Saving Private Ryan: The Nazi Sniper (HD CLIP)

[@WE_WUZ]

In the extended cut, his last words before dying were "family is everything"

[@zerujstiglitz6137]

HAHAHAHAAHAH

[@pierce5808]

You had me in the first half, not gonna lie hahaha

[@headhunter7342]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@keithmoore3800]

Dong is the truth. All hail DONG!

[@matthew_natividad]

Not surprised

[@christopher9979]

"I wouldn't venture out there fellas, this sniper's got talent". A classic line giving both respect and warning.

[@DeeDee-jv8sl]

Yup! I thought the same shit. Definitely acknowledging this sniper probably wouldn’t miss if someone peaked him.

[@elitescorpioyt2820]

@@DeeDee-jv8sl hes hardscoping 😂

[@1233-n8j]

barry pepper is one of my favourite actors. This and knockaround guys are great

[@CR-nn1by]

@@elitescorpioyt2820 man I would be quick scoping, slide cancelling, bunny hopping all over the place

[@elitescorpioyt2820]

@@CR-nn1by right? who wouldnt? 😂😂 1080 silent shot. 💀 jk

[@humanbeing4841]

This movie doesn't look like a 90s movie. Cinematography and filming technique have aged unbelievably well.

[@jamessullivan4391]

Well, your Mom doesn't look like a 90s gal either but there it is.

[@humanbeing4841]

@@jamessullivan4391 lol 🤣

[@schmo2109]

@@jamessullivan4391 #shotsfired

[@andresn.8507]

In fact, that movie looked just like a 90s movie. One of the best movies time ERA. Nowadays movies with so many effects look like shit. No scripts creativity no good photography. No good dialogues. Only superhero and tiktok jokes that are supposed to be funny

[@jamessullivan4391]

@@humanbeing4841 You have a sense of humor. My trolling is sent back light years.. I will not fuck with you again. #impressedasshit.

[@lalotime]

Love how there isn't any music blasting throughout scenes. Makes it feel way more intense and realistic

[@thffkfltm]

True

[@callusklaus2413]

There's something about tension and rainfall. Even a game like airsofting, I was deep in a bush, all shrouded in camouflage, waiting for the enemy team to trot past me. I let the first three or four get by me before I layed into the last guy. I schwacked a couple of them but most of them got by me, and then we waited on each other for a long while. The rain on the foliage, the splash of water off of my silly toy, it was the only thing moving, a long murmuring pause after a moment of intense action. Absolutely incredible, glad I will probably never have to do something like that for real.

[@bananasaregood8655]

Exactly, just the relentless rainfall. Epic movie not seen it for years

[@pitchinrules88]

He also does that with jurassic park. Genius

[@mariangabrael373]

This aint Hollywood where epic theme songs starts blasting during a re-enactment of war

[@jaywhoisit4863]

Barry Pepper is an underrated actor. He’s the American sniper and he’s a great addition to any movie.

[@cv507]

berrypepper vv

[@NormAppleton]

Pepper is Canadian

[@fb2551]

Good in true grit also

[@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049]

Areed

[@gaz4840]

He played a great part in True Grit as Lucky Ned Pepper

[@seekeroftruth101]

Spielberg at his absolute best. To this day Spielberg's camera movements are just incredible.

[@pab1381]

This film and Jurassic park are my favorites but this is his most jarring film to me.

[@bapr3887]

Its Janusz Kamiński movement and job.

[@opinion56]

he absolutely pioneered this gonzo documentary style that greengrass took and popularized. No other movie was really filmed like this prior kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWLaaJuVqZ5-nqc

[@failtolawl]

I am very glad that they got rid of the constant shaky camera though in todays movies.

[@rainforesthk2181]

This scene just nailed it all

[@steveskeet1]

Vin Diesel was all about family.

[@dicklong4038]

😂😂😂

[@flexseahawks73]

😂

[@terryschnereger8531]

He had hair.

[@stereotype928]

Only happened cuz he learned Hector was runnin 2 civics with t66 turbos and spoon engines…knew he couldn’t win against that…ha!

[@erichuie3329]

...but he didn't make it another 1/4 mile

[@Nevets1073]

The piano makes sounds twice, first when the bullet that goes through Caparzo and hits the piano, then when Caparzo falls onto the piano. The notes are jarring, you don't expect that sound in that moment. The cinematography, music, and sound editing really made this seen incredibly intense.

[@lainemartin9120]

Yeah the detail is insane i didn’t realize it until now but one of the actors thumbs is bruised because of Garand thumb

[@rachmatzulfiqar]

This film is worse than horror movies it had all of that horror movie trope , but war is real ,

[@sj-237]

Thanks for pointing it out.

[@shritejpasalkar5167]

At first I thought the video & the sound were out of sync.

[@josephsuarez9594]

Unique, not jarring.

[@djcatsuitsonaboat]

the sound the piano made after he was shot just added fear to the unknown. that couldn’t have been on accident. pure genius.

[@wiry7428]

The piano's sound caused when caparzo fell on a piano, moments after he get shot

[@BallZakc]

So true!

[@tommasoromano9775]

I thought was just music to fear the people, but make him fall on the piano and before of the bullet that passes through the piano was an incredible lighting of genius, masterpiece

[@barbarossa1234]

This scene was hard to watch.

[@mmgaming-pu7zt]

probably the sound of gunshot echoing in the bell (german sniper guy is on some sort of a bell tower) and then the piano, 10x better than dramatic music. truly amazing yet terrifying movie

[@normancook965]

This actor playing the German sniper is just incredible, with how the expression of his eyes change from what appears to be compassion when looking at the dying man to all business when surveying the area.

[@charlesdixon552]

It must have been his SS training.

[@surprisedchar2458]

The word you’re looking for is remorse.

[@MrFrinZy]

@@surprisedchar2458 "Compassion" is perfectly fine. You'd need compassion to be remorseful of hurting someone.

[@vosanajazyku1320]

Many Czech stuntmen worked on this film, who are considered to be top in their field. The German sniper is one of them. His name is Leoš Stránský and he is currently the head of a company that performs stunt scenes for many Hollywood films. Leoš described for Czech television that the scene was very difficult for him. The sweat, which is visible in the film, is real, he said, because it was very hot at the time and the scene was filmed for several hours, during which the director shouted at him where to look.

[@sampod1555]

He's also gorgeous

[@karlosortegayoutube]

three impressive things about jackson here: he immediately recognized how good the opposing sniper is, knew the range of the shot, and took him out from the low ground

[@coronavirusisacommunistchi845]

A through the scope shot is only possible if the shooter is on a higher elevation than the target because of bullet drop. In real life, he might have killed him but the bullet did not go through the enemy’s scope.

[@AlchemistOfNirnroot]

@@coronavirusisacommunistchi845 You could in theory aim higher to adjust for bullet drop. Realistically it never happens. There have been claims that it's been done in Vietnam but I'm not too sure how reliable those sources are.

[@reallyhappenings5597]

@@coronavirusisacommunistchi845 Nonsense. The properties of a parabollic trajectory don't change with respect to elevation.

[@thatdude2508]

@@AlchemistOfNirnroot Carlos Hathcock did do it in Vietnam and it was verified but he shot at someone lower than him.

[@mattgonzales3994]

@@coronavirusisacommunistchi845 if a sniper did do that, we wouldn't know. apparently ....as of this.....based on my statement.... yeah. it's happened.

[@xDudeHimSelfx]

No matter how many years pass, this movie will still be the best ww2 movie of all time. I've watched it over 15times and I never get tired of it

[@seanquinn4787]

If it's on tv I can't turn it off. A masterpiece.

[@redwojak5182]

watch it 300th times pls, is good for your brain, and always trust them to tell the truth

[@turkyish]

Try a film called come and see, now that’s a film

[@MsUltraBob]

@@turkyish I agree Come and See is the best ww2 movie and captures the horror of war better than any other movie I have ever seen.

[@4realjacob637]

Band of Brothers is my gold standard.

[@r.b.ratieta6111]

Another thing I didn't realize until watching this for the millionth time is the German sniper began to suspect another sniper. Traditionally, American soldiers would have laid down covering fire in the direction of the sniper while grabbing their wounded man in a large group to minimize time of exposure. When these soldiers didn't do that, the sniper checked to see if his men had left him for dead. When he saw Caparzo (Vin Diesel) conversing with Tom Hanks behind the car, he thought "Why is no one running or attacking?" My thinking is at that point he realized, "There's another sniper somewhere."

[@Supperdude9]

That's very sound logic. If you can't precision a problem, you overwhelm it. If they didn't have their own sniper to deal with him, they would have just blasted in the direction of the shot, covering fire all over the place. The look on his face also told a tale that he knew something was very wrong. They were going to deal with him precisely.

[@rbrtck]

If this were real life, they probably should/would have used the alternative tactic anyway, as Caparzo might have had a chance if the medic could have stopped the bleeding with a hemostat or whatever it would have taken. But of course, this being a movie, they went for something more dramatic with pathos. Besides, in real life, I doubt that German sniper would have stayed put unless he wanted to die.

[@Zoze13]

What’s with Jackson turning his scope “two clicks”?

[@Supperdude9]

@@Zoze13 Adjusting the magnification of his scope.

[@zombieoutbreakprod]

@@Zoze13 Zeroing the range in.

[@ammarsalmi]

What I like about saving private Rayan is that it didn't try to dehumanize the enemy. Notice the facial expression of the sniper as he watched his victim die. Masterful depiction of war.

[@Tempusverum]

War is gross. Most Russians don't want to be in Ukraine either

[@andrus6663]

@@Tempusverum thats not true. most of them want to be there. most of the russian society wants this war, because they miss thier old glory, want to be again a one of the main players on the international stage and feel attacked by NATO because of its expansion to southern Europe. well, good that their win in this war is unlikely to happen at the moment.

[@Emper0rH0rde]

@@Tempusverum Frankly, I don't think Vladimir Putin wants to be in Ukraine, either. I think he wants war even less than Zelensky, who just recently was calling for World War III, does.

[@imhandsome1309]

@@Tempusverum meanwhile israel:

[@landrat5217]

Lol. If there was ever a director dehumanizing Germans it is Spielberg.

[@willismcgillis6094]

Barry pepper had some of the best roles in cinema history. His performance in the green mile was nothing short of gold

[@kevinrodriguez9701]

I liked his portrayal of Joe Gallaway in we were soldiers

[@luigivincenz3843]

@@kevinrodriguez9701 I was going to post that. Barry Pepper was an in-demand Canadian actor, and naturalized American citizen. Pepper lived with the real life family of the character he was playing before he took the role out of respect.

[@gronolachunks]

When i first saw this is was longggg after the mile and when i saw him in this i just KNEW ut was going to be gold.

[@Rimasta1]

What about Battlefield Earth?

[@mainmkpc2740]

@@Rimasta1 Yeah exactly Might have had some good roles but that one role in BE.... how bad

[@gibster9624]

Had the privilege of seeing this movie in theaters. I tell ya you can feel the entire rooms emotion watching this movie. This scene specifically stood out as the entire room was dead silent like everyone was feeling deep sorrow as Caparzo's last thoughts were of his father in a situation where he was so close to his squadmates yet so far.

[@drivingintothedesertuntilt3202]

worst casting ever

[@Kozuu7]

@@drivingintothedesertuntilt3202wish your parents used a condom

[@panchopistola8298]

It’s like the only good movie he is in …

[@kbanghart]

@@panchopistola8298 doubtful

[@kbanghart]

I saw it in the theater too. For sure, many of us considered walking out when it began.

[@Chofrizzy]

Even in his dying moments, Carpazo was still thinking about family.

[@micky8331]

I'm dying thank you

[@kingchubbythe1541]

Don Toretto?

[@georgebuller1914]

Yes - because it was in the SCRIPT! LOL

[@georgebuller1914]

@@Ben-ek1fz Well, gosh, YES! LOL

[@megalosergamer4480]

HAHAHHAHAHA

[@blackbeardgamer5909]

Love the small detail of showing the muzzle flash from the rifle before hearing the shot as you would in real life. This movie is hands down the greatest war movie ever made. I doubt it can be topped

[@drey8]

except there isn't a muzzle flash from a rifle like this.

[@iNathanLite]

Hacksaw Ridge

[@blackbeardgamer5909]

@@drey8 Depending on the powder used in the load. Some powders burn slower and will show a muzzle flash. Also barrel length plays a factor.

[@drey8]

@@blackbeardgamer5909 possibly, but I'm a shooter with years of experience and never ever seen or heard of anything like this, in fact people would be horrified if they saw it. That barrel's 24in long which is plenty. I've seen machine guns fired on ranges and fired plenty of pistols myself and none produced muzzle flash. More to the point, no sniper is going to use powder that burns slower (slower muzzle velocity surely?) and produce a flash to give their position away. So, with respect, I still think muzzle flash is a post-production add on in movies.

[@blackbeardgamer5909]

@@drey8 Oh I know I'm an avid shooter also and also a 07/02 SOT so I have plenty of post sample machine guns and SBR's. I usually only get bad muzzle flash on short barrels that don't give it time to burn all the powder. Oh and for sure it is added post production. It's def for show to give it more dramatic effect. And typically a slower burning powder doesn't mean less velocity. In fact slower burning powders can give off more energy (I've also been reloading for years and years)

[@SJMJ91]

"We got him. Stay down." *Everyone gets up and moves*

[@mileskluckow]

🤣

[@mileskluckow]

Tbh who tf would take orders from that guy, bro can’t even walk

[@Mikael22-18]

Jackson gave the all clear right after. He didn't wave his hand for no reason.

[@pikachured69]

Stand down*

[@GoodLookingGentlemen]

he meant to caparzo

[@javiermendez8902]

The sound the piano makes when Caparzo hits it is haunting in my opinion. Has stuck with me since my first watch.

[@ludvig5597]

Yes. They totally chose the notes with care.

[@1Bohemica]

Listen again: there are two piano chords: the first is in the lower register, struck simultaneously with the shot (like a jump scare effect), the other in the upper register (sounds like a minor forming an octave). It's a sound effect, added during post-production for accentuating the shock of the incoming shot.

[@touchofevil516]

Piano sound reminds me of the movie “The Pelican Brief!” With Danzel Washington and Julia Roberts. Awesome movie! 👍🏼

[@randynichols9742]

When the bullet hits him then the piano is rough

[@andreav9538]

Be with your family, this scene should teach you that.

[@phuntshodorji3903]

Vin Diesel died because the bullet was too fast and too furious for him.

[@davidlangemark1016]

Bru….

[@gamerdream7465]

God damn it kenobi

[@charlessmith6625]

AWESOME comment 💀

[@mikeroberts8637]

🤣

[@whoknew2273]

He needed his FAMILY lol

[@Carlito_Brigante93]

The way this masterpiece was filmed is incredible, nothing today even came close.

[@frynfps93]

idk bro the american sniper one was pretty good

[@nationradical]

Dunkirk? 1917?!!!!

[@Carlito_Brigante93]

@@frynfps93 are you being sarcastic?

[@frynfps93]

@@Carlito_Brigante93 when he murked the enemy sniper from 1.5 miles away avenging his boy pickles? nah bro im not

[@MrMannyhw]

But it lost to Shakespeare in love lol

[@thomasjames9678]

The close up of water dripping from the rifle remaining still in the rain before the sniper gets shot is haunting. Great cinematography. 1998 and this movie is still one of the best war movies to this day.

[@sreedeepchatterjee8478]

Can we just have a minute to appreciate the physics of this scene. When he shoots the rifle, we see the muzzle flash 1st and then hear the gunshot, because velocity of light is far greater than that of sound.....just brilliant

[@BipoIarbear]

Technically u don't hear the gunshot its self , u hear the crack of the round hitting the sound barrier . So theres actually 2 bangs 😁

[@LevNavarre]

That might have been correct, but everything else about the counter-shot (against the German sniper) is wrong. The terminal ballistics are impossible. Specifically: presuming a 2800fps muzzle velocity (normal or even a little generous for M2 ammo out of a Springfield 1903), a 30-06 round is on a downward trajectory at 450 yards, and has been for most of its flight. It would be physically impossible for the bullet to enter German sniper's scope at an upward angle and continue into the sniper's eye.

[@BipoIarbear]

@@LevNavarre it was an sas guy who did the tactical stuff , its actually from a real story but wasn't like this an didn't go through the glass at the front but into the top of the sight bounced around the casing into the eye , I have to stress it was a story passed to him so ya dunno but those sas guys don't need to make stuff up really , but this shot in the movie is impossible , cool tho

[@kuroroluxifer8321]

@@LevNavarre iirc mythbusters literally proved that no matter the angle, shooting through a scope like that is impossible..so yeah, it's just meant to make the scene cool.

[@laurischlesinger6326]

@@LevNavarre Remind me never to go to a movie with you

[@talitemjenimchen3048]

Probably one of the greatest war movie ever made. Unforgettable characters, and actors. Nothing like this will ever be replaced.

[@4exgold]

even as someone involved on the lower end of the production of SPR, I can say that "The Thin Red Line" is definetly a superior film. However, youre right in that SPR is one of the top films of modern cinema.

[@talitemjenimchen3048]

@@4exgold Yes, TRL is unforgettable too.

[@shareshareshare8590]

​@@4exgoldwhat exactly do u do

[@4exgold]

@@shareshareshare8590 was just an extra

[@lanceandrew1319]

Jackson: "I wouldn't venture out there, fellas. This sniper's got talent." Also Jackson: *ventures out there and got the sniper that's got talent

[@RuinsOfTheUnknown]

Which proves he is more talented

[@samuelneedham1914]

"turns out america's got talent"

[@SYNIKAL89]

Was so pissed when Jackson died. He was one of my favorite characters.

[@saritilong7895]

@@SYNIKAL89 Jackson died? 🥲

[@kitingful]

@@saritilong7895 Yes, he has been shot by German's tank on the church tower.

[@Nanomachines5on]

The broken piano being right in front of him as the soldier gets taken down and bangs into the keys is a touch of cinematic genius! There is no music in the background or loud soundtrack to kick things off. Just the screams and loud discordant bang of the piano keys. Really drives home the shock and horror of the situation.

[@yuane45632]

That’s why snipers relocate after their shot

[@AllenHanPR]

If you're a noob sniper, but it's hard that was the only dry spot and high ground.

[@whatsgoingon07]

Thats the downside of being in a birds nest, you can't go anywhere

[@brucekilby9957]

Yeah because there is a good chance the enemy has snipers,especially in built up areas. That Nazi sniper should have moved straight after. It's a great movie though.

[@paras1176]

yeah... if you got the oppertunity to relocate... but on the other hand... that's another trash American heromovie about the enemy being totally stupid and incompetent and shit. It just really upsets me if they even go that far to write "after real events/ a true story" - in the end it is all made up and everything changed to make it more exciting and dramatic to watch. Also what the hell is even this title? Nazi sniper? Did he snipe Nazis? I highly doubt alot of acctual German soldiers back than were actually Nazis... but that's the typical good-vs-bad shit... create a villain and a hero and there is nothing or not much beside that... For me it is even more illogical that this sniper taken the shot and than did nothing anymore - what did he do in this over two minutes? Make and eat a German sandwich?! I think even more important would be to not let your enemy a chance to regroup/ organize again and even more to get a shot on you, but all of that happened here. This does not fit the character you see there. Even that you only catch a few seconds on him, you see somebody being attentive, calm, not to young - so most likely even experienced and propably also a quite decent marksman. It does not fit at all...

[@Hu1ud]

@@paras1176 well the story is based on the Sullivan brothers who were real and from the cedar valley in Iowa. Obviously they wrote a story around it but the core theme is based in truth.

[@stealthassasin1day291]

A real sniper hops around and quick scopes people not camp while being outnumbered.

[@ToddJumper]

This ain't Call of Duty.

[@xiSWIIFTix]

is it fortnite?

[@sinunknown9929]

This is Counterstrike... camping is mandatory...

[@kirkfranklinboy1986]

Go do your research

[@We_Are_Borg_478]

@@kirkfranklinboy1986 You completely missed the joke. Let's go Brandon!!!

[@smittywerbenjaegermanjense4035]

Although he only gets a few seconds of screen time I adore how this unnamed German sniper is portrayed. You can tell by his actions and movement that he is very skilled at what he does, but he does not take pride in what he is doing based on his expression. He looks shocked almost at what he's done. He sees what Diesel's character is trying to do and likely feels empathy for him but because he's on the other side he must fight him.

[@daveybernard1056]

Rare photos/footage of German snipers shows them heavily cammoed up. I guess the ones who didn't, weren't around very long.

[@The_Riot]

@@daveybernard1056 And the ones that were we’ll never hear about because nobody saw/ survived them.

[@Anarchizer]

He does not feel empathy. He is using a wounded soldier as a bait to draw out the others. That is why he didn't shoot the second time.

[@smittywerbenjaegermanjense4035]

@@Anarchizer That's what he's trained to do and like I said by his expression you can tell that hates doing things like that but his country is about to be invaded and he has no other choice

[@teddyhightower843]

@@Anarchizer he didn't shoot second time also to not reveal his position- that's the basic rule od the business Kolego :-)

[@DyspareEmbodied]

This was Jackson's scene, but I tear up just a little hearing Wade. He wants nothing more than to save lives. It's not just a job, it's what he is.

[@charlesdixon552]

Jackson had a scene earlier in the movie by sniping the mg-42 machine gun nest.

[@Bayomeer]

And he does not want to take any lives. Notice how he does not have a weapon, he is a conscientious objector just like Desmond Doss.

[@panchopistola8298]

It’s a movie ….

[@mingchenwei1978]

@@panchopistola8298Oh yeah guys, it’s a movie. So that gives us absolutely no reason to fucking care about the story, nor the characters. Why tf are we even talking about it then? Why did we even watch this movie?

[@panchopistola8298]

@@mingchenwei1978 exactly .

[@danpatterson8009]

The greatest praise for this film came from a WWII vet who said simply "That's exactly how it was."

[@Hitithardify]

My great grandfather was at D-Day Omaha beach and saw this movie in theaters. He broke down in tears and said that very sentence. It was the first and only time that we ever heard him talk about his experience in WW2

[@laminnabam2752]

Now that's how good this film is!

[@malkum77ify]

Some of the World War ii've had sides spoke to about the movie said what they showed in movie doesn't compare to what they actually experienced. The real thing was far worse. But yes, they did the best they could to describe and portray the horrors of war.

[@kingtrawal]

Dayam

[@technewsfortechnoobs]

And to think Vin Diesel got this role after simply doing vocal work on The Iron Giant! Still one of my favorite WWII-era films to this day. Not because of the battle scenes, but because they dealt a lot with the mental aspect of what some of the ground troops dealt with. Soldiers truly did resent being sent on rescue missions to find one or two people out of an entire war to send them home while their squad or fellow soldiers got killed in the process.

[@Hunty49]

Nobody actually knew where the shot came from. Nobody saw the shot. Sniper Private Jackson only guessed the sniper was in that location from experience as a sniper. The German sniper was probably waiting for squad mates to help him to get more targets.

[@ronaldrobertson2332]

@@Hunty49 That's usually how it works.

[@808Goose]

Pretty sure iron giant came the year after this movie but that’s cool I didn’t know he was the voice for the giant that’s interesting

[@kristoffersevillena7657]

Steven Spielberg saw Vin Diesel's independent film he wrote and directed, "Multi-Facial." That why Spielberg gave him a call. If you watch it, you'll see why.

[@technewsfortechnoobs]

@@kristoffersevillena7657 you're right...i got my timeline off a little. And actually I have seen Multi-Facial. There was a book I read years ago where it was referenced, so I had to go check it out. This was right around the time the very first Fast & Furious film was released, so it made a big impact as I was, at the time, trying to get into acting. But I have since found more enjoyment with the writing and creating part of things.

[@Fn0r1Chase]

This film did a wonderful job in connecting you with each and every character. And every death felt so real and you actually felt like you lost somebody you knew.

[@Wilkins325]

I love the way Mellish delivers the line at 3:17. You can tell he trusted in Jackson's skills and it paid off. Its like hes telling the other soldiers "see, I told you Jackson's a beast".

[@nicholibre]

I like how Vin Diesel falls on to the piano after getting shot, the key that plays has a cool affect on your emotion

[@michaela7100]

No it doesn't

[@Larping101]

The first key playing was the bullet impacting the piano.

[@tritosac]

@@michaela7100 Yes it does.

[@ChalkyHonky]

@@tritosac he should've double clutched he's a buster

[@thosearentpillows5638]

@@Larping101 never noticed that before. Cheers!

[@vinh7889]

The sniper was able to hit a 450 yard headshot because Dom was his family.

[@rodrigobarba930]

If only more people understood this

[@gearzone2611]

Took me three times to get it.

[@zerujstiglitz6137]

WAJAAJJAAHAHAHAHAHAA

[@mikeferguson1249]

Quarter mile at a time

[@kleetus92]

I laughed a little too hard at at that!

[@robertc7232]

The two best cinematic depictions of WW2 hands down: Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers.

[@gorkypl]

For real depiction check "Come and see". You may change your attitude towards war though.

[@izziharris5810]

You gotta try The Pacific too - Spielberg produced it, it's a great miniseries.

[@robertc7232]

@@izziharris5810 I've seen it. It's really good too, just not as good as BoB in my opinion.

[@Misfits89]

Generation war

[@as52343]

@@gorkypl its definitly the most disturbing depiction of war portrayed on film that Ive ever seen. Its hard to compare Come and see with SPR and BOB tough. Very different portrayals of Ww2. They are all amazing in their own right though!

[@user-oo8zt1sc1c]

Jackson's rifle with water falling and his stance looks great, badass. Those little details make a movie unforgettable.

[@josuebenvindo]

I wonder if they think about that when filming. Is that drop of water CGI or just bare luck?

[@castlehedge]

“He doesn’t relocate. A sniper who doesn’t relocate isn’t normal. He was good. Very, very good.” - Russian sniper in a movie

[@justjon5945]

Enemy at the Gates

[@bigtime9597]

Generally a sniper who doesn't relocate is a very bad sniper. From what I've heard from snipers during those competitions, a good sniper will stay in one place for no more than three shots. Then they relocate.

[@justjon5945]

@@bigtime9597 tell that to the Austin tower shooter.

[@Panos-xo9rc]

@@justjon5945 Charles Whitman went to the Austin tower to die.

[@justjon5945]

@@Panos-xo9rc but he still didn't relocate

[@KoOkiEzRoCkz]

Diesel's character was very unlikely to survive anyway, but the way he dies is so heartbreaking. So close yet so far from his squad-mates. And they cant do anything but sit and wait.

[@denisdeari1]

How do you know that? Did you see exactly where he was shot and what parts of the body were affected

[@junestorm]

​@@denisdeari1Look how much he is bleeding and the amount of blood he lost.

[@denisdeari1]

@@junestorm OP said "anyway" so he meant that he wouldn't have made it even if the medic would have gotten a hold on him right after he was shot. And I say: We don't know if he could have survived

[@pennsyltuckyreb9800]

​@denisdeari1 He's clearly shot on his right side torso. Maybe a liver shot. Could have also passed through a major artery in his spinal cord depending on the angle.... which is possible considering his legs failing and the quick amount of time to die along with the amount of blood loss shown.

[@sihaworth2793]

I had the honor of working on this production back in 97 at Hatfield in England. This particular scene was one of the most moving for the whole crew as Vin is a great guy on and off camera.

[@user-yi3ek5cf8j]

Guess he makes everyone feel like… family.. (puts shades on)

[@lemonjellies4985]

Can we know what work you did on the film?

[@sihaworth2793]

@@lemonjellies4985 Sure thing. I was a Rigger on a department called Construction initially. We were responsible for building the huge sets at Hatfield. While the beach landing scene was being shot in Ireland we were constructing the amazing set at the end of the runway at the Comet Biulding. I then moved onto the Operational Standby crew,, we worked alongside the main unit crew and were present each day during filming. Loved every minute of it.

[@GORILLA_PIMP]

@@sihaworth2793 "The runway at the comet building"? What part of the movie was that again?

[@sihaworth2793]

@@GORILLA_PIMP The entire town where Tom Hanks and his unit found Ryan (Matt Damon), the cathedral and the bridge, was all a huge set built at the end of the runway at the old Comet building in Hatfield. The building was an old MOD airfield where the Comet bombers were built during the 2nd world War. In fact, the scene where the women are typing and discovered that Ryan's brothers were KIA was shot in the offices of that building.

[@henrylant7049]

Spielberg is a master at creating tension. The piercing sound of a sniper rifle combined with the subsequent crumpling of Caparzo onto the destroyed piano is brilliant. It still sends a shiver down my spine when I hear that random assortment of piano notes being played. The first time I watched this movie I was legitimately shocked because of the sound design and the cinematography - they made this situation seem incredibly real. All around an excellent scene, some of the dialogue doesn't make sense at first but it still felt very real (despite the extremely unrealistic aimbot that Jackson turns into by putting a bullet through a sniper scope from 500 yards away). Spielberg is just a genius filmmaker for how he sets up scenes by utilizing the senses of the audience.

[@joeylittle3535]

If you look up Carlos hathcock he shot a sniper through their own scope in Vietnam which is probably where they got the idea from

[@abhinavamatya75]

Even the letter has an arc that gets resolved by the end. Brilliant!

[@xmynationalanthemx]

Jackson quoting Psalm 25:2 while aiming at the sniper is such a great detail.

[@billyjoe8185]

What does it mean?

[@triv4555]

@@billyjoe8185 "Let not mine enemies triumph over me"

[@rajivshori]

My favourite Psalm

[@lancewadethomas8709]

Southern man, man of God. Good with a Bible and sharp with a rifle🇺🇸👊🏻✝️

[@Tempusverum]

Reminds me of Alvin York

[@VinDiesel_452]

The POV of German sniper finding the American sniper a little too late and getting shot right before he shot him is absolutely brilliant, amazing cinematic

[@PBurns-ng3gw]

You were amazing in this scene, dude.

[@angusmcculloch6653]

Yeah. It helped the American sniper that the whole thing was scripted.

[@Melior_Traiano]

@@angusmcculloch6653 Real life US Marine sniper Carlos Hathcock, aka the "White Feather", had a very similar experience in Vietnam. He was in a cats and mouse game with an expert Vietnamese sniper. Carlos stumbled over a log, which is what saved his life. The enemy bullet flew inches past his head and hit the canteen of his spotter. Carlos then had a standoff with the enemy sniper and killed him by shooting through his scope. This was only possible because the enemy sniper was looking directly at him. Carlos was faster to pull the trigger, which saved his life. He later founded the US Marine Scout Sniper School.

[@mistergengar1293]

That's a damn clean shot, snipers are sone of the most intelligent, observant and some of the most patient soldiers you can ever find, and that's what makes them dangerous

[@sukidabean4424]

I would like to think the German sniper shot Caparzo because he seemed like an officer of higher rank, pointing and directing his ‘troops’ around the area. The sniper really does have talent, waiting in silence and knowing to target higher-value soldiers when the time is right. Note: I know that almost every sniper is told this on Day 1, but it is a detail most war movies ignore where the sniper just shoots some private instead.

[@davidovics92]

hm, I've never thought of it that way, nice catch

[@PerformanceRaven]

Caparzo owed him a 10 second car, and didn't deliver.

[@sukidabean4424]

@Peter Schmidt Ahh, that is true. If he was on recon, he should have retreated after the first shot, if shooting at all.

[@Wolf-wc1js]

That’s why in Forrest Gump Lt. Dan told Forrest and Bubba to not salute him because of potential snipers. Those kinds of gestures are used by snipers to help ID their targets

[@johnbanks4761]

could just as well been a case of shoot to wound.then shoot the person that comes to help the wounded man..and shoot the next snipers have been well known to do this...one of the reasons i hate snipers

[@jedizelfknight]

"You have Nazis, I have family."- Toretto

[@40950999]

Dammit I wanted to write that.

[@cldpizza5392]

I am Groot

[@matthew_natividad]

Superman

[@adibfarhan7956]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mirzabaig2004]

The sniper Christian was one of my favorite characters. Amazing movie.

[@CrobianYT]

*Private Jackson.*

[@BenAri18]

" Its for my dad " even before the franchise began Dom was always preaching about family

[@michaelh7527]

I will never forget when me and my brother really affected our grandfather one Thanksgiving. Our grandfather was over for dinner and we wanted to play with our dads new surround sound system. We had this movie on vhs. We turned up the first part of the movie. Our grandfather suddenly changed. He became very restless, agitated and like he was somewhere else. He went upstairs and locked himself in the bedroom. Our grandmother couldn't get him to come out and he was in there for hours. My brother and I didn't mean anything and felt horrible. Our dad talked to us and said he was involved in the war and that is all he knows. He wont talk about it and refuses any counseling.

[@jmath24410]

Thanks for sharing. I am sorry how it affected him. I heard world war II vets shared that the first few minutes, of this movie reminded them of how it was on D Day

[@Toga17701]

Same thing here but it was my friends grandfather and it was the movie FURY. His grandfather fought against the SS Battalions and indeed during an encounter/skirmish ober a bunker location with a new battalion of SS troops they were singing while marching on approach just like in the movie, he was asleep in the living room when he heard the scene in fury where the SS Battalion is singing on there way to the crossroad, that man snapped into something, he was screaming and shouting orders and yelling out death threats in English and German like he was back in Germany....I don't blame him, the SS were horrible mfs, and he was reminded of them because we couldn't turn the TV down a little 😔 at first I thought it was funny then my friend leaps across the living room and nearly destroys the TV and turns it off, his grandfather is in tears and is saying names of people we've never met, felt so bad I haven't been over since, this was 2 years ago....

[@LABELLEEPOQUE516]

OJALÁ TU ABUELO ESTE MEJOR 🙏😔💖 , Saludos 😌👍

[@davidgray8654]

Gotta say there is nothing wrong with your grandfathers response, in fact that is exactely what a man should do, manage his exposure to horror, stress, trauma and loss by himself in his way. No one else knows or can ever understand what he was exposed to and had to manage, so he still does it by himself in his own way because nobody can really help him except himself. God bless him.

[@michaelh7527]

@@davidgray8654 I honestly to this day feel bad about what happened even though we innocently meant and knew nothing. He was a good guy and did not deserve that pain from us even though it was intentional and unknown at the time.

[@vladpavlo]

The sniper in this scene is taking aim at Diesel due to the reason that he is pointing the ways with his hand - which means from far away that he is the squad leader. One of the few rules that U.S soldiers had to never do is to pointing with their hands or waving on open fields.

[@murphy13295]

" never point " . I learned that from my Dad before I left grade school . The long form , not the Nuns quip .

[@johnreyes8178]

That’s a fair point he also injured him and not killed him as a way to draw out more soldiers to take out. It’s a common sniper tactic. As Jackson said “this snipers got talent” I am never gonna look at this scene the same way again thank you for your insight!! 🙂

[@justdoingitjim7095]

Also reminding the FNG's to quit saluting the officers in the field! That's a sure way to get an officer killed!

[@ivermektin6874]

@@justdoingitjim7095 YES LIEUTENANT DAN

[@jeffreyb8770]

Ah, that sniper hit a buck private, then stayed put to get shot back at. Talent my a**!

[@EvPrimus]

I feel bad for Wade. It's tough, horrible and frustrating thing i'd imagine being a medic and seeing one of your comrades bleeding out before your eyes and you are equipped and ready to help them but you just can't. It show's how much Wade really cared for others and didn't deserve his fate.

[@HelicopterDr]

I remember watching this when it came out in 1998, I was only 16, the movie then was action packed and thrilling. Now 38 and served two tours to Iraq and having PTSD I can no longer watch this movie. The realism that Spielberg put into this movie is very realistic and the fact he interviewed dozens of ww2 survivors and put those perspectives into the movie is just a whole new level of directing.

[@MrDad743]

Thank you for your time and sacrifice. This may come as a bit shallow, or cliché, perhaps even an understatement, but how is it going? Are you doing well and recovering?

[@HelicopterDr]

@@MrDad743 thanks for the concern. Yes, it's better now than it has been in the past. Been out of the military 14 years and there are still days that it is a struggle.

[@MrDad743]

@@HelicopterDr I can't even begin to imagine what you have been, and are going through. Many people know of the battle out there in the field, but few know of the battle within the mind. Though I cannot help you recover and find peace, as that is something only you can do, I will pray that the journey is a bit easier. Best of luck, and lots of love. Take care 😊

[@jakelegler5826]

Is that our que to thank you for your service?

[@MrDad743]

@@jakelegler5826 Nah bro, that's your cue to leave, and learn that a little bit of respect and a couple seconds of typing goes a long way and never hurt no one.

[@benmorgan8890]

2:41 I love how the German looked genuinely upset that he’s doing this, but then immediately goes back to his job. This movie did an incredible job showing the humanity on both sides of the conflict.

[@followingtheroe1952]

Thats what got him killed in the end

[@aceofcheems7685]

"We gottem! Stay down!" 😀 Caparzo: *fucking dead*

[@phillybatts374]

Caparzo- "I almost had you" Sniper- you never had me...you never had your apple.

[@makingmiracleshappen]

Also sniper: Streets closed soldier boy, find another way home

[@hello7032]

Holy shit this is good

[@ceelos1994m]

Get your shine box

[@taylorcain3271]

Crazy how amazing this movie still holds up today.

[@Soggersnuggets]

It's better than 99% of the modern movies, where CGI and shitty acting rules

[@TheWelchProductions]

@@Soggersnuggets You can thank streaming services for that.

[@michaelcherni2856]

Great script, cast and director. And the opening beach invasion scene is a hallmark in cinema history.

[@DAYWOKR]

Favorite part of this scene, is the dark contrast of gray and rain, with a single, angel like red wing of blood exiting through Caparzos sleeve. Very beautifully done

[@salutations8705]

*looking up at tower* "that's where I'd be" *German guy looking at the blue car* "that's where I'd be"

[@harryv6752]

I remember going to watch this movie in the theaters on release day not knowing at all what to expect, just knowing that it's a Spielberg film and that it was gonna be good. I walked out of the theater that day, after the movie, feeling totally different. It moved me in a way that till this day, I still can't quite describe. Speechless, pretty much. Still a fuckin' awesome and timeless film.

[@Kraken9911]

Why can't we have movies release like that more often? The last one for me was interstellar.

[@harryv6752]

@@Kraken9911 Nice. That was definitely a stellar movie. That's one of those, "Wished I would've saw it in the theaters too."

[@xceptionl1]

felt the same way when the PPV channel descrambled and I got to watch Jenna Draws Heat

[@iwanegerstrom4564]

"Unto thee, o Lord do I lift up my soul. O my God, I trust in thee; let me not be ashamed, let not mine enemies triumph over me." -Psalm 25:1-2 KJV

[@smacdsmaccers]

+10 Accuracy

[@faramarzkiyani9935]

Dieu était avec nous

[@VqVick]

3:07 The detail in that shot is insane. You can see the blood from the exit wound splatter on the brick wall behind the German sniper, and the velocity of the round moves the burlap sack. Not to mention the bullet went directly through the scope…the perfect shot

[@bearsaremean]

Im sure someone here says it but the bullet through the scope is a true story, a Marine sniper in Vietnam named Carlos Hathcock did it. and yes that means the sniper was looking directly at him when he fired, a fraction of a second decided who lived and who died.

[@SanDiegoBoxes]

@@bearsaremeanthat’s insane. Looking the enemy right in the eyes, almost like an old time duel

[@two6850]

I’ve seen a video talking about this clip, they labeled the shot as impossible

[@ratagris21]

​@@bearsaremeanYes the Vietnamese sniper was shot through a PU scope on a Mosin-Nagant M91/30.

[@kustponu]

Mythbusters debunked this

[@thepunisher1603]

Saving private is the best war movie ever made.

[@hughgrection5674]

I’ve seen it over 20 times over the years, and each time it offers something new I missed before 😉 as a depiction of war it’s unrivalled and you are right, the best war film ever made 👍 Spielberg’s magnum opus 😊

[@nephisgolfdriver2473]

@Tims_always_fishing Platoon would have been the best if it wasn't for the goddamn bullet effects that turned the combat into some star wars type shit

[@Jomster777]

This must be the only film where the character he plays physically dies(Not counting Groot in GotG because he only voiced him and he ends up becoming reborn again anyway)

[@AlexZebol]

Young Groot is his offspring. Old one is dead.

[@Commander_Shepard.]

Groot DID die. It's his "kid"

[@hiltonb8876]

Same with Tom Hanks

[@cerberus8462]

@@hiltonb8876 tom habks dies in this movie

[@hiltonb8876]

@@cerberus8462 That’s literally what I said.

[@Erinxh]

I totally forgot Vin Diesel was in this movie. Then again it's been 20 years since the last time I saw it.

[@splitsecondblackswan]

You missed the family

[@Timboslice475]

20 years? Damn, I watch this every time it comes on. An absolute classic.

[@wiktormarski5677]

You are a masochist my friend. This masterpiece is an absolute must-see at least once for every month. Shining gem against modern crap.

[@arnaldovital4578]

Spectacular directing, cinematography, sets and sound editing. Spielberg and company were at their creative peak when they made this film.

[@FullCircleguitar]

Jackson: This sniper's got talent. Sniper: Hiding in the most obvious high ground in the village.

[@superfly4137]

Rule #1. Never under estimate the enemy. Rule #2. See Rule #1.

[@garyking5036]

@@superfly4137 Didn't expect to encounter a sniper. At the time, they were fighting paratroopers only.

[@superfly4137]

@@garyking5036 yes I know i saw the movie

[@rfcdgaf]

@@garyking5036 It doesn't matter if you expect to encounter a sniper or not. You don't pick the most obvious fucking spot ever, dumb as shit just for movie purposes

[@anusmcgee4150]

@@rfcdgaf Yeah, that sniper was such a moron, picking such a high vantage point overlooking an open area where the enemy is advancing from. Fucking movies, am I right?

[@thebrokesoulone]

The " US " has spent hundreds of millions rescuing Matt Damon. From getting him from a war to rescuing him from Mars, to trying to get him to remember who he once was in the CIA... :)

[@federalisticnewyorkians4470]

God Bless all the veterans who had to fight in this mess

[@andymiller6661]

Which god?

[@federalisticnewyorkians4470]

@@andymiller6661 Whichever you please

[@kevinb.1454]

​@@andymiller6661 The one that blesses.

[@TheWelchProductions]

“That’s why you relocate when you’re outnumbered.” -a seasoned gaming sniper who has zero experience with real life military combat

[@fluffypinkpandas]

Is it bad advice

[@HaloCEJohnnoscope]

@@fluffypinkpandas try to relocate after a few shots but be very careful because you are vulnerable as fuck when you do it.Also A good way to be undetected is to not fire in rapid succession unless nessecary.

[@JTG4764]

Or just take advantage of a silencer. I mean, there's the tracers and all that, but still. Gunshots are the most telltale signs of enemy attack.

[@toddgaak422]

@@JTG4764 "Silencer". LOL you have no idea what you're talking about.

[@JTG4764]

What? Is it suppressor? Muffler? Pew pew tube? Same thing.

[@gabos7892]

I never noticed the first guy landing on the piano. The tone he plays makes a great transition in moods of the scene.

[@xxxYouTunesxxx]

That's what I thought it was all this time

[@5325bunny]

Plot twist; the "letter" he pulled out of his vest wasn't some endearing letter to his father, it was instructions on how to properly wax his fast & furious car.

[@gradybrowning3976]

One of the best Movies I have ever seen, the sound quality made you feel as if you were there with them. One of the best films ever!

[@XLeon_S_KennedyX]

Even in WW2, Vin Diesel still thinks family is important.

[@felipesepulveda9332]

I like the fact the geman sniper is using both eyes while searching for a new target, that's real sniping, not like in movies where they use one eye only, such level of detail.

[@Tre16]

Literally a movie lol

[@therawringdog6754]

How would using both eyes help, only 1 can actually see all that way

[@felipesepulveda9332]

@@therawringdog6754 technically they use both eyes to check there the shot hits, using both eyes makes it easier for snipers to check and make corrections, they use it to have a better view to be more aware of their surrounding.

[@koreancowboy42]

Bruh professional and skilled snirs do use both eyes. You got to an real sniper whose been doing it for ages and without an spotter that's true skills. You use both eyes, correction, target hits and or to see any other movement due to the high vantage point he could have good view of enemy movements just using the scope with one eye is kinda limiting due to he can only see so much.

[@mlgamings6110]

Only problem is he's pressing his eyes all the way into the scope, which isn't a good idea because the recoil would probably hit him hard. He should have had his eye further back.

[@Playeszz]

This movie makes me bawl 😭 whenever I watch it!

[@peternehemiah1606]

Bruh Wade's and Mellish's death still stuck with me🥺🥺

[@braydendulaney6192]

Best ear movie ever

[@nuttygeezer830]

Or screaming at the screen for upham to help mellish from the nazi with the knife

[@souju_13]

Doesn't every war movie do that though? Just me? Okay

[@imSUPERcereal22]

it was my very first rated R movie. i snuck it from my mom and dads room. took both VHS tapes in my room. i remember my dad walking in on this scene thinking i was completely fucked for going in his room, but instead, he sat next to me and we watched the rest. GOOD TIMES!! RIP Daddy.

[@SweetSirenia]

Great dad. Glad you had each other. ❤

[@Musicman1017YT]

Beautiful memory! I'm sorry for your loss 🫂

[@KuzzatAltay]

I watched this movie when I was a child. The most memorable parts were the prayers of the sniper. I guess the world was better when believers were around.

[@victorymansions]

The best part is how indistinguishable Private Jackson is from his cover in the German snipers scope. When I first saw this I didn't spot him until the muzzle flash. Scary stuff.

[@bullfrogboss8008]

Nah, his helmet does stand out

[@ratagris21]

That's what snipers do - blend in with their environment.

[@TBH-nu2so]

Fun fact: this scene is based off of a real story out of ‘Nam. A US sniper nicknamed “The White Feather” for a feather he wore on his helmet was known for making incredible shots, but also taking hours, if not days, to set up the shot. For a few days, he sparred with an NVA sniper. They were exchanging shots, and both came close to dying. On the final day, he was scanning for the target when he saw the telltale glint of a sniper scope. He instinctively fired a shot, and when he went to confirm the kill, he found that his shot had passed clean through the scope without grazing the sides and went through the enemy’s eye. That meant the enemy was already trained on him, but he was just a hair faster to the trigger. Edit: I'm just gonna edit this, because a bunch of people keep commenting that it's not possible. It's a real, possible thing, and we know it because it's actually happened. I literally can't be more clear about that.

[@Calbenmike]

Carlos Hathcock

[@xFlared]

Sounds unbelievable.

[@holden88]

That Nam sniper story is an myth (ie: BS) and this scene is not based on that. It is impossible for a bullet to travel through a sniper scope for a variety of reasons.

[@TBH-nu2so]

@@holden88 Ah, it seems we happen across another bot.

[@holden88]

@@TBH-nu2so Do you mean aimbot? Cause that's about as real as this scene.

[@bobbyricigliano2799]

There is a lot to take in here. One of the most compelling elements is that Caparzo seems more frustrated than fearful of death. The guy is big and strong, and just made it off the beach unscathed with slaughter all around him. The sniper’s bullet comes out of nowhere, and he is determined to push through it and not let it stop him. He doesn’t scream for a medic, he wants to pick up his rifle and fight. But he just can’t. He is telling his body to get up and go, but it isn’t responding anymore. This film never stops overwhelming the viewer, no matter how many times you’ve seen it.

[@tylerrodriguez9233]

I just noticed in the last cut over to Vin Diesel, the ground wasn’t as red because his heart stopped pumping/ he finished bleeding out

[@standartenfuhrerhanslanda343]

It’s all about family with that guy. Love him

[@los1148]

Vin Diesel should’ve done more dramatic roles like this instead of doing all action movies he really killed it in this role

[@robertlevy105]

He got mega-rich off of those other movies, though.

[@terryknutson3202]

"Let me not be ashamed. Let not my enemies triumph over me." How many men have prayed these words?

[@Mmpc22]

When family wasn't strong enough.

[@zerujstiglitz6137]

HAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHA THIS COMMETNS

[@RODOLFO.M.S]

🙏🏼🇧🇷👍 This is the best Vin Diesel movie. He spoke little and died quickly.

[@dntlss]

lol

[@sire5582]

blasphemy!

[@thomasohare2881]

I will never get over how candy ass 'Shakespeare in love ' won best picture over this great , epic movie

[@barberiusz6119]

It's nice how the snipers expressions showed that he's not a monster, just a soldier on opposite side of conflict

[@j.a.3138]

if he was a Taliban sniper, he woulda shot him 5 times in the head

[@Seanryan2001]

Watched this film at the cinema when it was released and i was lost for words when i walked out of there. The only War film that really defines what war is.

[@WullyBeeUK]

This film was a masterpiece.

[@Paracosm]

Did you know that In saving private Ryan (1998) vin diesel tries to save a little girl saying “she reminds me of my niece” this is a reference to the most important thing of all, family

[@Celestialspirit1]

Jackson was such a great character, Had alot of instinct for being apparently young.

[@KudaFamily]

German Sniper: You almost had me? You never had your letter…

[@usmh]

Some really great acting when he gets shot and falls. From the security camera footage I've seen where people get shot, it looks very much like that. That wobbling loss of control of your body is difficult to emulate, but he nailed it.

[@clista4]

One of the Greatest movies ever made

[@Surfer041]

These are our grandfathers, great grandfathers, and great great fathers.