Savarkar and the making of Hindutva - Nationalist, Hero or Fascist? - Dr Janaki Bakhle -

[@Vr90009]

I wish India had such level of podcasters . This is the best discussion I’ve seen on Savarkar. Thankyou shehzaad for this podcast.❤❤❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

❤️

[@abhijitmaisuria5703]

Read books kiddo

[@Bittaadhami]

Move there it’s world 🌎 safest country

[@satyamgupta6986]

Lol😂😂

[@Vr90009]

@@Bittaadhami bhai har kisiko waha mat bheja kar . Or seriously tu khud hi soch . Yaha ke podcaster or media Savarkar ko aisa portray karte hain jaise woh koi terrorist ho . We need more such conversations where we can understand all aspects of such historic figures. Yaha ke podcaster politicians ka bhi interview karte hain toh aisa lagta hai jaise koi pr interview ho , na koi cross question, na koi fact check . Kejriwal ka hi interview dekhle raj shamani ke saath . Aisa lag rha hai jaise har sawal kerjirwal ne likhke diya ho.

[@Kalki0025]

This is how to understand the spectrum of political and ideological alignment in Pakistan and India. Ultra-nationalist or highly controversial religious leaders in India are equivalent to centrist figures or those at Imran Khan’s level in Pakistan. Similarly, the most ultra-left, modern liberals, or woke individuals in Pakistan are equivalent to centrists or semi-right-wing figures in India. There is no equivalent of India’s left wing in Pakistan, just as India lacks an equivalent of Pakistan’s right wing. In India, we will never see a Pakistani leftist or woke figure openly criticizing Islam or speaking for minorities, especially for religions like paganism or idol worship, in the way India’s left speaks about Hinduism or its minorities. In Pakistan, even the most ultra-left or liberal figures are equivalent to the RSS in India. This shows how the political spectrum differs significantly between the two countries. The left in Pakistan tends to play it safe by avoiding criticism of Islam, whereas India’s left engages in self-reflection or even self-criticism

[@harshagrawal9258]

you have very beautifully summed up the situation. Kudos

[@owaissheraz]

Wat u conveniently ignored is the fact k Muslims r sizeable minority whereas in Pakistan there Muslims and negligible other minorities still shezad ghuas, muzamil, hoodboy speak yp for hindus,, Secondly RSS is definitely something which is more extreme and calls for open genocide of Muslims Btw wat have u given to muslims Tell me about the representation of muslims in burocracy, army or parliament with respect to their population Whereas in Pakistan although treatment isn't wat should be but we have kota seats for themand they do get their due representation

[@anuragrt]

Very well said.

[@lookintoit4537]

@@owaissheraz "RSS is definitely something which is more extreme and calls for open genocide of Muslims"........utter lie. Listen to the speeches of RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat. Dont confuse random hate spewing youtube edgelord with actual rss members. "Tell me about the representation of muslims in burocracy, army or parliament with respect to their population "..........Public exams are open for all. There is no discrimination on basis of religion. If some Muslims choose to live in ghettos and go to Madrasas instead of actual schools, how is this Hindu's fault? You're saying that Muslims in India are having a bad time. Firstly, everyone in India is having a bad time, sinvce its a third world country. But if Muslims are specially being targeted, why aren't they fleeing to Pakistan? I know Muslims who hate BJP, and Muslims who're ok with BJP. But none of them ever expressed any intention of leaving BJP ruled India. You speak of quotas. But are non Muslims allowed to become president or prime minister of Pakistan? India has had Sikh prime minister and Muslim, Sikh and Christian presidents. Is that possible in Pakistan?

[@AKumar-co7oe]

@@owaissheraz RSS doesn't call for open genocide of Muslims. RSS calls for uniform civil code. Islamic scripture calls for open genocide of non believers. Islamic sharia calls for second class citizenship for non-muslims.

[@kanika0846]

1:10:35 you're very wrong ma'am. It's a very very widely known fact that savarkar was against caste. That's what RSS and BJP also supports. RSS even trains people from the dalit samaj to become pandits 🤷

[@user-rh5jp2sh4s]

Well question is how genuine these positions against caste were???.. or was it about getting a large section of the Hindu population, especially dalits behind his political agenda... and then dump them when expedient Like contrary to his previous anti caste positions.. in 1939, Savarkar assured that his party Hindu Mahasabha won't necessarily support entry of the dalits into temples. Savarkar said, "Thus the Party will not introduce or support compulsory Legislature regarding Temple Entry by the untouchables etc. in old temples beyond the limit to which the non-Hindus are allowed by custom as in force today." Or to the Indian constitution were Ambedkar played an important role. Savarkar said" worst about the new constitution of Bharat is that there is nothing Bharatiya (Indian) about it. Manusmriti is that scripture which is most worship-able after Vedas for our Hindu Nation and which from ancient times has become the basis of our culture-customs, thought and practice. This book for centuries has codified the spiritual and divine march of our nation. Even today the rules which are followed by crores of Hindus in their lives and practice are based on Manusmriti." Ambedkar, Chairman of the committee that drafted the Constitution of India, criticized Manusmriti as responsible for caste system in India.

[@shantberwal5259]

@@user-rh5jp2sh4s - are madam. That’s what she is saying that Savarkar was severly against the caste.

[@user-rh5jp2sh4s]

@@shantberwal5259 Well yes again question is how genuine that was as I pointed out... but then humans are very contradictory and there are many nuances...

[@adi-qx8ls]

@@user-rh5jp2sh4s tbf, Ambedkar's criticism on Manu smriti from scholarly pov is naive at best and stupid at worst. That text first and foremost isn't a shruti which simply means it isn't a central authoritative scripture (law code not even a scripture tbh) of Hinduism, second point is that it's been historically proven that this text was never implemented as a central law code by any of the major Hindu king ever in the history of India. The last and most important point is that, current version of Manu Smriti is highly corrupted, interpolated and self contradictory hence modern scholarship has discarded it's authenticity. Whilst, I understand the reasoning from where Ambedkar came to this decision of burning the text to make an appeal and unite the marginalized communities of India to agitate and revolt against oppressive system of caste, but his academic perspective about it's origination, religious sanctity etc. have been debunked long ago. On the other hand, before questioning Savarkar's intent on his abolition of casteism, you should actually check his Savarna food camp schemes he implemented at his time, where he would organize food camps consisting of people from all the castes lower to higher. Albeit, he does suffer from anti Muslim bigotry there's no denying it.

[@adi-qx8ls]

@@user-rh5jp2sh4s tbf, Ambedkar's criticism on Manu smriti from scholarly pov is naive at best and stupid at worst. That text first and foremost isn't a shruti which simply means it isn't a central authoritative scripture of Hinduism, second point is that it's been historically proven that this text was never implemented as a central law code by any of the major Hindu kings ever in the history of India. The last and most important point is that, current version of manu smriti is highly corrupted, interpolated and self contradictory hence modern scholarship has discarded it's authenticity. Whilst, I understand the reasoning from where Ambedkar came to this decision of burning the text to make an appeal and unite the marginalized communities of India to agitate and revolt against oppressive system of caste, but his academic perspective about it's origination, religious sanctity etc. have been debunked long ago. On the other hand, before questioning Savarkar's intent on his abolition of casteism, you should actually check his sarvarna food camp schemes he implemented at his time, where he would organise food camps consisting of people from all the castes lower to higher. Albeit, he does suffer from anti muslim bigotry there's no denying it.

[@iDeepakRana]

Answer to your question: Where did the concept of unified India come from? Did Savarkar invent it? No, it is there in ancient Indian texts if one cares to read it. Below is the definition of Bharat in one of the Puranas: The country (varṣam) that lies north of the ocean and south of the snowy mountains is called Bhāratam; there dwell the descendants of Bharata.

[@JohnWick-uj4gh]

Thanks for the comment....I was going to comment it too.

[@muddi900]

So Sindh and Balochistan is not part of this mythical bharat.

[@AKumar-co7oe]

@@muddi900 Sindh is, Balochistan is not. Look at relief map of Indian subcontinent - it's obvious what the contours of civilizational India is just by looking at the geography - the subcontinent is a flat plain surrounded by mountains all around the north and the ocean to the south. The shaktipeeths are there, all of our puranas mention the different regions, our ancient sages and gurus repeatedly talked of walking it from east to west and north to south, the vishnupuran defines its boundaries as do many other works. It is only because Pakistanis are completely cut off from the native sanskrit and prakrit literature of the land that these duffers think that savarkar is 'dreaming up' the idea of India sitting in Maharashtra. And it is shameful that this so called columbia university professor isn't aware of these conceptions of bharat and did not throw them into shehzad's face.

[@trilokyamohanchakra6351]

Entire world is Bharat, Brahma created the world for hindus​@@muddi900

[@vardhanmhatre1731]

​@@muddi900It is not mythical, a land like that exists in reality

[@Shva927]

Savarkar used to think that muslim can never be faithful to this land, as a proof the 90 percent muslim voted for a separate country Well, I would say savarkar was a visionary and his fear/prediction came true, didn't it?

[@sumupp]

You're proving his(savarkar) ideology wrong.

[@Shva927]

@sumupp how?

[@sumupp]

@Shva927 Because he thought whole subcontinent as a hindu land. So the Muslims were migrating to same piece of land but towards Pakistan

[@Shva927]

@@sumupp your communication skills r pathetic I didn't understand what u said

[@AKumar-co7oe]

You people prove his ideology right all the time ​@@sumupp

[@rishabhjain2008]

Any conversation about Savarkar is incomplete without a detailed analysis of the Ratnagiri experiment. Any examination of the Khilafat movement is incomplete without the mention of the Malabar Rebellion.

[@vivekpuri-08]

So called seculars won't talk about both Because it hurts abrahamic alliance to downgrade pagans/old cultures.

[@sujeetsingh9032]

Not malabar rabellion but moplah masscare of Hindus which Gandhi tried to cover up

[@user-pb3ez6eg1q]

A marathi is easily comfortable with Savarkar way of thinking...we are less comfortable with Nehru or Gandhi..... due to Maratha legacy......

[@rajneeshsharma9049]

No one is comfortable with Nehru Gandhi once you truly understand them

[@harshitgarg3436]

49:20 she explains gandhi POV for supporting Khliafat was humaare brothers hai, support honi chahiye. please explain to me what was Gandhi POV when he said "Hindus must not harbor hate against Muslims even if the later wants to k** them." or when he demanded for "street justice" against the writers of Rangeela Rasool. tab gandhi ko hindus humaare brothers nahi lage?

[@SagnikSanyal88]

Where did you read about the "street Justice" against the writer of Rangila Rasool .... In government's website the Gandhi's entire article is given ....The only quote I found was " One dastardly act of a Muslim has set the Hindus against Mahommedans. As a Hindu, I pray you do not have any bad feelings towards Muslim. By murdering him he, the man who did it, has neither benefitted himself nor Islam"

[@harshitgarg3436]

@@SagnikSanyal88 whenever reading from a govt website a lot of controversial text is whitewashed. Let us forget anything about Rangila Rasool. Tell me did gandhi not say Hindus must not harbor hate against Muslims even if the latter wants to k** us all. is that bhaichara?

[@harshitgarg3436]

@@SagnikSanyal88 yt keeps deleting my response

[@harshitgarg3436]

@@SagnikSanyal88 forget RR, did he not say the first line i mentioned. (ive to write like this else idk why yt is removing my response)

[@SagnikSanyal88]

@@harshitgarg3436 ok...then it's your opinion... Problem is that everyone has an opinion my friend

[@Carryminatiroastvx3dw]

The British attempted to erase the memory of the 1857 revolt. It was Savarkar and other Hindu nationalists who retrieved documents to help Indians learn about the revolt. I recommend "Revolutionary" book by Sanjeev Sandyal know more for our revolutionary.

[@amish2394]

😂😂😂Sanjeev sanyal the fake history creator, the memory of 1857 was very much alive with ghadar party, savarkar was busy in licking British boots

[@sewaligoswami781]

That's not true at all my friend ​@@amish2394

[@Carryminatiroastvx3dw]

@amish2394 libradu or nile kabutaro ke dukh ki Amazon pr book ki rating sabse high hai.. Sanjeev Sandyal are relative of Satindra nath Sandyal closest of Arvind Ghosh and rasbihari bose real Freedom Fighter not like Motilal Nehru and Jinnah boost sucker of British 🤫🤫

[@vijaychandra91]

😂a islamic country which is neither democratic nor secular systematically did ethnic cleansing of its minorities especially hindhus talking about other countries lol . These people want democracy and secular when they are in minority and they want sharia and dictatorship when they are in majority.

[@navneetparmar3084]

Tumko unke jaisa bnna hai ? Do char states ko chod de to unke jaisa he haal hai apna bhi

[@shivampatil23]

@@vijaychandra91 TRUE ❤️

[@commonsense5193]

Agree with 100%. Hypocrisy at its worst.

[@sumupp]

The demand depends upon circumstances of the country

[@FkuIlu]

@@vijaychandra91 99.9% Paki-stani wants Pakistan a Isla-mic nation but all Pakist-ani want-s India a se-cular nation hypocrisy level 100%😂

[@AvinashPandey-h1h]

Proud of Savarkar, none of leaders match his stature, a realistic and proud leader of his times. Respect for him always from heart.

[@shwetigave2372]

सावरकर माने तेज, सावरकर माने त्याग, सावरकर माने तप, सावरकर माने तत्व, सावरकर माने तर्क, सावरकर माने तारुण्य, सावरकर माने तीर, सावरकर माने तलवार.

[@shwetigave2372]

​@@navneetparmar3084 aap pakistani hindu ho kya?

[@shwetigave2372]

​@@navneetparmar3084 me marathi hu muze malum he sab. Tum tumhari duniya me khus raho.

[@SarvangiBharti-wl3np]

Lagta hai baap ko bhul gya hai​@@navneetparmar3084

[@RohitSengar-jf5mx]

​@@navneetparmar3084 tum Kitna jante ho hame pata h 😂😂😂

[@mohitkulashri2902]

@@navneetparmar3084 apni baat kr raha he.....

[@developer-bd9my]

if you are a pakistani you should not have concern with hindutwa or hindu rashtra as you are already living in islamic nation. Who agrees

[@Employer101]

D R R

[@chitrabhakta3820]

Don't forget what happened in the Khilafat movement- the Muslim mod slaughtered over 20,000 Hindus which Gandhi wanted to hide.

[@AdityaSingh-ll4ld]

Not like traitorous Muslim politics didn’t finally partitioned the country and confirmed all suspicions of Veer Savarkar.

[@lanoklom9697]

You can only be a traitor to a nation state or a kingdom, the British Raj was neither and India as a singular entity probably never existed or even if it did it was so far back in the BC era that the concept of nationhood had been replaced by regionalism by the 20th century. Hence partition was all political in nature.

[@owaissheraz]

Rss existed before Muslim leaguy U ppl were first to separate us, Pakistan was a need If Pakistan would have not existed, wr would have been treated similar to indian muslims

[@Meamea001]

​@@lanoklom9697what a pathetic presentation of once intellect. Portion of india was based on two nation theory that Muslims cannot live with hindus because they were different. It was through nd through religious.

[@89knightwolf]

​@@owaissherazAnd yet how many Muslims from India go to Pakistan? Food for thought.

[@miwaotherebel]

​@@owaissherazRSS formed in 1925, M League in 1906. But I support the partition, only total population exchange should have been done which Savarkar wanted. Then there would have been a lot peace in both nations, Pak would not have been partitioned in 1971 and lots of lives would have been saved. Neither the Hindus, nor the Muslims would have to suffer.

[@Yoga.Nindra]

She is librandu historian.. from University of California./.. Debunking her :- 1] The Chouhan rulers of the 11th century used the term "Aryan Vart" after driving out Muslims. 2] The Gupta and Maurya empires ruled from Afghanistan to Bengal.

[@goodsong_views]

all opinions are welcome in India!

[@Skyo.o]

​@@goodsong_viewsnot anymore...thx for coming

[@shivampatil23]

55:42 - SAVARKAR View on CASTE doesn't get MENTION & APPRECIATION 😔😔 What he get is HATE & CRITICISM 💔💔

[@lanoklom9697]

India hates itself, its people hate each other. You're talking about one man, perhaps some self-reflection in your culture is needed.

[@FkuIlu]

41:36 veer savarkar is right still Ind-ia-n m-usl-ims love paki and Bangladesh but they hate Indian friend Israel

[@bhakt8247]

Harry Potter and the prisoner of Andaman.

[@garryjadeja8683]

​@@bhakt8247LIKE NEHRU 😂😂

[@shivampatil23]

@@bhakt8247 Israel says Hiii

[@adityabhat6687]

I have visited cellular jail in Andaman. The story of torture there is enough to turn any man insane. there is a long list of prisoners who died there in torture.

[@amish2394]

But only one became the British servant that's savarkar

[@anilkumar-fk8fc]

​@@amish2394well that's not true.. but whatever suits you. I'd suggest reading some more books on him and his family.

[@arkojeetdas1664]

Yes, like lover of lady Mountbatten,gandhi who also wrote letters to Britishers for bail. 😂😂​@@amish2394

[@shadab_30]

​@@anilkumar-fk8fc books published from RSS shakha?

[@JohnWick-uj4gh]

@@amish2394 He was'nt a Bihari though so he would'nt be a servant....😂

[@BlahAndBlah]

I have a deep mistrust of any Indian Historian that doesn’t know Sanskrit. Their biases and scholarship is a 2nd rate version of how the 19th century Europeans (particularly) viewed the natives. Half truths, pandering to the west, 3rd rate scholarship constitutes the output of this crowd.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

I have a deep mistrust of anyone who comments without watching the podcast

[@BlahAndBlah]

@ I did watch it and have read her book. Came away unimpressed.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Then you know she knows Sanskrit?

[@BlahAndBlah]

@@ThePakistanExperience I didn’t hear anything about her knowledge of Sanskrit in the podcast. In her book “Two men …” you don’t get any idea of her knowledge of Sanskrit or a reading of Indian classical texts on Nat etc. either. Her entire thesis starts with William Jones ideas and observations. The entire book is based on a whimsical idea of an attempt to give respectability to Indian music as “classical”, doing comparative nonsense with the development of western classical music. Then spinning the usual nonsense of Hindu vs Muslims and how the Hindus hijacked indian classical music. The broad generalizations are too much to digest.

[@AKumar-co7oe]

@@ThePakistanExperience she literally said she asked some white guys at columbia to translate for her.

[@rutvik30b]

getting a marxist scholar to talk about hindutva.. perfect way to stay in the echo chamber!! maybe get a person like j sai deepak or anand ranganathan , vikram sampath.. if you actually wanna know about savarkar and hindutva without all the marxist bias

[@muddi900]

J Sai Deepak lol

[@desidoggutigersingh1039]

@@muddi900wo tumhe achchha nahi lagega kyonki khul kar sach bolta hai. Sachchai kadvi hoti hai.

[@sachinmore3055]

@@muddi900md popat lol

[@ThePakistanExperience]

I should get someone rather than the person whose work they plagiarized from?

[@muddi900]

@@desidoggutigersingh1039 bhai peeinghuman ki bar achi video hai bhai par.

[@Bulletjk02]

Not a fan of Savarkar or gandhi but never forget that Savarkar,s brother and the people of his caste the chitpawan brahmins were lynched to death by Congress workers after the assassination of Gandhi and the congressis did same with Sikhs after assassination of Indira Gandhi

[@kantvx]

If you wish to understand modern Indian nationalism, you should call Anand Ranganathan, J Sai Deepak or Vikram Sampath on your podcast.

[@Hararyoukoz3106]

@@kantvx we are happy to see them at godi, adani tv ,we don't garbage in KZbin

[@harshitgarg3436]

@@Hararyoukoz3106 scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. bina sune bass godi media bol do. koi ek baat toh bta jo anand ne galat boli

[@FkuIlu]

41:36 veer savarkar is right still Ind-ia-n m-usl-ims love paki and Bangladesh but they hate Indian friend Israel

[@Hararyoukoz3106]

@@harshitgarg3436 2000 ke note or nano chip bata de , dollar jab 86 hojaye chup rhe etc . Usko godi nahi to 4 pillar bolu

[@harshitgarg3436]

@@Hararyoukoz3106 ye baat anand ne boli? aur 2000 ke note mei chip batake godi media kaise hogya? they thought aisa kuch hoga but nahi hua. regardless media ne galat assumptions maare isme anand, j sai ya vikram ki kya galti hai?😂

[@LakhwinderSingh-bm2bl]

Bangladesh muslim majority 1947 non muslim 30% Today 8%

[@FkuIlu]

While muslmaan reach 7% to 18% in Hindustan

[@sunsun2822]

الحمدللہ

[@AmrinderSinghHundal]

How’s this related to this pod ? Aise to main bhi keh du k Trump dunya ki farega. Koi Matlab hai is video mein?

[@FkuIlu]

@AmrinderSinghHundal this is related to Pakistan and Bangladesh because they reduced minority while in India they reach 7% to 18%

[@FkuIlu]

@@AmrinderSinghHundal how veer savarkar related to Pakistani 😂? How Hindu rastra related to Pakistan?can this podcast make sense in Pakistan?

[@kanika0846]

Finished watching the entire podcast in one go, woof, i didn't think i would say this but this was a really really good one. I love that she has not tried to "label" savarkar anything and present him as he was. From now onwards i also hope that shehzad won't also make the repetitive mistake of equating RSS or Hindutva with fascism. They're veryy veryy different things.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Thanks. What happened a century ago and what is happening today are also very very different things

[@kanika0846]

@@ThePakistanExperience but doesn't that mean you're hurting a section of society who still beleive in Hindutva for what it was by comparing it to fascism when it is still not even close to it if you go by the current defenition of hindutva? 🤷

[@kanika0846]

@@ThePakistanExperience and with this logic, it shouldn't also be wrong for people to use "jihad" negatively keeping in mind what's happening today and rejecting what jihad truly stands for?

[@jashwinvispute]

Islamic republic discussing:- Why do Hindu going towards Hindutva??😂😂😂😂..... Hope you focus on , How to save pakistan from finical crisis. 😂😂😂

[@user-pb3ez6eg1q]

Mahatma Gandhi On April 6, 1947, Mr. Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi said-- "If Muslims want to kill us (Hindus), we must face death bravely. Hindus should not harbor anger in their hearts against Muslims even if the latter wanted to destroy them. If they established their rule after killing Hindus we would be ushering in a new world by sacrificing our (Hindu) lives". In 1919 Gandhi also joined the Islamic Khilafat movement which was started by Muslims to protect the Islamic Caliph and save Islam when Ottoman Turkey got defeated by the British.

[@user-pb3ez6eg1q]

+1

[@89knightwolf]

Yeah... I doubt anyone here will address this point. Doesn't suit their narrative.

[@nipungupta5511]

Jinnah didn't even write an essay, no wonder the identity crisis.

[@karolbagh3793]

Saraswati River is not a mythical river its the mother of Hindu Civilization for past 20,000 years of our Itihas much before Vedas were composed, it dried 4,000 years back but still alive in Hindus Consciousness. Goddess Saraswati is worshipped as Goddess of Knowledge.

[@rahulkhaleej]

Ex Muslim sahil ❤❤❤❤

[@pradhyudh]

Adam seeker zindabad

[@Darpanjoshi123]

Periyar Zindabad​@@pradhyudh

[@FkuIlu]

41:36 veer savarkar is right still Ind-ia-n m-usl-ims love paki and Bangladesh but they hate Indian friend Israel

[@elvindsouza9285]

Ex Hindu Aamir Haq😂

[@elvindsouza9285]

​@@pradhyudhAndhbhakton ka naya baap Adam joker zindabad

[@sujeetsingh9032]

Savarkar was a true rationalist and realist and thats why he saw through the danger of Islam unlike the Idealistic idiot Gandhi who blindly trusted them without trying to understand them. And yes one can say savarkar was not an atheist as he had vast knowledge of the original Hindu theology which became polluted overtime with many problems like varna system became caste, untouchability, loads of superstitions, hyperritualism, subjugation of women etc. And understand this too colonialism of India started after Isalmic invasion so Islamic rulers and britishers are both colonizers of India and we will decolonize India.

[@amish2394]

Was nothing more than British bootlicker and a good slave for British

[@sujeetsingh9032]

@@amish2394 I know you dont have slightest knowledge of history but if you have come till here than atleast watch above podcast may be your peanut brain will grow a bit.

[@mash6943]

BTW did she say that Sawarkar himself was a Brahmin but not an orthodox. He was a progressive person 😊

[@anonymouslyopinionated656]

podcast dekh le

[@sarvendra14]

Savarkar said radical muslims can never be loyal to the motherland. His verdict was proved when muslims divided the nation.

[@user-pb3ez6eg1q]

Muslims were called Mleecha Vansha during Shivaji Maharaj period and in even 10th century

[@shivampatil23]

46:07 - He NEVER EVER said Muslims are OUTSIDER & ATTACKERS. He only consider EVERY ONE on the other side of Indus as HINDU - By IDENTIFY (NOT by Religion) for FREEDOM & NATIONALISM ❤

[@lanoklom9697]

But your people constantly say this, so why make this point from a self-righteous position? You're not sitting on a high horse.

[@shivampatil23]

@lanoklom9697 thanks for revealing your Religion. Now I understand your PAIN 😂😂

[@ayushmankar4100]

​@@lanoklom9697 Muslims are outsiders ishme koie doubt nahi hey

[@pranaypratik1551]

​@@lanoklom9697 how is stating a fact a taking a self righteous postion while sitting on a high horse. Either come out with proof to say you are wrong, he did say so. Simply shut up. Is shivam giving a sermon? Or talking about his own philosophy? Or giving you life advice? Just stating plain facts. Disprove it or support it. What is this veiled attempt at discrediting a comment which is a rebuttal?

[@amish2394]

But why did he align with pro partition Muslim league and even supported 2 nation theory?

[@JohnWick-uj4gh]

The Territory of Bhāratāvārsha had been Explicilty defined in Puranas....From the Snowy Himalayan Mountains to the Sea in the down, there is a Landmass called as Bhāratāvarsha.....It's funny how She even don't know the Basics.

[@ks20234]

At 1.04.00 is she implying that the idea of an Indian nation doesn't have ancient pre-colonial, pre-Islamic basis...it's quite clear that there is a cultural continuity from Gandhara in Afghanistan to South East Asia. And every major king of India was very clear what is it that they consider part of India and hence they tried to conquer it. This is the basis of Maurya imperialism to Gupta or even Harsha or Rashtrakuta to even Khilji and later Mughal imperialism. When Megasthenes talked about an India, India may not have been mapped out but he was clear of which land he was talking about. I mean, the word "Hindu" or "India" is itself over 2000 years old. What ridiculousness is this that we have to explain this to a Harvard or Oxford scholar!

[@rishisharma3591]

My Only question is if British thought that Savarkar can be a Usefull tool agajnst Gandhi then why give him 4 year of extra prison term in Ratnagiri after cellular jail in 1921 and then 13 years of House arrest/keeping him inside the boundaries of Ratnagiri city. Why not parade him all over India and use his full potential. Rather than banning him from all political activities

[@ala7515]

Khilafat movement in my opinion was the turning point for many nationalist including Savarkar for change in the thought and attitude towards Muslims.

[@user-pb3ez6eg1q]

India as a Nation- Bharatvarsh was always in mind of Marathas.... especially ChitPawan Brahamins...... ---Uday S Kulkarni (historian)

[@rishisharma3591]

If Savarkar and Gandhi both were dangerous then where are british records mentioning Gandhi as D category because Savarkar surely got this badge of Honor on his prison documents

[@FreddieMurphy746]

Who is she? I bet, she isn't a Pakistani. Her narration based on her research seems quite objective.. She isn't demonizing, or glorifying the men she is talking about. I don't wanna sound opinionated, but Pakistani historians don't talk like this. Vikram Sampat is the guy who opened a new perspective about Savarkar...

[@kanika0846]

Same thoughts 😂 I've never seen Pakistani historians or professors talk this way but then I saw her name "Dr. Janaki Bakhle"

[@user-rh5jp2sh4s]

Don't want to be opinionated... yet I am🙃 well if it makes you feel better...

[@kanika0846]

@@user-rh5jp2sh4s har comment ke neeche nahi rona

[@user-rh5jp2sh4s]

@@kanika0846 Referring to yourself? 🙃

[@kanika0846]

@@user-rh5jp2sh4s bola na mt ro 😂

[@Vishnus610]

Only one question, is Pakistani’s held Pakistan nation first or islam first ? , answer will give you why savaakar never think muslim cant be patriotic

[@user-pb3ez6eg1q]

+1

[@SouthindianNarendra]

Do u find any hindu terrarist, but why all terrarisit are Muslims, Pakistan should not teach on religion especially to india, Savarkar is not PM or his ideology in place, indian Constitution is working,

[@Hararyoukoz3106]

@@SouthindianNarendra goa stana sanstha, killer of Gauri lamkshesh, Kalburgi, killer of Gandhi and last but not least LLT PRABHAKARAN

[@FkuIlu]

But they are ceo ar-ound the wo-rld

[@FreddieMurphy746]

​@@Hararyoukoz3106Parabakaran converted to Christian, however, he fought for the Tamil land irrespective of faiths...

[@FreddieMurphy746]

Gauri Lankesh, Gandhi's hit men were individuals who took out their own people due to differences of opinion and ur association of them to global religiously motivated othering of people who don't bow down towards mecca is simply a propaganda

[@zen_atma]

Amazing guest. Respect 🙏🏼🙏🏼🕉️

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🙌

[@LakhwinderSingh-bm2bl]

Savarkar ji ne kaha jo hind se pyar karte hain wonsab hindu hain hindu not a religion hindu is geographical identity hain

[@navneetparmar3084]

Kab kha kisko kha ? kuch bhi

[@FkuIlu]

Or native religion peoples is-laam is for-ner eleme-nt to India

[@shwetigave2372]

@@navneetparmar3084 left valo ki videos dekh kar nahi pata calega bro aakhe kholo our vikram sampat ki book pado.

[@KHELUMEENA-u5z]

Veer savarkar is my hero ❤ I agree veer savarkar hindutva ideology

[@sewaligoswami781]

Oh Man! This is gonna be fun one. Kushal bhai, agar aap yahan hon toh like press kar dijiyega because I'm almost certain that you'd come here. Love y'all 🎉

[@ThePakistanExperience]

❤️

[@divyasingh9123]

Hindu is a synonym for dharma. We never had religion. One is a scientific seeking of truth/ knowledge and liberation and the latter is a belief system

[@HRC294]

For people who get it, 58:30 was an intellectual jhapad to the likes of Shehzad and other liberandus of Pak who all hold a view regarding RSS/Hindutva/Savarkar and justify their delusions.

[@samdes678]

Great discussion Shehzad. I have read his material in Marathi and also his speeches along with the recently published book. She is approaching Savarkar with leftist mind. I don’t agree with her assertion that he invented Aryavarta etc. she understands that the guy was versed in Hindu religion as well as very well read. Savarkar and strangely Jinnah were protege of Mr BG. Tilak. She ignores influence of Chatrapti Shivaji Maharaj who established Hindavi Swarajya in defiance of Aurangzeb of Maharashtra who had huge influence on him. Hope her well.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🙌

[@Yashcky_]

Only Marathis can understand हिंदुत्व ..

[@user-pb3ez6eg1q]

1857 is first war of independence independent for both hindu and muslim...... for muslim it was jihad against christian missionaries........while Nana sahib wanted to become Peshwa,Rani Lakshmi Bai fighting for her Kingdom along with Tantiya Tope and Nana Sahib.......it was just socio-political tool use by Savarkar against British with temporary Muslim support...... Chhtrapati Shivaji Maharaj wnd Shahaji Maharaj use to Do such alleience and fight Against enemies of Swarajya....... This is called Krishna Niti and chanakya Niti...chal Kapat sam dam Dand Bhed.....

[@ThePakistanExperience]

No evidence for your claim for Muslims it was jihad against Christian missionaries. You are projecting your beliefs onto history

[@user-pb3ez6eg1q]

@ThePakistanExperience a family of christian missonary was killed.....bibihar masscare 200 British women and children were killed by Moslem rebels.....a skull of upper caste Muslim rebel called baig found in British museum which had noted that he killed British missionary family....1 British women converted and 1 anglo British women to islam........maulavis gave fatvas as Jihad against British.... Collaboration with Iran or Turkey by maulavis also considered.....

[@karolbagh3793]

ANCIENT INDIA, also known as BHARATVARSHA, encompassed a vast territory that has been reduced over time due to various invasions, empires, and colonialism. Here's a rough estimate of the territory lost: 1. Pakistan and Bangladesh: These countries were part of ancient India but were separated during the 1947 partition. 2. Afghanistan: Ancient India extended into present-day Afghanistan, but it was lost to Islamic invasions and later became a separate entity. 3. Tibet: Tibet was an integral part of ancient India, but it was annexed by China in the 18th century. 4. Nepal and Bhutan: These Himalayan kingdoms were once part of ancient India but gained independence over time. 5. Myanmar (Burma): Ancient India's territory extended into present-day Myanmar, but it was lost to the Burmese empire. 6. Sri Lanka: Although not physically connected, Sri Lanka was culturally and politically part of ancient India. 7. Parts of Central Asia: Ancient India's influence extended into present-day Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and Xinjiang (China). The territory lost by ancient India is estimated to be around 20-25% of its original size. Here's a rough estimate of the original territory: - Ancient India: approximately 10 million square kilometers (3.9 million sq mi) - Present-day India: approximately 3.3 million square kilometers (1.3 million sq mi) Keep in mind that these estimates vary, and the concept of a fixed territory is complex in ancient times. Nonetheless, it's clear that ancient India's territory has been significantly reduced over the Centuries.

[@mmaheshwary]

The lady says 'Savarkar and Gandhi are on a spectrum, both of them equally dangerous'. That is completely inaccurate. All one has to do is compare Gandhi's jail surroundings vs the jail VDS was put in.

[@love_raj_jumar]

1:06:02 bro you will define what hindu is ???? And there is nothing mean of it ???

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Urdu mai likh do bhai kya kehna chah rahay ho

[@vijaychandra91]

​​@@ThePakistanExperiencehe wanted to say a dictatorship and $slamic country have no right to talk about other countries democracy and secularism.

[@FkuIlu]

41:36 veer savarkar is right still Ind-ia-n m-usl-ims love paki and Bangladesh but they hate Indian friend Israel

[@RohitSengar-jf5mx]

​@@ThePakistanExperience sir ap apna history nhi jante or vir savrkar par baat karte ho 😊

[@user-rh5jp2sh4s]

​@ThePakistanExperience Good nuanced discussion... But Shahzad, I must say, judging by the comment section... the RSS/BJP IT cell, seem to be one of your most loyal viewers...😉🤣😂 They seem to go in overdrive mode only minutes after you release the video

[@divyasingh9123]

Aryavarta is mentioned in ancient Indian texts. So is rashtra. Read about Aurobindo gosh and Vivekananda idea of cultural nation diff from political nation that is western nation state. India is a civilisational nation not a nation state.

[@love_raj_jumar]

Bhai BR ambedkar india ke pehle Islamophobe thee

[@Humanityplus-h5g]

Thats why he left Hindusim and became Budhist 🎉?

[@FlexyPlayz2005]

@@Humanityplus-h5gthat doesn’t change his views on Islam

[@Humanityplus-h5g]

@ same for Hinduism 😎

[@FlexyPlayz2005]

@ cope harder still today Dalits are poor Brahminism stand tall

[@VELOCITYGAMING19]

​@@Humanityplus-h5gJai bheem dholkpur wala 😂😂😂

[@neilmichael2676]

Being from Mumbai, Savarkar is a very complicated personality to decipher!! He takes on different forms of reverence (good or bad) depending on the ideology of the person you speak to!! Dr. Bakhle gave her best shot at an explanation!! Good interview!!Would have loved if you could have started with her life journey in brief!!

[@FkuIlu]

Agar hindustan me Hindutva nahi hoga tho kya islamic desho me hoga?

[@Hararyoukoz3106]

Apna phir alg desh bana log india se Pakistan ki trh,ya desh Gandhi ka hai

[@raghuveersinghrathore7395]

India mai agar hindutva hoga to phir bhudhists, jains ,Sikh and christans ka bhi alag desh hoga kya?

[@FkuIlu]

@Hararyoukoz3106 who is Gandhi 😂he is nor hindu leader nor pm of india

[@FkuIlu]

@Hararyoukoz3106 hindustan belongs to native religion peoples Islam is forner element to bharth

[@FkuIlu]

@raghuveersinghrathore7395 these all branches of Hindusnism

[@Its-BabaYaga]

Both Converted Muslims......... Huge respect for orignal Muslims

[@shivampatil23]

POV : We ALWAYS finds those, who supports our NARRATIVE & BELIEF 😂

[@lanoklom9697]

She's educated, well-versed and eloquently presenting her arguments. You're writing one-liners in the comment section. Never seen a single Hindutva be even half as educated or eloquent. So the emoji fits perfectly for you 🤡

[@shivampatil23]

@lanoklom9697 Looks like someone got Hurt 💔💔

[@harshitgarg3436]

@@lanoklom9697 because you dont feel anyone being educated when they have a different opinion. you would call a cat intellectual if she meows in your preferred way.

[@lanoklom9697]

@@shivampatil23 The only thing that gets hurt is the image of Indians after people like you leave their "intelligent" comments under content.

[@owaissheraz]

So when he speaks up against Pakistani ppl, which narrative is he supporting U ppl can't handle a bit of deviation from ur own preassumed notions..... Why do u even bother listening

[@Bulletjk02]

Pakistan tum bna le gye Islam k liye apni civilizational Identity ko side kar k but blame Savarkar ko karte ho ki usne British k divide and rule agenda ko further push kiya hindutva k agenda me.Read J Sai Deepak's two books on Colonialism of India."India that is bharat,coloniality civilization and constitution" and "India Bharat and Pakistan, Constitutional journey of sandwiched civilization"

[@navneetparmar3084]

Wo uske opinions hai alternate realities pe based hai kbhi book pdhi bhi hai ya bas copy paste kr rha ? savarkar koi freedom fighter nhi tha usne kbhi angrejo ko oppose nhi kiya na usme kbhi independence demand kri ek do baar dominion status manga hai usne aur phir maafi mang ke chup ho gya aur atleast usne apni juban rkhi jail se bhik mangke bahr aane ke baad usne kbhi goro ko oppose nhi kiya na kisi movement me part liya , jab wo khud chup ho gya to tum kis muhh se chilate rehte ho

[@mohitkulashri2902]

@@navneetparmar3084 abe kahan se itihaas padh ke aaya hai.... Lgta he tu kabhi jindagi me school nhi gya. Savarkar ne kuch nhi kiya isi liye kalaa paani ki saja kaat raha tha. Pata nhi kahan-kahan se jahil aa jate hen.

[@navneetparmar3084]

@@mohitkulashri2902 isiliye to tu kuch quote na kr paya 😂 tere dimag pe jyada pressure na pde isiliye sirf ek chiz de rha hindu mahasabha aur muslim league ne milke coalition govt bnayi congress ke khilaf ye pdke aa phir aur btaunga bete , tumlogo ka dimag kb me data store krta hai jyada dunga to hang ho jaega

[@mohitkulashri2902]

@@navneetparmar3084 han bhai han... Savarkar ne kuch nhi kiya isi liye kalaa paani ki saja kaat raha tha. Ab khush.... Pata nhi kahan-kahan se jahil aa jate hen.

[@UniqueChameleon]

Bro Adam Seeker and Sahil deserves a podcast

[@AmitrossyNegu]

Haha 😂 Andhvishwas blind faith every believer is Andhvishwasi ? Iman ?

[@dgt8173]

It’s not how many historians avoiding nationalist angle and writing history and show majority are writing non-nationalist views and that’s how it should be. U have to take Nationalist/ Anti colonial views also. And it’s not about putting views from Nationalist angle or Neutral view, it’s about putting facts with references and leave for the public to decide and not creating any propaganda. If it’s not oriental or Nationalist trap of writing history, then that’s not any sort of a trap. Who can write about Veer Savarkar, don’t say you only. RSS definitely has the right after how congress, communist, Left Liberals have tarnished his image. So she is talking about Savarkar working for British to attack Gandhi, but what about Gandhi and congress working for British and Savarkar and INA are against British & Gandhi/congress, as Savarkar was in jail for more than 10 years but not Gandhi(many of his peaceful theatrics ended in violence or any other congress leader like Nehru(who was pardoned) or Muslim league leader like Jinnah(for inciting violence) . Savarkar may have criticised Gandhi because of their differences in ideology or approach to Independence movement. Surely Hindus are a minority when compared to others as there is brotherhood concept in other religions. As predicted by him the partition happened on the basis of religion. Veer Savarkar was Practical and Gandhi was Theoretical and we know Savarkar was correct about a future divided Nation. Coming to Nation idea of Savarkar- ma’am has completely left the idea “Akhand Bharat”. So if you conveniently pick what ever you want to convey your view then it’s not putting facts as a historian, it’s just putting your wish list in guise of a historian as most of your level so called historians have done. Hahah “idea” “ historical Fabrication” of Akhand Bharat, is the most ignorant views of you ma’am. “Hadapna “ what kind of chapri language is used, does she even know of what is”Ashwameda Yeghna”. First of all my question to ma’am is does she know Sanskrit ? One thing you don’t understand is If he believed Ethnicity is greater than Religion(Hinduism term which is ascribed to this Civilization to differentiate from other religions from outside that too more recently) then Ethnicity is a uniting force that will make our country more stable and secure. Then he has the freedom to express it. And if Hindus are progressive and evolving then what’s the wrong with that, at least it’s better than many other communities which are very rigid. If as a Brahmin Veer Savarkar can criticise some fellow Brahmins for the betterment of the society then what’s wrong. Here ma’am and the host can’t digest how Brahmins support Veer Savarkar and they are putting seeds of discomfort among Brahmins to negate the support for Savarkar. Savarkar used Vedas, history, puranam, Ramayan because he wanted to unite the people by showing them that how progressive and broad minded we are as a civilisation that Mr. Shahzad u don’t understand. At around 1:21:15, she completely puts the agenda of her ideology which is to break the Sanatani connection/support to Veer Sarvarkar. At around 1:33:20 - about inclusiveness. So a citizens role is to “pledge a great love” for their Nation is what I know, it has noting to do with caste, creed, religion, minority or majority. But by her funny expression it seems different. Difference between Veer Savarkar and Lala lajpatrai- her answer is contradicting and not satisfying. So finally after view of Savarkar I ask you to bring Mr. Vikram Sampath to your podcast. I agree for points where she said Savarkar was serious about anti-casteism, progressive thinking and others, I don’t criticise her. This is my view - about her view of Veer Savarkar. ================== Taliban-Pakistan war threatens India’s security, New Delhi must reimagine defence capabilities - KZbin This analysis by name shows loss to pak is loss to India and Indian govt should not do any humanitarian assistance to Afghan people and by this they want to criticise Indian govt and put discourse in public, nice presentation of deceiving public. This is what I feel.

[@user-pb3ez6eg1q]

Kavi Bhushan पीरा पयगम्बरा दिगम्बरा दिखाई देत, सिद्ध की सिधाई गई, रही बात रब की। कासी हूँ की कला गई मथुरा मसीत भई शिवाजी न होतो तो सुनति होती सबकी॥ कुम्करण असुर अवतारी औरंगजेब, कशी प्रयाग में दुहाई फेरी रब की। तोड़ डाले देवी देव शहर मुहल्लों के, लाखो मुसलमाँ किये माला तोड़ी सब की॥ भूषण भणत भाग्यो काशीपति विश्वनाथ और कौन गिनती में भुई गीत भव की। काशी कर्बला होती मथुरा मदीना होती शिवाजी न होते तो सुन्नत होती सब की ॥

[@user-pb3ez6eg1q]

+1

[@virendraSingh-je3sx]

Savarkar long back judged the behaviour of muslims guided by Sir Ahmad and Iqbal, which was separatist and extremist so he also advocated separation of both communities. But it started from Noplar genocide of hindus by islamists in 2021.

[@lolumo]

1:39. Shuru mein hi mistake "kaisa hai" ka female equivalent "kaisi ho" hoga. inhone seedha "kaise ho" hi kar diya. apni izzat khud badha li, haha

[@OyePapaJi]

Inki aadat hai

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Why did you expect me to know marathi grammar

[@raamcaash]

One of the most enlightening discussions on Savarkar … the British India and the freedom movement without the colorful rhetoric … thanks Shezad .. PS: despite reading a zillion books needed “Google dictionary” for some of the words used by Dr Janaki …throughly enjoyed this podcast .. PPS: Tying the keys to the sacred thread is something. My father use to do … logic was you don’t lose the keys and is always there in case of any emergency and the sacred thread does not get missed during a bath or removed with clothes … 😇

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🙌

[@rishavdeo4164]

The lady secretly admires savarkar

[@anirudhatakle306]

Savarkar and his work …. Has not been promoted because leftist secular cabal likes of JNU etc suppressed it All know his power as a Poet and all marathi people know his power even kids know his poems and a whole generation … Nehru even set people to follow him People were scared of him cause he spoke the truth

[@Bulletjk02]

Please do a podcast with Kushal mehra to discuss Savarkar and the same topics you discussed with her.There are some serious problems in the concept of hindutva in this podcast.

[@shwetigave2372]

💯

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Instead of an academic and a historian I should discuss it with a podcaster? And I don’t mean that as an insult to Kushal, I am a podcaster too but if he had a Professor of History on and somebody told him aap Shehzad say Sahee samajh lai I would say the same thing

[@virens1897]

@@ThePakistanExperience discuss with Vikram Sampath

[@theguy3888]

If a person is a believer in a warmongering backward medieval religion, the rationalist athiest modern ideas of savarkar about nation and identity will become incomprehensible for that person.

[@keeya_ks]

Load of nonsense 😂😂😂😂 did she just say that india Vedic Buddhists hindu culture never travelled to Indonesia under the cholas or that ancient India never traded when evidence is there by British historians , archaeologists lollll

[@user-rh5jp2sh4s]

@@keeya_ks Time stamp?

[@subramayamrvr8774]

please talk about grooming gangs and other terrorists spoiling the world peace and prosperity.

[@shatnermohanty6678]

1:34:26 These are the Temples of Modern India where I worship

[@parsh365]

The lady says she was surprised to know Savarkar was a poet! That he was caste agnostic!! What?? This is a well known fact. Now one more secret for this lady. Hey lady - he also said there was no harm in consuming beef.

[@Vicky-w9z]

Everyone is talking about hindutva in Pakistan what is this hindutva phobia 😂😂😂 Pakistan Ko dekho champions trophy karvao acche se Veer Savarkar ko samajhna app ke pay grade se upar ki baat hai😮😮no Hard feelings peace out 😱😱😱😱💚💛💚❤❤

[@lanoklom9697]

Very nice one liner with emojis, you deserve an award. Meanwhile she can logically defeat any Hindutva in a matter of seconds in a proper debate.

[@Vicky-w9z]

@lanoklom9697 see i told people like you hindutva is not about winning or defeating anyone converting anyone it's about living life with kindness love everyone not force anyone to anything you can't understand i know that God bless you 😱😱😱😎😗

[@bronxbull]

@@lanoklom9697no she can’t, it is not some silly nerdy debate

[@lanoklom9697]

@ Yes your kindness is visible with the copious amounts of insults and hate-filled comments against anyone who slightly disagrees with your ideology. Constantly arguing with anyone who disagrees or says anything you dislike IS INDEED about "winning or losing" and you do try to "convert" people to your mindset. At the end of the day, you are doing the same thing, you just feel you're on a mission for something better.

[@ayushmankar4100]

​@@lanoklom9697 What your take on conversion of Hindus in Sindh ?

[@Mujeebnizamani131]

Great work Shahzad , this is one the best podcasts on Pakistan experience. Never knew about this brilliant professor Janaki Bhakle.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🙌

[@Hindjpeg]

Dear shezad again a very good content, much needed to unveil the rightist side of history.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🙌

[@anirudhatakle306]

Funny how Savarkar and his literature is known followed and known to.most Marathi intellectuals and many recent great books and movies on Savakar exist … don’t need Californian narrative :) amusing

[@justrandomboi]

She can be the new Congress spokesperson

[@Skyo.o]

Hinduism or indian "fanaticism" "extremism" "secularism" ki itni chinta mat karo hindu kitne extreme hai vo waqf jaise laws se pta chal jata hai. or hindu itne extremist hai ki godse k ilawa ek naam yaad nhi ata extremist ka

[@satyamindnectar7052]

Muslim are master in playing Victim Card and Whataboutery Abrahamic Tribalism is more dangerous than Casteism

[@ProNoooob97]

Bro always cites indian history and hindutva in every other podcast but had no good questions when the real historian arrived😂😂...

[@abhishekroaster4184]

True bro..and hsi aati h ki inke intellectuals ki soch kesi h .....😂😂😂ye kitna bhi pdhle likh len .rhenge gawar hi

[@ThePakistanExperience]

When do I cite Indian history and hindutva?

[@user-rh5jp2sh4s]

​@@abhishekroaster4184 Well " INKE ?? intellectuals" from were does she come from? But probably the memo from the BJP IT cell said to directly go the comment section not knowing the guest 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@iamwham]

Dr. Bhakle doesn’t give enough what about Savarkar but more how she wrote the book and the different perspectives. I didn’t know much about Savarkar and I didn’t learn much in this podcast.

[@sayajideshmukh]

Sarvarkar nahi re shehzad .... Savarkar.... Veer Savarkar

[@Hararyoukoz3106]

@@sayajideshmukh for mercy petitions or ww2 recruitment of indian

[@RohitSharma-oh8qm]

​@@Hararyoukoz3106 ww2 recruitment of indians .hmmm . So Gandhi?

[@Mayukh__Boseee]

​​@@Hararyoukoz3106mercy petitions to Gandhi Nehru ne bhi Diya tha and Jinnah ne kabhi nehi diya tha coz wo kabhi jail gaya hie nehi... Savarkar to Kalapani main 10 saal raha.. Pata hain Kalani pani ka jail kaise hota hain? Wo library or beds wala jail nehi tha

[@nikhildeshmukh6221]

Mafiveerr savarkar Communal jinnah Communal modi

[@seeker911]

​@Hararyoukoz3106 that was his smartest move of getting Hindus trained in modern warfare otherwise only Muslims and Sikhs would have had taken part as soldiers in a modern battlefield. Anyone accepting transfer of power from British to Indian and Pakistani accepted and acknowledged British as the defacto and legal ruler of the country. Unless and until someone has spent jail in Andaman in similar circumstances, one should shove his opinion up his arse.

[@something1162]

Itna maza aya sun ke ke I don't know where to start with the praise. Loved the professor and her construction of her thought and approach- and she was soooo articulate. I want to read this book now. And you sir have so much reading and insight into the subject yourself, your questions were so nuanced and your thought is so developed that it was just one of the richest discussions I've ever heard. Samajh nahin ata iss se zyada outdo kaisay kiya ja sakta hai, but you do it everytime ❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@user-pb3ez6eg1q]

Indian Nationalism startes By Chhtrapati Shivaji Maharaj Hindavi swarajya aka hindupatpadshahi.....

[@shatnermohanty6678]

36:16 Pandurang Mahadev Bapat aka Senapati Bapat Shehzad Bhai , try to learn more about Him , very inspirational

[@miwaotherebel]

Shehzad Ji, I've been waiting for this for the last 6 days probably. First of all, I'm very much grateful to you particularly for complementing my reading of Dr. Janaki Bakhle's book on Savarkar. Here, Ma'am has mentioned stuffs which is not there in the book. And I was kinda sad after reading some parts...but now here in your podcast, specially the discussion about caste....I'm feeling elated. And the discussion on History and Nationalism too, was quite familiar to me as I'm from a Marxist background (had studied Althusser’s Marxism and the critic of Classical Marxism and their dogma). Now, I'm writing on Savarkar and the most difficult part for me is his marathi writings which no other marathi scholar cared to translate till date. Many people in the Indian subcontinent lack the required nuance to understand this sort of discussions, so they are hurling abuses for no reason. Don't take it at heart, and take my gratitude for this wonderful session. I don't agree with Dr. Bakhle on many points, that's another thing....But this whole podcast was very very enriching. I will use this as a reference for my novel on Savarkar Ji. I have only one request. This video may create controversies, but please don't delete this one. I am asking my followers in the e-mag I write, to have a look of this podcast. Thanks again. Keep up the good work.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

❤️🙌

[@Abdul.rehman95]

Pls bring adamseeker he is from lahore

[@gotitsingh9877]

Dr. Janaki Bakhle seems very knowledgeable. Nice to have her on the podcast. Also, very interesting questions by Shehzad. Quite a critical thinker you are! Kudos man!

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🙌

[@user-pb3ez6eg1q]

Call Vikram Sampath on show....

[@ThePakistanExperience]

I called the person he plagiarized from

[@user-pb3ez6eg1q]

@ThePakistanExperience yes... Muhammad plagiarised Islam from Judaism.......

[@ShameekBorkar]

@@ThePakistanExperience wasn’t she the one who reviewed Sampath’s book on Savarkar in the first place, the article itself has no mention of plagiarism Pinkos going after sanghis for copy-pasting is a pot calling the kettle black

[@harshitgarg3436]

@@ThePakistanExperience source that he plagiarized? trust me bro?

[@karolbagh3793]

Here is a Sanskrit verse that mentions Bharatvarsha: उत्तरम् यत् समुद्रस्य हिमाद्रेश्चैव दाक्षेणम् | वर्षम् तद भारतम् नाम भारती यत्र सन्ततिः || Translation: The country that is north of the ocean and south of the snowy mountains is called Bhāratam. Bharatvarsh is Indian Subcontinent Explanation : The verse is from the Vishnu Puran. It describes India as the land of Bharata, the descendants of Bharata. The name Bharatvarsha is derived from the term Bharat.

[@normalhuman6260]

As an atheist, I'm praying for your comment section. 👀👀

[@VELOCITYGAMING19]

Kyu beee 😂

[@JineshJain-i1c]

You are not an atheist. You are a 15 year old who thinks he is intellectually superior to everyone else.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🤣

[@ritika14707]

😂😂

[@0Bharat]

Jo primary nationalist historian hai vah encounter histry jyada likhate Hain aur unhone encounter mein unaki term ko bhi grahan karke uska upyog counter karne ke liye Kiya jisse vah vichar agar aur method agar aap mein a jaati hai to vah side thoda galat jaati hai. lekin unka encounter karna kabhi galat nahin tha. Abhi main kal hi Tarachand ki National movement ki donon series ki kitaben lekar aaya kyunki pure Vishwavidyalaya adhyayan ke dauran kabhi bhi nationalist historian ek doke alawa koi book recommended nahin ki jaati thi. Ek tarah se yah Desh ke sath Dhokha hi hai. Kyunki textbook mein syllabus Aaj bhi Keval marksvadi ke dwara banai gai vahi chalti hai. Kabhi use balance karne ki koshish nahin Hui.

[@Bromide9374]

I liked how you can point hardliners in islam and hinduism but after seeing your support for radical islamist of palestine,hamas and how you literally sort of forgot hostages. Again no one denying thousands of childrens and womens were killed. But i dont know maybe to appease pakistani audience who just turn blind when it comes to israel and their natural hate for jews even at the cost of supporting terrorist you got loaded and took their sides.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

You’re commenting on things you understand nothing about

[@rohand04]

​@@ThePakistanExperiencewell it's hilarious when we see muslim pointing out isreal about the killing and Palestine or even Rohingaya or kashmir .. While the same won't say a word about the virtual annihilation by killing forced migration of non Muslim communities in islamic countries. Where the native population is refused to below 5% in some places below 1% like afghanistan Pakistan Indonesia even all meddle east. Jews in Muslim countries are in 3/4 digit.. If you want to respect the respect of others , the reality is Muslim treat their minorities like shit.. and they are real xenophobes.. and it's not just limited to specific country

[@Bromide9374]

@ThePakistanExperience I understand and particularly if seeing middle east. Have been following for more than 5 years continuously reading all sorts of articles from the diplomats,BBC,NYT,Reuters(mainly). Read books, watched podcast too. So from this I can say I am not foreign to these matters. With following these things I know substantial if not completely

[@gamerhashaam3343]

Hate for Jews is not Natural in Islam or Muslims , Its been copypasted from Christian and European Books from 1800s and 1900s and enforced into the minds. Your Right on the Hostages but you forget that there is tens of thousands of Palestinians in Israeli Prisons aswell , Hamas kidnapps Israels to trade them for Palestinians Imprisoned which gives them a boost in Popularity for freeing People who would never be freed irl. Since Ghias is Leftist , He supports PFLP or DFLP rather then Hamas. Hatred for Jews is Kinda False considering that Islamic World and Eastern Europe under Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth were the only safe areas for Jews to live between 1200-1900 till PLC was parititioned and Zionism came up.

[@vivekdhyani8933]

Same as u, u are also doing podcast on topics about which u have 0 knowledge so others can also talk about things which they don't know. There is no difference between him and u​@@ThePakistanExperience

[@Flopper-j5g]

To be honest, she is extremely verbose. All sound and words. Her messages/ content gets lost. People from Humanities are usually like that, fancy words, pause and meagre content.

[@surindersinghisser7985]

What a Podcast. What a detailed RESEARCH ON SAVARKAR. OUTSTANDING.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🙌

[@Skyo.o]

chup kar be

[@PRASHANTRAI-xg5it]

These are historians who dont know sanskrit, dont know persian, nor arabic, nor any local indian language and write Indian History or about Indian heros. So much stupidity in the market.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

There are commenters who comment without watching. So much stupidity in the market

[@PRASHANTRAI-xg5it]

@ThePakistanExperience, see the bias she has for her supid communist mentor, for Savarkar, for Gandhi Nehru. The title itself mentions fascist. What is this? Is it a writing from Gandhian communist view? I have seen every bit of your podcast but found only hate that drove her work. Have any Indian heros that you daily mention suffered from Kalapani jail? No, but ours Savarkar suffered. How easily she says British used Savarkar against Gandhi. But it was Gandhi who enjoyed all the powers and immunity from the Raj. He never suffered like Tilak, Savarkar, Lajpat Rai, Bhagat Singh for any of his acts. What she says that she dive into the mindset of Savarkar, such stupid writers who are anti-Savarkar, anti-Hindutva are writing to demean the works of Savarkar. These people are called JNUchhaap in India. Everyone of them fails in any debate. These are the Brown Sahibs that we always mentions. Be free from them. I see you as a ignorant communist. I love you for the ignorance you have.

[@aparnadasgupta3403]

I was totally captivated by her voice and her language. It was a pleasure to hear her speak.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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