2022 Genesis G70 RWD and AWD | Almost There

[@MatthewKatidjo]

“Can I pass poor people around me on the highway” had me dead 😂😂😂

[@trevorsutherland5263]

LOL. If you are in a Genesis, you are one of the "poor people".... :-D

[@MrFoof82]

I was talking to John Business the other day. Those poor people in his way really grinds his gears!

[@quin1767]

@@trevorsutherland5263 seeing as the median yearly salary for Americans almost equates to the total price of this car idk how true that is lol

[@Nemixx]

@@quin1767 you can pick one up for cheap used with no miles lol.

[@quin1767]

@@Nemixx you’re not finding a 2022 v6 under 40k and still that’s not cheap for the average American lmao

[@DebianDog]

if you would've told me 20 years ago that one day I would one day be lusting after a "luxury Hyundai"... I would've laughed my ass off

[@Artecus]

I agree. We are a Toyota family. My Dad bought a 2009 Genesis on a whim and it went 228,000 miles trouble free, causing us to develop another lust -- the reliability -- in light of its value. In the last eleven years, no other car manufacturer has altered our family's conservative perception of cars in such a positive way as Hyundai and now Genesis.

[@chiuuuuuuuuuu]

@@ArtecusIn 2009 I told my family the Genesis sedan is a really nice bang for the buck car but they didn't believe me and got a loaded Altima. Didnt drive it much but It had so much problems.. really missed out big time on that og Genesis.

[@Artecus]

@@chiuuuuuuuuuu I am so sorry to read the regretful news. My sister has an RX 350 and her husband, my brother in-law, because of my father, got a GV70 3.5T. I have a Toyota Tacoma and because of my father, a G80 Sport 3.3T. Mother has RAV4. Brother has Maxima AND HATES IT. (He is looking at Accord and Avalon). I encourage your family to seriously consider Genesis the next time around.

[@chiuuuuuuuuuu]

@@Artecus Very nice choices you have right there. And i definitely want a GV70/80 in the future when the chip shortage die down. They are amazing cars.

[@dragospahontu]

@@Artecus Marin Winterkorn said ages ago that out of the Asian companies Hyundai will give them the biggest headache. I'm not surprised.

[@markclayton8977]

I watch every savagegeese video, but the B-roll always stuns me. How a KZbin channel films on par with huge autoblogs or TV shows is beyond me.

[@TheRexion]

Drones are amazing.

[@Eternalmotors]

Wonder what camera they use?

[@HeTianHeng]

@@Eternalmotors prolly GH5s or something along those lines. Allthough I vaguely remember him talking in a livestream about upgrading to a dedicated canon videocam, but did not go into detail...

[@AnalogDave]

Who will choose this over the German car? Me. I don't want to know my service adviser better than my own friends and family.

[@fabulousprofound]

I both laughed and cried when I read this. The service advisor I trust the most at my bmw dealer just quit and to me it’s just like losing a close family member 😭

[@DrJeffreyTran]

I heard the theta engines weren’t very reliable either.

[@andruwmartinez4129]

This did not age well

[@BezmenovDisciple]

BMW now 3rd most reliable brand in America behind only Lexus and Toyota.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

@@BezmenovDisciple This is why I love BMW so much more than Audi and Merc. If we weren’t buying Acura, Lexus, and Mazda- it would be BMW and Porsche instead.

[@dannoyes4493]

I see this as an escape path from the German sedans with their plastic-fantastic / fail-on-a-moment's-notice design. Well done.

[@Nickersont88]

It doesn't come with a reputation. It's not a "what's a turn signal" BMW, a "90 is normal for this highway" Audi or "I have every right to drive 70 in the left-hand lane" Lexus. And for what you can get used, there's not much competition.

[@busterscrugs]

idk about that, I saw an awful lot of plastic on that 3.3L, not to mention hyundai isn't known for making quality engines (theta II for example)

[@dannoyes4493]

@@busterscrugs "Quality" is a fleeting ghost, wafting through the ether surrounding us all. Just watch as the plastic water pump disintegrates before your eyes in the middle of nowhere... or perhaps the head bolts will spontaneously let go on your AMG MB... or maybe your BMW bearings will grenade because of ridiculous tolerances... or marvel as the valvetronic system, or your DSG, goes ape-shit as the plastic electrical connectors dissolve into the sands of time... and don't forget to replace your AUDI plastic PCV every 30K miles... but its gonna be a fun weekend because you can replace it whilst spending the weekend cleaning carbon from your valves... and I'm not even gonna touch the Porsche IMS or bore scoring problems... or the plastic hose connectors, or the completely chickenshit, glued together rear main seals... At least the Koreans will cover your ass for 100K miles, or so I hear. Yeah, the German produce quality designs, just as Zeus is the King of the Gods... if you are a believer.

[@busterscrugs]

​@@dannoyes4493 sir, this is a wendy's. write me another essay about hyundai's theta II engines that lock up on the highway due to poor manufacturing

[@dannoyes4493]

@@busterscrugs no need. After the fires, Hyundai increased the warranty to 10 years / 120,000 miles. - Haven't seen many German manufacturers do that

[@brendanw3534]

The music you choose brings out an extra layer of emotion in your video that is well executed.

[@wesleywalls7582]

I think the refresh makes this a MUCH better looking sedan…definitely the most modern take in this segment. It’s too bad though that they didn’t fully commit to a new interior like they applied to the GV70.

[@goyangi2014]

exactly.. interior is the only flaw which they are capable of doing better.

[@HalcyonSunset]

g70's are 55k fully loaded, the german cars basically start at 55k, so really they're not in the same class imo. Especially considering a base 3.3l g70 is only 42k, which is waaaay less money than the germans for that level of speed

[@zbipolarbear]

I agree. It feels like they missed the mark when it came to price comparisons. at 55k you're looking at the base level for all the german competition with their respective turbo V6/I6. And to even get them fully equipped similar what the g70 will offer fully loaded, you're gonna see a 10k - 15k markup to match it. A better pricing comparison would be that for a fully loaded V6 g70 you can get the base 4cyl. german competition fully specced. So the g70 is still giving you greater value. I have an Audi S5 Sportback with the prestige package and optional s sport package that comes in at nearly 70k. for people not interested in paying the german prices (and there are a lot of people) this is a great alternative for a car that has 8/10ths of the performance of the german competition

[@Eric_Nielsen]

And depreciation is your friend. Value of a 2year-old Genesis is insane.

[@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763]

@@Eric_Nielsen Annnnnd……it still has warranty and reliability waaaay better than the Germans.

[@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763]

@Ralph B From my and my friends’ experiences with them.

[@thelarry383]

@@layne4376 they're cheaper because they produce their own steel among other components.

[@hutch2142]

I own a 2021 G70 AWD Sport. Love the car, and your reviews have been really spot on. When you ask who's buying it I will offer up a point you missed. It has a very unique look, and if you have no allegiance to the German brands, it just doesn't look like every other BMW or Audi on the road. To the buyer who isn't a true 'car guy' , it's just very different from what else is out there. Part of it (admittedly) is you don't see many of them on the road, and every Audi/BMW looks fairly similar if you aren't hardcore for the brand.

[@badopinion]

Jack is right. You just have to want to experience the new brand. It’s not a better car than the Germans.

[@hutch2142]

@@badopinion I have had both Audi/BMW before. It really gets subjective when choosing the best. I figured the Genesis wasn't drastically different then the others as a daily driver.

[@paulv22]

@@badopinion Well, it can't be worse when it comes to long term ownership.

[@golfinguru11]

@@badopinion It's still 15% cheaper than an m340i, much more reliable (important if you're not leasing it) and most would agree it looks better. Those are three very good reasons to consider it over the germans.

[@Subh8081]

Spot on. It looks better inside and outside. More importantly, it has an "unique" look. Furthermore, it provides many bells an whistles to the base unlike the German cars and still costs 15% less. Yes, the engine is not as refined as the German ones, but the difference is not 15%, but more like 5-10%. I went from Audi A4 to Genesis GV70 2.5T AWD as the family car. I am less than satisfied with the mileage. I also find the breaking experience bit unsatisfactory. But I wouldn't have known unless I owned a German car before. In every other aspect I absolutely enjoy the Genesis more than the Audi.

[@sephiros9883]

Every time I feel compelled to comment on the quality of the production and commentaries. Really the best auto channel out there.

[@Hashbrowniepie]

The price comparisons seem way off in this one. A 3 series starts at $41,450 (almost 4k more than the G70) and the M340 starts at $54,700 vs $42,100 for the G70 according to both their websites. That's almost a 13k difference.

[@davideroncari6267]

An M340 at 54,700 is not comparably equipped like the G70 at that price. BMW will be at least 10k more with similar equipment.

[@MrDsn112]

Add any options to either of those and get back to us. 330s all around 50k when they show up, and m340i pushing 63+.

[@toobtude]

I crossed shopped g70 with s3 and s3 was like 18 grand more

[@billywarren8805]

Exactly. I was considering the M340i before I bought my G70 3.3t Sport Prestige. A similarly optioned M340i was a minimum of $10k more.

[@MagnumPI1979]

I know right. I’m looking at g70 vs comparably equipped m340 and it’s 23k more all in and 3% worse financing. I am in Canada for context.

[@PerryCaulkins]

It almost doesn’t matter how it drives, it looks so amazing. Definitely the most striking car in its class, only thing close is the giulia

[@TrinityWilderness1]

“It doesn’t MATTER how it drives”?? Are you bonkers? What’s the point of ever leaving your driveway, right? Driving MATTERS, please believe me.

[@nvkaushikvarma]

Giulia is more striking IMO.

[@MuffinMan0521]

The new IS looks so much better

[@kevinbreese5739]

I agree this is a great looking car, but..umm...have you even seen a TLX type S? That car is GORGEOUS!

[@devn3813]

@@kevinbreese5739this car is like half the price and is faster

[@lgz2006]

I don't know why but the G70 was growing on me overtime!! This sentence itself speaks out my liking about the car itself!

[@infidel900rr]

BMW needs to work on changing their "lease only vehicle" image. As someone who's owned 6 BMWs all bought used and ran to over 150K mi - I can say I love their cars, but they should demonstrate more commitment to the longevity of their products.

[@Sayua-chan]

_You will own nothing and you will be happy_

[@marklion315]

More people lease in eu than buy, there's also stricter yearly inspections. BMW have no reason to build cars that last or for the second or third owner.

[@markmiller3279]

@@marklion315 True, especially since those later owners are probably in Russia or Southeast Asia, where the brand matters more than anything. There They keep the cars going with whatever is at hand. Air suspension failed - put in coil springs. Active dampers died - we have regular shocks for that.

[@2004cyrus]

That won’t happen. Rich people want to lease and dump. That’s what I’ve done. Business write-off. When warranty is done, I am done.

[@96Dak318]

Can you do a review of the top 5 cars you have tested with the best sound systems? It is a point you touch on in many videos and I’m sure a lot of people would like to see what makes certain models/brands better than others in that area.

[@isaacr7416]

Yes please.

[@normt430]

Yes, and find a CT5-V to test.

[@harryspeakup8452]

This is a good idea. Yes please.

[@deluxsound123]

All sound systems in cars sound bad. Its the nature of the space your listening in. Engineers will understand this comment while the audiophiles will aruge about it. Saying shit like you dont know what your talking about my car blah blah blah.

[@96Dak318]

@@deluxsound123 ok…

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

You underestimate the options pricing on the germans. Comparably equipped the germans prices skyrocket much more than you seem to think, their base prices are useless.

[@dougrobinson8602]

Agreed. You will not find a base level, low optioned car on any German marque dealer lot. They are pretty much all loaded with crap you don't need. You can't get a manual anymore, either. That is, unless you're willing to put up with an M car.

[@markmiller3279]

Exactly. The base prices are a fiction for advertising purposes. They all have a long list of overpriced options and the cars on dealer lots have thousands of dollars of them. As with the Japanese brands, the Genesis has a few sensible packages and few individual options. It keeps the prices down.

[@johns9969]

Always the case. 20 years ago, only a 7 series had a/c as standard.

[@richardbixler]

Totally true. Previously I’d be ok with the extra options if it was for things like comfort, power, sound etc. As of recently, those premium options are just shit driving nannies and shit infotainment crap that’s just annoying. As someone who’s only had VW, Audi, BMW, and Merc’s for the last 15yrs, I can’t imagine buying any of the German offerings available right now. I feel like the entire German automobile industry has lost its way. The big four all seem to be void of any original ideas or designs, while jumping to copy each other’s gimmicks that their own customers hate. It almost reminds me of the American auto industry in the 70’s-80’s as they where losing their reign as industry leaders. If they’re banking on people continuing to buy their car under the assumption of “superior German engineering” these execs are going to wake up one day realizing they’ve let an entire industry down with their complacency.

[@toobtude]

If you want a sedan that is sub 5 sec to sixty not a lot compete in the price bracket. I bought a g70 but crossed shopped many, many cars and almost went with the S3 but it was 15 to 18 grand more with similar features and performance, maybe a little more polished interior but now worth the extra cash in my opinion.

[@mike80449]

I just bought my 2022 sport prestige awd 3.3 twin turbo love it the acceleration and handling are amazing very fast. Comfy real neck breaker to a lot of people stop me at gas stations all the time to talk about it

[@nicholascomaromi3881]

folks walk up all the TIME and ask about the car, particularly noting the Siberian Ice is the best color they've ever seen! Enjoy!

[@dragospahontu]

@@nicholascomaromi3881 it is a new car after all We'll have to see how it will age, time will tell.

[@ci6516]

@@dragospahontu I have a 14 azera which died to make way for genesis , and ppl still say it’s very beautiful

[@jp-uno]

I got the RWD 2022 G70 Sport in Siberian Ice. I love it!

[@Imleocalm]

Yup! I have a launch edition in white. It's a rarity of it doesn't start a conversation... lol

[@meebs86]

The 3.3 v6 is twin turbo, and it's easy to see both turbos under the hood... Surprised both hosts missed such an easy to check aspect of the car.

[@dragospahontu]

He's been slacking recently

[@dblezi]

They reviewed a Stinger which has the same engine with two tiny turbos. So they should know it is twin turbo. Otherwise the engine would have a completely different configuration with one turbo.

[@senorfreeze4662]

@@layne4376 a lot of Stinger and G70 owners think Hyundia is very conservative on their tuning and that they detune it to offer their 10 year warranty. Ie: some rumors hint that it’s an overbuilt engine

[@Tsand4]

@@layne4376 lol u really know nothing. Think because it has 2 turbos instead of one it should have more power🤦🏻‍♂️. Ok let me explain since u don’t understand. The cars in this segment with one turbo have 1 BIGGER sized turbo. The cars with 2 turbos have 2 SMALLER sized turbos. They all put out between 12-16psi of boost. Just different methods. If you knew about cars you would know that lol.

[@Tsand4]

@@layne4376 just more stuff to go wrong? ….stop it u own a bmw ticking time bomb lol. Saying the engineering isn’t good are you stupid? It’s built designed and engineered by Germans lol. More turbo lag then the other cars? The g70 is very responsive no more turbo lag then others in the class. And after i literally just explained to you about 1 vs 2 turbos makes no difference in the class of vehicles u still think it does. Wow lol. This dude is the only reviewer I’ve ever heard complain about the brakes. And even that it’s a simple swap to more aggressive brake pads. Have fun with that b58 sucking up oil like it’s water.

[@tomdrummy4984]

Genesis has the sharpest looking vehicles on the road

[@sakshyamindrabudhathoki9157]

*Cadillac joined the chat

[@Ki-fp4iv]

Cadillac what? Whats that

[@aceofspades6667]

@@sakshyamindrabudhathoki9157 whispers **blackwing**

[@incipidsigninsetup]

@@aceofspades6667 he means throughout their entire line up. Genesis has better looking cars throughout. Btw, Genesis doesn't have anything that comes close to the Black Wings performance. So in that regard its not a fair comparison.

[@aceofspades6667]

@@incipidsigninsetup I know I just watched throttle house review of black wing and it’s hilarious.

[@MrRezQ]

You have no idea how long I’ve been waiting for this video

[@insayn7995]

g70 3.3 awd starts at about 45k while the m340i x drive starts at 57k. That's quite a difference.

[@univesse]

Did he freeze the HUD at 69 while obviously keeping accelerating? Nice.

[@cibo4569]

Lol i was in class today and when the teacher said read pages 56-69 i laughed so hard xd. lol like. like 69 is a sex position. thats why its so funny. so whenever someone write or say 69 i think of sex xd. omg its so funny im gonna cry lol. bro i kinda wish i could 69 someone irl ngl. maybe i wouldnt find it so funny anymore you know. haha omg i cant get over it bro xd. 69 = SEX. omg lol.

[@donhill1825]

@@cibo4569 It's been a tongue in cheek joke for a long time now. Calm your tits.

[@ci6516]

@@donhill1825 he’s probably 15

[@macaron3141592653]

Nice

[@cibo4569]

@@ci6516 my university friends still find this funny.

[@autohelix]

My Wife and I have a 2020 G70 sport awd. We bought the car at the end of 2020 and we got 23% off the sticker price. The only bad thing about the car is the brake pads. They cause a uneven buildup of pad material on the rotor surface which results in brake pedal pulsation. We will definitely keep the car long-term we drive our vehicles till dust. The car gets a ton of compliments. If my Wife is by herself every man on the planet wants to talk to her about the car.

[@NEWNATURE777]

Enjoy your ride, Hyundai/Kia Notorious brakes pads & rotors problems, first thing I upgraded on my sonata were aftermarket rotors & pads, day vs night difference...👍

[@gasstation405]

The complaints about the price are weird. A C43 and M340i start at $55K, whereas the fully loaded G70 is already $55K. This is by far the best value in the class and outdrives half the competition. It's much easier to see where it fits then something slow and bloated missing half the features like the TLX Type S. Not to mention, C43 won't have a 6-cylinder anymore next year... only a 4 pot that nobody asked for. I question the sanity of anyone who would pay up to $70K for a 4-popper, but badge suckers exist by the thousands.

[@gasstation405]

@MLWATKK It's the dumb European and Chinese regulations, both of which are Mercedes's biggest markets.

[@mattspeer01]

The TLX Type S is an overpriced joke for the price/performance. Slowest in class, by far, and you can’t even get it with a HUD. In its 5 years of existence, Genesis has blown past Acura (and Infiniti) in desirability, performance, and quality.

[@mattspeer01]

@Jason King Thanks for the detailed response on whatever you are disagreeing with... good stuff.

[@SlipAngleG70]

@Jason King Yup

[@stanmarcusgtv]

the TLX is the better car

[@cvandenhaute]

I own a 2019 rwd 3.3 g70 and cross shopped against the c43 and the m340i, the reality is that at equivalent equipment, the G70 was really 15k cheaper, not 5k. Mine was a little under 50k while the Germans were at 65k with the extras. Plus I found the interior of the g70 nicer looking. It was more fun as well than the c43 (AWD, no choice for rwd) but the amg performance exhaust was awesome. The g70 is a great car and after 2 years, I still enjoy driving it and always find an excuse to find a back road instead of the interstate. The Genesis dealership experience in the other hand is atrocious…

[@JIKI900]

Hey Cedric, I am in the market for a new car and seriously considering the G70. Can you please elaborate on your dealership experience?

[@ezbacc]

@@JIKI900 was kind of hoping for a reply here as well. I want to know how the valet home service actually works. When the program began here in Toronto, Canada i heard it was a disaster.

[@Mike-lt6sj]

​@@JIKI900 I would never trust these folks. Like rotting teeth meth-heads who drink kesslers every night after work. 😂

[@jsks76905]

​@@ezbaccI live in Markham. I use Ajax Genesis. My experience has been great. They have dropped off loaners and pick up my car for scheduled services with no issue.

[@bhongtastic]

team savagegeese!! pound for pound, you and your crew produce the most intelligent car reviews on youtube 👏👊

[@brotherted9212]

I agree. Even if their peculiar bias is to assume that every vehicle wants to be a drag racer. Fortunately that bias didn’t affect this video, since the G70 3.3T is apparently so fast.

[@GearboxCarReviews]

Definitely a car that deserves more attention! Really fun car and the interior - especially with the nappa leather - feels very nice and classy. I'd love to find a RWD one!

[@dragospahontu]

The interior quality is definitely lacking compared to Lexus, Acura, Audi

[@GearboxCarReviews]

@@dragospahontu As a general statement, I definitely agree. But I was in a Launch Edition with the Sevilla Red leather and it felt really classy and comfortable. I also really don't like Acura's infotainment and I've heard Lexus's is cumbersome as well. I'd still probably pick the top trim G70 over something like a TLX Type S. Not exactly apples to apples I know, but I can only speak to what I've been in.

[@dragospahontu]

@@GearboxCarReviews i was just talking about the quality ignoring everything else which is subjective

[@GearboxCarReviews]

@@dragospahontu Fair enough!

[@tannyocean9984]

@@dragospahontu infotainment definitely beat Lexus fosho. Lexus’s infotainment got stuck in the 2000s

[@nickcicero344]

the sport trim AWD sends 100% of the power to the rear wheels in sport+ mode

[@JT-fq2bl]

That mode is on the Prestige trim which Savagegeese wasn't able to review.

[@razorraysolarsavings70]

I wonder if the GV70 awd has a similar mode, where 100% of the power gets sent to the rear wheels when on sport mode +? Interesting.

[@bamf986]

@@JT-fq2bl Wrong. Sport+ is on ALL 3.3TT models.

[@javieraroman2721]

Yo that intro music was BANGIN. Just like that top tier video quality

[@briannewman532]

The shot at 13:16 where they split the flock of birds was kind of nice. Well edited.

[@zakarneh]

Bing an owner of few BMWs, the thing I love about the German cars that refreshes are far in between and your car usually looks fresh even when new models come out. I just sold a 2011 335is and I was still in love with the car. I’m actually impressed with the Genesis brand but they have to commit to a less refreshing cycles and designs that will age well

[@Tsand4]

The Germans similarly equipped are easy 65k plus. Idk what these guys are talking about. Also the AWD with the brembos and LSD slides around just like the rwd variant. Only the base Germans cost mid 50 to high 50k. G70 is fully loaded low to mid 50k.

[@sappyjohnson]

@@layne4376 What about upkeep costs? German cars will bankrupt you. How does the G70 measure up?

[@derbigpr500]

Drive the Germans on the Autobahn back to back to a Genesis, and you'll see why they cost more. The Genesis still feels like a Hyundai with a nicer interior at the end of the day. Everyone else, I repeat, everyone else, including Lexus, Infinity, Acura, Cadillac, Genesis, Volvo, etc. and others who'd like to compete with BMW, Audi and Mercedes, are at least a generation or more behind them in terms of refinement, feeling of solidity, feeling of being planted and stable at high speeds, quietness, etc. Now, you may say "but I never drive faster than 80 mph and I don't care". Well, maybe you don't, but it still doesn't mean that some cars aren't built to be capable of doing that, and others aren't, and it doesn't mean that those cars that ARE built for it cost more because they're simply objectively better. Genesis is one of those others that aren't built for it. Not that they're bad, but they're in line with their price tag. Even a EU VW Passat / Arteon is more refined. Again, it's easy to judge "luxury" cars when they're stationary or driven at low speeds, because it's not hard to make a car quiet, smooth and comfortable at low to medium speeds. But go take one for a spin at 150+ mph on some curvy and bumpy autobahn and then you'll see the difference in stability, solidity, soundproofing, feeling of security, etc. The difference is Audi / BMW / Mercedes feel natural and totally unstressed at those kinds of conditions, there's no more drama driving them 150 than there is driving them at 80. With lesser cars, there is more drama and a sense of "going too fast". All this comes from superior engineering and manufacturing that's designed to perform on a much higher level than average cars, because these cars are BUILT to be driven like that on a daily basis by ANYONE on PUBLIC roads, not just professional drivers on closed circuits. This is what I say to everyone who compares these wanna-be premium brands to real premium brands. There's more to a premium experience than nice materials in the interior, and you have to drive the cars to their full potential to realize it. If you only ever drive cars to 7/10, you'll never notice the difference between a car that can only reach that 7/10ths comfortably, and a car that has those extra 3/10th still available to it.

[@vomErsten]

@@derbigpr500 What you are calling "stability and handling" at Autobahn speeds is just isolation. These other cars handle fine, but you are going to feel it a little more. Isolation is as much a weakness for the Germans as it is a strength. Signed, an Audi owner.

[@nolij7765]

@@layne4376 Maybe. I'm not sold on fit and finish though. My inlaws have a 2017 M4 that I get to drive on occasion. Its only a couple years old with maybe 30k miles on it and its got plenty of squeaks and rattles (especially from the drivers seat) and has already had to go to the dealer for low coolant. The interior has cool lighting and stuff but it doesn't seem much fancier than a new Honda or anything. If performance is all that matters, then yeah, an 8k premium could be worth it to you. But I think the Genesis looks better on the inside and outside. That 10year 100k warranty is also going to make cost of ownership considerably cheaper than the BMW if you plan on keeping it for more than a couple years. The Genesis is for someone who wants an attractive, sporty, well-equipped car with a long warranty that will make it way cheaper in the long run than most other luxury cars.

[@derbigpr500]

@@sappyjohnson "German cars will bankrupt you." - That's utter nonsense. Stop spreading rumors based on absolutely nothing but your own lack of knowledge. Service them regularly as the manufacturer recommends and they'll be bulletproof. Just like they are in Europe. All these myths about German cars being unreliable come from irresponsible owners in the USA who never service their cars and then whine when something breaks down, and then to make things worse, take them to a local mechanic who has no clue how to work on the car, puts in cheap replacement parts to save money, or messes something up even further, which puts these owners into an endless cycle of repairing something that never should have been broken to begin with. In Europe a BMW, Audi or Mercedes with less than 200k km's is considered "barely broken in" and expected to still perform like new for at least twice if not three times that mileage over the years. But in USA you hear stories from people with almost brand new cars. I wonder why.... it's all down to owners not listening to manufacturers, ignoring dealers because there's this belief in USA that dealers only exist to scam you (maybe that's true in USA), and the tendency to repair cars with cheap replacement parts once something does go wrong. As for German cars being expensive to maintain...tell me more about how expensive my BMW 3 series that I have a 5 year unlimited km warranty on is, with FREE SERVICING for the duration of the warranty at the official BMW dealer, all I have to pay during service intervals is the work, which is like 50 dollars per service every 30k km's or 2 years, all the parts I get are original and fully covered, at NO extra charge when I bought the car. That's just how confident the manufacturer is that the car will perform perfectly for 5 years with no mileage limit. You can put a ton on the car in that time, I have 140k already in just over 2 years.

[@florinvid]

I see savagegeese uploaded 3 hrs ago, I click. No questions asked, it's gonna be good content.

[@williamlong2682]

Honestly I’m getting kind of tired of reviewers holding “brand stigma” against cars such as this G70. I get that it’s a factor in a segment like this, but that’s not why I read or watch a car review. I want a car review to simply tell me about the car and its strengths and weaknesses. Leave the “brand issues” for consumers to decide.

[@Nickersont88]

I got this car because of its brand. BMWs, Audis and to a lesser degree Mercedes and Acuras have a stigma. Shit, even Lexus are known for attracting old people. I can't tell you how many people ask me what my '21 G70 is. It's an amoeba (with a twin-turbo v6, AWD, LSD in the rear with "drift mode"). That's perfect for me.

[@williamlong2682]

@@Nickersont88 I like the way you think, my friend! Appreciate that you went with a left field choice in this segment! Hope you enjoy it :D

[@raj.ghuman]

Would love to get a M340i but went with this fully loaded(Canadian*). No one else has it & that's the best feeling ever 💯 and passes 99% of cars on road that I've come across. People get blown away with red interior.

[@IronBrotherhood4]

I look forward to the music every video, no stone is unturned here, great work as usual.

[@JesseProwisor]

Where are you getting pricing for the German versions?? the top AWD G70 version is about 56K. The top M340 is in the high 70's!!! So how can we compare the two? If I'm going to spend 75K I'll get BMW/Audi. If $55k then G70, TSX, or a few others. No???

[@OCDflix]

Just got this in the sport advanced trim, 3 weeks ago. It’s an amazing car. Drives more than fast enough for me. Very easy steering. Sound system is fantastic. Oddly enough, my only qualm (albeit minor) is the Qi phone charging. It works about 50% of the time. Other than that, this car is fantastic. Great review too!

[@TheNeoCubest]

The 69 on the head up display is golden, nice editing LOL 7:45

[@don_huzan]

You mean at 7:35?

[@elementarytechie6449]

mate i really like your minecraft house tutorials never thought i would see u on my favorite car youtuber

[@tejj5957]

bunch of ppl gonna click 7:45 and be like wtf going on

[@mattsgarage6385]

Couldn’t stop laughing at that 😂

[@Andrew-zx9wx]

😂

[@Tom-li9xq]

It feels like I am watching a GOD DAMN movie. Fabulous work guys !!

[@MrRwalls33]

Since I own a 2022 Genesis G70 3.3T AWD I can tell you that the best thing about the car is that is ISN’T a BMW. The more you learn to push the car the more it rewards you, and I don’t feel like a pretentious git driving it like I would if it had a BMW badge on it. And the Genesis service is honestly second to none. You want to feel important every time you get your vehicle serviced, buy a Genesis. You want to feel like an afterthought chump, buy a merc or a bmw.

[@mrgamnwatch]

Coming from a Hatchback Honda I'm thinking of getting the G70. Can you tell me how's that trunk space?

[@Subh8081]

​@@mrgamnwatch If you are buying for office commute, grocery run, fun and luxurious driving experience etc, it is adequate. But as a family car with kids stuff and multiple suitcases, it fails. Get the GV70 crossover SUV or the bigger G80 sedan. I got the GV70 for the same reason.

[@ezbacc]

Do you have the at-home maintenance (valet) service where you live? If so, how has it been?

[@MrRwalls33]

@@ezbacc - I do and it’s been fantastic. They show up with a loaner (usually another G70 but last time was a GV80 😳). And they’re always friendly and so far always on time.

[@MrRwalls33]

@@Subh8081 - trunk is definitely small (it needs to be deeper) but if you’re buying it for the trunk that’s entirely the wrong reason.

[@thomasalston3066]

You guys are seriously my favorite automotive reviews!

[@SeanHenryLuvsDaDub]

Great review as always, sent to my dad he loves his Hyundai. Drove the AWD and it won't get me out of my S6.

[@papa_pt]

Ya this is more like an S4

[@ekscalybur]

Jack forgot one reason to pick this over the Germans & Japanese. Encouraging competition. The more these sell, the harder the Germans & Japanese will try with their next products.

[@dragospahontu]

German and japanese cars sell from inertia because they already made a name for themselves

[@mewdrarkham5293]

@@dragospahontu give it time when genesis makes a name for themselves. It’ll make the Germans finally step up

[@dragospahontu]

@@mewdrarkham5293 it will take a very long time. German and japanese cars will always be desirable but Genesis is coming strong from behind.

[@KliFinancial]

Like you guys said. It checks every box. Good value, fun enough, not reliable but you have the warranty, its unique enough, has good enough tech. I think the selling point for many will be the fact that you can get a luxury sports sedan with good features for $50k with a great warranty.

[@NissanSkyline901]

Like others have mentioned, at the price you are talking a fully loaded Genesis vs a base German competitor. Outside of the diehard "i treat this brand as a god" folks, I think you could easily see Genesis swaying people over to them based off of the cost plus the fact that it looks really really good, and arguably better than some of it's competitors. I also feel like if you asked most non-car enthusiats about the Genesis brand, they would have no idea it was tied to Hyundai and would think it's a higher end European car company. I think the current Genesis lineup looks more European than any of it's Asian counterparts.

[@markmiller3279]

I also suspect Genesis dealers will be more likely to make deals (once shortages are over.) Unlike the Germans, they don't treat their cars as precious gems to be sold to buyers with all the money they ask for.

[@aurorajones8481]

I just watched a retro MotorWeek of the Audi A4 1996 and I have to say OMG the interior shape, dash, center console is like a DEAD Match. How crazy is that? I absolutely LOVED the first gen A4. Having said all that this G70 is a very good match to it.

[@Stevethepirate8973]

I looked at and drove a g70 recently and really wanted one. The issue I ran into was I wanted a more "base" 3.3t awd and every single one was super highly optioned. Not a single more reasonable car in hundreds of miles. This made the more expansive German options more appealing. Yes you get "more" in the genesis but it's a lot of stuff I do not need or really want. When you have a lower volume car sales they just jack up the options on every car so to increase profit per car. Just not worth it at 55-60k. 100 worth at 45-50k

[@youtubasoarus]

I see what you're saying, but isn't it possible to order the car with the lowered options?

[@legrosroger]

Genesis doesn't allow to put cars on order?

[@2006gtobob]

You can order the car, I'm sure. You may need to wait a while, but, who cares? You'll get exactly what you want.

[@derbigpr500]

You don't really get "more" in a Genesis. Unless you're into all that quantity over quality mindset.

[@Stevethepirate8973]

I'm not really into buying brand new. I much prefer the off lease of 1 year trade method. Why buy a new car when you can get a 1 year old one with 2500 miles for 10k cheaper. This may have added tomy problems of finding one I liked because there are literally thousands of BMW's and Audis in all sorts of option levels and maybe all of 10 used and new Genesis G70's withing 250 miles

[@GOINFINITI]

Due to the similarity of what you get comparing to Germans I think there are two main differences when it comes to Genesis. One is overall quality - based upon J.D. Powers' research - Genesis is miles ahead in that department. The second which is yet to be seen is ownership experience in terms of aftersales service and how well will you be pampered by the brand.

[@markmd695]

I’ve seen it hit or miss in the states tbh, some people are having atrocious services but that’s bc they haven’t truly broken away from Hyundai dealers yet. I have a 21 g70 and haven’t had any problems with how I’ve been treated for service. Sure sitting in a Hyundai dealership is not what I’m used to coming from bmw, but the features and 10k less in price vs a new m340i sold me

[@GOINFINITI]

@@markmd695 As far as I know they have a little internal war with current Hundai dealerships. Genesis has a clear strategy of what it takes to be premium yet Hyundai delaerships feel entiteled to become also Gensesis dealers with what they already have and do. A lot of them are not willing to invest or understand that there has to be a very clear division between both brands on all levels - from entering the Genesis premises to having a seller and service that understands the level of cutomers used to BMW,AUDI,MERCERDES or LEXUS. In Europe they have different approach. THey have sort of Tesla style of sales approach - you have special show places for customers to experience the brand, but there is no traditional dealership involved. Meaning all sales and services are personal 1 on 1 experience.

[@TONGUES742]

I have had the 2019 G70 and the 2022 G70. Both 3.3T AWD. The 22 has the elite and premium packages, but both are very fast and comfortable. But, more on point: My dealer experience is fantastic! Burns in Cherry Hill, NJ (Genesis of Cherry Hill) with its concierge service is the best.

[@kevinconroy6606]

In Northern California, the dealership experience is straight up garbage with Hyundai/Genesis. Personal experience over the years with 3 dealers and haven't heard anything good about the others anywhere between the Bay Area to Sacramento

[@paulv22]

In the US, a fully loaded G70 AWD is $53k. A fully loaded M340ix is $10k more at least. You're off on the price. Also, Any of the German cars are going to become complete crack whores when the warranty expires (having owned a few). As for Japanese competition, the Acura's interior isn't great and Honda reliability isn't what it once was. The IS500 seems like a lot of fun but the infotainment is awful. The competition you should have mentioned is the Stinger.

[@markmiller3279]

The Germans kill you on options. A theoretical base version won't be found on many dealer lots. The Genesis has relatively few options, and they're reasonable value.

[@soroushkhodaii5548]

Indeed. Looking at their upcoming Kia EV6, ioniq 5 and gv70 it's hard to really call Kia as lower tier. I think they're mistakenly blurring the luxury difference between their sub brands.

[@stanmarcusgtv]

the TLX is the better car now

[@paulv22]

@@stanmarcusgtv I wasn't impressed with it.

[@normt430]

The Cadillac CT5-V at a similar low US$50K price will be the best driver. That platform is chiseled from ingot!

[@legio548]

I just got a RWD 3.3T SPORT PRESTIGE. The manual mode DOES NOT goes back to automatic by default as most cars do. You have to hold the right (plus) paddle for 2 seconds, or put the shifting back to D (seems to turn off D when you touch the paddles). Brakes are great, don't know why you said is the weakest part. They are set to be smooth at first, but if you need it, they can be violent and brake hard. Sound system is one of the best I ever heard, so not sure about the lack of definition you mention, ir is as good as it comes...

[@christopherbianco1970]

The Goose n Jack vids are 100% the best in business by every metric. I feel like Jack’s positioning analysis vs m340i is almost right on. Except i think most dealer specked m340i’s are gonna come in more than $5,000 higher than a loaded G70.

[@mixmixed.comics3002]

Agreed.

[@rosgoncharuk2403]

This is the car I'm considering getting for myself and GV70/80 for my wife. Amazing gob by Hyundai and Savagegeese as always! Thank you guys!

[@dragospahontu]

Why not a wagon instead of an SUV?

[@rosgoncharuk2403]

@@dragospahontu well, she wan't an SUV so that's a "damage mitigation".

[@dragospahontu]

@@rosgoncharuk2403 😂

[@dragospahontu]

@@rosgoncharuk2403 what are her arguments for wanting an SUV?

[@asapmonkey2393]

if u have more than 3 kids get a gv80 if not get the gv70

[@gbgary]

I'd pick it over the others because you won't see 3 others at every F'n intersection. it's eye catching.

[@dailyrant4068]

That argument isn't bulletproof because it's by nature of being bigger brands. There are cities/blocks where you see a Ferrari every other intersection too (Hollywood CA for example). The other thing is, the 3 German brands have so many models. You will rarely see true M, RS, or AMG in most places still.

[@gbgary]

@@dailyrant4068 argument? it's just what I WOULD DO. in a world of regular cars, BMW's, camaros, mustangs, chargers, and lookalike suv's, are everywhere. gimme something different. a Giulia, a G70, a Stinger, SOMETHING!

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

@@dailyrant4068 your argument is disregarded

[@Eric_Nielsen]

Thank you. This is exactly the review I was looking for. Happy with my 2012 4.6 that's had ONE repair ever, but the G70 2022 RWD twin turbo looks promising.

[@Yeroc357]

7:34 i thought you forgot to blur out the HUD for a moment. well done

[@thebritish910]

Passing the poor people on the highway? Spot on jack, spot on. Another great review chaps, thanks for sharing!

[@hyenaofthesea9785]

Damn, the entire British? That's insane I wish America could united around writing youtube comments

[@busterscrugs]

18:10 anyone else notice those two dudes boxing?

[@lajya01]

I thought the comments section would be filled on that.

[@carfreak0465]

Your production quality is fucking amazing geese. It's the only car channel that sounds good on my surround sound.

[@MrJpags]

Trim to trim, the competitors do NOT come close to the g70. Fully loaded to fully loaded, Germans go upwards of $10-$15k. Yes, you can argue which brands are better, but if you were talking about features vs feature, g70 is in a place of its own.

[@HashMaster1776]

3.3 is a twin turbo, and the four banger is a single turbo. Just throwing that out there since your buddy seemed to have thrown you off

[@MrRezQ]

The intro is intense

[@ScottE5]

You always sweat the details, even in your descriptions of the interior materials ... door handles are "alloy-look", "machined-looking plastics", etc. Others just call them metal. Golf clap.

[@jetrep]

I have a 2019 V6 Sport RWD. It's been a great car. The adaptive dampers I can't really tell the difference between modes. It's not the sportiest car ever but for the mostly highway cruising I do it's been good. To me this is a car you buy. If you're looking to lease and the numbers are similar I'd get the BMW.

[@m1l3s27]

Same, and that's as someone who loves BMW. This thing looks way better than the new 4/3 inside & out imo.

[@alh06]

@@m1l3s27 The 3 looks better than this, but the new 4 is atrocious

[@aceofspades6667]

IMO these are beautiful cars.. I'm likely to replace my maxima with the GV70 and not G70 just do to having 2 kids a dog and needing rear set leg room (car seats). But in 3 years when the insane used market has a correction these things will be very attractive when priced in the mid 20's.

[@farley9255]

Perfectly said 🍻

[@devn3813]

Crossovers don’t have anymore legroom, they just have more height in the rear hatch.

[@henrik1743]

I have the same issue like you, I have a dog so sedan is out of the question for me. I always complain that lexus has gone the route of no station wagons, you need a boring SUV if you want some cargo capacity..

[@devn3813]

@@henrik1743 there are fun suvs but they’re so expensive

[@aceofspades6667]

Bros I've literally taken my car with my two car seats and gone to the genesis dealer. I put both seats in the back of the G70 and GV70 and there is a considerable difference in the back seat fit. With infant car seats (rearword facing ) there is a different fit than a toddler seat (feet hanging out the front). The G70 has a tight fit for an average sized adult sitting behind an average sized adult. A car seat makes it even worse where in the driving position I had to scoot the seat way to forward or have my 4 years olds feet hanging on my shoulders. Go sit in the G70 and GV70 for yourself to see the difference. For those saying buy a stinger sure I would it's a fine car but I the interior and build quality is a few steps below the genesis.

[@lucagattoni-celli1377]

BMW claims its quality control and durability have gotten a lot better. But you still refer to the German options as lease vehicles. Would value further thoughts on that.

[@dogchainsaw3923]

It’s because bmw is bullshitting. Their engines are still 90% plastic that will fail after warranty.

[@Pato-sp2pr]

Only time will tell. PR can say whatever they want.

[@markmiller3279]

They've claimed that before, too. What has improved is initial quality of German cars. They have fewer defects when new, and Consumer Reports has most of them as reliable for the first few years. However, look at German cars starting at around five years old and the reliability plummets. BMW (and others) will claim they've made improvements and the newer models won't do that, but that pattern goes back many years, and until the current cars get some mileage on them there's no way of knowing how they'll hold up. I'm not optimistic, given how much history of poor reliability they have. The simplest, cheapest models with the least tech are usually the most reliable. The performance models are noticeably worse.

[@garrymilner3294]

I did a quick build of a M340i and a G70. In Canada the M340i built out at $73,000 CDN. The G70 built out at just over $62,000 CDN. So in Canada we only get the AWD G70. I think I would lease the G70. And in Canada we at 13 % HST to everything

[@LilRick96]

I'm taking this over the IS and Acura Fat S hands down.

[@TFareCool]

Had a 2019 top spec Sport AWD. Really quite nice. Dealership experience between all 5 of them near me was generally poor. Ended up lemoning it due to them refusing to address known issues. Once the brand separates itself and the dealership experience improves from Hyundai, I wouldn't mind being a customer again. It does have tuning potential, some of the stingers are just now cracking into the 10s, but the upgrade path gets exorbitantly expensive as there aren't many options, especially when looking into upgrading the turbos. Love to return at some point, though.

[@MrSlash00r]

The music is fantastic.

[@fpsColton]

Hey Mark, love the content. One thing… have you ever considered taking a moment to discuss paint quality? I appreciate the brief audio reviews, weight measurement, underbody check. A quick discussion regarding paint would be very nice. Reason I bring it up on this video, is I was at the Hyundai dealer to check a veloster N (just for fun) and the paint quality was absolutely horrible, massive patches of orange peel, and they wanted $40k CAD for it!

[@shawng4886]

I went with a 2021 IS350 F-Sport. I drove the IS300 and REALLY liked it. I’m coming up on 2,000 miles on my IS350. I have to say, it’s hands down the best built feeling car I’ve probably ever been in. Lexus clearly doesn’t fuck around with their quality. The car is built like an absolute tank and literally feels like it rides on rails. I’ve taken some decently sharp turns on the freeway in cruise at 75 and it’s effortless. The 3.5L may be a little underpowered but I know I’ll never have to worry about if I buy the car out. And that F-Sport exhaust gets me every time I start the car up. Beautiful engine note! I actually haven’t even driven it in manual sport mode with the paddle shifters yet… I’m sure it can MOVE!

[@tomthearchitect]

Are you guys going to do a review on the 2022 KIA Stinger GT?

[@0to600]

Genesis is much more reliable than any German automaker and they have the warranty to prove it. Enough said.

[@kristians2704]

who cares about reliability when most people that buy/lease luxury cars don’t keep them for more than 3-5 years

[@Jowurel]

@@kristians2704 The people that buy the cars used once that 5 year lease period is over…

[@alvinsimba734]

@@Jowurel the dude above you is one of those guys that just leases cars and never keeps them.

[@tonysterbenc]

No, not enough said. I know this is a year-old comment, but I see this misconception all the time. Warranty does not equal reliability. It's just an insurance policy on repairs whose cost is baked into the MSRP. Hyundai is notorious for not honoring the warranty, and even aside from that, the cars are not scoring Japanese-good in reliability surveys. Korean auto workers are actually pretty well paid, and I've talked with mechanics who say Hyundai/Kia's price advantage comes from cheaping out where it doesn't show, much like a Samsung or LG appliance.

[@0to600]

@@tonysterbenc Hmmmm. So why don't other manufacturers offer 5 year warranty, because they are not reliable. Enough said see what I did there.

[@vamsinvizag4936]

Love the way you guys cover different aspects of a car. Please review 2024 genesis g70.

[@bigden2755]

Same car....

[@Great_PatBingsoo]

This channel is a good example of people who think they’re smarter than they are. Much like a restaurant critic who thinks theyre on equal footing with a chef just because the critic learned the correct french pronunciation of a dish.

[@aaronreed9863]

F the expensive to maintain and repair german counterparts, this thing is at the top of my list.

[@kristians2704]

M340i and C43 are still miles better

[@adilsagadiyev5090]

@@kristians2704 there price is also miles higher

[@aaronreed9863]

@@adilsagadiyev5090 Exactly my point. I drove a 2.0 litre 2021 AWD and it was real nice. Also drove a 2021 AWD stinger with the 3.3T and holy smokes was that quick. These will be around 30-35k in a few years with not even close to the cost to maintain as the germans. Thats why they're at the top of my list. I'd love an AMG, but am not made of money either.

[@cinthe3]

Hey fellas, keep doing great work. I hope these Hyundai cars will go past 150k . The interiors are great now

[@lizardgreen2121]

My Veloster hit 170k until it got totaled. And my friend has a 05 Kia Sportage with 200k the newer car will have no problem hitting 150k the Germans idk

[@alh06]

Hope so, although Hyundai’s recent engine problems have gotten me questionable about these turbo engines.

[@CanadianMax]

Im a Canadian owner of '22 G70 and if you spec a C43/M340i to match the G70 Sport AWD, you are looking at $15k more (in Canada)! Now I am not as rich as you KZbinrs, so I cant just put down 15k more but I would definitely not consider a base C43 or M340i over this car (sorry but the "engine-in-front-of-the-front-axel-king-of-understeer" S4 isn't even on the shopping list). Something else that I find strange, and this might perhaps be the tires on your car, the Sport comes with Pilot Sport 4's and in sport+ the AWD system will send all the power to the back, to allow for some amazing oversteer! I haven't once encountered understeer in mine or even get a sense that its a front biased system (which it isn't). Other than that, I agree with most of your comments. This is my first non-German sport sedan in 15+ years. Great review as always!

[@CraigandCars]

The comparison is pretty incorrect here: Genesis G70 ranges $47ish to $55k maxed out with all the extras. M340i is $55k to start, $69k with the same options as a maxed G70 Audi S4 Prestige is over $60k and still has options to add. The Acura and Lexus are the only offerings that have most options all packed into one, but these options are $5-10k more in base MSRP. Used market, the G70 presents an even better value proposition. Newer luxury brand, higher initial depreciation. 2022 Certified G70 models are in the high $30k and low $40k range, which makes these an amazing value!

[@doudymac]

You hit it right on the head with the used one. I just picked up a certified used 22 G70 Sport Prestige RWD with 10K miles for $38K. I couldn't be happier.

[@liberteus]

Another car I'm not the least interested in, but Savage Geese videos are always epic, fun, informative. It will be today's treat!

[@kevind4061]

You bring me joy, savagegeese.

[@peterlattimore6013]

16:04 thanks for giving me confidence. Fantastic honest review and glad to hear.

[@nealewalter]

Great review. Local dealership (Cincinnati) only stocks AWD. Have rwd 2012 Genesis (Hyundai), still going strong with 95k miles. Only weakness in2012 was gearbox IMO. Have summer performance tires on it now and it really rocks. Had opportunity to get “R Spec” with 420 hp v8 when I bought my 2012, but after driving it realized I would probably loose my license. Probably will replace with gv70.

[@hugheymorrow]

IMO Genesis is no longer a "brand stigma". I compare this to BMW for example and prefer Genesis.

[@fabulousprofound]

@@layne4376 but the depreciation… 😢

[@fabulousprofound]

@@mezzb they need to stop selling them out of Hyundai showrooms first 😓

[@12ealDealOfficial]

Caring neither about "brand flex" or the perceived stigma of the Genesis marquee, Hyundai/ Kia or whoever owns Genesis prioritizes tech above raw driving experience. This much power on the floor with mediocre brakes and no true manual option is a disqualifier for me, personally. The presence of the screen atop the dash rather than in the center stack is a point against it, and I generally dislike the way these look.

[@fabulousprofound]

@@layne4376 someone told me it was over 30% 🥺

[@MyShawn82]

Great video guys. This car fits in the middle of the sport sedan lineup. I’d get it over the Lexus 350 AWD and honestly the Type S. But it’s not quite up to par to the S4, C43, and especially M340i. I like what they’re doing, I hope they can improve more.

[@papa_pt]

I agree except I'd probably throw the S4 under it too. The cars that beat it (c43 and M340) are about $6-10k more for same equipment

[@MyShawn82]

In terms of tech, the AWD, and overall performance, the S4 is slightly better

[@papa_pt]

@@MyShawn82 yeah true. That's more me being a rwd pedant 😅

[@MyShawn82]

@@papa_pt Trust, I don’t blame you 😂

[@The_Original_Default_Username]

I hear you took inspiration from the Tomb Raider 2 synth classical soundtrack.

[@antnyscars]

Thanks for another awesome video! You guys mentioned the S4 a few times in this video, I’d love to see a video on that in the future!

[@3744012]

Isn't this the 3.3 twin turbo engine? I don't recall Hyundai-Genesis having a single turbo version for this car.

[@gabrielyoung7504]

The kia stinger and the g70 smoked the tlx type s .

[@gabrielyoung7504]

@Jason King go look at throttle house drag race on it.

[@SlipAngleG70]

@Jason King Yup. Wasn't even close.

[@SlipAngleG70]

@Jason King Do you need the multiple drag race videos as proof?

[@markmiller3279]

@Jason King It's not exactly an unexpected result. The Acura is nose-heavy and front-wheel biased, not ideal for hard acceleration. There's no sensible reason the Koreans couldn't win that race. The car's have plenty of power and can make use of it.

[@entertained...]

they did. how did the stinger and g70 do on a track test vs. the tlx-s?

[@atahosseini8660]

Beside the review you do, I like the way you make your videos and the musics you select.

[@mark-jacobvelasquez5091]

For those of us that have 18:9 screen aspect ratios on our phones, please upload your videos so we can fill in those stupid black bars. Otherwise, great video as always. Super detailed and now I'm VERY interested in the car.

[@DavidSmith-xc2xz]

Seems to me like the Giulia is the closest rival in trying to capture buyers looking to avoid the segment heavy hitters. Back seat is a total penalty box though. Should just be a coupe.

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Guilia at money no object is my top sedan pick. Even the base Turbo 4, really sounds like a winner

[@alh06]

@@air-headedaviator1805 I so want to buy the Giulia Quadrifoglio but am just too concerned about the reliability

[@markmiller3279]

@@alh06 As you should be. Consumer Reports rates Alfa dead last in reliability. Genesis is about average for a luxury brand.

[@markmiller3279]

Too bad the Giulia is so small and woefully unreliable. The interior is also surprisingly crummy for the price, with a lot of hard plastics in places you bump against. The ergonomics suck, too. It drives well and is cute, but those aren't enough to be competitive.

[@margar1983]

Looks great but would be killer if it had a 6 speed manual transmission

[@clancep]

I think the G70 is a phenomenal car. I wish the Michelin PS4S tires, the Low Steel (semi-metallic) Brembo brake pads and the 3D gauge cluster options that are on the Korean model were available in North America. In 2019, the G70 had a "Dynamic Edition" that included the upgraded Brembo brake pads and Michelin PS4S tires. The aforementioned options should be standard on the 2022 Sport Prestige trim to really give it a unique advantage in the segment.

[@briankuhn1747]

Thank you feral bird and chuckle monkey, very nice video. As others have said, though, the price/optioning comparisons were fairly off throughout, and with the exception of the IS500, I think it's difficult to make a definitive depreciation argument against the other vehicles. The G70 will definitely depreciate faster, but I suspect these particular model years will do that less so than prior products. The rest felt very spot on, and as someone looking at the top trim AWD model, you guys raise an interesting argument against it given what you ultimately are able to utilize on the road. Something I'll have to think about. Cheers!

[@rmTheWalrus]

I know this vid is 1y old, but, g70 3.3T does NOT come in price wise near the m340i. Spec an m340i like the 55k-56k g70, that same m340i will run you upwards of 65k (for AWD). And the g70 looks better, materials better (current 3 series is hard and plasticy AF), with longer warranty. I’ve had 3 versions of the 3 series, and I’m done with them. I love that the g70 exists bc it gives me a true, viable option in this class for less money.

[@caglioso]

They really gotta fix the half assed gauges and slap the full digital in there.

[@Live.drones]

6:54 Stanley Kubrick vibes. A Clockwork Orange car scene.

[@georgehugh3455]

Appreciate the thoughtful COMPARISON considerations to its competition