How I got my E-Moto Cheaper Than You at Checkout! (HyperRides)

[@Jdees209]

I love all your informational videos by the way they're super helpful. Especially when you're saving up for a bike and you're really eager to see what's about it you really break it down I like it

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@Jdees209 Appreciate that big time thank you for taking a moment to make this comment really needs a lot and makes it feel worth all the time I put in for these videos I wanted something to share with people that were in the same boat as me and really wanted to dial these bikes down to the specs

[@Stingershotz]

Just a little info while yes higher voltage at the same wattage = lower amps your 100 correct on that but that being said let’s say with the exact same size battery (WH) drawing the same amount of total wattage from the battery each cell will be getting drained from the same amount of amperage, but because of the more batteries in parallel the total line output will be higher , only thing this could cause to heat up more is any undersized conductors and possibly the controller would be less efficient , but as for the battery goes, each cell is experiencing the same drain since the nominal will always be 3.7 V no matter the voltage of the battery

[@Stingershotz]

If you would like to know more just let me know definitely seems like you already have a good understanding of battery tech

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@Stingershotz gotchya, I'm definitely not a genius when it comes to building batteries or anything so that makes scents appreciate the info for sure. I've heard from a few of the big e-bike dealers when talking with them that they think the SR will experience a lot of heat issues Are you saying you think the sigma will see heat the same Even though it's less line amps going through the wires to the controller?

[@Stingershotz]

@ yes as for the battery goes can’t be 100 % on either with motor or controller but as long as the conductors are sized correctly considering they seem to have about the same kw draw each individual cell in the battery is experiencing the same amperage draw in both batteries so if the sr has heat issues I would bet the altis does too

[@davidhenry3938]

I ordered my Altis a month ago from Watt wheels for $5699 to my door. They don't charge tax. I live in California.

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@davidhenry3938 beautiful! So there you have it for the California's I'm assuming that company is based out of a different state no Nexus in Cali so yep no tax! 👌👌👌

[@iamcannabus]

I commented on a previous video of about my E-Ride with the x9000 and how your previous video made me feel better about my choice of purchasing the altis prior. I got it from hyper rides too and was confused to why I had no sales tax on top of free shipping 😂

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@iamcannabus Appreciate you stopping back by! Yeah I didn't know that until I had to learn to sell all this stuff online and then understood it so figured I'd share with others!

[@iamcannabus]

@Razorcrew_Cole hell yeah man, I cannot wait for these bikes to get out! The more of these newer bikes that come out, the cheaper the older ones become also which means more of a community

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@iamcannabus No doubt I was thinking that too should actually start getting some people who couldn't afford them into the game!

[@iamcannabus]

@Razorcrew_Cole once this bike gets in, I'm going to start posting uploads of the rides. If your on the EC and want to hit some trails, reach out! Love seeing this community building each day

[@edgurash834]

I just got a text yesterday and an email today from Voromotors. My bike is being picked up on the 17th and will arrive before Christmas. I'm so Juiced! I have a copy of the bill of lading.

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@edgurash834 holy crap I've been wondering thanks for letting me know we're close to people having them!!!! 👏

[@edgurash834]

​@Razorcrew_Cole my Altis showed up today! The carrier picked it up at Voromotors warehouse yesterday at 4:00 and it arrived today at 12:00 to me in Sacramento California. They had forgot to call me to schedule a drop of day and time. They called me today 15 before they showed up to my house for delivery. Lol. Luckily I was home to sign for it. By the way It rips!

[@edgurash834]

​@@Razorcrew_Colejust got my Altis today only took one day to receiveit after the carrier picked it up from Voromotors warehouse. My top speed on the 19×19 was 77 mph with 90% battery. It rips, bro!

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@edgurash834 dude let's go I'm so excited to start seeing stuff on it I guess my 16/19 isn't coming till into January a little! Oh my god that's so fast out of the box! I appreciate you coming here too give me an update I'm so excited I can't wait lol

[@ethanparejo1187]

Thnx for the infos🙏

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@ethanparejo1187 np Appreciate the comment

[@MXL_Rides]

Good video man I just ordered my sr

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@MXL_Rides right on! Both are going to be game-changing bikes for sure

[@edgurash834]

Awsome saving money. My Altis was about $6100 total from Voromotors. But i am in California. Mine is to arrive in December if all goes as planned. Awsome to hear that there will be an app and regin throttle to come. These are literally the two I was wanted on this bike. Man, I can't wait to start shredding on this beast!

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@edgurash834 very nice! Yeah for you guys in Cali I don't think there's as much options for that loophole, but you guys get to see a lot first I think! Dude me too after I got the clarification of it I was like I'm sold and even if they didn't I was already sold it's just like a super bonus lol I can't wait either enjoy dude!

[@kingq4879]

​@@edgurash834Voro is cheaper than hyper rides no?

[@Hawaianae808]

Me too sr can’t wait to hit the trails

[@Wyaltisrides]

ordered my altis from them also keep us posted on when its shipped!

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@Wyaltisrides right on! It seems like a great company saves me the sales tax so that's a winner for me

[@phat56pat]

You can power the altis on under the seat

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

Yeah and then I need to keep the key in my pocket to access that on off button, the only fail in that bike if you ask me is there's nowhere to put a key so you have a car to lose or a key to lose which I am not fond of and let them know too

[@VoroMotors]

Very cool :)

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

Do no way... The Voro Motors Just drop a comment on my channel?! 🫡 I'm sure you get this a million times but if you guys are looking to work with anyone would love to You guys are gods in this! Moving to KZbin from TikTok where I specialize in helping everyone get into the E-Moto scene.

[@PurposeBuiltSasha]

Yeah, I live in Georgia and I just called them. They said no tax in Georgia either!!! This would be really good. I was already waiting on more than enough money for this bike but now with no taxes that would be dope!!! although I plan on going back to California and having to ship it lol maybe I'll just live in Georgia forever oh God no lol

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@PurposeBuiltSasha hahaha that's funny yeah I mean it does save you a good chunk of change actually made it possible for me to snag it right away in November once I figured that out because I was short that $500 lol

[@PurposeBuiltSasha]

@ yeah I’ve been waiting on money from my mom‘s passing looking to get this bike and a drone, I need something I can do all by myself I really need that freedom

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@PurposeBuiltSasha sorry for your loss bud, I think these platforms are going to be game-changing to what we've seen out of the box

[@PurposeBuiltSasha]

@ thanks 🙏🏽

[@E-RiderHub]

Great video and super informative! What made you pick the sigma over the SR?

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@E-RiderHub Thank you, if you watched my last video that was like almost too in detail going through all this between the two bikes to me the altis sounds like a better option. With higher volts they're going to be pushing less amps probably giving better range as well as the Hairpin motor can be about 20% more efficient. That SR has got to be pulling so many line amps to get "25kw" which is going to create heat talking with e-bike dealers they're even worried that they're going to have issues with returns on that bike with melting wires like I assume. Eride didn't want to answer that question also which is sus And they also wouldn't answer if the bike would do 70 mph through the whole battery or if they're getting that 70 mph literally at 100% charge to claim 70. No comment on that either from them so I assume it's just like their last bikes if you watch the Talaria boys The e-ride when it's almost dead is like top speed of 30 mph compared to the rest of the emoto's that hold power better throughout its charge. They also did the altis speed test at like 38% and hit 67 miles per hour. I would bet money that you ride is not going to hold up to that We did a review on the SS 2.0 previously too I love them great company but I think altis is superior Both great bikes but I think everyone buying that SR doesn't understand how these things actually operate how the line amps work how the motors work they are just seeing higher wattage number and counting it sold lol I doubt it's seeing 25 kW if it is it's not all the way through its battery life

[@aydentaub3544]

@@Razorcrew_Colethanks for the detailed explanations. You don’t understand how much worry and confusion your videos have saved me 😅

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@aydentaub3544 Man that actually makes it so Worth it to hear for the time I spend doing this so I appreciate you taking the time to make that comment! Hearing I'm helping is what keeps me doing it, Appreciate you guys!

[@aydentaub3544]

@@Razorcrew_Cole ofc man. I can tell you research and put a lot of work in before making these vids and it shows!

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@aydentaub3544 much appreciated, definitely do so hearing good feedback makes it feel Worth it always 🫡

[@phat56pat]

Why do you want a regen thumb throttle curious as to why

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@phat56pat really with electric we shouldn't be using our brakes to slow down where we're just wearing out brake pads for no reason in my opinion, on my razor for instance ever since I put the region breaking button on I really only use that to slow down the thumb throttle is 10 times better so you can slow down how much you want. This leaves a lot of brake pad also. If you haven't used it, I think you'll be blown away by how much you like it I personally was same for reverse lol if we have these options and might as well be given them since we're in the electric scene we have these options where we did it with gas

[@hustlasstory7611]

I would be riding in the street. So ibwant some supermotos for the altis but they do not exist right now. Sooo idk what wheel setup would work...

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@hustlasstory7611 I know I want to get some I supermoto everything usually we'll see I'm sure w9 will jump on it

[@alexsuchanek5553]

❤ nice to see you went altis did you go mx or 19/19 and red or black ⚫️ i sold my E bike to fund the altis i also plan on getting it from hyperrides, soon by the ebd of the month ill have all the rest of it^^ going mx red!! 🍻🍻🍻🍻

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@alexsuchanek5553 I think it's going to be an amazing bike! I realized I forgot to say lol I did the MX black. I am in love with the red but I know I will slowly change the colors to probably orange like I always do So black will be better in the long run I think!

[@nathanriddle4190]

Dude i put in the 120 deposit with them, cuz i wasnt sure how legit they were. I wonder if that option just holds my place in line, idk but im stoked about the thumb regen option too

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@nathanriddle4190 yeah I had a buddy flake on buying a bike I was selling so I didn't have the full amount to buy it. It sounds like we're just right behind the people who paid full price and will get a call when they have them in to pay the rest and get the bike and if I don't have the money they said I'll just get rolled over for the next order

[@ROCKY-b4d]

Does the e ride pro sr actually go 70 miles per hour because voro motors says 62

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@ROCKY-b4d interesting isn't it, someone just commented on one of my videos today that got the Altis 19/19 and said he's hit 77mph at 90% battery!

[@ModDemon125cc]

Man you guys can get cool stuff in America Canada has so many restrictions they expect every one to be fine with 48v 1000w lmfao I’m saving up for a 10kw liquid cooled system for either a yz or a bomber

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@ModDemon125cc yeah I guess we do I see other places they're so restricted! Nice too that's going to be sick

[@ModDemon125cc]

@ Yeuh man thank you

[@luigiassenti7580]

Black or Red 19-19 or 19-16 I’m waiting to see more feedback nut that’s what I want Atis Sigma looking forward to see what you say

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@luigiassenti7580 I did the 16 MX option and black. I love absolutely love the red but I'll probably get a graphics kit and seat cover eventually so black is going to be best long-term! For sure I was going to wait but now I figure I might as well just get it and get videos out for people because I'm sold on it hopefully early January!

[@JA_Brock]

Where in Colorado are you? Looks like Crested Butte area

[@phat56pat]

Oil change is 600 then 5000

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@phat56pat I've heard the 5,000 where did you hear first 500, I was assuming that because there has to be some metal in there, that was the only downfall I see but I hear many people saying we want to see that gearbox rather than a belt to hold up against that 20 plus KW

[@bthunder9292]

Imma Half way there to 6K. Been saving for a Month now. How did yall make your Purchase Cash,Credit Card,Or Payment plan.

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@bthunder9292 I put down $120 deposit non-refundable if I don't pay for the rest. I called them they said if I don't have the money on the drop I'll just get pushed to the next order. I personally sold three of my bikes to get the cash!

[@edgurash834]

Paypal

[@1OAK_X]

@@Razorcrew_Cole I wish I could keep my e pitbike too but yeah imma have to sell it to get the throne sprint

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@1OAK_X yeah that thing's actually looking pretty sick too!

[@Jdees209]

Bro I don't know if I'm tweaking but I looked on hyper rides for the SR cuz that's what I'm looking for and it's only $5,799.00. And everywhere else I've been looking was like 6,000? I'd be shipping it to Utah is it really free shipping? And really that cheaper than the actual website?

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@Jdees209 Like I explain in this video it's because they don't have Nexus In most states because there are smaller company You need to go through 100k a year or 100 sales per state and then you the Nexus and charge sales tax until then no sales tax on products out of your state that you have nextus in. So With this expensive of a bike yeah it's going to save you $400-$500 average tax Is what you're seeing the difference is. Others are claiming free shipping but you're going to be paying tax which is going to be higher than shipping!

[@aydentaub3544]

I remember when the Altis first got released, there was word of a very fast charger (more money and can charge the whole battery in like an hour or something) is this still coming out?

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@aydentaub3544 That's a good question actually, I'll have to try to see if I can figure that out too. I'm not a huge fan of super fast charging but I guess yeah with higher voltage the pack is probably different to where it can take a higher amp charge. I'm not extremely educated on how all that works but that would make sense

[@aydentaub3544]

@@Razorcrew_Cole yea that would be amazing if you can find that out! It seems to be something that’s slipped under everyone’s noses since I haven’t heard a single thing about it sinve

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@aydentaub3544 Right on I will see if I do hear anything back I haven't heard from them for a minute but I'm sure they're so busy trying to actually get ready to get the bikes out now

[@matthewcoleman1794]

What state and city are you in

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@matthewcoleman1794 I am in Castle Rock Colorado bud

[@blizzytaj]

​@@Razorcrew_Coledope! You ever ride up to the water tower? Also if you go up crowfoot Rd and take the second right up to the cell tower/antenna, there's access to about 400 acres of open space off off the power line trail. That's where I like to go when I'm in town. Tons of various and unique terrain and you're literally the ONLY one out there and it feels incredible!

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@blizzytaj do no way, no I have not really got over there at all I'm going to have to check that out I appreciate the tip big time!! I need to try to get some group rides going down here hopefully next year

[@blizzytaj]

@@Razorcrew_Cole group rides would be incredible!!

[@lightstar1053]

a vpn is needed to go on your site verison is stopping people

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@lightstar1053 EMF?? What do you mean?

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@lightstar1053 I checked out EMF's website and don't see any issues or haven't heard any

[@Crypto_Brandon]

Why are they so much smaller than a regular dirt bike? Dose it Matter? I'm 6ft.. seems small compared to my yz450... Sig looks more like a dirt bike.

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@Crypto_Brandon yeah I think like standard 450 dirt bike seat is around 38 in these are 34 in and that's kind of the standard emoto seat height since these aren't really in a dirt bike class they're kind of their own class. I'm personally 6'3 and I ride razors most the time if you know my channel so I'm not worried about speed height. Personally I'm kind of happy with the size cuz I'm sick of falling off of the 450 seat height doing wheelies Just a little bit lower helps but we'll see how it does feel to ride it like a dirt bike I love the looks of the Altis More because it looks like a dirt bike too The varg and a few others fall into the full size dirt bike class but of course they just cost a little more I think this size also helps keep it more cost efficient So it's not a $9,000 bike

[@izzymenera]

Cries in Californian :,(

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@izzymenera I know I kind of felt bad putting the video up because I don't think there's really much options for you guys. If you really search there might be someone selling them with no Nexus in Cali

[@kingq4879]

Voro has it for cheaper

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@kingq4879 incorrect. It's cheaper until you fully go through the checkout. They have nexus so there's tax on it It in Co an comes out to $6,150 Yes their sticker price on the website is cheaper but on checkout it is not. 👍 $450 cheaper

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@kingq4879 I love people that make false comments and then when they get called out on it it's just crickets

[@shockadellick]

The newer e-motos have lost their mtb heritage. kzbin.infoUgkxL6z43yl4LMMvj-0BXYZifZ6ctiiSrdy-?si=2brM1ML3XvuQD-r-

[@gabe1392]

great research and info on the tax. if you dont agree with how the gov spends ur money, u shouldnt have to give it to them.

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@gabe1392 Amen brother isn't that the truth! 👌

[@Jdees209]

I love all your informational videos by the way they're super helpful. Especially when you're saving up for a bike and you're really eager to see what's about it. you really break it down I like it

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

Much appreciated I cannot wait either!

[@Jdees209]

@Razorcrew_Cole yeah I'm looking into the SR I'm saving up for I should have it about May or June. Just putting way 300 of every check. That's about 21 checks of 300 then I'm their. Feels like a long time tho lol

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@Jdees209 very nice, I know it's a way to save up to for sure but I think these bikes should be worth it they're going to be so sick out of the box. People saying on the Sigma they're hitting over 70 mph which is just crazy to open a box and hit that pass for your emotos!