2023 Hyundai Palisade | Amazing Family Hauler

[@GunKata]

The economy is looking so bleak, Mark has even downsized from Patagonia to Kirkland.. true sign of the times. That said, he and Jack then rebounded in their standard P-Gear to show that the economy will in fact recover eventually. Genius play, there.

[@redheads604]

can't beat dem $1.50 hotdogs

[@povertyspec9651]

Kirkland > Patagonia

[@johnnybravo5044]

Savage Kirkland.

[@detonater1348]

What you talking boutt

[@danielmelendez9943]

Are you kidding, who doesn’t love Kirkland brand! That was the best move on the entire video🎉😅

[@tfrogginhfroggin]

We will be 3 years into our 2020 come January mainly based on your first review. No issues, wife still loves it, does everything well. The interior is still perfect even with kids. Our dealer experience was perfect and service has been great.

[@johnnybravo5044]

I'm curious if they really honor their warranty. A lot horror stories with Hyundai/KIA.

[@Mr21scott]

Wow, so your 3 year old car has had no issues - amazing. And yes, that is sarcasm.

[@markmiller3279]

@@Mr21scott Try the same thing with a German vehicle, and then watch the fanbois make the excuse for the random broken bits that "they weren't maintained properly". The reliability of these things is quite solid.

[@noahpowers1513]

@@johnnybravo5044 a family member had his engine grenade in a 2012 Sonata. Just out of warranty and they STILL replaced it. I think it’s like any brand- gotta do the research and buy from reputable dealer with good reviews. Reward those who do the right thing and keep business away from the crappy ones

[@_saifr]

My brother came from last gen audi q7 to this palisade recently. It is a brilliant car altogether. It is not as dynamic and exciting as an audi but for a family who goes on road trips every other weekend this is the best car you can get for the price point. Seats are one of the best in class as well. Comfy for long trips.

[@ozzstars_cars]

I have been looking at purchasing a Caligraphy for a year now and no local dealers have them in stock. If they do list one it's $2k over the $52k sticker price. I'd be dumb to pay full sticker and extra dumb to pay $2k over that for "market adjustment". So my wife will continue to drive her 2013 three row Santa Fe Limited until then. Very satisfied with the car owned since new, now has 140k miles. Thanks for the honest review!

[@MKS8619]

Not sure where you're at, but here in Atlanta every single Calligraphy model in 100 mile radius has $5k+ markup. Even more amazingly, most of those are presold. I know this because I was very much shopping for one last week.

[@b127_1]

These HVAC controls are a breath of fresh air. Id love to see them on every car from now on. 🙏🙏🙏

[@oregonhighway]

They lowered the headlights so that you don't blind on-coming traffic? Now I'm going to have to get a light bar to do that 😄

[@matthewmarshall5730]

I swear so many SUVs and trucks absolutely blind me while I drive. Wasn't sure if I'm just extra sensitive to the light or what

[@whatchis1120]

The Tellurides are horrible to meet oncoming absolutely blinding till your side mirror.

[@gs98999]

It absolutely doesn’t do anything to lessen the blinding of others. It actually looks like you have high beams on all the time.

[@tylerbetthauser7647]

I drive an A7 and everyone's headlamps are directly in my eyeline

[@oregonhighway]

@@tylerbetthauser7647 yep. My DD is a mustang, just learn to look away with all the trucks and SUVs in the PNW

[@radunicoara5267]

Mid range cars keep getting remarkably better, at least when it comes to interior design and usability. Comparing this interior with the latest from Mercedes, even though the Mercedes has (arguably) better materials, the all-touch and piano black looks and feels tacky, dated and crowded. It is weird to see this happening and progressing.

[@speedracer2please]

Yeah maybe luxury cars were worthwhile in the 90s, but now they really seem like just status symbols. Plus they used to last longer, and now they're going the opposite extreme

[@biotopebiologist5030]

The german luxury market has been ignoring their consumers for a good decade now. It’s starting to show and now Jack can’t even argue with it as a german fanboy.

[@daveminivan6363]

Its almost like mid range phones. Hurray for competition

[@iSOBigD]

I feel the same way. The other thing is every lower end luxury car and SUV (c-e class, 3-5 series, q5-q7, etc.) is pretty much all plastic, vinyl, piano black and touch screens, if you pay for the add-ons. They don't feel expensive at all and even their wood or carbon Fibre looks as fake as any other, and they feel like hard plastic. They don't seem to care about expensive materials until you get well over 100k with the S class/7 series/A8 and even those start with lots of piano black and hard surfaces all over, and you need to option out the nice features and materials. Hyundai and Kia vehicles are pretty close now for way less money, if we're not talking high performance

[@gettcouped]

All the unreliable gimmicks in luxury cars is definitely tiring! Things like this that execute a usable impressive interior is something that I wish more cars would do. Having a stupid red light strip flashing when you turn up the temperature in a Mercedes is worthless tech that will just break or look stupid in a few years as technology advances.

[@sangh1120]

I watched 17 G90 review and bought it. Absolutely loved it for past 3 years, then now I watched this video, got me the 23 calligraphy palisade and I love it. I have decent Highway commute, I am very satisfied

[@youngbrevy]

And the price is the best part of this. It looks great all around. Great review

[@zarbon700]

Look good until you look at the low quality mechanical components and having to agure with the dealership to honor the warranty.

[@t.stango8224]

Picked up one of these up about 5 weeks ago in the same trim. The good definitely outweighs the bad. Sure it looks like you can grate a large block of cheese on the grill, but the interior is a big selling point. The dash layout, materials, and presence of physical buttons is fantastic. I like that you can steady your hand on the dash while using the touch screen....it makes all the difference in the world for usability. Could not justify the added cost of something at a comparable trim level for example, a Jeep Grand Cherokee L that has piano black trim on all of the touch points. The overall size is perfect as it fits in a regular sized garage, unlike full size SUV's. Road trips are really comfortable in the first two rows and the driving aids work much better that what I've experienced in our 2019 Pilot. Heated out board seats in all 3 rows, ventilated in the first two rows. Pretty good bang for the buck. Hoping the reliability is there...

[@ishaansaral502]

Has been out for 3 years with no problems so you have a safe buy. Only the engine is pretty oil thirsty so change oil at shorter intervals than manual.

[@TimPaddy]

Hey, you don't have to look at it when you're driving, that's everyone else's problem. Am I right?

[@ghoulbuster1]

@@ishaansaral502 Use thicker oil or high mileage oil then, problem solved.

[@DaGoook]

@Savagegeese3 You write KZbin comments in same tone and style as a Twitter scam bot, hmmmm...

[@hotdog9262]

@@ishaansaral502 manual recommended oil with a higher heat tolerance

[@axion8788]

No one does reviews like you gentlemen. Simply what a review should be. I drive a 2021 Santa Fe Calligraphy. In essence, it is just like this Palisade except it cost a bit less, gets 24 mpg and handles quite well.

[@craigfoster294]

There’s a Hyundai dealer in Madison Wisconsin that’s charging $5000 over MSRP for these vehicles. Anybody that pays over MSRP is a fool. These dealerships should be boycotted.

[@naveenthemachine]

Even if you pay over MSRP you still get a better quality product than most. You still come out ahead

[@bradIeyscarreviews]

Kia and hyundai are garbage

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

MSRP is just a random number kicked by accountants at the car company, isnt it?

[@Ichibuns]

It's odd. The Sorento, Sportage, Tuscon, and others have fantastic hybrid systems. It should be in the Palisade and Telluride. At least an option.

[@PatrixBest]

The Sorento, Sportage and Tucson and others in that class are all considerably smaller than the Palisade. A 1.6T gas engine might not be enough for the Palisade, in which case the limiting factor is that Hyundai / Kia do not currently have a 2L or 2.5L P/HEV system. Additionally, putting a hybrid drivetrain means sacrificing the 5000lbs towing capacity, which I think is one of the selling points of the Palisade

[@markmiller3279]

Well, some kind of hybrid would be nice, and I'm sure when these come up for a full redesign that will be considered. Just dropping in the hybrid powertrain they use in smaller vehicles would be iffy.

[@Ichibuns]

@Pat Best That's what I was thinking. I should've been more clear. My bad lol

[@film-john]

We tried out one of these earlier in the year and I really loved the thing for a people hauler. Very comfortable and I felt like it had decent power for what it was. Tons of room. The dipshit dealer tacked on $12,000 as a market adjustment so we just laughed at them and left.

[@shane6115]

$12,000. The robbing bastard, he should be wearing a balaclava.

[@bogart5131]

12k?.... Huuuu tooo much.... How about Kia telluride? Did you go there?

[@Marcus_972]

Wife got a Telluride last year after trying pretty much every option out there. She absolutely loves it and I loved not spending $20k more on a Tahoe or something. Optioned it out with most everything and it was still only $49-50k

[@Hallowsaw]

They didnt mark it up? Everywhere in md it is marked up

[@Nixonskitchen]

How is the reliability

[@vsrap71]

Does she have to park it outside the garage? 😂

[@smamq]

Genuine question, aren't hyundai known for engine problems? I have owned a 2002 Sonata, which was the worst car ever, and rest all toyota. I don't have much xp with newer cars but all I hear about Hyundai/Kia is bad engines, even the newer ones

[@jgdpsu]

Spot on review. We've had our 23 Calligraphy since August and agree with all. It's certainly not dynamic, but heavy on the comfort, luxury and convenience.

[@CJ-fh5xq]

My dad brought a '23 XRT AWD for $1100 under sticker. He loves it so far. Multiple round trips between Virginia and New York and it did extremely well. 5 people and luggage and it was smooth.

[@rushmoresociety2577]

Hilarious how many comments read one bad thing about a brand, don't listen to the review, and make blanket statements. I guess it's the internet, so people gotta hate, but I say thank goodness a brand is upping the game, making these "family haulers" better than both the cookie cutters AND the lux brands 👍

[@savagegeese]

I almost feel like there is a crew of bots fed by Crypto who come out full force for the Kia and Hyundai videos. It's the only brand that this happens with.

[@oraclemiata845]

Agreed.

[@moloono1]

@@savagegeese Agreed! So many bots saying things like “can’t wait to trade in my Cayenne for a Telluride!” 😂

[@TheChannel1978]

@@savagegeese I can speak from my experience where about 10yrs ago when the i30 was released I test drove one based on 5/5 reviews. It turned out the cabin was uncomfrotably loud at highway speeds something which the reviews didn't mention. I had a feeling Hyundai pushed the narratives their cars are 'great cars', good value for money where as a matter of fact a used luxury drive was a better buy. In this case we bought a 3yrs old 118i and the car had better build quality, fuel economy, technology and drive than the Hyunday. They used to compete on price, maybe they are starting to compete on quality but I think that is what some people are reacting to.

[@GhostTrooper5]

Hands down, the 2020 Palisade we had was one of the best vehicles, dollars to quality, we've ever owned. People who are in the market and not cross-shopping these are hurting themselves. We only sold it because, in 2022, we were being offered in trade-in exactly what we had paid for it new two years and 20,000 miles earlier.

[@KhrissyDaDon]

I’m glad there’s a reviewer that’s honest, Hyundai/Kia has come a long way, but some of the cars are overly gaudy and in your face! But I would admit the Palisade and Santa Fe looks stylish without being offensive like other Korean models.

[@cdrenski526]

Can confirm that the lower headlights will still burn your retinas out. One of these came around the corner last night and I was totally blinded.

[@alexstevens9101]

Disagree about the sound system. Sure, it is not Mercedes Burmester levels, but it is pretty good for the price. About equal to any other upgraded sound system in a mainstream car

[@TheScottAF]

I bought the 2023 Limited and it's my first Hyundai. It is leagues above the competition (save for the Telluride since they're basically the same).

[@Nitroscion]

You need to watch ( the car care nut) review on this car on KZbin. He shows where the did the cost cutting.

[@21Dimen]

@@Nitroscion okay? And everyone does it, even if you buy an S class per se you’ll find cost cuttings if you look for them.

[@Nitroscion]

@@21Dimen From your reply, I can tell that you don’t work in the trades. Yes, every company does cost cutting but when you work on things on a daily basis you will notice poor engineering and/or craftsmanship. You mentioned Mercedes: I can show you a Mercedes that has a spout under the oil drain plug so you don’t get oil everywhere. It’s the attention to detail that you notice and appreciate. With that said; sloppy wields on the exhaust pipe shows the lack of care when a good wield doesn’t cost more.

[@21Dimen]

@@Nitroscion Yet they’re prone to having the most issues. Please. I’ve been in. Many mercedes and they all creaked inside. The plastics do not hold well.

[@21Dimen]

I don’t understand all the brainwashing, yes they’re nice when they dont creak and if they work.

[@Affalterbach1967]

Hyunda makes a hauler good enough to compensate for their dealer experience. Edit: I'm leaving the Hyunda typo as aspirational for Hyundai to be conflated with Honda

[@James-il3tq]

Depends how long you own this and how often you're at the dealership having it serviced 🧒 🔫

[@benjamintran5444]

Also, to compensate for a small chance that it may start a fire and burn down your house if you park it in your garage

[@BigBrotherMars]

I'm out of the loop, what's up with Hyundai's sales/service experience?

[@adamhinckley5062]

@@BigBrotherMars I own an Elantra N and my dad owns a 2017 Tucson. Both cars work and drive great for their intended purpose… but MY god, every SINGLE dealer experience we both have is terrible. When I had my first oil change, I had to make the advisor print off a new work order cause the one her printed had the wrong kind of oil on it… it’s just oversight after oversight. I have worked in many dealerships and currently sell cars at a dealership. If I provided an experience anything close to my sales rep for my Elantra, I would be fired instantly.

[@JohnSmith-me2wg]

@@adamhinckley5062 maybe they put the wrong oil not just printed paperwork wrong? Bmw did that to me and then admitted mistake and changed it to correct one..

[@rolexhulk1774]

Well done guys. Boring isn’t necessarily a bad thing. My 540i is a fun car to drive. This would be a reasonably priced hauler for the grandkids. Will be a serious consideration for sure..

[@CarsMeetsBikes]

540i...fun? SavageGeese would strongly disagree with you on that point lol

[@rolexhulk1774]

@@CarsMeetsBikes they just might but I stand by my opinion - lol...

[@rolexhulk1774]

@@acrabadacra3916 it is indeed. Fully loaded and still has shifter and real buttons - lol..

[@TermlessHGW]

@@rolexhulk1774 I would go for the Honda Pilot without a second thought. It was just upgraded for 2023 so it has all the screens and toys inside, if you care about these things. Bulletproof reliability without sacrificing some fun of driving like you do with Toyota's. The sweet V6 v-tec, real tourqe vectoring AWD.

[@rolexhulk1774]

@@TermlessHGW good to hear. My wife likes the Acura counterpart - MDX. It's about 15K more than the Palisade though. I'll check out some videos on the Pilot. Thanks for the heads-up..

[@celatid6632]

I think your audio standards are a little higher than the layperson. I think the audio is more than adequate, it's not stellar but it's so much better than the stereo in my base model Stinger GT.

[@savagegeese]

Compared to Acura, Volvo, and Toyota it's not good. The other issue is you don't engineer to low standards otherwise this is what you get. Zero tolerance for that.

[@aaronrichards817]

@@savagegeese Acura and Volvo are much better yes, but I don't think Toyota's JBL system sounds better than this. The key with this Harman Kardon system is lowering the mids and moving the centerpoint back a couple of points

[@Mr-ed5ep]

@@savagegeese worse than Toyota? Wow, is that possible? 😳

[@paintedbird6791]

@@savagegeese lower quality than Toyota/ you must have hit hard times and smoking cheap stuff.

[@mkennisebc]

Most intelligent, factual, and opinionated auto review channel I have found.

[@davidr478]

I think they're exaggerating about the sound system or comparing it to the luxury car makers. It sounds pretty good

[@outermarker5801]

Ikr. I'm perfectly happy with a lot of systems he calls 'trash' 🤷‍♂️

[@MrHazz0]

Audiophile here with a Palisade, its not 'crap sounding' its 'weak as hell' there is no dynamic range, frankly its woefully quiet and underpowered. Wife's car tho! :) It sounds ok if it were in a home, but in an auto application (the worst possible audio environment) it is trash.

[@outermarker5801]

@@MrHazz0 What does 'weak' have to do with dynamic range, which is a ratio? A ratio btw heavily dependent on what you're actually listening to even within the technical boundaries of the equipment. This argument about 'trash' sound based on harman curves etc in mass produced tire roaring, wind buffeting midrange family haulers is as nonsensical as taking them extreme offroading and complaining about overheated transmissions. Moot point.

[@dchawk81]

I mean I only have two, 5 inch speakers in my truck and it's fine. I don't need the home theater experience in my vehicles.

[@JackSmith-qi7dr]

@@outermarker5801I must agree with Goose on this subject. We drove the Palisade as well as were driven in a friends Palisade and the sound quality was simply “flat.” No depth nor clarity. Many do not care and that is fine but the sound quality is simply missing.

[@ishaansaral502]

I love that if and when you guys have anything remotely positive to say about Hyundai or Kia, the goblins will come to ruin the comment section with misinformation and hate. It's unhelpful when you're trying to provide your helpful opinions, and stereotypes just pop up. It happens every single time, and its obvious they didn't bother to watch your video. Nice to see you guys being objective and not being afraid to go against the crowd. If nothing else, this video shall prove to be very popular, even if for the wrong reasons.

[@moloono1]

It’s not misinformation that they took a $2 billion loss on profits in Q3 of 2022 due to failing and faulty engine warranty claims. That’s a cold hard fact.

[@ishaansaral502]

@@moloono1 Sure, but how is that relevant to a video on the 2023 Palisade? AFAIK, this has no major recalls or engine issues. Most of the faulty engine claims are for their older cars that were poorly built.

[@moloono1]

@@ishaansaral502 It speaks to the overall poor quality at the manufacturing level. You think they’ve improved? No company can afford to give good styling, good technology, and reliable power trains. They have to cut costs somewhere. We are now seeing evidence of where Kia/Hyundai cut costs ie- reliability.

[@ishaansaral502]

@@moloono1 The engine replacements are mainly for their older cars till 2018. It's not really reasonable to make a blanket statement about a company for mistakes they made in the past. It's smarter to judge models rather than brands. I too can say Hondas suck since their 9 speed transmission is trash and their 1.5T is a shitty engine. Or Toyota sucks since their car wheels fall off and their cables corrode. But that's not reasonable since not all of their models have these issues. Every brand cuts costs. In the Palisade, they mainly use steel and the driving dynamics aren't amazing. I think those are the right costs to cut since their buyers don't care about driving dynamics or the powertrain. Hyundai also manufactures their own steel and most parts of the production is done in-house. That's how they also undercut their competition and add more features.

[@moloono1]

@@ishaansaral502 Buddy, if you put your trust in a company with engine failures and fire problems being announced every year for more than five years now, affecting the owners of more than 8.5 million vehicles, spanning from 2012 to 2021 manufacture years, that’s shutting down their ICE r&d and manufacturing due to these known issues…then that’s on you, LMFAO I’m not going to tell you how to spend your money.

[@Poise716]

I just rested an Elantra and the assisted driving stuff in these things was amazing.

[@davidstrong8361]

I had a 2011 Outback that was souless. It was like driving Dad's buick, but didn't ride as well. I bought a 2017 Escape AWD 2.0, and love it! My wife has an '18 Santa Fe Ultimate, which is a nice car too, but I prefer the Ford, as it's an appliance with spirit. It is a shame the Hyundai/Kia stealerships are so bad. Have had to go back 3 times for oil changes as they do not replace the filters!

[@sharonbraselton4302]

buy subary hybred eltriç

[@hipposnakeyo]

I’m waiting to see what the Mazda cx 90 brings to the table.

[@FreshYoungDude]

Mark when asked about his hoodie upgrade from Patagonia - “it’s called fashion sweetie. Look it up. “

[@Tetsujin-28]

Kirkland hoodie? Great content as always.

[@SamSB250]

Right now, I'm driving the Kia Telluride. i can tell you i love this car for my family. in 4 more year when my lease is up I will be getting Palisade for sure, since I really don't like the face change of telluride. (I hope they can come out with a hybrid version.)

[@redwhite_040]

How many do you pay for lease in the US and for how many km/miles a year? I'm just interested, compared to the Netherlands/European market.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

me too

[@DavidRamseyIII]

Weird, I have been waiting for Savagegeese to review this car.. that I have no interest in buying. Brilliant channel

[@Funghuy]

Probably one of the best/honest reviews I’ve seen….

[@geraldcarroll8394]

I hope Hyundai creates an N-Spec High Performance model and tighten up the suspension and handling.

[@av_oid]

“Can’t lose aside the dealer experience…”. Stated with obvious experience (that matches mine).

[@naveenthemachine]

Dealer experience is a minor flaw. You can have the worst experience and get a better car than some

[@MichaelKim505]

Thank you for this great review. My 2022 calligraphy FWD usually gets 26 - 27 mpg on the highway.

[@bfish9700]

This looks amazing. The only improvements I'd like to see are an actual pano roof and the removable middle second row seat like the pilot/MDX. It's really hard to justify MDX/QX60 with this being so good and 10-15k less. Looking to get one of these this time next year (getting bent over by dealers is a concern).

[@dndodd100]

Except it is boring to drive with a lousy stereo.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@dndodd100 but it’s still better to drive than a highlander

[@googleleavemynamealone9145]

This probably drives wayyyy worse than the MDX, and the MDX even has a twin turbo V6 in it's Type-S version

[@dndodd100]

@@naveenthemachine Maybe but my 2018 Honda odyssey is better to drive than my previous 2016 highlander. My 23 MDX Type S is better to drive than all three and the 2017 Cayenne it replaced.

[@ishaansaral502]

@@dndodd100 sure but the MDX has a horrendous interior with piano black plastic and terrible ergonomics. Not fitting for a luxury marque when the new Pilot looks nicer inside.

[@smartkid1201]

Hyundai didn't know how big of a hit this would be! Definitely a lot of car for your money; features, warranty, looks, reliability etc. Can't even imagine how Hyundai will improve it for the 2nd generation lol

[@dchawk81]

Yeah it's for people who really want a Tahoe or Navigator but don't have 80-100 grand.

[@dchawk81]

That's not a dig, btw. 80 grand is insane for an SUV.

[@long_fellow]

These things catch fire like crazy!

[@paulpen1984]

Its certain year models with theta 2 engine (I think 2.4l). Palisade only comes with 3.8l v6, which has no history of fire.

[@PatricBoulard]

That Costco sponsorship! When you run a Palisade you more than likely go to Costco!

[@tinhatrancher904]

My co workers wife just bought this SUV. Dark blue finished with tan interior. She put larger 22 inch wheels on it. So far so good. She loves it. Good job. Great review. Dig the price.

[@abid77]

Kirkland signature 😂 agreed ! High value to dollar ratio! Great package at 50k

[@zenon3021]

this is the best car review/er ever - straight forward, honest, and unbiased :)

[@DoctorSkillz]

Luxury features at a lower price point?! That reminds me of my Vincero™️ luxury wristwatch.

[@915tarponlegend]

I got a 2023 Palisade Calligraphy for my family. It’s still a lot of money but it’s amazing. Can’t beat it unless you wanna pay $70k.

[@Sheepleton]

The front is atrocious but the side profile makes up for it. I'd consider it if we needed a third row vehicle, it's definitely a good value.

[@ravipeiris4388]

As the driver of a 2011 V12 Maybach, my car 🚗 has presence. Seeing the Palisade on the road, this vehicle looks great and also has a sense of presence which impressed me greatly.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

chief has the naybaçh ç12 too

[@devongee1776]

Hyundai and Kias HDA & HDA2 is top of the class but they're not going to do the job correctly/comfortably if you're speeding. If the speed limit I'd 65, and you're doing 90... you should expect the vehicle doesn't perform in that environment as well by itself. Driving with the EV6 going the speed limit to and from work everyday has been basically effortless even with some broken up/choppy line work (Pennsylvania trademark). But speed limit does matter. Coming up to a bend rated to be taken at 55mph is gonna look way different to the computer than if you were trying to do the same at 75mph.

[@makingtechsense126]

I have a 2022 Hyundai Palisade Calligraphy. It meets my needs and the features for the price are amazing.

[@razhua]

what a true indictment to dealerships on the final thoughts, " you really can't loose aside from may be the dealer experience" I really wish there was an easier way to deal with purchasing a new car other than the dealers.

[@BarnStangz]

I'm really far how far you guys have come, and now sponsored by Kirkland Signature!? Wow, congratulations Mark!

[@will0775]

As a Costco employee who has the same shirt I approve this comment.

[@CollegeFootballNerds]

I own a 22 Palisade and put 33,000 miles on it in a year. Haul 3 kids and am a sports car obsessed nut (owned a C63s AMG, Audi S6, M5). I love this car. We had a minivan and this is superior in almost every way. And compared to the big American SUVs like the Tahoe and the Explorer, this is m-u-c-h easier to park. And has as much 3rd row leg room. People don't think about having to park their giant SUVs but then they have tight parking lots for gymnastics practice with kids everywhere and it's a nightmare. Ultra reliable and I actually had a decent dealership experience (exception to the norm I know). Everything about this car just works. Lower plastics are cheap and the armrest is cheap. The one thing I hate about my 22 that they fixed in 23 is the rear climate controls are in the infotainment and it's sluggish. Nothing worse than having to wait 15 seconds after you press the rear button to get your soft climate controls on the screen. Overall tremendous vehicle.

[@BigBrotherMars]

Sweet, were there any issues with servicing, maintenance or fire risk?

[@gs98999]

Another obsessed car nut here with more than 20 vehicles purchases in last 25 years, also 3 kids, trading in a minivan for one of these at the end of 2019. It beat out all others easily with features and space. But, our experience with it wasn't great. Excessive wind noise, USBs not working, shifter not working, rattles, failing to start, rough idle on start. Too many issue to deal with through horrible dealers. Traded in for a Toyota product earlier this year.

[@CollegeFootballNerds]

@@BigBrotherMars Only one issue that required service - liftgate hinge broke, replaced under warranty. I went in for every scheduled maintenance (all free), and my dealership experiences were very good - but probably the exception. I also bought in August 22 and didn't have to pay dealer markup. Really good dealer. No other problems with the Palisade in 33k miles. No wind noise issues or seat smell issues. I think both were sorted out by the time mine was made.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

buy m5

[@CollegeFootballNerds]

@@sharonbraselton4302 What year? Currently looking for an 18/19

[@mrtyrang]

If you think the audio system in this Palisade sucks then you have no idea how bad the system in my 2017 Pilot EX-L is.

[@savagegeese]

The Honda systems are on another level bad. The worst we ever tested was Ridgeline. My phone speaker rivals that.

[@petegalindez9961]

Thanks for reviewing guys…bummed about the stereo…was hoping it was better. Also wished you guys gave more detail on comparing it to the Telluride…I just don’t get how the Telluride gets all the attention and is in such short supply compared to the Palisade given they share roots…

[@petegalindez9961]

@@SkeletalMisunderstanding I’ve driven both a few times…they do look different. Not sure it’s better. That’s personal preference, and I don’t think it’s lopsided. Rugged interior is also personal preference…some like that, others want more plush/luxury inside…I have a Wagoneer that doesn’t have side view mirrors that don’t fold in…not that big a deal and it’s a wider car. I do prefer a manual 3rd row…fewer things to break…Other than that, I though the Palisade was a smoother ride in the few different rides I took in it…my neighbor has one…

[@omanyaki402]

Mark, this was an excellent video and I just also saw your GV80 video too. I just love the no crap and all facts approach -simply wow on your video and content making. I’m leaving a loved 2014 Navigator and bouncing between wanting a 3rd row or wanting an EV. I test drove a calligraphy and immediately felt the cushy ride - you called it soft. I looked at the GV80 and was impressed but fearful of a useless 3rd row. I’ve been researching the EX90 but saw your video on your 2019 XC90 and that gave me the same shakes as I’ve been having about the 2020 Discovery. Ok, I now got the “rock climbing capability “ out of my head. While I’m concerned about the similar miles/gallon that’s not too far from the Navigator - the Navigator is a Flex fuel boat which helped on fuel costs, my biggest issues - based on your thoughts on this video are 1) the audio system and 2) the handling which reminded me of my Acura Legend long ago. I’m an audiophile (with high-end bespoke analog systems and high-end solid-state at home). Assuming there’s no way to replace the audio system on the Palisade Calligraphy -sounds like I’d go mad listening to music in it; should I just go look at a different car? Thanks!!

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@maldo72]

we looked into this vehicle... and hate to say it Hyundai is no longer a cheaper option anymore.. Dealers know people come over there thinking they are going to get a better deal than other brands but bang people over the head with pricing or finance deals so you end up spending more... I chose the Nissan Pathfinder over this ... we got a much better deal with similar options and space and felt the driving experience is much better....

[@Tool0GT92]

New pathfinder looks good

[@maldo72]

@@Tool0GT92 to me it's a better deal rides better and has more power ... gas mpg ok for segment

[@mark8684]

I agree with you. Only thing you’re missing is the longer warranty. I think the Pathfinder Platinum is a better value.

[@maldo72]

@@mark8684 unless someone is driving a ton of miles i lease these piles....and get rid of them before warranty is up.. ... if one wants to buy these piles out right then I would buy the "facorty brand" extended warranty. Not aftermarket warrenty which will save u a ton of money long term. Like most... for my daily I am at the point of my life that I don't want to worry if its going to start in the moring and the fact that all cars have gotten so complicated and treat it like a appliancebecuase the prices of cars have gone up so much to buy new it's not worth keeping them... past 3-5 years becuase when shit goes wrong it gets expense quick ...

[@krane15]

As far as the dealer experience, good news. Kia/Hyundai have already told us they intent to ramp up production (for the Telluride anyway) to over 120,000 units so there shouldn't be any excuses from dealers for increased prices due to any shortages. I do agree the too frequent changes just as you get used to it. Too frequent changes lower resale value, and keeps these cars from ever gaining any true personalty. One more thing, I wish they offered more seat controls for the passenger so when drivers swap on long trips, even tall owners can still get comfortable and relax before they switch back. I'd gladly pay a couple hundred extra for that. While I'm making a wish list, thigh extension for the rear seats too. Something you can just pull out to gain an inch or so more. Being a 6'4 guy, I can't say how many times I wished the second row seat cushions had just an inch more thigh support to take the weight off my long aching knees. I realized that from being the passenger on daily commutes in mini vans.

[@PatrixBest]

Kia/Hyundai might intend to ramp up production but they've already sold out the entirety of the 2023 production. It's all on backorder for probably another year still and dealers will be lucky if they have a single Palisade available per month. Not that I'm justifying marking them up, mind you, but some of them definitely will.

[@krane15]

@@PatrixBest Well that's not what I heard. According to my source there should be more than enough production and inventory to match demand. In any event, if what you say is true, notify the manufacture. They have some influence over dealers charging exorbitant makeup fees. Also, don't forget to shop around, even if it mean leaving your area if the deal is better. I'm not planning on buying for another 6 months, so by that time I hope all this shortage nonsense will has been sorted out. Otherwise, I'll be shopping somewhere else. I most certainly will not never pay over the MSRP for any car, since even that much is a profit for the dealer. Beyond that, is just pure greed and I won't be the sucker that supports it.

[@PatrixBest]

@@krane15 I say this as someone who works at a dealer, albeit in Canada and not the US. I'd love to be able to tell my customers that production is up to snuff but unfortunately that is absolutely not the case. I've delivered 2 Palisades this month for customers that have been waiting for them for almost 7 months. We only received one to actually add to our stock, and we don't even have the option of placing any more orders. 2023 production is full and 2024 has not started. And again, just to clarify, I'm not justifying markups. We don't do it at my dealership. But the market, or at least the Canadian market, will continue to be starved of Palisades and most other vehicles till at least next summer

[@akhere07]

​@Pat Best how is the condition now after 4months? Also which dealer/location are you from in Canada?

[@alexandergoldman]

Aside from the exaggeration about the sound system (c'mon dude, this sound system is going to be fine for 99% of the people out there), pretty fair assessment. The usual harping about the dealer experience. I went to my local Hyundai dealership and was really impressed with the test drive and sales people... There are douchebag sales reps at EVERY dealership for ANY brand...

[@blueshark3098]

True. I bought a Genesis G70 earlier this year at a combined Hyundai/Genesis dealer in SoCal, and so far, the dealership experience has been surprisingly not bad, but then I am not coming from a luxury brand on my before vehicles. Anyhoo. . . . . pleasant salesmen and finance guys, fair value on my trade-in, and a Great service manager so far. Maybe I've been lucky, or maybe I just had low expectations anyway. . . .

[@alexandergoldman]

@@blueshark3098 Nice and thanks for sharing. Went to my local Genny dealership and was REALLY impressed at the service I received. I spoke with the GM and the saleswoman was really professional and thoughtful. She let me open the GV70 up on a straight road.. It's as good as the best experience I've had at other dealerships..

[@al151]

No there is a software issue. Have a 24 and it sounded horrible before the update!

[@cpg8000]

I still think about “that girl in high school”. I’m 43.

[@johnasbury9915]

It seems like it always raining on you guys on the road driving portions… even in the rain you guys RULE!

[@austinfrazier7325]

Hyundai has completely left the Honda Pilot behind. The first gen did and this 2nd gen does compared to the new 2023 Pilot. I’m a 19 Pilot owner and it’s borderline embarrassing at how Honda has let down the Pilot.

[@mark8684]

Yes, and the new 23 Pilot is overpriced as well!

[@thehumungus1985]

Great review as usual!

[@rondail5675]

I think it is impressive, as a family hauler.

[@skurtov]

How does the new Atlas stack up against it

[@Voraciousvoyager]

The school girl reference , excellent

[@Threxx]

I'm surprised that you only got 22-23 mpg on your highway road trip. I've been getting around 28-29 mpg with our 23 Calligraphy on the highway, and 22-23 in the city. In fact my close friend just got a 23 Highlander Hybrid and told me his first road trip with it he only got 29 mpg with cruise set to 82mph. Granted, I was averaging 75 mph in our Palisade, but for his hybrid Highlander to get the same MPG as our non-hybrid palisade while only going 7mph faster on the highway was shocking to me.

[@PatrixBest]

Well he does keep slamming on the gas as he drives

[@foxlake6750]

Hybrids are very efficient in the city, but because the engine runs more often on the hwy, the mpg is good, but not fantastic. That’s why the Highlander Hybrid is rated 35 city/35 hwy.

[@PatrixBest]

@@foxlake6750 correct, without frequent braking, the battery does not get as much charging and the electric motor cannot participate as much in moving the vehicle so the gas engine has to pick up the slack

[@dchawk81]

I mean watch how he pulls out from a stop sign. Lol. Surprised he got 22.

[@Andrew-zx9wx]

Seems like a steal within its segment. Enjoy the V6 sounds while you still can!

[@KliFinancial]

I feel like they took a page out of volvos book when I look at this interior

[@billystpaul8907]

The interior looks really nice with a nice dash board. From the oustide, it kinda looks like a baby Tahoe...

[@DanDan-tt6gv]

I see many Palisades on the road, and for good reason. Too bad I enjoy driving way too much, and that has cost me… if it wasn’t the case, I would for sure be driving one of this.

[@al151]

Sound system is bad due to a software issue on 23 and 24 model years. You have to do an OTA update to resolve most of the issue but then the Bass Boost option is not there and there should be another OTA to fix that. I am currently an owner of a 24 calligraphy with beige interior. Amazing suv.

[@epicwolf]

My wife refused to drive a mini van and prefer to drive a big suv. This car is perfect for people like that. People who buy these kind of cars are not into the way it drives. They are more into the luxury aspect of it and how many human beings they can squeeze in it for vacation trips or having kids so being a boring driving car is fine. I wont be seeing this car on a race track anytime soon. However, the only reason why hesitated to buy this car is that it is a Korean brand car. I always heard of the reliability of Kia and Huyndai. They are amazing doing luxury and you get huge bang for your buck but whats the point of having all that luxury when you be spending more time in an auto shop than on vacation? Thats why I hate owning Landrovers. Amazing luxury but a peace of trash.

[@singular9]

At least its an NA v6. GDI sure, but gumout every 5k miles should do the trick.

[@kayakkevin]

Still waiting for VW Atlas review. Its a lower cost competitor which makes a lot of sense when you see markups of these things.

[@James-il3tq]

Too bad you can't get this anywhere and dealership sales/service experience is brutal.

[@BigBrotherMars]

I'm out of the loop, what's up with Hyundai's sales/service experience?

[@Tool0GT92]

@@BigBrotherMars Hyundai thinks they are selling Ferrari's

[@jjvegas666]

Strange my 2021 palisade FWD limited has averaged 26 to 27 on the highway avg 70 to 75 mph for the entire time I've had it. And I personally love the stereo system so I'm not sure what he is comparing it against but I'm a musician with an ear for detail and I think it's great. I'm looking forward to getting a new 2024 when my lease is up. I've tried all the competition and none of them come close to the palisade.

[@Clearcup]

All this is true. My wife and I have a 21 Telluride and on any somewhat bumpy rd the front end feels like it’s COMPLETELY disconnected to the vehicle. As if they didn’t even hand tighten the bolts to the parts and parts to the frame. It’s definitely not a off-roader in the least. I’d say a horse and buggy feel more connected than the front end of the car. But everything else is true.

[@zhiyako4032]

Are there any SUVs that you've driven with a better riding experience than the telluride?

[@ishaansaral502]

@Zhiyako The Telluride serves its purpose as a family cruiser. The competition is definitely worse in isolation and comfort. No one should look for driving dynamics in large, heavy 3 row SUVs. That's why the Telluride is the leader for 3 years straight.

[@Clearcup]

@@zhiyako4032 we looked at three did SUV’s. Telluride, Same year model Pilot, and a newish 4Runner, but you couldn’t even put a stroller in the back with the back row up. But with the telluride you could. Way more space than the Honda and Toyota. Probably a better ride too. We get roughly 22-24mpg. Obviously the Toyota ain’t gonna get that. It’s purpose is a little more off-roadie than the family haulers like the telluride.

[@zhiyako4032]

@@Clearcup Thank you! Hope you're enjoying your Telluride

[@Clearcup]

@@ishaansaral502 unlike what they say in the video, I think the Telluride rides pretty flat on curvy roads. And we weren’t looking for an off-road machine in the Telluride, but the place they had these guy testing it was in Telluride Colorado. That’s not a flat surface. So they kinda put it out there at a vehicle that you can go off a beaten path with. I wouldn’t in the slightest. Gravel rd, sure. Off-road? Nope. Light snow, sure, but we like it.

[@davidryder3374]

"If you were in heavy traffic...like 80-75mph and you just want to turn off your brain..." Thanks for putting into words exactly what's wrong with American drivers today.

[@krane15]

The machines are far, far, safer.

[@ghoulbuster1]

What you mean "Today"? Americans turn off their brain every day.

[@TheAbdullah1986]

Thanks!

[@benjaminmatlock3232]

The fine print for this car and its 6:11 Kia twin is the out the door price. At MSRP, these are fantastic offerings. But as you’ve remarked in the past, their dealership network isn’t exactly great, or at least consistently good, and combined with a hot product, they were, and still are, asking huge markups. We personally considered this platform, but the value proposition was simply lost with untenable market adjustments in the California region.

[@priyanthc0]

I wish they put it in sport mode and tested it too. Cause in sport mode there is lot of difference in the vehicle's character.

[@omanyaki402]

They were driving it in sport mode - when you saw him punch it and joked about the handling..the dial was at 12 o’clock which is the sport mode.

[@uv4jjj]

My 2021 3.5 awd highlander struggles to get 18 mpg city

[@abcdLeeXY]

Great products. I will never step into a Hyundai/kia dealership though.

[@AliMohammed-wq7hb]

Thank you very much, Which better Nissan Pathfinder or Hyundai palisade, quite, comfort, engine power.

[@NoOne56488]

Australian Palisade gets an Infinity sound system which is very clear and has very decent bass(coming from a guy who has a kick ass custom system in his weekend car that cost a lot) For me it was no hybrid crap, and non turbo with decent power (we only get FWD in Aus with the V6) and handles very well. Seems like Australia might get a little bit of a different suspension tune as mine corners very well with almost no body roll. No premiums fuels needed, get around 9l per 100 (26mpg) and 8l per 100(29mpg) on freeway driving. The AWD system might be a factor in your fuel consumption. Mine is the top spec in Aus, the highlander which has a front sun roof and the moon roof in the back, plus nappa leather and swede roof liner, manual adjusted headlights, 360 camera. Only thing that really annoys me is that you have to keep turning off the lane keeping assistant and speed warning crap which drives me nuts as it keeps beeping at you non stop for going a tiny bit over the limit. overall a 8/10 (would be 10/10 if it was RWD)

[@axeloco234]

In love with this one

[@jasonyoung6420]

We bought a Sorento PHEV two months ago & have put a little over 2000 miles on it; first tank of gas my wife averaged 90mpg, second tank she averaged 96mpg. I took it on a Costco & shopping run Sunday and got the average up to 140mpg (from 99mpg). I can't imagine buying something that gets ~20mpg for a family hauler/Costco runner. We'll run it for 10yrs/100,000mi, then dump it and get some other NPC family hauler, by then it might be fully electric.

[@krane15]

Insufficient data. You're being disingenuous. That ultra high gas mileage only lasts as long as both ICE and EV are working in consort. Fine if all your trips are within that range. However, once the battery is depleted, the mileage becomes worse than the ICE only version.

[@mark8684]

Krane15 is correct! After about 30 miles when the battery is depleted, it operates like a normal hybrid, however the mileage is worse due to the extra weight of the larger battery that the vehicle is carrying.

[@donswier]

PHEVs are great: 30 miles = over 10,000 miles annually gas-free. - Never hostage on long trips to public charging that's often ICED, occupied or vandalized. - Residential electricity often costs 20% per mile what gasoline does.

[@legatus9081]

7:50 a mazdaspeed 3? can't really tell it's blurry

[@oregonhighway]

Good catch, I believe you're right 👍

[@zafarnamah]

@savagegeese Would you spend $50K on 2023 Hyundai Palisade or a used 2020 GLS 450 with 50K miles?

[@landonjennings-stoyles9804]

Great option for family

[@papa_pt]

legislate maximum headlight heights. I. E. tall cars will just need to look extra dopey with normal car height headlights

[@zareff]

That Kirkland hoodie, I'm sure the association with the car is no accident.

[@Evo906]

Own a 2015 Toyota Sequoia with 187k miles. Gobbles fuel I know but the only problem I had was the AC compressor which I had to recently replace. I doubt this would be as reliable although I'm considering it.

[@BigBrotherMars]

I'm out of the loop, what's up with Hyundai's sales/service experience?

[@charlesjackson1700]

They are okay to lease.. If you want to buy a car and keep for a while stay away from Korean brands they are two problematic and have major issues.

[@rushmoresociety2577]

::: someone's uncle's friends third cousin had a bad dealer experience, and Charles thinks it's everyone.

[@BigBrotherMars]

@@rushmoresociety2577 that's the power of word of mouth for ya

[@BigBrotherMars]

@@charlesjackson1700 I'm seriously considering the Palisade as a first SUV. Are the problems as bad as they say?

[@moloono1]

@@BigBrotherMars Real talk: In Q3 of 2022 alone, Kia lost 55% of their profits and Hyundai lost 77% of their profits due to warranty claims on their faulty and failing engines, $2 billion in total. Stay away from this brand and don’t buy into the hype.

[@CU08]

My turbo 4cyl 2020 RDX SH-AWD can't even manage 22MPG combined, so the small displacement engines aren't necessarily great for MPGs either. How Honda was able to make their engines so thirsty (the new 3.0T in their Type-S's are thirstier than some V8s) is beyond me.

[@ghoulbuster1]

Because turbo means more air and more airs means more gas.

[@TheChannel1978]

@@ghoulbuster1 Well in theory the turbo+smaller capacity engine saves gas. If it doesn't it's a bad engine. That is part of the reason you pay more for German brands, their engines and drive trains have good power and good fuel economy. When corners are cut you see it in the fuel economy always.

[@ghoulbuster1]

@@TheChannel1978 Turbo engines are only fuel efficient if you drive them right at the efficiency peak, that's around the point the turbo spools up to max and makes the most torque. But if you go over that, it quickly starts consuming more gas because of how turbos work. If you drive a turbo engine at very high RPMs it can use more gas than a bigger displacement engine.

[@Maxwell1989]

They working on an update to fix the audio issues of the low volume also you can put it in surround sound mode in the settings