SBFC229 - BBCTB DLC Problem

[@N00BSYBORG]

There's no reason half the roster has to be DLC when almost all the characters were already made. The roster is the entire appeal of a crossover game. This ruins what could've been a fun game.

[@GoldLight73]

The only ones who wouldn't have been pre-made are the RWBY characters, and even then the four main girls should already be included.

[@N00BSYBORG]

Gold Wade Main characters from RWBY are missing. Main party members from P4 are missing. No P3 characters. No villains besides Hazama. It's a real shitty base roster.

[@GoldLight73]

Would have also been cool if they threw in a Phantom Thief or two, unlikely as it is.

[@TheMaestroMizerous]

Azazel is kind of a villain, but yeah no Cinder or Adachi makes me sad.

[@N00BSYBORG]

Gold Wade I think everybody's hope for BBCTB was to see at least one Phantom Thief there to hint at a P5A. With how hot P5 is right now and the success of P4A it'd be a huge missed opportunity. That could still happen since there's a stand-alone DLC character at the very end who could be Joker but it looks unlikely now. It's probably the last RWBY girl since Blake is the only DLC character to not come in a 3 pack. Which means get ready to wait who-knows-how-long to play as one of your favorite girls RWBY fans.

[@Mekasoundwave]

They declined to mention how this game is launching with only two completely new characters and how RWBY (despite being one of the selling points of the game) doesn't even have all it's main characters in at launch.

[@LightningZerker]

How to kill a game in one fell swoop.

[@malikoniousjoe]

LightningZerker And then they went EVEN FURTHER BEYOND by stripping all the characters of their personal mechanics and home game playstyles. They murdered it and threw the body down a vaguely steep and jagged cliff

[@AntanovOCEFGC]

Speaking from the future, the game somehow pulled through with a solid fanbase, numbers, gameplay and competitions. Don't know how, but I guess us BlazBlue fans found more to enjoy than we are willing to admit. So, yeah, It lived.

[@theguyonaplane1361]

R.I.P Super Best Friends

[@despadas]

yeah, go team RW!

[@malikoniousjoe]

Daniel García RW$$

[@Urrnge]

Goddamn dude. I was really looking forward to this game, but half the game as DLC is fucking ridiculous. Even worse since they are re-using most of the sprites. What were they on when they thought, "Yeah, this seems like a good idea."

[@blaacksugar7714]

Especially when MUGEN exists to put already made sprites against one another

[@TheMaestroMizerous]

RWBY looks so small in that still frame quite fitting for that roster's treatment.

[@jamg25]

That is what it meant to evoke.

[@DTKloves8]

To be fair they're guest characters, I would never really expect RWBY to get the same treatment as the rest. I'm just glad Weiss is a launch character.

[@TheMaestroMizerous]

They're not guest characters. A guest is one rep from a series, and they made it clear RWBY is one fourth of this crossover.

[@violetshadowstone5250]

Woolie stated that the thumbnail was made based on their collective knowledge/interest. The namesake is blaze blue and they don't give a hoot about rwby.

[@lolrus5555]

@@violetshadowstone5250 I don't know why, but I find this very funny.

[@WFoong98]

The worst part though is character that you want may not in be in that 20 pack. Into the Kusoge bin it goes.

[@MukuonChannel]

While I'm glad that RWBY is getting a fighting game treatment by ArcSys, I would prefer that they have their own title and not this cash-grab crossover.

[@malikoniousjoe]

Some Yakuza Dad With a Beard Initially I would've disagreed as the crossover sounded fun. I enjoy BB, I fuckin love Persona Arena, and RWBY could make for a great fighting game. With this though, they aren't giving any full casts, and they should've just made a separate RWBY game and changed this to BB vs GG. What a fucking shitshow

[@MukuonChannel]

Malikonious Joe I would kill for a RWBY fighting game in the veins of GGXrd/DBFZ

[@SorakuFett]

I'm not even a RWBY fan and the fact that two of the TITLE FUCKING CHARACTERS are DLC pisses me off. That's like if Vegeta was a DLC in Dragon Ball FighterZ.

[@Cruddyhorse]

There are people who defend this, just thought I'd point that out.

[@Patchnose]

Cruddy horse As someone who thought that previous Arcsys dlc practices like expensive but deep characters and multiple editions is perfectly fine, this is ludicrous.

[@AkiRa22084]

Personally, I was angry when Makoto, Valk, Plat first came out as DLC, but now I became too rich to care. I would even buy that 150 euro Melty Blood that only came with limited edition Carnival Phantasm.

[@ScorchedEarth97]

I'm not sure if we're getting another Extend. We've gone about 2 years now with CF.

[@AzureKing963]

They aren't releasing a Extend for CF for a while, because of how much CPEX pissed people off. I don't think they realize we were pissed because they announced CF two weeks after its release.

[@TrixTrix228]

wtf? they announced an upcoming game after they just released an updated version?

[@russiachan2]

Yo man, are you still making these? I’ve never found the time to listen to the podcasts all the way, but always looked forward to your videos.

[@goaway0001]

Arc Sys, ya breaking my heart

[@lolrus5555]

The sad part is, despite this bullshit, everyone's still gonna eat this game up.

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

can you upload the guy cihi interview now that theyre gone?

[@rodney2x48]

A game with RWBY where half of the fucking main roster of the series is dlc isn’t really worth it for me. Fuck, the fact there’s barely any RWBY or Persona characters isn’t worth it. There’s no character balance. Like what the fuck, ArkSys?

[@AkiRa22084]

They have to make RWBY characters from scratch so it's dumb to expect anything else.

[@rodney2x48]

It's dumb to expect them to put the main fucking characters from one franchise to be IN the base game? Really? Even if they have to make the characters from scratch, you still end up having to pay extra for 2 of the 4 main fucking characters. That's my point. I get that the game won't be like $60 bucks at launch, but the fact that 2 of the main characters of RWBY are not in the base game is disheartening for most fans.

[@AkiRa22084]

It takes about 6 months to make a full character from scratch, and RWBY is just a guest franchise.

[@ScorchedEarth97]

God, this is such a bummer. I was really looking forward to it.

[@magnumbadguy9354]

I'm uninterested in this game now

[@justwungo]

So Arc Sys have officially become the new Capcom now?

[@crazygamer4260]

WungoBongoVA Tom Now that's just over reacting

[@TheZkiller]

Ok if the game is 40 and character pack is 20 for all characters I'm good then

[@jor4114]

The Z killer I'd rather pay 50 bucks up front for a complete game, thank you very much.

[@Knucklebreaking]

JoJones Honestly if they have some kind of deluxe edition it'll probably be the same price as a full game. Granted that's if they're smart.

[@jor4114]

zann williams Well, they were smart enough to pull this shit out in the first place, and then expect people to be okay with it. So don't get whatever hopes you still have left for this up.

[@lancetlo]

Thats what it is

[@tokutoshi_chan]

I already have the first dlc pack as a free code,and I entered it. but I'm gonna buy all-in-one pack(DLC Pack 1~6), will there be a problem if I bought the all-in-one pack and download it ??

[@taylortierney6542]

They need the money to keep up with the _incredible_ _quality_ of Rooster Teeth's animation team ;)

[@cameronmills3599]

Craig Tierney and that FANTASTIC voice work

[@malikoniousjoe]

Craig Tierney DAMN that was a gut punch if I've ever seen one haha

[@NARATO0]

Can you do the kingdom hearts discussion for 233 ?

[@DALKurumiTokisaki]

The Rwby side got screwed in roster Jesus

[@malikoniousjoe]

DALKurumiTokisaki Blazblue Cross Tag Battle, featuring some other losers I guess

[@ZyroShadowPony]

Woolie:"i just had a conversation with a blazblue player that wants another one" Me: "thats at least half of the fanbase after central fiction"

[@Dasaltwarrior]

CreepyPastaFollower What exactly is wrong with CF?

[@ZyroShadowPony]

Thomas Rozhon no i ment fans wanted another game after CF because of the ending. Some didn't like ragna's fate

[@Dasaltwarrior]

CreepyPastaFollower Ah right, I remember hearing he died.

[@ZyroShadowPony]

Thomas Rozhon he didn't die exactly. Basically removed everyone's memory of him so he didn't exist and is in a god realm. I dont remember exactly but i know no one knows about him except rachel having slight vague memories about him

[@malikoniousjoe]

In all fairness Central Fiction added absoultey nothing in terms of gameplay aside from a few characters. May as well have been Chrono Phantasma Extend Extend

[@vincenttorrijos9680]

Oh, so thats why nobody talked about CTB except for how busted Susanoo was in theory

[@TheMellownater]

And just like that I despise this game

[@milesedgeworth132]

If they cut it to 40 bucks with each character being a buck at most I might let them off the hook.

[@shadowmaksim]

I've already posted this elsewhere earlier today but I'll repost it here as well. ------------------------------------------- Really, I'm more hung up on just how baffling of a decision this feels. Like ASW are just making a joke and are pulling our legs. Announcing so much of the cast being DLC, especially when the game is still 4 1/2 months away from releasing, is just baffling. Technically, it's more as the final members of the base roster were revealed like a month prior to this DLC reveal. It's been somewhat of a joke that the only reason this game even exists is because it's using mostly reused assets, "Marvel vs Capcom" style. But now with this happening, it makes me wonder what the budget for the game even was for them to resort to this extreme. If it wasn't just outright greed that is. I get that developing characters for fighting games, hi-res sprites especially, isn't remotely cheap. While I'm no expert, I've seen the "Skullgirls" character development breakdown and it really shows how much goes into just making a single sprite-based character. It's one of the reasons I'm somewhat okay with the $8 "Blazblue" DLC characters, simply cause there's so much that goes into them. But as stated by basically everyone, most of what's in the game consists of reused assets. I mean sure, there's plenty of new things getting added (new music and remixes, unique character interactions, new stages, the "RWBY" cast are definitely brand new, mechanic development, etc.) and stuff getting adjusted (sprites for "UNIEL" characters in particular had to be reworked, sprite properties and attacks, etc.), all things that eat up lots of resources, but it'd still be far less than what something completely being developed from scratch would have been. At this point, it really depends on the pricing for everything. For all intents and purposes, people are kind of jumping to conclusions for the most part. Could not be anywhere near as bad as people think it's going to be. Going by the Japanese prices, the base game already seems like it's going to be at a reduced price so that's one thing. Now it's just up to the pricing for the DLC characters, free or otherwise. That said, this still was a terrible decision to make. Especially given how quiet all parties involved have been so far since the reveal. That silence certainly isn't helping. Even ignoring the prices, the base roster itself just feels incomplete. "RWBY" only has half (2) of the characters that make up its namesake included. Both "P4A" and "UNIEL" are shortchanged by only having 4 characters each, which isn't even remotely close to covering the crucial characters. And "Blazblue" stands at the top by taking up half the roster (10 characters) and some of them seem like odd inclusions at that, like Tager who last I checked is neither really plot-important nor all that popular. Heck, of the entire roster, there are only two villain characters, an archetype that tend to be rather popular in general, and both are from "Blazblue". For a crossover game, this is just laughable. There are various speculations on why this decision was made going around. Most frequent I've seen being that they're trying to release the game early for some event like EVO Japan. But regardless of why or how bad it actually will end up being, the reality is that this really does sour the overall experience. Being niche, most people really don't care about the game, like the SBF here, but those that did were ridiculously excited. Even though I had some issues with some of the mechanics shown so far (always dashing, autocombos, etc), I still was somewhat looking forward to it. But now, I haven't seen so much excitement for a game just vanish like this within minutes in a long time, if ever.

[@ReneandKnuckles]

I'll never spend a single cent on them again.

[@Sapheiorus]

That moment Woolie may be interested in the character that is made to represent him in those RWBY x SBFC videos... too bad the game does not merit purchase.

[@balrogdahomie]

“RWBY is in the game!” Wait, scratch that, RW is in the game. We’re leaving half the title of the series out.

[@ultimatehamsandwich734]

WC3 The Frozen Throne had that expansion pack feels as well

[@thejunkmanlives]

can i earn the characters by playing? no? then its not like sf5.

[@balrogdahomie]

Any form of day one DLC is bullshit. DLC should add to a completed game, not be the “back half” you need to pay again for.

[@Mr.2Dirty]

There are so many things that could’ve been right with this game, and for ArcSys to this horse shit and put half the roster behind a freakin DLC paywall is completely Asinine. Add on that, some of the main characters from the four series that are included possibly aren’t even in the game, let alone the Base roster, makes me so so sad, like with RWBY, which is its first outing in a fighting game format, has so much potential, yet only two of the main four are base game playable (might be wrong), whereas we might not even have potential great characters like Team JNPR, Qrow, Cinder, or Adam, not to mention possible fan favorites from BB, Persona, and Under Night: In-Birth, it just.... it just makes me lose hope for this game yo, but, imma give it the benefit of the doubt, and see if it will shape up. Cause ArcSys has a good Track Record with Fighting Games. Don’t let me down ArcSys.

[@trevorlanclos6566]

My point of contention is not so much that there is DLC (I figure form the announcement that there would be), but the fact that the base roster of the game is so unappealing that is makes the DLC ones look so by extension.

[@WilliamAmbervein]

I want the full game and can't wait for a gold edition.

[@daysand123]

The biggest problem is that RWBY is a featured title and then half of the main cast including the fucking best girl and most obvious fighting game character Yang Xiao Long is being withheld from the main game. That just makes it Blazblue introducing RW. Honestly the only way this can get dumber is if a character as bad as fucking Oscar or fucking nothings backed by pure fan hype like Nora, Ren, and Sun were added as main game content before the second half of RWBY. For fucks sake!

[@daysand123]

Black Hawk Omega because I don't like a character that can be as comically strong as the writers want whenever they think it's necessary yet choose to get completely no sold on other occasions where they're required to lose. That and yeah. They're nothings. Being in the series a few seasons doesn't mean you aren't a nothing or useless. Pretty sure you're the one freaking out here. You wanna hear me freak out just look at how botched Volume 5 has become. They doubled down on the bads of V4 and now there is so much stupidity and wasted potential with the Raven VS Cinder fight being the major highlight fight of the season.

[@daysand123]

Black Hawk Omega you clearly don't know what character development is or good writing. No character in that scene believably struggled. Actually Nora pulled another I am the fucking strong and suddenly launches Hazel. Yang gets screwed out of the first actual potential fight since Volume 3 to show off her character and they sacrifice a 2 v 1 with meaning for a potential 2 v 2 with somewhat of a meaning just to have that basically amount to nothing. Adam becomes a total bitch to the most obvious attack he could see coming which just further makes everything in Volume 3 that wasnt Pyrrha or Beacon feel like an insult that was just done for at the time drama rather than something to build on. Back to Nora. She's bullshit. She can knock am entire team out of an arena on her own but best Faunus girl Tyrian blocks a semblance charged attack and makes her eat shit. She can launch Yang to terminal velocity yet she lacks the strength to beat a Paladin and gets bitch slapped Volume 5 is a fuckload of wasted potential. Which is sad considering the first 4 episodes start put pretty strong. You thought we'd get a Yang recovery arc after that bullshit excuse in Volume 4 of recovering at home being boring (looks to Weiss and smells the garbage of lies.) But no. They don't. They have Yang start out on a seemingly big inner journey but as soon as everyone is back together it's not only all good but she's showing off the arm and laughing about launching it off in the beach episode. Make no mistake. That's the beach episode. The most unsettling thing she could be shown doing is done. The worst part is that the entire team is getting back together by the volumes end rather than saving that for another volume so characters can develop more where they were forgotten about or thrown put of existence previously. But they don't. Oscar is a bitch boy with near Gary Stu abilities and no real reasoning, Yang gets to be in twenty five percent of the screen as long as someone else is around and it usually involves her being borderline t posed while made into the biggest joke like the next Ren while Nora takes over the role of Yang being the one that knows how to fight and being the strength support while still being Nora. The list goes on and it don't stop coming and at this rate I'm expecting an even longer reply bitching me out cause how dare I criticize a show I have really liked for shitting the bed so hard where Volume 3 left off when going into Volume 4 and how hard Volume 5 doubled down on its mistakes rather than work on fixing them. That's the majority of the fan base for ya. They forgive everything rather than point out the flaws where they exist and it ends up being overlooked and even encouraged for future iterations so the issues keep building. Really they should look into the writers behind Chibi like the one guy from Disney writing scripts for forward volumes cause it's pretty sad when the parody series has better writing and ironically more effort put into it's animation than the current season that has the most budget so far.

[@JoeCoolMaveric]

ArcSys should learn something from this: sometimes honesty is NOT the best policy. I mean, it’s not like we haven’t seen this kind of shit before in video games. In general. It all about perspective.

[@lananielsen9465]

5:00 WHERE"S MY GUN.

[@dianatheascian8701]

Welp! Looks like I'm not getting this game! Shame to!But seriously though you could have at least put all of team RWBY in the main game and I would have been happy and lets not start with all the other characters that may or may not get in. In any case let's see who don't make it in and then we can be even more disappointed...(sigh)...

[@malikoniousjoe]

Certus Indago Platinum the Garbage made it in over Aigis, Akihiko, Mitsuru, Labrys, Adachi, and Sho. Think about that...

[@Kickback2108]

Well, frankly. I'm just excited to play another game with the RWBY cast. That's all I care about here.

[@TheGazingEye]

can you clip the 229 podcast topic of "Who got there shoes smoked harder" where they talk about jesus and satan fighting over job's soul? :D

[@ATBcadere]

So this game costs 50 trudeau dollars plus what ever the dlc will cost

[@chrislee5268]

I'm all for putting the garbage RWBY characters behind a paywall so I don't have to see too many of them.

[@mikestrong3512]

Akihiko and Mitsuru.. should be in the base game, and give the old charecters new moves if you're going to charge btw.

[@NeutralL12]

Rwby only fighter when

[@akithelostfly4626]

Smh Its a fucking shame how fighting games nowadays just get partially made, and then you have to pay like 75% for the rest in dlc. Like why can't companies just fucking complete a game and be done with it. Namco seems to be the only company that's doing it right imo. Like its the most dirtiest shit ever, and every time I hear ppl say "Ehhhhh..well as long as it has the characters "I" play, I'll buy it." I wanna pull my damn teeth out..

[@dragonknight1560]

It shocks me Matt has no idea what RWBY is no less Yang... YANG.

[@violetshadowstone5250]

Jason Cruz It doesn't honestly, alot of people don't know what rwby is. And if they did know it? It go under the David cage banner cause it's a badly written series and the writers ate cocky as hell. They'd tear it to shreds.

[@kellyd1910]

The game is wonderful,....

[@DTKloves8]

RIP the only fighting game I was looking forward too this year.

[@kenronald6786]

Glorious Taiga but fighterz tho

[@Gojiro7]

ive played this game now that is practicly free (you still gotta pay out the ass for all the DLC) and at the end of it all, it would have just been cooler to get a RWBY fighting game instead of the most "nobody asked for this" crossover since Sub Zero fought Batman

[@zeterzero4356]

Honestly I'm more excited for the weird stuff than DBFZ. Just am. DBFZ looks great but I'm just not interested in playing it for some reason. Blaz. Yeah, I wanna play with all my fun animu characters in a high speed tag fighter. Does that mean this dlc thing is good? NO. Does the price help? A little, but splitting up the RWBY girls is just insane to me. Now if there are ten characters from each series by the end of this than I'll be fine. But I don't want some lopsided roster that favors one group of characters over the others. If I might quote that virtouso of wordplay himself, Jontron: "I aaaaiiiin't havin' that shit!"

[@DrErikNefarious]

If Guilty Gear isn't a part of the crossover, I will be surprised

[@WFoong98]

It is not, it got shafted by that western thingy.

[@alexkennard2422]

For those who don't like this DLC bullshit, just wait a year, maybe two. I can guarantee you that they'll release a GOTY edition that will have all of the characters in the game.

[@meowmeow7t]

The problem is if the game was 60$ and had all 40 characters no one would care.

[@triburst]

I'm a simple man, announce Qrow and Yang and you'll get my money.

[@xtremegamer7198]

Dude. I would totally buy this game and DLC if Qrow was in it. I know I would be an idiot for buying it for that, but god damn it I am a total fool!

[@BlargleWargle]

Yeah after the excellence of FighterZ I was almost ready to start easing up on my dislike of ArcSys but NOT AFTER THIS GARBAGE. Not too long ago they even talked about how they needed their games this year to do exceptionally well because they'd managed their money poorly and I hope that means they start suffering for their scummy moneygrubbing.

[@stryflyer]

This is an example of them shitting something out. This won't sell regardless if the long time faithful get pissed from this. As far as Pat's Crazy Talk who has friends that play BB. The timing of release was so bad because of localization. If you didn't have to wait 6-8 months from Japan release to stateside release you'd think they were just making a new game for reasons. No Kagura anyway so Who cares.

[@AzureKing963]

stryflyer Hakumen and Bang are missing too, which is infuriating since they are marketing the game to the west apparently.

[@malikoniousjoe]

No Akihiko, Junpei, Labrys, Aigis, Yukari, Ken and Koromaru, or Mitsuru. Why the fuck would I want this?

[@crazygamer4260]

3 things 1 as of today the rest of team RWBY are free but the others will still be dlc sucks but I'll take what I can get 2 the game will be 40 bucks at launch so theres a positive And 3 why havent you made another on of these highlights in a while?

[@Dragonage2ftw]

This podcast topic aged like shit.

[@ArsonRu]

This hurts my heart.

[@ShadowWolfRising]

RvB is because it's Halo Machinima. You know.......Xbox Series. And this isn't on Xbox. Also get these guys to watch RWBY already.

[@crazygamer4260]

ShadowWolfRising they watched episode one and said thats all I need to see

[@ShadowWolfRising]

Episode one is not a great representation of the series.

[@StellaStarfall]

ShadowWolfRising Agreed. I’d even go so far as to say it’s a HORRIBLE representation of the series.

[@otorinthuzoth8624]

RWBY was what made me want to avoid the game in the first place. Now I'm REALLY not touching it.

[@AkiRa22084]

I'm getting a hunch that you don't know about Guilty Gear or Melty Blood franchises, since you seem clueless about certain things...

[@lilsoonerfaninmo]

'ASW has the most greed' PFFFFFFT!!!!

[@Chagogo]

At this point I’m just gonna sit on my hands and play DBFZ with my feet until the Extend version of Crosstag comes out. Because we all know it’s coming, no idea when but it is.

[@CrimsonDragon451]

I mean, half the roster being behind a paywall aside; I can't help but laugh that the worst girl of RWBY is behind said paywall.

[@fernandosau1498]

Blake or Yang?

[@CrimsonDragon451]

Fernando Sau Blake, def Blake. Love Yang, shame she's also behind a paywall.

[@jaellyons4625]

Shame that 2 of the main characters are behind a paywall

[@almac5446]

So pretty much this is Capcom fighting evolution system artworks characters and Ruby

[@TERPormf]

Arc Sys dropping the ball again with BlazBlue? Man you'd think that after the mess with CF and the lack of the English voice cast they'd try to step up their game a bit, this is beyond what they did with CF. At this point I just want BlazBlue to get laid to rest already so they can focus on stuff like FighterZ and Guilty Gear and my faith in ArcSys has slowly faded away. Time to boycott their stuff.

[@malikoniousjoe]

AzureBeats Follow Team RED. They do the things worth paying for at Arcsys. Team Blue apparently wants to see how quickly they can kill off their own community.

[@Sonicfalcon16]

The red vs blue character have more pull than rwby characters. When you think roosterteeth you think rvb

[@helicopteroctopus6543]

Sonicfalcon16 Well, RWBY characters look and fight more like fighting game characters compared to RvB so that might be it? Anyway, RWBY's pretty popular in Japan right now, while RvB's appeal there is questionable.

[@Sonicfalcon16]

Thats fair for Japan. I can imagine RvB not being a slam dunk there. They get a freebie

[@BlindFire77]

Only RWBY got an all-star Seiyuu cast.

[@ShadowWolfRising]

Not to mention at the end of the day RvB is Halo Machinama. As in Xbox. Which this game isn't.

[@zeda12123]

Honestly? not anymore. I don't know a single person who still watches rvb, yet rwby is an international hit with light novels, merch, a shitty game, they got licensed by warner japan, they have an official manga adaption, there was a rwby cafe at one point. Ultimately rwby has completely left rvb in the dust, and this iscoming from someone who hates rwby and used to be a major rvb fan.

[@VishisTV]

If you really think about it. How many characters did we expect this game to have in the first place? It blows my mind that people didnt care much about sfv having 16 characters and 45$ later we have less than 40 characters. Also the sprites are being redone, character properties are being changed to something unfamiliar. Arc has 200 employees or so and they are making like 3 games at the time. Chronophantasma wasnt marketed as being the last bb. It was suppose to be the only vers pat. They made another because of the console gen shift Furthermore id like to add that if this game is 40$ and the season pass is like 20 or 30. you guys sound like cheap bozos . People doubted the roster was gonna be even 32 and we got 40 characters on the way.

[@Walt_Xander94]

VishisTV At least in SFV, future characters are *free.* They're unlockable with in-game currency, while its actually option for once, to pay. Plus, Capcom actually asked fans if they wanted the game out early for tournaments, and warned of the consquences. So, unlike all these other fighters that start with a 20+ roster in this day and age, SFV's starting roster was fine. That being said, the only exceptions, are fighters with *legit* DLC, which is rare, and the only ones that have it, are MvC Infinite, and DB FighterZ. Anyway, the in-game currency is easy to earn, and those that bought SFV, odds are, only unlocked the characters they were interested in. Now if you didnt buy the original because of the Arcade Edition, you're not forced to buy that, its improvements will be updates in the original. But if you want all the Season 1 and 2 characters unlocked, then getting the Arcade Edition is a good move. Its not like all these "Complete" Editions that are just the *real* full versions of games that shouldve came out to begin with. Onto BlazBlue CrossTag's roster. The roster in previous BlazBlue games, kept increasing. BlazBlue Central Fiction had a roster of 28. Yet this game goes down to 20. The roster couldve been 40(Idk why they didnt just charge $60 for the game, with the 40 roster intact) but Arc System straight up pulled an old Capcom. They pulled a SF X TK, they cut half of the roster, and locked it behind a paywall. Look at the RWBY characters alone. Blake is DLC, yet Ruby and Weiss are on the disk. They know what they're doing, they know blind loyal RWBY fans will pay for Blake, and Yang, and whoever else from RWBY makes the cut(I certainly see Pyrrah making the cut). Arc Systems also pulled a Tekken 7, having an inexcusable small roster, when the previous installment's roster was far bigger. I cant believe Arc Systems had the balls to pull this crap, after EA got in trouble their greedy shit. Good thing they're not publishing Fighter Z, or else that game wouldve suffered the same fate(they wouldve had SSJB Goku and Vegeta be pre-order only). People expected a better roster than previous titles. But the greedy bullshit has affected BlazBlue as well. So, people that wanted it before, arent interesed now, and they're better off waiting for the "Complete" Edition, and buying it used.

[@VishisTV]

TheGameKeeper94 after playing for like 1000 hours? Nobody even likes sfv to play survival lmao

[@VishisTV]

TheGameKeeper94 you realize that people asked for a smaller roster in ttt2 because people said there were too many characters right? You dont know what youre talking about

[@VishisTV]

TheGameKeeper94 the game has a smaller roster than what previous game there is no previous bbtag

[@VishisTV]

TheGameKeeper94 the game is discounted and we dont even know what the dlc price is. Jeez stop jumping the gun because you dont want to pay for a game goddamn injustice and sf are doing the same shit. Not to mention ki

[@Gama1201]

I didn't buy GG because of how shitty the DLC was handled in BB ArcSys is actually worse than Capcom when it comes to DLC. I'm hoping than Namco keeps them from being too shit with the DLC for DBF

[@patrickjohnson1649]

Don't Care Gonna buy the SHIT outta all of It. Looks super fun.

[@TERPormf]

Patrick Johnson Disssssgusting.

[@patrickjohnson1649]

Don't Care.

[@jaymoneyyy110]

Central Fictions the perfect arksys game so I dont know why anyone would by this X Tekken rip off

[@crazygamer4260]

Helel Alexander I didn't know crossover games were rip offs, someone tell MVC

[@BlindFire77]

Why play Blazblue when Xrd exists, my dude?

[@TERPormf]

Tbh Central Fiction was the tipping point for ArcSys and BlazBlue. First the removal of the English voice cast and now this? Pathetic.

[@BlindFire77]

AzureBeats getting dubbing crews and not severely post-poning western releases for the competitive scene is a completely different issue, man. VAs have schedules and getting the entire cast to reprise their roles is asking a lot without delaying and punishing the western competitive scene in the process. Same issue happened with GGXrd and it's Story Mode.

[@AntanovOCEFGC]

Bro... Ragna... and Ruby... working together, maybe you don't understand and that ok, but that shit makes me drool.