lot of different factors, but I was just hoping to get a buyer to tell me how long it took for them to get off the list, placed into production and ultimately receive the car. Something like, "I ordered in January and took delivery in May" or something similar. (Btw, I think he's referring to the Hockenheim Silver when he said "gray". I've seen a few other people make the same mistake)

[@MozzaBurger88]

5:40 You must be the only reviewer that actually produces a test of a car's audio system and I thank you wholeheartedly for that. It's something that matters to me and you just made me feel "eh" about the M2 in 3 short seconds there. I care about my music.

[@savagegeese]

I will have a video about that soon!

[@Kittievr]

5:41 is what I've been waiting for. Thank you for catering us to weird audiophile's.

[@csdstudio78]

we're not weird. we're just discerning and suck at parties because we criticize the sound system until we leave.

[@Kittievr]

@@csdstudio78 and cringe at work trucks for shit speakers and the angle of them lol

[@savagegeese]

I'll have a video talking about this more soon. But in the short term Ill have graphs.

[@csdstudio78]

@@savagegeese Even the graphs are very telling! I thought the BOSE system in my Mazda was OK until I turn it up, hurts my friggen ears. Frequency response graphs can reveal areas of harshness our ears/brain can't quite decipher. Appreciate the effort!

[@Kittievr]

@@savagegeese I enjoy the graphs. Your top notch and the only one in that space, that's why I love this channel.

[@AutoWerkMedia]

This is the first car that I've driven that excites me the way my e30 used to. I drive cars of all makes and models...and every single one of them makes me long to get back behind the wheel of an M2. There's been a lot of hype around it since it came out, and still it delivers. I've got nearly 15k miles on mine since I bought it a year ago, and the smiles just keep coming. Great video, and thanks for sharing the mission of Tri-Industries. Our country needs more great folks like them.

[@nomadben]

@Archimedes Do you think that was always the case? I feel like their simpler cars from the 90s aren't quite as problematic, but I don't have any first-hand experience with them.

[@ShaiyanHossain]

The only BMW left in their lineup that fulfills what a BMW should be imo

[@MicrosoftSam92]

The M140i is also great

[@ShaiyanHossain]

@@MicrosoftSam92 not sold in the US :/ and the new 1 series is a FWD hatch like everything else :/

[@Kittievr]

The oil cooler and the aluminum skid plate are really nice.

[@ryanb8736]

It’s funny when the original M2 came out, all the reviewers gave it amazing reviews. Now that the Comp is out, all the reviewers are now complaining about the issues with the original M2 and that it didn’t feel special. I don’t know who to believe anymore.

[@QuickQuips]

Trust these guys and Mr Regular.

[@Enthusiastlist]

The regular M2 sucks.

[@mattyp3119]

I drive an M2. They are special.

[@wthisdaftpunk6847]

@@mattyp3119 Do you think it’s enough of an upgrade over an E92 M3?

[@Jlaw01]

@@wthisdaftpunk6847 that's such a hard question... I have drove both, the 2 series is literally a smaller version of a 3 series. First of all they are much different generations. I hate the sound of the s55 in the m2 comp and the s65 is a high revving v8, enough said in that regard. Its faster, smaller, more fun around turns, looks better in my opinion, is much more reliable, has that daily driving factor even though its smaller, its everything you could want in a sports car. However, its simply missing that v8 feel. The M2 is simply a better car in almost every way possible mechanically, would I still get one over an e92m3, I don't know. If you want to beat on it, have fun without worry, daily drive it, get this. If you want a car that puts a smile on everyones face based off the sound alone, get the m3. If you held a gun to my head, I couldn't tell you which I would rather have. Sound means so much to be when it comes to cars, and the s55 just is not it, its better in almost every single way so I will ask you this, how much does sound mean to you? How much does that raw emotional connection with your car mean to you?

[@ryanlittleton5615]

Literally the only current BMW I'd want to own.

[@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt]

When BowelMovementW makes a car that can remotely compete with a ZL1, they will have a car worth owning

[@ryanlittleton5615]

@@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt I thought it was "Big Mexican Women".

[@andeleputo89]

TasteMyStinkhole let us know when chevrolSHIT makes anything that can even compete against a Ford Gt or a Mclaren

[@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt]

@@andeleputo89 Looking at the childrens shit on your channel, I see why you're so criminally stupid.

[@machtschnell7452]

@@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt Come back in 3 years if the ZL1(?) is still running. Maybe you missed the part where the M2C never overheated?

[@Michael_303]

I haven't seen a shit-eating-grin in a SG review video in quite a while.

[@GlennsCarCollection]

I had my 6 speed manual M2 for 3 years, great car. I ordered one of the first M2 Comps built and it arrived at my dealer in August of 2018. Unfortunately the trade in value of my 2016 M2 dropped to $35k, the new M2 Comp with a 6 speed manual was $61k before tax, $65k with tax. Is the M2 Comp better, yes of course, but it wasn’t worth my car plus $30k to me, so I kept my M2. A used M2 is a bargain with prices in the $35-40k price range for 2016 models. Both are great cars, you can’t go wrong with either.

[@TheNondiscriminatory]

Well sure. One should buy a car with the intention of keeping it- of owning it at least. The resale value should be the very very last thing on your mind, with driving the piss out of it (and how that makes you feel) being the first.

[@rembo183]

Glenns Car Collection Ok you got a trade in value of $35k what could you get in private sale? I think retail would be higher depending on miles and condition? Low mileage ones are selling in $40’s at dealership. Of course they jack up prices from the trade offer to make profits.

[@rembo183]

Glenns Car Collection - I totally agree with you! I just purchased a Bullitt for $52 after tax etc. The new M2 Comp. is great but very expensive like another $15. Too much for me.

[@coopsnz1]

You don't know what you're talking about , Germany Corporation lost 5% net profit in 2 month , BMW hasn't gain net profit in 20 yrs

[@kevinclark1482]

@Archimedes and what exactly do you drive?

[@fatbaldandhappy]

"Sound system pulled from a Daewoo Leganza" This is why I subscribe. Dang I needed that laugh!

[@brockb6]

sad thing, the statement is very true. first thing i noticed in my BMW

[@sunmin0316]

I wonder if its really that bad

[@rust3dsteel]

@@brockb6 Yes. Somewhat maddening to have this on a car priced like these are.

[@Jigsaw1988]

I drove a M4 last week, it's the same story there. Horrible sound system. My 2002 M5 has a better soundsystem. You'd expect in 15 years they should have come up with something better. But no

[@paulcs2607]

If you think Beats headphones sound good, the yes, the HK is rubbish. But if you have a real HiFi at home and know what a good sound is, there's nothing wrong with the HK system in the M2C. Anyway, what do I know, ask Chris Harris - a proper audiophile who owns an M2C.

[@leslie7872]

the proportions on this car are amazing. i think its the ideal style for a sports car

[@fhowland]

The audio quality on this review is amazing. That opening music montage was beautiful.

[@diggleboy]

ROFL at the outtro 80's Corvette retro! Pager, sailor cap and the hungry- bum-too-high-on-the-waist shorts. The 80's. You had to be there to get this one. Lol!

[@timothycc711]

TODDD Is the funniest!

[@toutsen]

Haven’t seen you smile like that in a while! After that first highway pull, when it cuts from the instrument panel to your face, the sly grin on your face said it all. I could hear your inner monologue screaming, “Yeah, I just hit a buck forty and the car is barely breaking a sweat. Fuck yeah!” We all know that feeling when you drive something so special that you are literally laughing to yourself. That’s the mark of a one of a kind car you will always remember driving.

[@devjyarn]

I just tried to watch a car review from another channel after really digging into your library over the past few weeks, and I had to stop only a few minutes in. I really enjoy your approach to you reviews, and I value the same things in automobiles that you do. Thanks for doing what you do.

[@TheChannel1978]

So true. Most reviewers are sponsored, it is such a breath of fresh to have SG reviews, by enthusiasts for enthusiasts without the advertising/lies

[@pascutia]

Thank you for doing a review on this car. I love that you guys pointed out how it’s not watered down. It’s one of the last truly analogue sports cars out there!

[@nessuno5403]

Then they make the CS and add heavy adaptive suspension 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@TheSpread1]

I bought a manual 2021 M2C over the Supra and C8 corvette and I feel like I made the right decision.

[@fabianherrmann6398]

Love it, especially the intro, smooth music with plenty of car beauty shots!

[@cjcavanagh6130]

I'm most impressed by those nice looking Illinois back roads, I thought those were non-existent!

[@BrunoSCot777]

In a world where all are trying to hide or use fake exhaust, BMW is aggressive and veracious on their proposal.

[@leokal457]

I love these reviews but I'm desperatly waiting for more fine print! When do we get more of it? It is so interesting to hear such things from somebody who actually experienced all this stuff!

[@savagegeese]

In next few weeks. On a leave right nowm

[@jeffk412]

so much love to your work! From support for TRI, to the thoughtful and insightful discussion, to the excellent video construction. You are one of the very best. Cheers!

[@euroatomic]

Long time subscriber here... I ordered one 4 months ago and will be picking it up in Munich in mid August. I had 7 Miatas, a bunch of 944s and quite a few other cult cars. Hoping this will be the end game for me. They wouldn't let me drive one so I ordered based on reviews. Yours was by far the best one. Thank you for always bringing us quality content!

[@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt]

-->"I had 7 Miatas" Does your boyfriend know you're gay?

[@dylanherriman1306]

Best car reviews on KZbin by a country mile

[@bougieweightlifting]

Best in class review

[@worldwide_will]

That grin 17:08 after that acceleration is priceless.

[@skg5]

This car also has usable back seats you forgot to mention. I can fit a car seat in mine no problem. Great review!

[@carswithsanford540]

great, brutally honest review! I'd love to watch your future review on the m2 cs. Can't wait.

[@timmietz]

Too bad that the CS will be only 94 lbs lighter and 45hp more. I was hoping for 3250 lbs like the new GT4

[@koji.m4014]

The 2-Series couple will be missed, have my doubts about the Mexican built next gen model. This design will be ageless.

[@infidel900rr]

These M2's have barely depreciated... still high $50k's to 60's. Been waiting for them to drop, but realizing it might never happen.

[@mudgatebronn4438]

I love how Jack's arms always hang straight down, completely lifeless :P

[@Ethan7s]

Asian turbowski is so much more informative than turbowski classic.

[@mdcohen]

Less homophobic too.

[@tysonbear]

Homophobic too.

[@masterkendro]

I really wish you guys would review this generation CS, i just bought one of these, and i love it. I owned a OG LCI and honestly when i pay the comp off i want a OG to daily. While expensive, its truly a bargain when compared to the competition, no regrets, get you one, either this or an OG, and you won't regret it, these things are sweet.

[@scubarubanzaii]

“It feels like it should have 50-60 less horsepower” in terms of how it feels power wise. That’s good. It’s also funny because that’s where the regular M2 sits exactly, so it seems they did okay at first. 😂

[@akkando]

Except he didn't like that car, too many buttons or something.

[@Shiftndrive]

I must have been sleeping under a rock as I just discovered your channel savagegeese. It is amazing! Love the quality of the footage (the cinematographic level) as well as the level of auto-tech related content and your dialog. Keep it up!

[@Suction_]

Savagebmw here with another BMW review

[@arqvtec]

Como siempre, excelente fotografía, edición y prueba. Felicitaciones!

[@zephead843]

Thump, thump, thump along the back roads of Illinois.

[@MozzaBurger88]

Right? You can tell it isn't a land boat over bad IL pavement 😁

[@Steeyuv]

The title says it all - 'the throwback machine'. It's a straight-6 petrol engined monster. I love mine! But it's already history.

[@davidking4009]

The dude sounds like a administrative robot! Please bring back turbowoski!

[@imsteevin]

I bought one 2 years ago and still really love it. Its held value well so far but i dont really plan on selling it.

[@brandondan1]

Interesting you mentioned m2 comp feels like it has about 50 more hp than it needs, which makes it tailhappy. I think the original m2 is possibly better balanced overall.

[@Sr7Sr7Sr7]

This couldn’t have come at a more perfect time... I am looking at this car.

[@digitalskala]

Hey geeseman! You should make a regular M3/4 Competition video, would love to hear your input on those machines.

[@jjlad5037]

Back to form...the best reviews in the industry.

[@R0adsterr0land]

You take your own audio system measurements? Your just too damn good.

[@tvieso]

One of the best comprehensive reviews I'm seen of the M2 Comp. Thanks for the upload.

[@parusds]

love that guy in the end!

[@MitchMatrixx]

Savage Geese: Now featuring even more PREMIUM! New look, same great taste! Production value keeps going up, and up... Wish list: 1) This car 2) Catless DP 3) X-pipe to get rid of that ridonk resonator 4) Flip that muffler upside-down so it doesn’t hang like cow utters 5) Stage 2 tune 6) New tires every 5k miles

[@chrismunsey3185]

This is the best car BMW has made since the E-46 M3 in my opinion.👌🏽

[@john_c1]

I love your car reviews. As always the level of detail and involvement is amazing. Thank you guys

[@ctsean]

Just for the record, the suspension in the M2C is exactly the same as the M2. Same shocks, same struts, same springs, same control arms (all with same part #s).

[@MyWatchTherapy]

I am SO impressed with this KZbin channel! Amazing. No other car reviewers have done this kind of partnership that is not just for the KZbin channels benefit. Thank you.

[@JesusGonzalez-kh8df]

I had captions on and when you were flooring it the captions said [Music] and it could not have been morr accurate

[@Rb-sg5zi]

I love these guys. Thanks for reviving my love for car reviews.

[@norbo002]

I appreciate your style.

[@reinaldoreyes5631]

Manual M2C owner. Driving impressions were SPOT ON!

[@Gorilla_Jones]

BMW is brilliant, Let's stretch out our product line and move them all into a higher cost bracket with performance versions. It's literally the same fucking car, with a waft of nostalgia. Brilliant.

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

their biggest joke is the 8 series, it's just a 5 series with different looks but in a completely different price range and everyone compares it to the S-class just because they gave it a higher number...

[@TomHiel]

Mgoblagulkablong completely false information. The 8 series has nothing to de with the 5 series. It's also standing on its own platform. It's a stand alone model. 7 years ago, the 6 series was indeed a 5 series. Next year the new 9 series will compete with Maybach. I cannot understand your issue with price setting. Who cares about the price when you can pay 200.000 to 250.000€ for a car. 🤷‍♂️ You are definitely not a costumer in this price range. Otherwise you should not care about that. 😏 So just enjoy watch these beauties on the road. 😉

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

@@TomHiel en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_CLAR_platform

[@Gorilla_Jones]

@@TomHiel Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about. Price is paramount, anyone who says this doesn't know how people of means keep their money. Also, these ever creeping price increases down the range cause the lower tier vehicles to also creep up in price.

[@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt]

1. BowelMovementW doesn't make a performance car. They make sport luxury cars. 2. If you want to see what snorting a pound of cocaine does to car prices, look no further than the Nissan GT-Darrr. Once a performance bargain at $67k, it is now $120k, and best of all, Car & Driver proved that there is ZERO performance gain between a 2012 GT-Darrr and the 2017 GT-Darrr Track Edition. So Nissan was jacking the price through the roof while giving nothing in return. Lol. Clearly the d-bags at Nissan are still furious about Nagasaki and Hiroshima and this is their way of giving the US the middle finger

[@Jo-bt3xr]

Just saw one at parking lot when I went groceries the other day: same color, very cute and gorgeous looking car😍😍😍😍😍

[@smilepermile888]

Found it really informative hearing your thoughts on how the M2 Competition compares with the new Supra Mark. If Toyota provides you a Supra to do a longer in-depth review on, hope to hear your thoughts comparing the M2C again if you have some updated impressions. I guess the M2C's 'twichyness' or habit to oversteer compared to the new Supra could be to do with its narrower tyres front+rear. I wonder if the differential used in the Supra is identical to the one used in this M2C but programmed differently? Would BMW be generous enough to provide this S55 engine (or the S58 engine featured in the brand new X3M) to Toyota for their GRMN Supra version or whatever it'll be called..as that Supra has a shorter wheelbase than the 2011 BMW 1M coupe and the 86/BRZ, we could be looking at a deathtrap. Can't wait to see how the upcoming lightweight limited edition M2 CS/CSL will turn out.

[@lourenco121]

If BMW offers a BMW Z4 M version with a S58, I do see the Toyota Supra being offered with the S58 in that case. I don't see Toyota offering a Supra with a S58 without BMW stepping up first with a M version of the Z4. You also need to consider the price difference for the S58 powered Supra could be $16k more for the end customer since it's not just the engine being changed. You have to add bigger brakes, improve cooling, DCT trans, wider wheels, wider tires, improved suspension tuning to keep the balance and cooling needed with the increased power. The much higher price point will make it harder to sell, but it will be an unique small fun fast car.

[@oscarxms]

@@lourenco121 on paper, the Supra is faster 0-60 than the M2 competition. The Supra is a compelling package at a slightly better price tag, regardless of the M-Badge on this car. Comparisons to the Supra will be inevitable once the Supra gets in the hands of the press, after it is released to the public. It will be interesting to see, if Toyota can make a better BMW than BMW.

[@tomjones5166]

@@oscarxms The new supra is already the better BMW for me compared the Z4 since it's not a convertible and it's around $13k less compared to the z4. If you look at Cayman vs Boxster, you see there is small price difference of ~$2100 while the z4 vs supra has a big price gap. Toyota Supra already won compared to the Z4 if you don't want a convertible and don't need the bmw badge. I personally wouldn't buy a m2 over the supra since the m2 is a heavier car and bigger car with two extra seats that I don't need. While m2 is more practical, I like the Supra more since it's an affordable Cayman or affordable Z4 coupe.

[@lourenco121]

@@oscarxms I agree the new supra is exciting since it's a smaller sports car with great potential. I find there is more to a car in just hp and 0-60 numbers. I test drove the new BMW M2C and I decided it wasn't the car for me. Everyone has different tastes or wants in a cars. Reviews and comparisons are nice, but I find that I have to actually drive the car my self to get the real picture on how it feels to me. I found I liked the M3 over the M2 comp since I like the heavier steering effort found in the m3. M3 also felt more raw power wise. I am considering the Supra now since it's smaller car compared to the bmw m2/m3.

[@smilepermile888]

@@lourenco121 Yes no doubt, we'll see a Z4M Roadster if the Supra GRMN comes into fruition with the S58 engine, to probably be more competitive to the 718 Spyder and 718 Cayman GT4s. Granted the S58 may have more power+torque but those Porsches will still be quicker around corners so it could be a close comparison. And yes Tetsuya Tada enginner of the Supra+86 said that by adding power to the engine, it'll have an affect on the overall balance of the car, so you'll have to make changes to the rest of the car to compensate the increased acceleration +top speed performance. Aside from Toyota's collaboration with BMW, many stuck-up haters/trolls of the new Supra (including superspeedersrob who hasn't even driven the car yet) criticised its 'lack of power' (despite Car&Driver +MotorTrend quoting that the B58 is underrated on their dynos) and mentioned that they would be willing to spend more for 'better' performance. So maybe there could be enough demand for it, or they could actually be 12yr olds who jerk off to 2JZ Supras and Fast&Furious franchise who can't afford a cheap car.

[@101wrf]

It's not a $20,000 interior. Not butthurt this is just really off. Name a single $20,000 car with carbon fiber and metal trim, contrast stitching and perforated leather bucket seats, embroidered seat belts, 3 tone stitching on a leather steering wheel, and generous use of alcantara. You won't find that on even a $40,000 car. It's not the same interior as a $60,000 Lexus (and of course no Lexus drives as sporty), but no way it's a $20k interior. Other than that and the fact that the sound system is decent (not great but not terrible) and it's a good review. I love that you look at the mechanics and not just driving impressions! BTW I've owned BMW M235i, Lexus IS300, Lexus ES350, BMW 335is and the M2C. This has a nicer interior than all of those.

[@MaxSpeedMike]

I can't wait to see the s58 in the new m cars. The s55 just doesn't sound good

[@mcintosh.motors]

MaxSpeed N55 sounded better than S55 but S58 sounds decent so far in the new X3/4M

[@MaxSpeedMike]

@@mcintosh.motors I agree 110%!

[@MurrayTeeVee]

It sounds way better in the m2 then the m3/4

[@sweens.e36.f87]

I've only heard one s55 setup that actually sounded good. A big downfall for this engine.

[@MaxSpeedMike]

@@sweens.e36.f87 agreed

[@majedbineisa]

12:55 best acceleration face ever

[@chitterlingsrtasty]

Yeah, looked like he was nearing beginning of an orgasm. Very telling. For now nice the acceleration was

[@FlyinGato]

I am considering this M2 Comp or the new Supra as my next "fun" car. Also, noticed I come up in the "recommended" videos section at the end of the video :)

[@ShaiyanHossain]

Nice to see you here as well :)

[@timothycc711]

There are so many BMW's on the road. I'd probably get the Supra.

[@gh-cu1jh]

Man seeing those country Illinois back roads in your videos bring a smile to me because I leave the city limits of Chicago were I live sometimes with my buddies to just rip around our cars.

[@jsnadrian]

"Don't have to go 140mph to be sideways" and "130mph in 3 seconds" .. i feel Without Scott Turbowki's judge of speed is a little off.

[@Gjeebs]

Donated! Great cause and solid company. Happy to do it

[@TedwardDrives]

Constant throttle oversteer really ruins the experience. The Z4 felt so planted in comparison.

[@akkando]

What about some wider tires? Only has 265 in rear.

[@TedwardDrives]

@@akkando It would certainly help, and like the goose said, a 200 treadwear tire would reduce this behavior, but that's just not what I'd want in a DD/Track Day car. It really feels like a tuner car in regards to power/torque delivery.

[@pballer2005]

I choose Jack to be the narrator for my life.

[@TurboS-gh5wc]

The only car i'd consider selling my S2000 for. I'd also pick it over the new Supra NO QUESTION

[@gm3353]

I think the lift segments are the best part of the SG videos.

[@michaelgrant5258]

No Axe body spray dispenser? No buy!

[@shahulhusman]

I run a Mercedes Benz dealer.. And order our cars.. I never order that option lol.. Its ridiculous

[@timothycoyne5874]

Right! For $60K, it should at least be Polo or Obsession. ;-)

[@MrVara411]

Really liked Scott's input. Very informative.

[@Affalterbach1967]

0:18 lingerie blue metallic on the M2 is my third favorite BMW blue, much better than the porta-potty blue on the recent Yas Marina M3/M4. Smurf blue on the e46 is my second favorite. What's my favorite blue BMW ? You'll need to subscribe to find out.

[@rickfowler5726]

I’ve seen many M2 comp reviews and not one person talks bad about it. I’m strongly thinking of getting one. Thanks for your non biased opinion/review as always. You have a sub 👍🏻

[@lbj9023]

Because its new, ask them if they still want to keep it after 5 to 10 years.

[@qna95B]

@@lbj9023 more people choose to stay with OG M2, than the M2C

[@ostfahrstreifen8421]

It's still mind blowing how damn heavy new cars are. 1600kg for such a "small" car?

[@jareknowak8712]

Yes, 1600 is light today :(

[@Almansa403s]

its 100kg heavier than my 2006 E60 530i... haha

[@timothycc711]

I disagree. 3500 lbs isn't that much for a modern car. Its great comparing the weight to older cars but you cant compare their crash worthiness.

[@ostfahrstreifen8421]

@@timothycc711 this was my point. Of course it isn't much because they all are much heavier. And i know why they're heavier, too, safety is a big part of that.

[@idokwatcher2062]

Yet porsche finds a way to be "crash worthy" at 200KG less, year after year.

[@saabreplay7553]

Love your work man. Very kind to see what tri-industries is doing

[@basithph8958]

Sadly the M2 is probably one of the only real driving machines from BMW

[@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt]

Even more sad is how BowelMovementW refuses to even try making a car that can compete with a ZL1 or GT350 on a track. The 650 hp ZL1 will decimate this crapwagon.

[@basithph8958]

@@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt the M2 has a purpose and the GT350 has a different purpose They are both great cars don't bring shade to them

[@j.3854]

Yet weighs 3700 lbs. fail.

[@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt]

@@basithph8958 BMW has no business calling themselves a performance car. "Sports Luxury" is as close as they get. They're in the same league with Lexus and Mercedes, who also make sports luxury cars, not performance cars.

[@jordanbell4420]

The 2 Series models are the only true BMW's left. The Ultimate Driving Machine is now the most ironic marketing slogan in the car industry.

[@aaronpierre1381]

I need more content you goose! Btw you editing skills are masterfull. Keep up the good work.

[@ChrisDorgan]

I just swapped my OG M2 for an Aston MArtin Vantage Roadster. I feel like I've stepped back in time haha. The M2 was a great car but it was expensive for what you got and it needed the additional M Performance Exhaust to wake up the noise. That was the single handedly best thing I did to spice up the car. It sounded naughty..... but now I feel like an adult :P :P and the manual in the Vantage feels like old school driving again. M2 easier to drive day to day by miles but the Vantage feels special. Brakes, specifically discs were the weak point of the M2, the rear skips a bit on a bumpy B road but it's not as bad imo as journo's were saying. Why the original M2 didn't have the M seats I don't know. That's probably one of the biggest disappointments in terms of getting something different (I had an M235i before the M2) drove completely differently but inside felt I had been looking at the same car for 5 years, hence the complete change. I would never downcry the M2 for what you got for the money but with the competition now starting over £50k (realistically) & the depreciation they'll get now it's not an uncommon sight takes away from the bang for your buck. I can see the used car market getting a big bolstering (in the UK) with new regs ruining new cars looks, engines etc and prices sky rocketing across the board for new fast/fun cars. Like me I think people will look at a new M2 and go but I can finally afford that slightly older Porsche with an NA engine, or an Aston with the big V8 or an F430 (if you're looking at a heavily specced new M3/4.

[@adimuftic9930]

Chris Dorgan 😂 Lol I’m deciding between m2 competition vs 911 Carrera 2017 9000 miles and I said exactly what you said I’m going with 2017 911 crazy you said this my friend

[@csu111]

They’re just now focusing on reliability? Brilliant idea...who would have ever thought....

[@sophisticated]

This car has a higher center of gravity than the Supra/Z4 as well. It's basically a coupe version of a hot hatch in europe.

[@WarHammer1911A1]

Your videos are better than the ones the manufacturers put out...

[@Grizzly1644]

Did you find the seating position is off? When I sat in both the m140i and series 2 I found the seat was offset from centre of the wheel. Very noticeable, and documented on the net.

[@savagegeese]

We didnt notice it that much.

[@christopheranderson6931]

I too am interested in hearing what SG's thoughts about the seating position are. Some M2 owners on the interwebs claim not to have any problems with the seat, but I recently bought a 2019 Kia Optima which has a driver's seat which is similarly offset in the way the M2's seat is. And it's killing me on long drives. Maybe it's just a matter of different body types?

[@savagegeese]

@@christopheranderson6931 its definately a body type issue. I have been in a few cars where seats felt offset but this car felt normal.

[@sweens.e36.f87]

I couldn't notice it when sitting in an M2. I was well aware of the angled seat before sitting in it too.

[@Grizzly1644]

@@savagegeese Personally I feel seating positions in a lot of modern cars is terrible. Currently being in the market for a vehicle, I have recently sat in everything under the sun. I personally found the BMW's had terrible and noticeable seat to steering wheel offset. Cars like the VW golf GTI and R also have offset but try and correct it by pointing the front of the seat towards steering wheel centre. This means your body is slightly rotated. The Civic Type R was one of the better ones. Maybe a video in it.

[@De132an]

“Spin it into a curb”. We’ve already seen that to be true! LOL