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[@exploringlife738]

Being a non-sailor, I only wish I could find such an enjoyable and insightful discussion on how to evaluate a home when buying. I love that your channel is about education and honesty rather than drama and "whatever it takes" to get clicks. Top notch viewing whether on land or sea!

[@LJ-jq8og]

Those arrows were INVALUABLE to understand what you were talking about 💪❤

[@RebootTheCatamaran]

Megan, I saw your video about your eye and my husband has a similar growth, so I showed him the video and made him go to the dermatologist. In his case it was benign, but they did find a few other spots that needed to be removed so thank you for talking about it-sailors need to take care of their skin always! A funny aside-my husband stays so covered up when we sail that the dermatologist said to him “you’re so pale, do you live here?”(SW Florida) 😂

[@TheOKellys]

Gators for all of us!!!

[@greglight3745]

Years ago we were looking for a specific boat that was imported from Europe. I was on a business trip and got a call one had come up for sale in Florida ! So we flew from the pacific NW to West palm Beach, drove to the storage marina where we met the broker. Within 10 minutes I whispered to my wife “this is not it “. So off we went to KeyWest and salvaged the trip !

[@Useless_Knowledge07]

Your videos are never considered a waste of time for me!

[@TheOKellys]

very nice of you to say. We really try to bring something of value. So much noise out there....!

[@scotttyner5375]

Great Show today!! You guy's covered a lot in a small amount of time!!! Shane is the man!!

[@TheOKellys]

He is!

[@larryboles629]

One of the best videos on buying a used boat, hell even a new one!!!! The information you shared is spot on. I have always thought of myself as having an above level of knowledge when it comes to the evaluation of sailboats. In realitiy I just maybe a notch above novice. It amazes me how a 26 min. video can improve my knowledge level. I am going to make a "Things to Check" list including all of the points you made here, as well as a few of my own. Thank you so much, and a greatful tip of the hat to Shane. Be happy, be safe

[@TheOKellys]

Wow, thanks! Glad to be of some service! We are just learning and passing it along....

[@oglaucio]

That was an amazing value packed in there! Thank you and I really appreciate you guys. Cheers!

[@adrianregan1038]

Great Video, great advice… the smell is our number 1 key to the life of a boat. Megan, just wanted to say keep up the skin checks. Saved my life.. I’m 48, sailed since I was 5yo and recently diagnosed with a melanoma. I’m ok now and just lucky to have picked it up early. (Small pink spot behind ear.) Recently sold our cat and upgrading shortly. Hopefully see you guys in your new boat soon. Adrian / Sunshine Coast QLD

[@sydshuler1941]

COLD engine start is a must! It will tell a lot about a boat.

[@olavthyvold2288]

Great video. Discovered Youngbarnacles awhile ago and love the channel. Thanks for this episode. Very informative. :)

[@treetopflyer139]

Every Lagoon Owner needs to watch this Video! 3 Times!!!

[@leonply]

Now I'm waiting for Nick to promote his New, Improved Popiel Pocket Catamaran Selection Scanner, as seen on TV!!! 😅 Great video, as always, especially on a dreary and damp day here in Portland. Enjoy your journey!!!

[@TheOKellys]

lol

[@Mac-kanal]

Denmark here. have seen some of your videos. I am a new boat owner. I know nothing about boats or about sailing. and yes, I am thinking of spending a year getting it ready and learning how to sail around here. and maybe a little around the north. to get to know the boat and life as a sailor. but got so many good ideas from you guys thank you so much for your videos please make more of yours videos.

[@Useless_Knowledge07]

Good to know or be reminded to stay with in your realm. Being a plumber, I was always amazed how people will spend $$$$ because they refuse to deal with poop even if it's their own. I am talking into a couple thousand is not a problem when it comes to poop bubbling out of the ground outside the house or flowing out of the shower drain onto the bathroom floor. The wife would say I am not paying $2200 and the husband would say, "I am not touching any poop, are you"?

[@TheOKellys]

lol....poop tax!

[@Useless_Knowledge07]

@@TheOKellys I guess it is a hazmat (poop) tax. After awhile you learn to stop breathing thru your nose.

[@donmcneal233]

Hey kids...! Never a waste of m'time! Good stuff all the time presented by really good / cool people! This was informative, but always..., it's just good sense to look@ things w/ common sense & never be afraid to bring up questionable plain sight, (or not) concerns...

[@danielsundberg1977]

Love your show and insights into what to look out for. BTW I'm glad you love OZ unlike another catamaran U.S. based family. Keep up the great work!

[@Sommers234]

Someone told me a while ago , when buying a boat or a car you also want to focus on the owner ...the seller, because you're basically buying him,,, and how he used and maintained the vehicle.

[@TheOKellys]

Great advice

[@edwardlagace9813]

Excellent review of what to look for. Thank you.

[@si2030]

I remember buying and selling cars when I was a lot younger and its interesting the parallels with boats. Cars - different colour panels etc Boats gel coat.. bilge tide. Nothing can replace straight experience - you have to have been through it to identify the nuances.. Very good video.. buyers beware.

[@Peter_Herrman]

From Megan's hint at the end, it sounds like you've finally come to your senses and are planning to do a cross-country road trip in my bus! It's ready to roll, see you soon?

[@TheOKellys]

did you get the sails on yet? lol

[@danratsnapnames]

love how this post says 0 comments, yet i can see 27 comments. thanks youtube for your great code.. as for the subject matter, doesn't all this just ultimately affect the overall value of the boat being sold, i mean, literally i have seen youtubers fix everything, so i think your statement towards the end is the key, "honest appraisal of your own skills, and what your willing to do or deal with" but i think it also boils down to your budget.. if you have 10 million in the bank, then i guess your skills and what your willing to deal with means very little. but if you are trying to find something with a 10k budget, then guess what? your skill level and willingness to do things matters greatly. am i right in this?

[@TheOKellys]

you are right. You can fix ANY boat...even if all that stands is the mast. It is just a question of time and money and either of those will boil down to resources and resourcefulness.....and those are true limits.

[@LaaksoMartti]

Thank you for a awesome video. I would like to see video about sailing hacks you have learned through your experience. How to short-hand sail, what are surprising essential items all boat have to have, is there a cheap hack to overrun/fix/replace some expensive or hard-to-get item. Just life hacks, sailboat version. Keep it up, you guys are great!

[@sailingstpommedeterre4905]

Nice Saturn V Model behind the settee❤

[@briancahill6064]

My next boat will be my first. My interest is a live aboard cruiser as opposed to a racing / performance boat. Do you have a construction evaluation on smaller catamarans like Gemini 105 Mc or Prout 37 snow Goose ?

[@laurentcorveleyn8765]

Love this video! Thanks. Just bought a house boat in Portoroz, Slovenia. Now looking out for a “day boat” e.g. First 21, J24…

[@dustoff1472]

Excellent video. Enjoying the channel. Tks for sharing.

[@NoBullshitJustGaming]

Almost 100k NOIICEEE

[@normancook4620]

Megan best of luck caring for yourself protecting from cancer ,my wife is a survivor, medical advancement is amazing! Note: Peter Harken wife has a great solar shield cream for Sailors, and yesvshe is a c Doctor! I still want you to do a revised discussion on the 3 traditional underwater appendages compared V to the new 4th catagory ,that being SCABBOARDS

[@jamesoates1223]

Very informative about "Taco-ing" a sail boat. I had never heard anything like that. I watched a video of "Travel Sketch" where their boat is breaking at the exact places you mentioned on the front cross bar and was wondering about your thoughts on it. Do you think they are pulling their sails to tight and causing the boat to "Taco" or just bad construction?

[@matthewsellers82]

It's usually someone overtightening standing rigging.

[@whitneylake2107]

Great info all around. I think highly of your friend because the first impression was "he's got a Saturn V rocket model behind him !" - I like this chap ! Given the time and thoroughness of your looking into your next water craft did you ever consider building your own in hindsight ? If the timelines were roughly equivalent my suggestion is build your own ! This insures total oversight of the process by you and it may likely take less money. As soon as my property is sold I am going to build my own - stem to stern. Best wishes from Montana !

[@oglaucio]

Howdy from Bozeman! What plans/design are going to use? Cheers!

[@whitneylake2107]

@@oglaucio I am an inventor so they will be a combination of all that I have learned from dozens of sailors and channels. A fair question too. I happen to live sixty miles from Bozeman

[@TheOKellys]

Wish we had the fortitude for a build. But....we gotta know our limitations. Much respect to ANYONE who builds their own boat!!

[@BreakingBarriers2DIY]

Interesting even if not buying a boat. Nice format for the video.

[@AndyUK-Corrival]

Excellent run through of essential things to look for, worry about or just deal with. Andy UK

[@exploranator]

Yes, the thought that cracks may be to a boat what cancer symptoms are to a person was rather eye-opening, indeed.

[@djopdam199]

That where some good logical tips to look for

[@exploranator]

I had never thought about the biological vulnerability of a balsa core. They even use it in the floor of one of the years of Corvette. The thought of a little "oops" going unnoticed but then becoming a growing weak spot definitely cancels the concept of balsa boats for me. I also never knew that single-skin FRP boats existed. I thought they ALL used a foam core. PS I realized that a foam core (using, among other products, the super-rigid core mat. I've felt that stuff, it's like wood) would be something I wanted for many reasons, including thermal insulation. With modern solar and hyper-SEER air conditioners available, one can have whatever "weather" one wants below decks, most especially with a very well-insulated boat. (Thurston Howell III voice) Imagine the pleasure of having an army of climate servants at work 24/7 to ensure your sailing and living comfort, lovey! Now there are a few more things I will be watching Nick and Megan pore over when they are choosing a purchase candidate! I think the the O'Kelly's may find a boat in what are considered the worst market conditions and worst season to do so. Diligence trumps trends every day!

[@jaymacpherson8167]

Great last point…”know your limitations.” That is why I don’t do electrical (or drywall, or brain surgery, or KZbin content!). Sail ON!

[@svbettybelle]

Mold is my top priority of smell. Especially due the unhealthy medical conditions it can cause in both shorter and longer run. Larger patches of mold in different state is warning sign. Example if it’s black mold, then it’s a no go. Even if it can be sanitized, it raises awareness of poor maintenance.

[@searlearnold2867]

Just doing the mental checklist of all the boats you have looked at since selling Clarity. I think I know what you're looking at next ! (or going back to...)

[@TheOKellys]

Ohhhhhhhhh?

[@searlearnold2867]

@@TheOKellys I'll keep it to myself, but I think you're going "back to where it all began..."

[@jeffsallus8406]

Great vide enjoyed it very much

[@crowdfundcrew]

On the intro I was waiting for the “but wait, there is more…”. Great information. As an engineer, it’s sometimes the simplest items that destroy a design. Seems the same with some boat items. Is there a car fax for boats in case the owner/dealer doesn’t admit to past claims? Donate for a Dream

[@mojoneko8303]

I wasn't familiar with the term "Tacoing" a boat. Seems like that would be more likely to occur on a catamaran or trimaran than a mono-hull and how well the beams that connect the hulls are built and attached. I am familiar with the term 'Bananaing" a boat from bow to stern. Seems to be a bigger issue with lightly built boats or boats with structural defects or damage with mono-hulls anyway. I don't have a lot of experience with cats or trimarans. I spent several years helping a guy in Alaska build a 40 foot catamaran using the West Epoxy method but never got a chance to go sailing on it. ☹ Good luck with the boat search. Thanks for the video. Search On!

[@angela1984a]

It only happens if you overtension the rigging.

[@rickhudson6890]

Awesome job

[@scarletbegonias2359]

I like how you worked in the taco reference. ( You definitely have your fans trained...)

[@TheOKellys]

lol

[@niko36]

Did you check out sailing Jupiter’s performance cat? Might be a Mumbai out of Vietnam, but don’t quote me.

[@angela1984a]

They are aware of that make and model. They have spoken about it in previous vids. Have written about it in previous comments.

[@sydshuler1941]

I usually can tell just by looking at how the boat was tied up. If the owner knows how to tie to a cleat proper. Kind of like you said Nick Flake a line,,lol or fake It’s Fake a line😂 Seamanship Much love to y’all And the best of weather to your crossings to come.

[@andrewjames7616]

Thankyou 👍

[@bradynixon8900]

Interestingly I was at a boat show locally and curiously took a gander at a Fountain Pajot 42. Man it was tiny and the quality of the build was surprisingly low quality in my opinion. The predominant internal materials gave me the impression I was standing in a boat separated by kitchen joinery used to make rooms. Blatantly obvious mastic seals where panels met the hull…. How hard is it to hide these? The boat was overwhelmed with the smell of fibreglass and spaces were so narrow it was difficult to move about. I’d say some budget airlines designed the layout it was so jammed. Same thing with a bunch of monohulls. And they were all new!

[@chuckmader9333]

There is that delicate balance between living and storage space as well as finish panels and weight.

[@Lifgun]

Well done guys...teething on new boats is somehow similar ;-)

[@patrickjames1080]

Thanks for sharing - skimmed over "osmosis and sweet smell" not sure what your referring to. 👍

[@TheOKellys]

osmosis more of the chemical-ly ammonia smell. Sweet/organic is more rot.

[@patrickjames1080]

@@TheOKellys Thanks for replying! What part/system would usually produce the chemical-ly ammonia smell? and I'll leave it at that👍(I'm Gilligan on my buddy's Prout - not a boat for anyone over 6')

[@nicokypreos]

Great Info thanks for sharing! So is that a NO for balsa cored cats for you?

[@TheOKellys]

At this point, for us, for what we are looking for...probably no balsa. Never say never, but it would have to be perfect. I definitely don't want to condemn balsa. It is successfully used in many production boats. But when you get to the lighter builds like we are looking for, the skins get very thin and a bit more fragile.

[@trentbrady8829]

I been watching Shane’s channel his a legend on all things yachts wise choice in feed back

[@TheOKellys]

yep, straight shooter. Generous to all of us

[@michaelblue7852]

Hmm not sure i wan't to buy a boat now.

[@mandmmilling3716]

Whats your opinion on cold molded builds?

[@TheOKellys]

None really. Have never owned or sailed a single one.

[@AgentFascinateur]

You should get a corporate sponsorship as sailing ambassadors 👍🏼

[@angela1984a]

They have talked about this in previous vids. They have gotten at least one generous offers from a boat builder. But they would still have to go into debt to accept that offer. And they don't want to go into debt.

[@exploranator]

@@angela1984a Not all debts are monetary, yes?

[@nrolled2888]

What are your thoughts on the Mumby 48?

[@angela1984a]

They spoke about that boat in one of the vids from the off-grid Aussie house. They've also addressed it in a previous comment.

[@nrolled2888]

@@angela1984a Do you recall what they said in particular about the Mumby? I heard them comment on it but didn’t give much detail as to why they didn’t go that route.

[@angela1984a]

@@nrolled2888 As I remember it: They don't have anything at all against the boat or the designer, but they feel it would be too big of a project for them to do a build of a Mumby. And in that off-grid Aussie house vid they expressed uncertainty about the future valuation of these boats. For them, future resale value is important. So it seems like they're looking for a more well established make/brand. It seems they want an Outremer or a Chris White. I think they have looked at at least three Outremers and one Chris White...

[@josgraha]

thanks for the tips, great channel, fwiw i think only daddy pig is a bit of an expert on everything ;)

[@MarkLawrenceKiefer]

Your going to look at the Balance for sale in Malaysia aren't you?

[@TheOKellys]

Nah. Love the newer generation of Balance though.

[@brianjohnson8967]

ya ... newsletter... many would read...

[@brucesinclair-ji9ur]

Without a boat you still creat great videos. I watched a video on the 10most earn for sailing tubes. Why weren't you their.

[@TheOKellys]

We do this for the love of it and the community. If money were the motivation, we'd never stick with it. We could make more money doing almost anything else. LOL

[@brucesinclair-ji9ur]

@@TheOKellys it wasn't the money aspect. It was the fact that you were not in the top 10 To me this is the most informative, easily the most enjoyable utube channel on sailing.

[@TheOKellys]

@@brucesinclair-ji9ur awww, thanks!

[@johnmoser1162]

Great stuff ... !

[@clifbradley]

You forgot bullet holes, if they have racks of linked 7.62 NATO ammo stockpiled or of they are flying a Dodge Demon, SRT or TRX flag on the mast. Something is not right with that boat no doubt and chances are they have used their boat as collateral for a bail bond. Just saying... I'm only kidding Dodge fans...somewhat.

[@HopeOfJoe]

Thanks guys. What questions should we be asking if the boat is only 1-2 years old? Thanks again. See you next time.✨ 🌊 💨 ⛵️ 🏝 👙 🌞 ✨

[@angieej1972]

Nick do these tips apply only to multinhulls?

[@TheOKellys]

All boats really, but obviously monohulls CAN be less sensitive to things like rig over-tension.

[@exploranator]

@@TheOKellys LOL MAD magazine did an article on the nautical life a long time ago. As the guy tightened first one guy-wire then the next, the last picture was of the diver below the boat harpooned by the mast that had been driven straight down through the hull like a crossbow bolt due to collective over-tension of the guy wires! The over-tensioning was yet another thing I had neve considered!

[@davidwebber6956]

I appreciate its not your bag but it seems a lot of cat problems are related to twist of the hulls so are Bali on to something with a hard front deck built as one ? Hope speedy recovery Megan .

[@angela1984a]

Wouldn't you have to look at the whole construction of that Bali?... To me they seem like heavy bricks. They don't have daggerboards. How well are they going to sail? For that kind of money something from Balance, Outremer or Marsaudon Composites seem like a much better choice if you want a structurally sound boat. If I'm not mistaken Shane in this vid is quite the fan of Marsaudon Composites...

[@davidwebber6956]

@@angela1984a Hi there . Those are all crazy expensive and too performance focused . We just mess about in the Med for fun with grown up kids and friends so the solid foredeck looks like a great area for them to hang out . Everywhere is so close performance would be fun for me but really living space is top priority.

[@angela1984a]

@@davidwebber6956 Well... We now know how Lagoon builds their cats... So if it was my call I guess I would go with the builder that builds the strongest and most durable boat in the category that you're looking at. But I do not know which builder that is. Guessing though that there are more factors at play here than just a hard front deck...

[@davidwebber6956]

@@angela1984a so hypothetical question : Leopard or Lagoon or FP or Bali ? 😊

[@angela1984a]

@@davidwebber6956 I don't know. But I would be very skeptical against anything from Lagoon.

[@kptbillburkett8735]

If i was ya'll, I would be looking at a New Boat builder and see what you can come up with. The longer you are off the water the more you lose. I get it your standers are high. Remember ALL Boats are going to have something wrong with it. So the the choice is New or used and I think you should go New. Just my opinion. Boats are going down. I believe your looking around 500 k. And seawind has a New boat around that price in the 1160. The HH is 850 k. And that is a 44 ft Boat I believe. I don't know how much work ya'll are wanting to do on a used Boat. But you have most likely thought of all that. When we got are Boat it took me over 5 years. And I got a very good deal on her. And after 5 years I sold her Back to the old owners and made 20k. Ok keep on looking and I well be here on my lanai with some Kona coffee waiting for your next video. So Aloha from the Big Island of Hawaii! Aloha

[@angela1984a]

They have talked about this in previous vids. They are unable to pay cash for a new performance multihull and they do not want to go into debt.

[@TheOKellys]

or maybe we will just buy something out south of Hilo and go for a ride with you! Aloha! Stopped in Honolulu yesterday!

[@kptbillburkett8735]

@@angela1984a I get not wanting to go in debt. It is nice not to have a Boat payment or house payment. But what is your time worth? A new bout they can pay over half up front and make more videos for the rest. And after 4 or 5 years sale it and get most of it back on the sale of the Boat.Alot easier to Maintain a new boat than an old one.

[@kptbillburkett8735]

@@TheOKellys lol! We are on the Big Island of Hawaii. In Ocean View. About 50 miles south of Kona and 75 miles west of Hilo. Let us know if you would like to stop by and stay. My wife is a Great cook. And the ocean view from our lanai is to die for. Shot us a email and I can give you our phone number. Aloha

[@ZoneTelevision]

Dude you have to do the salesman voice more ! Hilarious 😆

[@TheOKellys]

but wait....there's more.... lol

[@ZoneTelevision]

@@TheOKellys yessss! There’s always more lol

[@jersonjim3605]

👏👏👏👍

[@FunsongsMusicByPeterRahill]

892nd subscriber LIKE; 7,276th desktop looky-loo view; what's next?

[@carolinaanthoness9428]

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[@jamesaron1967]

Scary stuff. I don't think I'd ever buy a used boat unless it's under a year old and had no major claims or incidents. Too much history and uncertainty.

[@davidhakes3884]

Ok Build a Mumby Your way. That is my final answer...

[@angela1984a]

They've talked about this in previous vids. They don't want to spend the time. They'll rather spend that time cruising on an existing boat. They've even talked about Mumbys. They seem to be a bit concerned about the future value of Mumbys...

[@TheOKellys]

We got nothing agains the boat. We simply don't have the fortitude for a build. Respect to anyone who goes that route.

[@tabdougherty8549]

Wannabe sailor. Thanks for the content!

[@tomatobrush3283]

Have you bought a boat yet? haha

[@jimmybrokos4610]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🇺🇸

[@emirruzdic2597]

Second comment

[@lordhydromage6614]

Buy a new one

[@angela1984a]

They have talked about this in previous vids. They are unable to pay cash for a new performance multihull and they do not want to go into debt.

[@brianswanland5466]

It's easy to see why you haven't bought a boat yet. You have so many gotchas that it would be impossible to find one.

[@peterwootton1978]

Exactly my thought...

[@blake-taylor]

First comment

[@cutekidstories]

First sub comment

[@rustie4242]

So you didn't like my comment?

[@TheOKellys]

Don’t see it

[@dwtrksvc]

Oh, y'all still trying to buy a boat? Who knew?

[@fredbrillo1849]

I look to see if the boat has been kept clean...is the bilge dirty? Is the upholstery dirty, torn or missing? Those are the first signs of an abused boat then the scratches, dings, mismatched gelcoat and dirty running rigging.

[@holodeckdragon8876]

now I see why it's tsken so long for u guys to find a boat. u know too much!!

[@talkshitko9234]

🤍🇬🇧👍