2023 Acura Integra | It's Not the 90s Anymore

[@cartilagehead]

I don’t really like this car as an Integra, but I actually do really like it as sort of a Grand Tourer version of a Civic Si. Like if you’re somebody with a family and maybe you want something a bit more plush and luxe than the Civic, but still relatively sporty and with a great manual gearbox (and maybe marginally larger and more reliable than a GTI) this could be a solid option. Honda/Acura definitely missed a trick by not giving it SH-AWD tho

[@SantanKGhey1234]

my problem with this is that Acura has that image of "look at me, luxury nameplate... but im not really...im a still an econobox Honda"... Honda should honesly ditch the Acura nameplate and keep everything Honda.... its such a failure of a brand all together

[@mtnman1984]

@@SantanKGhey1234 that would work just fine for enthusiasts like us, but the prestige of a nameplate is worth a lot. The VW Phaeton is the prime example. They built a better Audi, but nobody wanted a super posh VW. Contrast that with the BMW X1.

[@CP-vg4vy]

@@SantanKGhey1234 its just the integra tho, pretty sure everything else is built on Acura platforms. I thought the same until I drove a 2020 RDX, these things are great vehicles and nothing like hondas.

[@dougrobinson8602]

At a $9000.00 upcharge from a Civic Si, you have to wonder where the money went. Okay, the interior is nicer, and electronically adjustable damping. Can you really justify it over the Si? I couldn't. The depreciation may be less, (although a Civic Si will probably do well), but aside from that, this car is a hard sell. 200hp at 6,000rpm doesn't exactly send tingles down my spine, either. Give them credit for having a manual transmission available. Enthusiasts have spoken, and we don't want CVT's or autos. Looking at the pedal box, it looks like a wide space between brake and throttle. I wonder how it is to heel and toe?

[@MK4vDubbin]

You nailed it. This isn’t a bad car at all by itself but it was a colossal marketing/branding blunder on Acura by calling this an Integra.

[@NurseNicholas]

Other car reviewers just don’t compare, the quality and effort is unmatched

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

very professional journalism, I have to agree. They do a better Job than what one would read in the News

[@sephiros9883]

It's just unfortunate it doesn't translate into 2M subscribers. They won't be able to sustain this effort....

[@FOXHOUND4143]

This is easily the best car channel on YT. The effort expended and production quality is just the best, bar non. Automotive journalism par excellence.

[@sa1f43]

Agreed

[@hewasdeadwhenigotthere46]

Been that way since day 1

[@John-vh1fk]

By far, savage geese is the best reviewer out there. The level of detail and being able to speak from the buyers mind is the best out there. Bringing Jack in really elevated this channel further. Mark is fantastic but hearing he and Jack go back and forth discussing their differing opinions is so enjoyable and gives consumers different vantage points.

[@АнтонГеращенко-р6ь]

We were given a clean sheet of paper - and created a long four-door liftback. What a waste of such a good chance, knowing what an icon Integras became. This one is great (if we forget the badge), but will not be remembered by anyone; the old one will. It's not the 90s anymore: it's market all the way now. Great talk and excellent video though, thanks.

[@peterjazii6925]

It’s weird man. They shouldn’t have named it integra.

[@d1gw33d]

I don't know what Honda is thinking... now or in the recent past. Their designs are just... bland.

[@piccinini12521]

Yeah, there is no way to excuse it, and millennials are literally the fans of the original because it was sporty and lightweight, how can they think they only care about looks.

[@Mexxx65]

What model civic hatch is this again guys?

[@ryand4533]

I don’t believe they were given a “clean sheet” it looks like all their cars today! They even made the NSX look like their SUV it’s all sadness and won’t sell well.

[@effa114]

Great interview Mark. Respectful, but tough questions. Huge respect to you for including more and more of these behind the scenes segments.

[@Shiba_Inu_Des]

Just a budget- focused, recycled Civic. Honda/Acura is behind Toyota and Nissan when creating the older classic street car. Would not buy it…

[@georgelaflare]

@@Shiba_Inu_Des not really. They still have the type s and type r vehicles

[@TheBonsaiZone]

Wow, this is so much different from the Honda Civic hatch....I mean it's 2 percent stiffer, what more do you want!!!

[@phu5005]

They had me at 1.9% more.

[@joshuas3897]

@@phu5005 😂🤣😂

[@jaythomasni]

Tremendous sound with lows, highs and mids clearly defined. The Road noise that is.

[@helsinkirules]

Noticed that too. Can't enjoy 'premium' audio with that much road noise coming through

[@non-fictionaltoughguy1208]

Lmaoooo

[@myemailiscool]

that is a hallmark of the civic and it sucks that it's followed through on this car, i was really hoping they'd improve NVH and add more sound deadening. kills a car for me

[@666cemetaryslut]

Typical Honda

[@cornholioyo725]

I guess you guys have never watched car reviews … the camera picks up different frequencies… go watch a Mercedes s class review or 7 series bmw , they sound as loud as this in the interior on camera …

[@subukai]

I was an owner of 1998 Acura Integra GS-R.. brand new and owned it for 6 years. I am not a modder and did not turbo, add exhausts etc. I did an an AEM intake which did make a difference in the seat feeling or maybe it was just the insane noise from the engine. I was not easy on the car but did not officially drag race on a track. I found the car a blast and reminisce the days I owned it. I think the heart of the Integra was the amazing and almost bullet proof engine. B18C. This engine was coveted by modders and non-modders. That engine got legendary status due to all the mod enthusiasts. Do I see that with this Integra? I do not think so. A manufacturer has to compromise when making a car that has to profit as well as try to cater to the enthusiast. I think the B18C days was unique for that time. I do need to test drive it though to get my a** confirmation. I rarely comment and I take it for granted the work you put in to these videos. Excellent video production.

[@cancel.lgbtq.6892]

I still own 2000 GSR. Bought it brand new , no mod , no nothing. You have no idea how many people asked me if I want to sell my baby. Someone tried to steal it one time while I parked at the mall. I was excited when I heard Acura will come out with new Integra but after seeing this rebadged ILX , I decided to keep my old car.

[@subukai]

@@cancel.lgbtq.6892 I sometimes I think about the trade in for it. I got a Infiniti 2004 G35 sedan with Six speed manual and put 140k+ miles on it. I then gave the G35 to my cousin instead of trading it in. I was even thinking of getting the new Civic Si .. still pondering.

[@2strokeFORever]

@@cancel.lgbtq.6892 same here I wanted the new integra to park next my DC5 but at 37k for a manual version plus the markups I am just holding off

[@cancel.lgbtq.6892]

@@subukai Why not get the new Z instead? Or for the money of Si , get WRX.

[@subukai]

​@@cancel.lgbtq.6892 After my experience with Infiniti I am not a huge fan of Nissan products. Sorry for the Z fans. I test drove a 2019 WRX and it did not feel exciting to me.... the little Civic Si felt like more fun.. This was a couple years back so not sure what the current 2022 stuff is like. The 2018 VW GTI felt way more fun .. but somewhat skeptical of the VW brand.

[@organizedgopher]

From an owner of a Civic Si and a 6-Speed Integra A-Spec w/Technology… 50+ Integra upgrades and differences from US Civic (2024) I traded my Civic Si (2020) for a 2024 6-speed Integra. Below are the differences between the 2024 Integra 6-speed and the 2024 Civic Si that helped sway my decision. As you can see below, there are way more differences (57 at last count) than are spoken of in any KZbin videos. Hope this helps those of you trying figure out the differences. BTW, as a former Si driver, I have ZERO regrets. The Integra retains the fun-factor of my Si, but also gives me all the premium upgrades I was missing-such a great real-world daily driver. My Si was a great car, but I’m enjoying the Integra more. Features not available on ANY ‘24 Civic: 1. Every body panel unique to Integra 2. 5.3” color windshield Heads Up Display 3. 16 Speaker ELS Studio 3D system with ceiling speakers 4. Microsuede front seats 5. Remote with brushed metallic trim 6. 12-way power driver seat with lumbar 7. Auto walk-up/welcome lighting feature 8. Lighted exterior door handles (all 4) 9. Lighted interior door handles (front) 10. Ambient LED footwell lights 11. Ambient LED door accent 12. 4 drive modes (including individual) 13. Aluminum bezel around shift boot 14. Adaptive suspension (3 settings) 15. 2-driver memory (seat & mirrors) 16. Auto slide driver seat upon exit 17. Beefier horn (Yes!!! Thank you) beep-beep vs meep-meep 18. Premium “tick tock” turn signal click 19. Unique “Jewel Eye” LED headlights 20. Longer warranties (both years & miles) 21. More rigid chassis 22. Standard A-Spec door sill badges 23. A-Spec badge on steering wheel 24. Frameless rear view mirror (auto-dim) 25. Leather ctr console trim (knee guard) 26. Unique shift knob (flat top vs rounded) 27. Diamond pattern vents (vs honeycomb) 28. Gloss (vs flat black) B and C pillar 29. Wider, longer body 30. Heated side mirrors w/ signals & reverse tilt feature 31. Full LED ext lighting (incl rear turn sig) 32. Full LED int lighting (incl hatch area) 33. WiFi hotspot 34. Functional bumper vents/air curtains 35. More sound dampening material 36. Acura cam cover 37. Form-fitted battery blanket 38. Advanced front side airbags 39. Advanced front knee airbags 40. Rear seat LED-lighted window switches Features not available on the ‘24 Civic Si: 1. Parking sensors front & rear 2. Rain-sensing wipers 3. Power driver seat 4. Power passenger seat 5. Dual zone auto climate control 6. Liftback design w/ more cargo space 7. Full 10.2” digital instrument cluster 8. Leather door trim 9. Leather arm rests w/contrast stitching 10. Rear USB outlets 11. Fog lights 12. Blinker in side mirrors 13. Heated seats 14. Qi Wireless phone charging mat 15. Alexa built-in 16. Sunglasses holder 17. Different tuning (according to Acura) UPDATE: Things I’ve learned after putting 3,000+ miles on the Integra: - The Integra is missing the occasional dash rattles that my Civic Si had. It may have better fitment, adhesives, or quality control. At any rate, I’m very impressed, because that was a concern of mine during the buying process. - In sport mode and on the same roads, my Integra feels as peppy as my Si, but like the Si, the Integra isn’t built for all out performance. - For the first 3,000 miles I have averaged over 35 mpg on premium. I have mixed city and highway on my commute. I occasionally open it up for a pull, but drive conservatively most of the time. On the interstate I’ve averaged over 40 mpg. Thrash it a lot and you’ll likely STILL get high 20’s. - I knew the ELS Studio 3D system was highly rated. But even so, I am floored every single day when I hear nuances in my favorite playlists and songs that I never noticed before because the previous systems just couldn’t do it. I had upgraded my Si with JL Audio mid-range and both Infinity and Kicker subs-the Si sounded way better than stock. However, this ELS system is not only in a different ballpark, it’s on a different planet. I read from a car reviewer that outside of Acura you can’t get this level of sound unless you fork out $60,000 or more. That, I can’t confirm. However, I can easily say it’s the best I’ve ever heard-and I’ve been in many cars. The Bose I had in my GMC Yukon pales in comparison. - So far, the only thing I miss from my Si since buying the Integra is the center console. The Integra’s armrest storage bin is a bit smaller. 5k miles now and still VERY happy. The Integra hit the sweet spot for me for affordable luxury and fun.

[@cartilagehead]

It’s 2% stiffer than the civic sedan you guys

[@v8_sami]

lol

[@NotUrDJ]

You noob you missed the part about it being 5 percent more stiffer than the civic hatchback!

[@AudiRSAvant]

😱

[@dancremering1198]

Omg.... lmao

[@cartilagehead]

@@NotUrDJ oh snap!

[@MisterSkizzels]

"A longer and wider vehicle..." EXACTLY WHAT EVERYONE WANTS IN AN INTEGRA.

[@non-fictionaltoughguy1208]

I’m almost positive this gentleman has never owned or been in a 90s teggy

[@MisterSkizzels]

@@non-fictionaltoughguy1208 owned a 98 GSR with Type R Swap..including trans and half shafts and 5 lug conversion.

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

That’s exactly not everyone wants.

[@judge831]

Sarcasm I see.

[@non-fictionaltoughguy1208]

@@MisterSkizzels I meant the guy from Acura talking about the “integra”, very nice tho I had a 99 integra GSR with the AC and power steering stripped out and an aftermarket exhaust and headers easily the funnest car I’ve ever owned I wish I could have kept it

[@mediocreman2]

Mixed feelings on this one: 1. It's exactly what it's supposed to be. Normal looking car with a little bit of fun and luxury built in. I've driven all of the Integra generations and none of them were fast. Only the Type R was. 2. It is 2022 and you can still get a manual transmission car. Great job on that Acura! 3. Why is the highest trim package required to get the manual? There are some great competitors for that price. 4. Did they seriously literally glue an Acura logo on the engine 'cover'? That is a huge indicator to how slapped together this car is since it's 90% Civic. Even though the Japanese shared some components between Honda and the Integra back in the day, it never felt like it. But that's clearly not the case here. 5. A soft clutch pedal is the reason modern manual transmission cars are not enjoyable to drive. When there is zero resistance to the clutch pedal, it feels like nothing mechanical is happening, which defeats the purpose of having a manual these days. Not saying it needs to be heavy, but too light sucks. 6. This should just be called the ILX. There is nothing that says that it's any better than an ILX. Which sucks, because that means the release of the Integra name again is 100% a marketing exercise, because of the current nostalgia for the '80s and '90s.

[@rcmodder]

As an ILX this car is fine. As an Integra, its a slap in the face and a quick cash grab. They never intended to do justice to the Integra. It was a trojan horse designed to fool us all.

[@S2kv529]

Another thing that is disappointing about this car is how little power it makes

[@willdimidis4270]

Totally agree this car is a huge cash grab all marketing. If it was called ilx or even rsx I wouldn’t mind it at all

[@THELOF1]

The crazy thing is that the people who are old enough to have owned an Integra are at the point in life where we can buy what we want. How is it possible for Toyota to come out with the GR Corolla, the GR 86 but Honda could not come out with a true integra???

[@willdimidis4270]

@@THELOF1 the wrong people are in the wrong positions at honda or they’re not car enthusiasts.

[@jaball77]

For me the price will probably kill any chance of me buying a Type S when it comes out. The top trim is already 37k, so a Type S will probably be well north of 40 grand. At that price there's lots of competition I'd rather drive.

[@1MTed]

2023 z with 400hp....39k...🤔😯😯😯. Honda did not think that price out at all. Should be closer to 26k for the aspec and 32 for the type S

[@Matt-ki6tw]

Most definitely. That w limited production and the overall car shortage, at minimum, $50k. I mean good gravy, even the si is being marked up like 5 grand. A Si!?! I’ve had 3 and never paid more than invoice as they sat on lots. Integra type s will have so many wanting one could even see 60k

[@9doggie12]

Depends on the performance

[@jebediahspringfield9496]

A Civic Type R was $38k two years ago and sold like hot cakes. You don’t think a new Integra Type S would be worth at least $40k when it comes out?

[@entertained...]

since the CTR is selling easily at $40k+, the integra-s will msrp in the low 40s; they might not sell a lot of them, but they'll probably sells all the ones they make.

[@JasonWingQuan]

They were given a blank piece of paper and used it to trace the civic hatch. BOLD.

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

stunning and brave

[@slicunit]

Great comment. I had wanted to buy one- based on sketches. As it is, I'm going to Honda and buying a Honda Civic- and taking a vacation with the money I save.

[@jaunie8217]

Lol

[@non-fictionaltoughguy1208]

@@ThirdBrainLives I would pay a premium for a coupe just not this ILX tho, I want a fun car not a Japanese Buick

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

@@ThirdBrainLives I would have appreciated a coupe or a hatch more than this weird sedan-hatch morph thing.

[@e-train374]

I’m 50+ y/o and learning manual on my new 2024 Integra A-Spec w/ Tech that I picked up at Arlington Toyota last week! I’m getting the hang of it. You might see me carving up RT 14 🤣🤣

[@tomm7505]

I'm 65 and I bought the same thing this past April. There are just a couple of things it doesn't have that it should: 1. Homelink and 2. a rear wiper. Aside from those two things, I love it. I wanted to get a manual before Acura (and Honda) discontinues them all together.

[@xpsychotimesx9996]

I love when developers/engineers/marketing explain why people are wrong to dislike the product they make.

[@daniel-ino]

if you have to explain why something SHOULD look cool you know its not cool

[@chinoskateboardv]

Forreals. Idgaf that this INTEGRA is 2% more stiffer than a civic. It looks uglier than the civic lmao. Idc about the small things

[@3030hp]

right.

[@andydhillon1977]

I wish car companies would stop reviving iconic car names for now cars that share nothing with their heritage. Supra should be called anything other than the Supra. Same for the FRS. The Integra name should be left in the past since there's no plan.of ever making it anywhere close to what they were. At least Nissan gets it. I do understand Nissan got pretty lucky with the FI past of the Z intersecting with the future. In that, I mean the EPA push to go forced induction over NA engines.

[@3030hp]

@@andydhillon1977 They should have called the new Supra the CELICA. They could have gotten away w/ it and not pissing everyone off.

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

I love how Savagegeese can deliver the most detailed yet entertaining video to watch. This is without the BS sponsorship cuts and stupidness of other top youtuber videos. Keep it up!

[@paulhanusiak4291]

I really appreciate the technical detail you guys put into your videos, getting them up on a lift, going over mechanical aspects, interviews with the people who develop the vehicles etc. It's far more in-depth than most channels who 'only' give driving impressions. You guys do great work!

[@Soundsaboutright42]

To be honest, I feel like they only used the Integra name to charge the buyers more and had nothing to do with the actual vehicle. It's a rebadged ILX with improvements. It should not cost as much as it does.

[@DrDoomBloom]

Agreed!

[@ryand4533]

Definitely this thing looks like all their other models why use the integra name?!?!?! No one that loves integras is gonna fall for this BS.

[@Soundsaboutright42]

@@ryand4533 100%

[@Rfk1966]

What a letdown. Why bother with bringing the name back if there is no magic in this package. Subaru, Toyota, Nissan are bringing out fun models, then Honda pushes this out. Probably a fine, ho hum car, but not an Integra. Poor effort, poor execution.

[@thepiratepenguin_]

Totally agree, changing the name from ILX to Integra allowed them to charge $35,000 for a tarted up Civic Si.

[@stevend3753]

It really,…REALLY……needed, I don’t know,…..another 30 HP to separate itself from the Si and really make it it’s own car. And not use a CVT.

[@dragospahontu]

CVT is the most efficient transmission

[@jamesanderson1541]

Yes at the very minimum but with 2.0t i think it gets 58 more hp would've been perfect and they should give type s 300hp plus

[@stevend3753]

@@dragospahontu which is fine for a Civic LX.

[@patthonsirilim5739]

@@dragospahontu i mean its okay if your talking about a daily civic but an integra is surposed to be a 2 door coupe sports car this integra should have been a civic in a more focus and lightweight pakage a 2 door civic si with manual transmision only and a 2 door civic type r when the integra type r is realease.

[@Eldaino999]

@@patthonsirilim5739 lol you don’t know your integra heritage. It was always a nicer civic with more standard features and started out as a 5 door lift back. Performance variants came later.

[@kangaroo1119]

So our expectation for an "Integra" is pure nostalgia, but at the same time the selling point for this car is of that nostalgia. If the designer truly feel that our expectation is unrealistic, then shouldn't they just continue to call it the ILX when in fact this is just a rebadge ILX. Don't call it an Integra and then plays victim and tell us that we can't expect it to the "Integra".

[@redeyedfreaks]

exactly

[@Spud_E_Buddy]

As a previous owner of a 1986 Integra right when it came out, I couldn’t agree with you more! The looks of this car are very meh. Disappointing.

[@johnnyrocket4357]

I find the Acura rep's explanation hypocritical when he stated that they wouldn't use the Integra name if they didn't meet certain expectations, but when asked the followup question as to why not pick the RSX name which seems more fitting and appropriate... the rep states if it felt like the RSX then it feels like it's an Integra??!! What??? then why not just keep the ILX? why not use the RSX? Why say the RSX model name doesn't matter (or silently say the ILX name doesn't matter) when trying to say the Inegra name does matter?

[@johnnyrocket4357]

@@user-fx6tp3gs8sIf that is their intention, they would have more success with renaming a refreshed 2023 TLX into the 2024 Acura Vigor! 😂😄

[@2K8Si]

@@johnnyrocket4357 In Canada, they also made an 'executive Civic' called the Acura EL. They could have also used that name. This is no Integra.

[@vnsn_ngyn]

25 minutes and 22 seconds of just straight up good and thorough content. As someone whose been scouring KZbin for any new Integra content in the last few months, this was really enjoyable. Keep up the amazing work

[@ztotheu2974]

No one cares about this ilx integra

[@vnsn_ngyn]

@@ztotheu2974 someone cares enough to watch a 3 week old video and respond to a comment lol

[@ztotheu2974]

@@vnsn_ngyn I just saw this pop up on my feed actually. You're right, your mom and the marketing department at Acura are the only ones who care.

[@Nomikeal]

The worst part for me is they focused so much on the exterior styling and yet I feel the new civic looks better. The civic is reserved, handsome, and futuristic while the Integra looks like it could have come out in 2013.

[@donmillican510]

I thought the new civic has 80s vibes to it including the interior which is definitely not futuristic

[@itcangetbetter]

Seriously, how can the current civics look so good while the Acura's currently look so bad. Baffling

[@Cichlid_Visuals]

@@donmillican510 80s vibes were/are futuristic

[@donmillican510]

@@Cichlid_Visuals for their time

[@ThePilotGear]

totally agree with you here. The Civic looks really good and fresh. The Integra looks...alright, but kinda straight out of past design language. The Civic looks better by a decent margin. People were expecting the Integra to be something above and beyond the Civic, mechanically, and it's not...understandably given today's market and limited resources. So...maybe the Integra is destined to fail? I think it might, sadly.

[@KenLuong86]

Out of all the reviews on the Integra I have to say that this video review is a lot more accurate than other reviews. The emotional feeling is the biggest part and Savage has it. Good job on the review.

[@tantheman1100]

Consistently impressed with the production quality of these videos. Excellent interview, as well. Something we almost never see in other forms of car media.

[@naisbest3020]

“We scouted our competition…” then decided to do the opposite of sporty offerings by giving it less power than a GTI, added a CVT instead of a DSG, but hey it’s got an Integra badge!

[@markmiller3279]

This is the base Integra. It's not that much of a GTI competitor really.

[@2010ngojo]

I doubt a dsg would help this car in any meaningful way.

[@zatharos6427]

They had a perfect 10 speed auto, but decided against putting it in because reasons

[@DJPleasureSeekingMissle]

Yeah, completely agree. This car was a huge waste of resources.

[@zatharos6427]

@@NeightrixPrime its basically the same engine from the Si, which also reported more than 200 hp at the wheels so yeah its definitely underrated

[@alliejr]

I go back to the OG Gen 1 Integra; a 1987 and the first new car I ever owned straight out of college. I _LOVED_ that car. I think this car is a worthy successor. Well done.

[@imagebboy]

"We were given a powerful tool, a blank piece of paper" He says positively. But I think that is why everyone is upset.. They did almost nothing design wise (other than the embedded logo) to give it Integra style. That 'shovel digging' front line along the side is NOWHERE near the look of the original. Has nothing to do with the business side. They could have kept ALL the tech, weight, frame, even the 4 doors! All they had to do was design an exterior that had more cues. THATS IT! That was the big failure, has nothing to do with dollars. I mean, Dodge did it well with the Challenger, and that's a cash cow for them!

[@himura357]

I agree. How hard would it have been to style it wit a few nods to the old Integra the same way other car companies have done? They are lazy and lack vision. It's just an ILX. All they did was stamp the word Integra into the bumper, big deal.

[@mazpr2025]

@@himura357 yep! Agree w you 100%!

[@K03sport]

A blank sheet, and they copied/traced 85-90% of the Civic/Si (sedan) lights and grill were changed to fit in the family and the rear was redone to incorporate the lift back. Everything else was ripped from the Civic, probably right down to lca bushing hardness. Blank sheet and they chose to copy. Yay internal corporate politics...

[@rcmodder]

@@K03sport They made it 2% different LoL

[@naisbest3020]

That’s why they failed with the new Nsx as well. Not even a hint of the classic.. the designers are truly stupid.

[@spdandpwr]

This car feels a lot like the first year ILX. It was an Si replica with softer edges. At the end of the day, it just wasn't enough to get people excited about buying it and the manual was killed off. Fascinating that they didn't learn from that car. Also now I'm questioning the role of the ILX.

[@KuyaArbee]

Yea lol 😂 idiots think ppl want to pay 35-40k for a manual integra… give them a Type S!

[@scottdelinger1]

I’m still driving my ‘06 CSX: the ILX wasn’t an improvement on that.

[@DragonKnightX12]

@@KuyaArbee 😂 Most people don’t have Type-S money in the first place.

[@rob3388]

The '23 Integra is so ugly. And not just because it's called an Integra and not similar. End of the day, it's extremely lazy. The points that I could be swayed on are that it's ugly but I have not seen it in person. The ILX looks great, it just has a bad interior. They should have just built a new gen of ILX updated the interior and it would have sold better. At best, this would be the ILX Hatchback.

[@DragonKnightX12]

@@jalopy2472 Unfortunately I don’t think they have much room. Between rising cost of their end, new government regulations, and meeting consumer demands. Likely the real reason cars are starting to come with less content and quality then previous models.

[@thehiddenfamily]

I love watching your reviews. I can’t even afford half these cars because I just got my license and the insurance is a boatload. But mark my words when I can buy something I’ll have all the knowledge thanks to you guys

[@orbitaljunkie]

It's *really* strange to me that, despite mentioning keeping their finger on the pulse of the industry, they still took an iconic name that millennials look back on fondly... and styled it like an ILX. I'm already imagining a future electric S2000 that's a four door hatch somehow.

[@jerrittlipski3267]

We got the Mustang Mach E and the Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross, why not the Honda S-ev-2000

[@non-fictionaltoughguy1208]

Oof yea Honda/Acura is really out of touch

[@nathanielross8232]

The S2000 will somehow morph into a 2 ton CUV with a convertible roof and CVT. Acura will wonder why it does not sell.

[@markmiller3279]

The ILX is a narrow, ungainly four-door sedan and this is a moderately sleek four-door liftback. I don't see much resemblance.

[@TheChannel1978]

@@nathanielross8232 Why current S2000 prices are also going through the roof. Everybody knows Honda can't design a good car anymore

[@kevinclapson]

At that much of a price jump I would have expected an engine that's a little less anemic. I agree completely about the need for a "Type S", but it'd need to be at the current top price at the highest. Love the channel, you guys are easily my most preferred auto review source with your consistent production quality, breakdowns, and perspectives.

[@mcximus]

I had every generation Integra. From an 87 RS to a 94 GSR 4 door. I love them. Simple, fun, and won't give you too much trouble on the road.

[@serbzero]

Wow, no way, it's 5% stiffer? That's amazing, good job Acura! 😀😆

[@DavidAudioR]

2%

[@cayman9873]

The suspension parts are 1.7 percent lighter. !!! My god that almost half an ounce

[@WpnX81]

This is why I love this channel, amazingly insightful interviews with well thought out questions to the people who try to fulfill our car dreams, and then a dive into an honest take on the product... Keep it up gentlemen!

[@supaflychik7]

I love the new design. That is what caught my eye when purchasing this car! It is very different than anything out there right now. I'm happy that Acura decided to take the risk and make it so different. The car drives great and so smooth!! I don't need a race car. I don't need some high-performance machine. I don't need to rack up any speeding tickets. I just love to drive, and I drive on normal paved roads. The Integra has plenty of speed and comes up to speed fairly quickly. It has so many accessories and perks and tech that most vehicles don't. The gas mileage is great. The safety features are great. I just celebrated my 50th birthday last month and I bought this car to celebrate my milestone. I think I made the right choice :D

[@ulamss5]

You can tell they really put effort into designing the blandest-looking car of the 2020s

[@rickhunter6513]

AGREED! I don’t care if they call it, it looks lame. The proportions are all off. Not sleek. Chunky

[@chinoskateboardv]

@@rickhunter6513 yup. They fumbled the task. They had one job. And they failed 😂😂😂

[@non-fictionaltoughguy1208]

Zero passion in the design of this car

[@rickhunter6513]

It was a copy and paste design. Acura acts like they put a lot of time and effort into this design. Looks like a frigging ILX. Too bad because they did a nice job on the TLX

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

I mean I like this way more than BMW's new 2 Series, 7 Series and iX, by a big chunk

[@orad23]

consumers: "We hate this and its too expensive for a civic si" Acura: "see no one wants fun manual cars anymore!" I can already see it now

[@RCXDerp]

The type r will save us. I hate that we will never get another s2k.

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

I mean scrolling through the comments you see more people complaining about it not having a DCT, instead of having the CVT. And nobody is talking about it having a manual. If I'm honest, I could understand your interpretation right there.

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

@@RCXDerp I'm not gonna say anything, but Honda could do what Fiat did with the 124Spyder, just make a modded mx5 nd. Could slap

[@mrb2049]

Expensive? This is the same price as the Integra has always been adjusted for inflation. What is the last car you bought new?

[@Scorpio1075]

So true! If manufacturers aren't going to invest the time to make the manual version engaging to drive then just don't make the manual, but stop blaming sales on the buyer when the manufacturers are the ones failing to show up with a proper driver's car.

[@neiljohnston6304]

For me this vehicle launch feels like the "mustang" mach-e. A marketing team that doesn't care about cars just slaps a name on the back of the car to hope it improves it's sales numbers. I think the new "Integra" would've done better with another name like ILX Type S or something like that.

[@mabolzichjjl]

The thoughts on the type-S is really interesting. I figured Acura would have slapped a 2.0t into the integra with a 10speed. But the enthusiasts would definitely want a manual that simply isn't in production right now unless you give it some Type-R suspension to go with it. And at that point, I guess, just get a type r

[@supertouring1]

I wouldn't be surprised if Acura does release a Type R version after a few years to give the Integra sales a boost after the initial sales wanes.

[@panthersfan8494]

Exactly!! This Integra is just a massive flop theres nothing exciting about it or that it does better than the competition… nothing justifies buying this or makes me even want to buy it… I dont really like how it looks, it weighs a lot and has shit dimensions, I could care less about the tiny 4 cyl engine, no manual, not fast, engine sounds like crap… I would be fine if the price was lower and then they really went all out for a type S and a type R… but they would really need to do something crazy for the Type R if they do release a Type R model bc honda/acura the past 10 years IMO has just been so forgettable if it wasn’t for the civic Type R (which I dont really care for that much anyways). I’d rather get a V8 with a proper manual like the newer Camaro ZL1 or Mustangs or just get a Audi/BMW/AMG. If Honda went back to its roots and made a crazy 9k RPM 4 or 6 cyl engine with a DCT or manual and gave it anywhere from 200-500 horsepower I would seriously want one but truthfully I dont care for any of there current engines.

[@DAddy-iy9mu]

@@panthersfan8494 that won't happen with average mpg regulations increasing basically phasing out NA engines unless high displacement

[@YasssStitch]

They can use 2.0T 6MT from the Accord.

[@phu5005]

@@YasssStitch - except honda dropped MT from the accord in the usa a few yrs ago. If accord was still MT, I’d be looking at those for my next purchase.

[@Mattyew]

You guys deserve huge accolades for the quality of work you put out. so good.

[@mixmixed.comics3002]

Agreed.

[@accordinglyryan]

Watching this and hearing from Acura themselves definitely gave me a different perspective on this car, but my opinion is largely the same: as an ILX replacement it's a good car, but as an Integra it's pretty disappointing. But I also realize that a lot of the reasons I don't like it are just my personal preferences. I don't like hatchbacks. I don't like tiny turbo engines. I think the styling is boring and very corporate Acura that I have never been a big fan of. On top of that, for around the same money I would rather have the new Z, a Civic Si sedan, a GR86 or even like a base Mustang GT. There are just too many other good options over this 200hp tatted up Civic hatchback. And I say that as a big Honda fan.

[@14981fc]

ILX did 0-60 in the 6s, the "performance" oriented Intergra does mid 7 to 8s, it is a major downgrade IMO. 2006 Civic Si had around 200hp 16 years ago FFS lol

[@Silversmok3]

Great work by the SG team. Reading between the lines, bottom line is there isn’t a business case for an Integra performance car. Acuras bean counters calculated that selling a generic Integra to college professors trading up from their 7 year old Civics is where they should focus- and that’s what they did here. A modern Integra is a great choice if you’re a mainstream Honda owner. It’s not an option at all if you value serious performance at this price point.

[@JP-qq6ji]

I've never found myself so interested in Toyotas ever lol...

[@accordinglyryan]

@@Silversmok3 Yep, pretty much. Bean counters run Honda these days, it's sad. Toyota is doing a better job catering to enthusiasts and that's not something I ever thought I'd hear myself say.

[@kevinyeh8891]

@@accordinglyryan which isn’t surprising, given that the CEO races cars himself

[@drivescene6747]

200hp is fine for the base Integra, the biggest disappointment is the CVT. For real enthusiasts, the Integra Type S will be the one to get. At the end of the day, this new base engine Integra is a direct replacement to the old 140hp base Integra

[@M1911jln]

My 1987 Integra had about 113 hp.

[@drivescene6747]

@@M1911jln exactly my point, the base Integra has always been sort of “underpowered.” People are expecting an Integra Type R right out the gate and this car is not that, it’s simply the base engine, the Type S will come later.

[@M1911jln]

@@drivescene6747 I'd put it slightly differently. The base Integra has always been sporty, but not fast. I wouldn't call it underpowered, but it wasn't blistering fast, nor was it meant to be. It was meant to be enough for the average person to have a little fun on their normal daily commute. In the new Integra, the 200 hp engine is more than enough. As you said, a Type S or Type R may come later, but this is the base, mainstream model.

[@drivescene6747]

@@M1911jln EXACTLY

[@rkan665]

Counterpoint: the cvt provides the best fuel economy, and the ability to keep full boost at all time when accelerating. Dual clutch would have been realllly nice, but I think a cvt for stop and go traffic might be better.

[@CheesusSVT]

I remember the old Integra as being a bulletproof car when bulletproof cars weren't common. 😂 These things kept going!

[@nodak81]

Those days are long gone. Both Honda and Toyota have fallen dramatically from their peak of reliability in the 90's.

[@markmiller3279]

Memories are highly selective. We had a 1994 Civic EX and it was a highly reliable car for its day. Stuff still broke regularly. Our current Elantra has been much more reliable than that Civic ever was. Consumer Reports agrees, btw. They alao think cars have become consistently more reliable. The biggest change has been in engines, which hardly ever have problems anymore.

[@mitchbuchannon6637]

@@nodak81 the jdm models we get in nz haven’t, they more reliable than the 90s stuff

[@midwestfarm757]

@@nodak81 I think you're wrong, and that is because the K series is a great motor, and overall chasis parts have become more reliable. I have owned many Hondas since 1994. Some of the newer parts hold up very well, and no longer is the worry about the timing belt. I see many 400-500,000 k series motors. We also just sold an Accord with a J35 and its surpassed 300,000 miles.

[@Kung.Pao.Kitty.]

You're questions you asked are spot on to an enthusiast like me. That's why I look forward to watching your videos. Thank you, Guys!

[@stevenr1354]

Excellent video. It's an Si in a tuxedo. Fine, but I want the base Integra at $30k with the manual transmission. Since neither Si or Integra are fast I'm leaning towards a Civic Sport hatchback with a manual for under $25k. NA engine, rides better than the Si, practical.

[@non-fictionaltoughguy1208]

They managed to put it in the cheapest ugliest tuxedo they could

[@kylev.1163]

I think Acura is deploying these engineers to speak on behalf of the company to sort of save this cars reputation before it hits the market. I think people are underwhelmed and can see through the act, that its just a Grand Tourer civic. They really are the same car, and acura/honda intentionally held out on the new Civic so that they could better sell the Integra.

[@non-fictionaltoughguy1208]

That’s what it seems like mabe they’re anticipating poor sales

[@markmiller3279]

And most earlier Integras were just modestly restyled Civics. Very few were true performance cars.

[@TheChannel1978]

@@non-fictionaltoughguy1208 Cause they know they have a loser on their hands. Smh.

[@non-fictionaltoughguy1208]

@@markmiller3279 absolute 🧢

[@aneshramsaroop8436]

100% this is a bland looking car compared to the previous models.

[@TheKingkingg]

5 days in and really enjoying my 2023 Elite a spec Canada 🇨🇦 version and don't have any negative, even my 16 year old son fits in front or back behind his mom comfortably as day of purchase in Toronto we drove home to northern Ontario over 700 kms and no complaints. My first car in 1998 was a 1992 white 4 door all blue interior Integra which I loved and lots of fun. My mom still has her 1999 red 2 door she drives occasionally. I enjoy this new car for what it is , not what my memory is of old car as it's impossible to be similar, however, both are fun in their time.

[@carsinruin6102]

Be honest, there’s just not enough here to justify it over the civic si. It should of had the 2.0t out of the box.

[@xL0stKIlah]

Maybe the completely different looks and more room

[@mr.bitsbyte4664]

@@xL0stKIlah completely different looks? You mean the grill that looks like some sort of posh necklace? And the curvy taillights that don't mesh with the rest of the design at all? Yeah that does compel me to buy it over the civic.

[@payne540]

I do prefer liftback to sedan, though

[@csincos989]

AGREED? The exterior design is very nice and I like it but the 2.0t is a better option. I'm still not convinced nor have I heard or seen any compelling arguments/research that the 1.5t is not plagued of oil dilution.

[@SpcNATlON]

Type S it'll come. If they brought the 2.0T in at 35k It would be a direct competition to the type R. Yes I know this is a CTRL C CTRL V of Si. But you add luxury, hatch, comfort, and styling (subjective on styling) That's where you get 7K over the Si. You put the 2.0T and it's a no brainer to take the Integra over the Type R let alone the Si. Unless your a diehard autocross/track day enthusiast you'd take the Integra over the type R. If they put the 2.0T in, the MSRP would be around 40-42K(which is where i expect the Type S to fall). If the base started at 40K, your in TLX, Z, Mustang GT, past GR86, past WRX, past GR corolla. A 2.0T base integra was never in the cards. You have to price your product so you compete with other brands, but not yourself. Acura has to be absolutely hating themselves though with the GR Corolla coming at 30k with 300hp 273lb. Ft of torque. Acura messed this up. I have a friend who is an engineer for Acura who has his hands in the Integra (Type S, but he won't confirm. We all know it's coming) and NSX Type S and they're his babies. Even he'll admit they missed the mark the the Integra.

[@cancel.lgbtq.6892]

Thank you Acura for making my 2000 GSR worth more and more every day!

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

lmao

[@trevagraham1605]

Now that's a car!!! Let's go back to that time!

[@Real-Americans-For-Trump-2024]

I owed the 97 GSR. Love it. This new design is not even close to the older ones. Looks like a sedan to me.

[@geraldgoodiii6993]

250k miles Needs motor rebuild i think one the CV joints are bad $5k No low balls I know what I have

[@blue_lancer_es]

@@Real-Americans-For-Trump-2024 to be fair. Does the 2022 civic resemble a 1999 civic? Like at all?

[@TheGordonfactor]

I have driven a bunch of the newer Honda products and I agree with Mark, they lack a certain "feel" to them that almost all modern cars lack.They're better on paper in every area over the older generation but there isn't the same level of feedback and feeling to them. Honda, still makes a sporty feeling car relative the rest of the industry and thankfully is keeping the manual transmission available for us psychos that will daily drive with one. I have 152k miles on my 2015 Honda Fit 6 speed. I love it but it doesn't feel like my old Civic. I think the best comparison is to look at cars like this vs what else is CURRENTLY available. If you compare it to the cars of the late 90s and early 00s, you'll be disappointed. Great video as always, my favorite car content on here.

[@theothernodude3139]

The specs are fine and are integra-like. The 4-door layout is alright. The thing that I (and I would assume a bunch of others) were NOT liking was the design itself. Integras were always distinctive with their unique design, and how the headlight shape stuck out from the rest of the cars. You would see an RSX drive by and immediately know it’s an RSX. Same with the GS-R. This integra, still looks too much like an ILX with different headlights. The designers played it too safe. But I guess the originals integra were also the same as it didn’t stick out that much either. The ones who can get past that can easily accept the integra. Just needs some time to let it grow on the others

[@TheGreektrojan]

This is my thought as well. Ditto with the interior. There was just a little more aesthetically that really should have been there. I think part of the selling point here is that its at the entry level badge hunter spec for Acura, a compromise they probably needed to justify it sales wise but they could have pushed the design just a bit more. At the very least they didn't borrow from Acura's atrocious center stack design so I consider that a big win.

[@macaron3141592653]

I don't mind it looking like the latest ILX. That car not only looked good, but also isn't well known by most people. This will instantly be recognized by at least car people. The old integra may have looked more unique but it was by no means mindblowing or beautiful.

[@ryand4533]

This thing is looks like garbage it’s all the same car at Acrua these days😢 I loved my RSX Type S!! Always wanted and integra but was to young. This looks like their SUV/NSX/TSX or whatever the line up is. It all looks the same and this is worse than the new Supra reveal honestly. It’s like they just use the names for nostalgia.

[@jimest4602]

It shouldn't be called ether of those names. There is no relation to that style / attitude of car.

[@DragonKnightX12]

@@willyjameshuff Then go buy the old stuff. Lmo No one’s stopping you.

[@wiegraf9009]

The lack of a DCT really removed the one reason to buy one of these over a Civic. No way I would pay the premium price for this over a Civic Si. The DCT was literally the only thing Acura had going for them to distinguish them from other Japanese manufacturers.

[@sohaibnadeem3684]

Looking for someone to bring this up, literallyy

[@chrish8487]

Exactly, and it is stupid that they have you buy the A-Spec and Technology Package just to get a manual. Why would anyone pay 8k over the SI for this?

[@MSZsama]

You know what's weird? The Chinese Acura CDX has had the DCT + 1.5T for many years. The only reason why Integra has a CVT is 100% cost cutting.

[@wiegraf9009]

@@MSZsama Yeah they already have the DCT tech!

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

@@MSZsama I can't imagine the CVT being that much cheaper if they already have a DCT, when asking this much for a car to begin with. I get the Integra legacy, the old one looked spanking and shit. But this one is just giving me Civic size L vibes.. And the only reason I wouldn't get the Integra for 40k is not because of the lack of a DCT, it's because I ain't paying 40k for a fwd if the 86 comes in cheaper for a more driver focused car. And If I didn't have taste the a base 318d or something should also be around 40k. (sadly no manual for those anymore)

[@MEmrCLEVER]

Based on my past with 80's and 90's compact car import automotive and street car battles; Mark sold me the 2018 Honda Civic Si. This past January, a truck rear-ended and totaled the Civic SI. With the car economy as it is and the dying manual transmission culture, no 4 door sedans with mt were available except one Acura Integra. I trust Mark's input because I fact-checked him over the years. Mark sold me the Acura Integra I have today. I am pleased with the 2023 Integra, especially considering the current automotive world as a whole. Thank you for all the hard work in research and composing it into a successful sales pitch. Go collect your commission from Acura. You deserve it, Mark.

[@njlillegard]

I knew the drive videos were all coming out today and I am very happy that I watched this one first. Great review with the effort to actually talk to Acura planners and get a realistic perspective on what this is and isn't. Sporty - check, Good MT - check, Reliable - check, Actual physical switches and limited piano black BS - double-check. To me, this is a car that is 95% of what you might dream of but will be 100% easy to own and useful. I love VW GTIs, but can't even fathom buying a new one with all those screens and technology. Acura/Honda keeps it simple. Thanks for a great review as always.

[@TheChannel1978]

Please do yourself a favour and drive a GTI, perhaps an older one like a MK 6 or 7 not the terrible 8. They are miles better than this imposter of an Integra.

[@onefastcyclist]

My 1996 GSR has an engine that only came on an Acura in America and the 170hp only moves 2,643lbs. The VTEC is a joy to drive as it comes into its own between 4500 and 8000 rpm. The 2023 "Integra" is the best ILX ever

[@jamesmedina2062]

I think they were trying to top Toyota's failure of capitalizing on the Supra name. Acura said HOLD MY BEER🍺

[@JMG0590]

@@jamesmedina2062 funny how they could fail even worse than a Toyota made by BMW. At least the BMW built Toyota is cool looking and fast.

[@jamesmedina2062]

@@JMG0590 it just has the wrong name but of course how could these clowns NOT be so unwise to dig up a legendary name and stick it into the newest bloated Civic? Like I said, stupidity has no bounds. 🤦🏻‍♂️Yes the Supra looks good too and the pencil pushers have gotten a clue on transmission choices too. Thank Nissan for that!

[@Da_one_tl]

@@jamesmedina2062what do you think the integra was

[@ShaiyanHossain]

yeah and most other integras had 140hp non vtec motors and an automatic slushbox with cloth seats

[@Littleathquakes]

the easiest way for the designers to invoke the old Integra was to do quad headlights. They simply failed. This car is just a 4-door fast back Acura with Integra stamped on it. They might as well have continued with the ILX name and there wouldn’t be such controversy. The designers have serious problems.

[@miniaddict4534]

This is the 2nd gen ILX. The 1st gen ILX was a Civic and even had the K motor. This 1.5 'performance' engine is ripped from the Civic and is also a dressed up Civic. They just thought slapping a name on it that people get nostalgic enough to buy it. Acura is betting that there are enough dumb people who will fall for it.

[@onemilkyway]

Acura riding to capitalize on the current trend of retro imports.

[@Shwnm1490]

The first time I heard that they were bringing back the integra, it was after the new supra came out and there were rumors of a 400 Z. I really thought they were going after that market, a renaissance of the 90's Japanese sports cars was upon us, I thought.It would probably cannibalize the civic type R sales, I think that design would look better as a coupe though.

[@TheFK8Life]

Nothing can cannibalize CTR sales - they only make 5000 per year and huge markups have proven demand never went away. Honda never competed with the Supra or Z apples to apples....while Toyota and Nissan went for cheap turbo grunt - Honda went upmarket with silky NA power and exotic materials The NA1 NSX was born and the daily exotic came to be Whereas the Supra and Z were 40 to 50k ....the NSX was 90k.....the Supra and Z were much easier to make faster but the NSX had the looks and raw engine note What Honda did do in the 90s was focus on race level engineering being avilable to the mass market - all the civics and integras of the 90s had double wishbone suspension and could be turned into circuot cars very easily. While Hondas still handle well only the Type R gets a similar front suspension that makes it a track weapon. Against the Z and Supra the R is outmatched displacement wise BUT the K20c1 is a stout motor ...easily make 550whp to keep up with light tuned Supras and Zs for less money on paper. The NSX while available was 125 to 200k where the Supra and Z were half or less the price. Same exotic materials but added hyper car electric zip vs NA sound Anyway - thr Supra isnt japanese - just a name The NSX. Z. CTR etc ....japanese designs that meet current regulations aka boring regulations in Japan. Ultra quiet exhaust rules which make it almost impossible to make a car "exciting" in stock form. Easily cured by aftermarket tho....intake and exhaust and all is fixed lol

[@ciello___8307]

I dont really know what you guys were expecting. Most integras in the 90s were not type rs… they were 4 speed automatic civic based platform cars. This is way more athletic than a base integra from back then …

[@TheFK8Life]

@@ciello___8307 Bingo

[@CJmk3supra]

@@ciello___8307 facts, these people are literally ridiculous

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

@@ciello___8307 athletic is one thing, nimble is another

[@jn5848]

Couldn't be more disappointed with this iteration of my favorite car from the 90s. My expectations were clearly too high. I understand why they made what they made, but it doesn't make me any more accepting of the product.

[@philhenderson3516]

It's an embarrassment of a car. Let's just acknowledge that and move on! Honda will not change its ways and I for one don't care about the brand anymore, they should just join Nissan and disappear.

[@Da_one_tl]

@@philhenderson3516it’s not an embarrassment

[@philhenderson3516]

@@Da_one_tl What would you call it then? An achievement!? We all know Honda can do much much better than this. This is a subpar product with a capital S. Even the Chinese are starting to manufacture decent stuff, absolutely no excuse for Honda to be stuck with their greedy mentality. But, what can I say, you can certainly tell something's wrong at Honda when they can't come up with a better name than Afeela for their new joint venture with Sony. That's just messed up.

[@sigmaprojects]

@@Da_one_tl I agree it's not an embarrassment, but it is not really enticing compared to it's competitors.

[@Da_one_tl]

@@sigmaprojects I disagree. It’s competitors are German cars. Enough said.

[@MrValy128]

Marc did make a good point tho when he mentioned that the standard 4 door Integra when first released was nothing special. Integras only became infamous with the 2 door versions and Type S. It could very well be the case with the new model if Honda goes down that road..

[@adjutant]

As someone that never drove an integra, never knew anyone that owned or owns an integra, never grew up idolizing the integra, I could say I come at this car with a fresh mind. And guess what? It still sucks. They had a clean sheet and they still managed to make an uncompelling car regardless of what they decided to call it.

[@KuyaArbee]

The dumbest decision was to put a CVT…… instead of a traditional 8 or 10 speed automatic transmission……. They had an 8 speed DCT… in the ILX…. Why didn’t Acura give it a proper automatic transmission as an option…. Smh 🤦🏼‍♀️ a tarted up bigger civic 🤦🏼‍♀️ if I still liked sedans then sure! But damn Acura really F*cked up with the decision of using a CVT

[@TwoHeadsBrewing]

Appreciate the detail and discussion on this. As a 90s kid, it's hard to see "Integra" and not associate it with a performance vehicle. To be honest, I was hoping for a more enthusiast oriented package similar to a Civic Type-R with a 2.0L turbo under the hood. Add some better materials inside to live up to the Acura brand and you'd have something that would compete well with the GTI and Elantra N. At this price point, I'd just expect a bit more.

[@dominicg2456]

the Integra always was a slightly luxurious entry level Acura commuter. the fanbase are the ones who made it seem like it's supposed to be a performance car.

[@iunlock4261]

Funny how they didn't include the Genesis G70 2.0T in that chart lol. More power, actual luxury, more features and tech, etc...and the turbo 2.0T in the Genesis is covered under warranty for 10 years / 100K miles.

[@tommygeary1931]

This, why waste money on this hopped up Civic when you can get an actual nice car, RWD with more power, for the same price?

[@Ethan7s]

But no manual, and the manual they did have a couple years ago sucked, according to nearly every review.

[@rahimi4762]

G70 is more of a TLX competitor

[@iunlock4261]

@@rahimi4762 Based on the price range and what you get for the money, the Genesis G70 > the 2023 honda integra.

[@tommygeary1931]

@@rahimi4762 That's true, but you gotta consider price competitors as well as configuration

[@RaphaelYC]

They say that they invest a lot to make this new Integra, but really its just reskin of the civic, all the mechanical changes are minimal, 5% stiffer than the civic hatch, cool probably just did that with some extra bracing underneath, its really not that extra compare to the civic but theyre saying its a revolution like they spent $$$$ to develop it

[@patthonsirilim5739]

its okay for them to share civic parts since the integra have always been a lightweight more focus 2 door civic sports car for this to be a fucking 5 door hacthback is pure bs to the integra name

[@1scubas2]

@@patthonsirilim5739 I was there in the late 90s when that Integra type R was around. And I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news for you but you rarely saw those. Most of the ones you actually saw on road were five door hatchback’s.

[@NissanSkyline901]

@@1scubas2 The first gen integra was the only one released as a five door hatchback. Past that, the coupes were three door hatchbacks, and the sedans had a standard trunk. There was no five door hatchback in the late 90s when the Type R was around.

[@ericpromisco2213]

@@patthonsirilim5739 integra was always available as a 4 door sans the 4th gen. Given the current market and the fact that honda/acura doesn't currently have a coupe body style in production this makes the most sense. If coupes still sold well Honda wouldn't have killed off the Accord and civic coupes.

[@M1911jln]

"They say that they invest a lot to make this new Integra, but really its just reskin of the civic". That's what my '87 Integra was -- a Civic Si with a bit more refinement. This is the mainstream model, not a Type S or Type R. It's fine for what it is meant to be.

[@cryptoprstfn2757]

hands down, best auto channel period Well done!

[@NissanSkyline901]

Take this as a complaint from someone who grew up with Hondas/Acuras, but what really irks me is that they created all of this hype around a new Integra, and what we ended up getting was basically just a new ILX. There is nothing design wise that ties this to any of the previous generation Integras, and it felt like a huge marketing ploy to create hype for a car they already had in their line up, simply by changing the name to a beloved legacy car. I honestly lost a lot of respect for the company after this stunt. Also, when I was really into them, it didn't matter if it was a base model or a sedan, I really liked the Integra as it just looked more sporty than a Civic. That isn't the case with this, and this doesn't give off any appearance of sportiness to me, and in that case I would without question take the Civic Si over this because I think it's a better looking car. I think their biggest mistake was calling it an Integra and creating the hype to try and attract people who liked the previous generation models, because all it did was put all the attention on a really shit marketing ploy.

[@rushmatic]

It’s an ILX plain simple.

[@Julian-oy7hx]

The dc2 and dc5 look nothing alike, same with the civic never going back to old styling. Why does everyone care about that now?

[@2strokeFORever]

@@Julian-oy7hx actually the DC5 paid homage to the DC2 with it's headlight and taillight design (until the 05-06 refresh). I love the fact that you're trying to argue with a guy who said he was a Honda enthusiast lol

[@NissanSkyline901]

@@Julian-oy7hx I'm glad you brought up the DC5, because it did have a different enough look from the DC2, but still kept a lot of the essence of the Integra. Even in base form, it still kept that essence and had a sporty look, and it could be argued that it was because it was still a coupe. I don't think anyone is really saying that a modern Integra has to look identical, but clearly they did something right when the DC5 was well enough received even though it did have a different enough look to the DC2. Also, if you even look at current Honda's, all of their car models look different enough. The DC2 and DC5 looked different enough from the other Acura models of the time. This has nothing distinct about it. This is just an Integra in name and in the fact it shares parts with the Civic. They knew there was little interest in the ILX with younger buyers, and even if they had released a performance version of it, it probably wouldn't have done great, and so they got desperate and made the ILX into a hatchback, built up hype about a new Integra, and gave us a hatchback version of the ILX. I just don't understand how they thought that any of this was going to go over well for them.

[@Julian-oy7hx]

@@2strokeFORever cool. And my 8th gen si looks nothing like civics that came before or afterwards. I’m a Honda enthusiast but I don’t set ridiculous expectations for a bougie civic

[@golgoth7600]

The 0 to 60 seemed like an eternity

[@GRIZZDOGG01]

0 to 60 in 2 to 3 working days.

[@bmw3-er]

it's a great car! Superb video as always Mr.Geese!

[@nickzarnetske9994]

Comparing to a Si. Loving the 5 door, upgraded interior, memory seats, and adaptive dampers. But really struggling to put that in a $9k upgrade. Hoping the Si gets a few of the Intergra goodies down the road.

[@dougrobinson8602]

Heated seats for the USA market would have been nice.....

[@meowmeow2759]

They removed features from the Si in order to put into the integra.

[@Redmongoose-rdm]

Compared to the Canadian spec Si this seems to only have nicer leather , memory seats, better audio and adaptive dampers. The civic hatch back does look better to me. The memory seats are a sore point for me. My wife and I have the Touring here in Canada she pretty much never drive but when she does, I wish we had the memory seats. Almost as much as I wish that she drove stick. R.I.P to my 8th gen.

[@steve8803]

@Nick Zarnetske A base wrx and a top trim wrx has similar price gap, with the top trim just being more premium. A base gti and a top trim gti has a similar price gap, with the top trim just being more premium. Consider the Si the base trim, and Integra the top trim and you get a similar price gap for the same reason!

[@meowmeow2759]

@@steve8803 yes but in the US they have been removing features over the years and put them into the integra! Not to mention the Canadian Si has more features than the American one.

[@tylerhackman6832]

So Elantra N if you want to have fun, accord sport if you want to be quick and comfy. Integra and SI are kinda lost IMO.

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

If Honda took the Elantra N and slapped the old Integra body on that, OUFF..

[@keithkornatoski9162]

As a sidenote I bought a Gen I Acura Integra LS with the 5SPD MT (from Acura of Santa Monica CA) back in the day and just like todays Integra it seemed more like a luxury version of a Civic. I use to be an IT Project Manager for Honda at their Torrance CA HQ and could have purchased the later Type-R Integra for a good price ... but who new ... now I drive a 21 Ridgeline and am considering purchasing and Integra or the sportier SI ... Great Job guys ... Thanks Keith Algonquin IL

[@eaglclon]

It’s a rebadged civic si. It’s an ILX. Yes the integra was always based on the civic but it was not a rebadged civic. The integra had its own looks, interior, and engine.

[@dclarkmiamiu]

Dont forget its got the cvt from the base civic….

[@shinobi-zensei]

I look at the A-Spec trim like what the GSR trim was back in the day. I agree, I think we are getting a high performance one down the road that will address the engine problem. That being said, I love the K24 of my 2020 ILX. The character of that engine is what sealed the deal for me.

[@non-fictionaltoughguy1208]

It’s really not, I owned a 99 GSR up until last year I test drive an ILX and the character of modern Acura is not there the ILX was incredibly boring and I ended up buying my 2010 Si which I adore since it’s an actual fun sports sedan

[@johndc2998]

@@non-fictionaltoughguy1208 well said and great choice with the FG/FA.

[@non-fictionaltoughguy1208]

@@johndc2998 thank you John

[@geoffgoldplum1231]

Thank you for spending the time on this, appreciate the perspective as well

[@mrgreen9086]

I don't think most people here are the target demographic for this car

[@TeslaRifle]

2:26 wow the concept art looks so much nicer than the final design, wth.

[@kenhoward3512]

Concept cars always look great, since the designers don't have to show concern for outward visibility or headroom, or possibly, production costs.

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Its easier to make fantasy on paper

[@marsdrivein]

Can't wait to see the review of this car and see what Jack's thoughts are. Seeing how much issues he had with the Si.

[@bigbuckoramma]

One sentence defines the new Integra... "The Car everyone wanted the Civic Si to be, and literally no one asked for."

[@K03sport]

...well, two years ago, the Si had many of the same equipment as this "Integra" and by putting the manual in top trim A-Spec only is far from the buyers wishes. The Si was neutered so the Integra A-spec could be sold. The STi was killed so Toyota could sell the the GR Corolla w/out internal company/sibling competition (in the states)...

[@bigbuckoramma]

@@K03sport I've said the exact same thing about the neutering of the USDM Si to make way for justifying the price of the Integra. Just look at the Canadian Si, and weep.

[@K03sport]

@@bigbuckoramma...and Acura is like "sure, ppl will want a $40k (Si) Integra A-spec because it is an 'Integra', naturally. But ppl didn't ask for a $40k Si; Honda just took all the options away (literally) and forced it upon us hoping the car guys will accept it. But just a bit more money gets a Type-R (not factoring mark-ups)...so not sure what to think 🤔

[@bigbuckoramma]

@@K03sport Exactly, and the next question is, how long until Honda decides to put the 2.0L Turbo in it, and call it an "Integra Type-R", slap real leather trim inserts around the interior, and a premium sound system, and sell it at Civic Type-R mark up prices? You know it's coming. It's only a matter of time. Honda is becoming worse at badge marketing mark ups than Porsche between the Boxter and 911.

[@fifteen8850]

Bro what is this supposed to mean lol

[@viccionetti5907]

Jonathon Rivers needs to expunge the ‘you knows’ from his speech. If those repetitive ‘you knows’ were used as a drinking game I’d be bombed after the first six sentences! 🥳

[@mikechaud1300]

This channel is something else, I mean great job. Bravo from Slovakia !!!

[@camalexander8843]

Interview with the Acura apologist was painful. Conclusion, a highly optioned civic; a swing and a miss.

[@logicn.reasoning9744]

Many of their vids lately have been using PR videos. I always skip that part. I just want an honest no holds barred review. Not PR fluff.

[@mmr0221]

Rolled out the black guy as cannon fodder too

[@M1911jln]

When the 1986 Integra was launched, it was basically a Civic Si with a bit more refinement. So this is a faithful recreation of that. If you don't want a Civic SI with a bit more refinement, then don't buy the Integra.

[@RCXDerp]

Didn't you hear him it's 6 inches longer that totally makes it better and more sporty.

[@-DocHolliday-]

Neighbour has a 2019 Honda Accord that looks exactly like this inside and out with a 6 speed manual and 252hp. Not sure what he paid but I'm positive it was less then this waste of groceries

[@jaime5711]

Reading all the reviews and seeing all videos. My wife had a 93 intgra GS 4door and she loved. She never stops talking about it. Now she's exciting about this one, in asked to wait one more year. Aye...

[@MLHunt]

Great review as always. Information-dense and honest in its critiques while still being fair to the manufacturer. It's not a car I'm interested in at all but it was nonetheless a review I really enjoyed watching, as I always do with this channel.

[@DDd-hr6mz]

Big branding error. And unfortunately, I think even Acura knows it now. BTW, we own an ILX, and people seem to be knocking it, but if you want a more upscale, adult and plusher version of a Civic it fits the bill perfectly. It was exactly what we needed. There are very few good sedans out there, and the ILX price point is something of a bargain these days. A big 2.4L naturally aspirated four, quiet and refined. No CVT, either. Not a bad car at all.

[@KC-lg8qf]

I agree I think the ILX is very underrated and nails a lot of the key things a buyer in that segment would be looking for. You're also going to save in maintenance costs over the Germans.

[@matthewbowen5841]

Too bad Acura got rid of literally your whole list of positives from the ILX. Tiny, high strung turbo, CVT, much higher price point for the supposedly desirable models. Oof.

[@DDd-hr6mz]

@@KC-lg8qf Bigly.

[@GreenRanger886]

That thing is over $50k here in Puerto Rico. For 200hp. Let that sink in.

[@christopherprose3881]

It's a good execution of a small sports sedan/hatch and I'm sure the performance is there knowing Honda. I loved my 89 Civic Si and regret selling it back when it only had 138k on it. I do wish it had AWD as an option and would pay the extra $$$ for that feature. It seems like a great value although with everyone buying anything SUV-ish, I don't know how many they will sell. If it is a nearly popular as the new Civic, they should call it a worth-while venture. The styling is nice but not as nice as I had hoped. Could have been a little more dynamic. It should age well, however, and look good sitting in a garage for many years to come. All in all, this is a great step forward for the nameplate. Great review, thorough and concise, helpful to anyone interested in this car.

[@mugensamurai]

People wanted a BRZ fighter. Acura gave us an accord with leather.

[@tango_oscar]

Given a blank canvas and they created some thing that looks like everything else on the market.

[@itsatrap4986]

They can use the 2.0 engine from the Accord/TLX/RDX and de-tune it to 240hp/220TQ and call it the Type S. There' is absolutely no reason to get this over the Civic Si.

[@bt7482]

there are many reasons to get this over the Si, did you not watch the video? Go back and watch it.

[@itsatrap4986]

@@bt7482 LOL?

[@jaioncebollero1168]

@@bt7482 wrongggggggg, really there’s no reason. Not for anyone with half a brain anyway.

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

Doesn't the Civic Si only come as the "sedan" or what ever that quasimodo is?

[@DavidAudioR]

@@bt7482 watched it, no reason

[@LacheanApostate]

We didn't need a "500 horsepower car, that revs to 10krpm, that is super lightweight for $10,000" This mischaracterization of enthusiasts expectations really isn't helping with the dissatisfaction towards this model. A 220HP NA 2.0L revving to 8.5k two-door would have been sufficient for that $35k price.

[@SalemTechsperts]

Song playing at 11:00 , "Let me down easy". Love it.

[@bdepz]

I think the price point of this vehicle is it's biggest weak point. I think 3-4k less and it would be in a good spot vs the Si and the Mazda 3 Turbo. I think this will end up suffering the same fate as the G70 2.0T manual.

[@cornholioyo725]

it rides better than the SI and mazda 3 . The ELS is way better than both bose sound systems in the mazda and si . The electronic dampers alone are 2k alone , it looks good , has more space than the Mazda. And most importantly , it has a more refined ride with the NHV materials and suspension set up

[@robertfischer5893]

Stop being poor.

[@markmiller3279]

It really isn't $9k more than an Si, but more like $4-5k. For that you get quite a few extras that make it a more comfortable commuter, if not much sportier.

[@busterscrugs]

@@cornholioyo725 Still has piss poor road noise. Those $2000 electronic dampers will be fun to replace when they're blown out in 100k miles. Looks are subjective, but you're one of the few people who like it lol.

[@ciello___8307]

Its still very competetive when compared to the a3 or cla. Thats the market

[@rowdykruse8400]

UNIQUE DESIGN… i laughed pretty hard when Mr.Rivers said this is a unique design

[@cnfusd]

My wife and I just had baby, been looking at CUVs, trying to spend around the mid 30s and I think this Acura Integra is PERFECT! As close I can get to a new TSX Wagon with a 6 speed!

[@GIGABACHI]

Stop being delusional and buy a CUV or SUV. Your backs will thank you later.

[@revioli493]

dude please please please don't. We owned a TLX and it was such a pain with a carseat. Consider looking at SUV's such as the Toyota 4Runner. Your back will thank you. It's one of the main reasons I got rid of our TLX and bought a Toyota Sequoia.

[@chrisb9478]

Great car for the money! But, I’d still rather have a new WRX due to Awd & more power. Next step up in price, the new 400ZX seems like best bang for the buck.

[@paulh6517]

Acura/Honda missed the opportunity to put the Accord's 2.0 liter engine in this car. It should be the base engine. The 300+ hp 2.0 should be the type S.

[@15thelongway]

The 2.0 is already in the accord and type r

[@nickh5049]

The Accord's 2.0T in Acura tune makes 272HP and they are saving that for the Type S.

[@chrisdafurz]

They should've also given this car the 2.0T imo. I can't really see why most would buy this over a civic si, especially with the new gen si already being so nice

[@j.martin4476]

Wow you really brake it down appropriately… I was very curious about y’all’s thoughts on this as I just purchased a 10th gen Si. It is what it is and the glory days are over… I’m 41 so I have a nostalgic view of the Integra as well but realize the expectations may not be realistic. All that said I am hopeful of what may come down the line… in the meantime is have an Si so life isn’t so bad 🤣