Scale Beauty With a Few Small Issues - FMS Cessna 182 Skylane 1500mm

[@TwoBrosRC]

Want to know more about unboxing and basic setup? Check out Brian Phillips: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHjNm6d4eL6jq7c Want to see more of what this plane can do? Check out Model AV8R: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y57TZneEm6ynnKc

[@ZapTeam]

Why have you never reviewed the timber x?

[@uromutt]

I've watched a lot of videos on this plane and they all are great, but yours really made the 182 shine, well done! I wasn't planning on buying the 182, but after watching you fly it, I think I need to make room for another plane! This is why we all come to your channel. thank you for what you do for our hobby!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Happy to help! Feel free to ask if you've got any questions - and if you are planning to pick it up, using one of our affiliate links and/or codes is a huge help and makes it easier to demo other airplanes that aren't sent to the channel.

[@uromutt]

@@TwoBrosRC you mentioned throws being limited, can they be modified? I'm assuming it's similar to the turbo timber Evo ailerons, how they're all hidden and limited by their compartments. I like a good roll rate 😜 Also it looks like it's great on water, summer flyin for me is strickly water so I'm looking for a good water fleet.

[@TwoBrosRC]

By "limited", we meant that the ailerons only have so much travel they're capable of. You could get more throw out of it by adjusting linkages, but there's only so far they can move unless you rehinge them.

[@uromutt]

@@TwoBrosRC was thinkin it may be worth rehinging to nylon pins like you mentioned, I don't trust foam hinges much. I've had too many fail on me. Thank you again for the video and fast response, you are very appreciated.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

@ 12:45 - Amen - Good call Jon - 1000000% agree! Nice video too, btw!

[@danflom1271]

I can't get over how pretty this plane looks. Absolute stunner. Well done FMS.

[@TwoBrosRC]

At this price point, absolutely. Kinda crazy to think about when you realize just how good it is for how inexpensive it is!

[@HciContractor]

Nice flying Jon. I really like the scoring system and the thoughts you put into it. You've got a solid channel and I've learned a lot watching your 3D vids. Thanks !

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I really like the red too - looks great!

[@forit3061]

9:20 ! woah, you are so good on the sticks Jon, awesome flying as always! :)

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Nice Jon. I love the scale GA planes. Love watching you go ""Scale? Nope!" Lol.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Might as well stand out a little lol

[@MWall711]

Always find your videos entertaining and appreciate the objective grading system you've created.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Happy to help, thanks so much!

[@hmz6535]

What FMS has to come out with next; A cessna 337 Skymaster!

[@rgsvidz]

I have (well, had 😔) the previous version of this plane, which I really love(d) as a very nice looking scale flyer - I too am partial to the Cessna 17x/18x family because of flying with my dad in a 172. Unfortunately, the first gen plane suffers from a fatal flaw - the wing spar is not nearly long enough and even moderate g-forces can overload the wings. That happened to me today coming out of a gentle loop - the left wing just snapped off just outboard of the spar. It appears that this new version resolves several of the design issues with original plane - quick connect wings, snap-on antennas, top-loading battery, factory 4S capability and a stronger airframe overall. But I'd say FMS fell short on the servos and the wheels. I put a 15g metal-geared servo for the rudder/nosegear on the original plane, along with Du-Bro low-bounce wheels (huge improvement!) and that is what I'd want to do on this version, too. Thanks for the honest and informative review! Great demo flights, too - I really enjoyed seeing what this plane is capable of. It's clearly got a better flight envelope than the old plane and while I'd still want it mainly as a scale flyer, it's nice that you can be more adventurous with it if you want to. Have you flown an E-Flite Valiant 1.3 before? I'd love to know how this plane compares. I love the Valiant, but if I can get the same type of performance from this plane then perhaps I can have my cake and eat it too - a no-drama scale flyer that can also be a fun aerobatic plane if you feel so inclined.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Plastic servos are junk - pretty sure we knocked it for that here. If not, newer reviews that account for avonics & lighting certainly do, and plastic servos are always a point off the score. The wheels sound like ass on pavement. That is fortunately something you can fix by running E-flite Viper 70mm wheels via this link: alnk.to/8PEaQjt We've never flown the Valiant, but might be something to pick up at some point!

[@rgsvidz]

@@TwoBrosRC Yes, your review was spot on and I already know ahead of time what mods I need to do if I buy this plane... thanks! Definitely check out the Valiant if you can, it's a sweet plane... just not the looker that the Cessnas are. It's also not a 4S plane.

[@horvatharon2083]

Hi Jon, quick correction here. 840KV in the motor specs doesn't stand for kilovolts, it refers to the rpm the motor will spin at when one volt is applied. ( rpm/volt)

[@TwoBrosRC]

Spoke too fast and didn't consider the implications, sorry!

[@JohnVHRC]

I love mine, wrung it out again yesterday, I need to get the floats!

[@TwoBrosRC]

You should!

[@dominicbonadies6021]

Hey Jon I found another issue with this airplane. The housing connectors for the wing supports both broke away from the fuse on my 7th flight and my wings were flexing terribly and I thought the wings were going to fold up before I could land it!!! I used foam tack to glue them back in place. Hopefully they won't pull out again. Oh by the way I was not flying aggressively like you were on this video.

[@TwoBrosRC]

That's unfortunate, probably a QA issue with your specific airframe. Our strut mounting points never came loose, but it's always a possibility if they weren't glued well from the factory.

[@robertchapman7773]

Hi Jon. You made the case for SMC for me on the big Bonnie. So I am in the process of changing out batteries to SMC. Quick question. What Charger do you use to get the 4.35 chge. Will I be able to accomplish that with my Spek smart chargers? Cheers Bob in Canada

[@TwoBrosRC]

If your charger supports LiHV, you'll have it as an option. Our Spektrum DC chargers support it.

[@airhammer6203]

A very well thought out review, Jon. AH...

[@Michael-s2p3p]

This review points to a major flaw in this plane. I thought it was me but after a few months it’s obvious online that many people have had repeated failure of the nose wheel assembly. It’s a flaw that FMS should fix but in all likelihood will not. I did the fix recommended to remove the sticky substance they placed in the front strut, got rid of the small wheels and replaced them with 2.5 inch for the front and 3.5 inch for the mains, moved the nose wheel servo forward a little and still the damned servo pops with the least amount of front nose wheel pressure on landing. I love how this plane flies but I seriously doubt I would buy it again without a nose wheel fix by FMS.

[@TwoBrosRC]

What specifically is failing about the strut itself? Join up on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord and share some photos or a video.

[@Michael-s2p3p]

@@TwoBrosRC The nose wheel servo pops out of place and you have to remove the battery plate to put it back in, easy but a total pain in the a$$. This happens with the slightest bump on landing and the fixes I noted above helps a little but the damn thing keeps popping. I’m going to change it into a permanent float plane and get rid of this stupid landing gear, just need water/ice/snow. Google “FMS 182 nose gear problems”, I’m one of many that have this problem. SteffenRC posted a KZbin video on one of the fixes I noted above and SlowFlyer85 posted a video about the nose wheel problem. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnLOqqdpq7N4j80, and m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmrFn52Xg6yKbqc&pp=ygURU3RlZmZlbnJjIGZtcyAxODI%3D.

[@SCRedneckRC1]

Great video Jon, I bought the blue one on release day and have yet to open the box. My DX6E bought the farm, and I refuse to pay an astronomical amount for another Spektrum so I replaced it with a Radiomaster TX16s MK II, once I’ve mastered the programming I guess I’ll get into the box.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Hope you enjoy the radio. Just be mindful that Spektrum is more expensive because you're supporting an American company that pays American wages and had to front the cost of all the R&D into the protocols it uses. RadioMaster can be more affordable precisely because it doesn't pay Americans, it's not an American company, and it never developed the Spektrum protocol.

[@SCRedneckRC1]

@@TwoBrosRC all my Spektrum products say made in China, so maybe Spektrum aka Horizon Hobby has an American storefront with Chinese manufacturing.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Horizon employees don't live in China, they're being paid American wages living here in the US.

[@SCRedneckRC1]

@@TwoBrosRC I’m aware of that, but they are basically sales people, all the holdings under the Horizon brand Spektrum, Axial, Proline etc… are Chinese manufacturers shipping drop shipping to the USA

[@winstonsmith7801]

We need criteria on grass ops and how easy it is to transport.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Grass isn't really our thing, and several people straight up insulted us the last time we covered transportability in the B-1B vid. Definitely something to consider though!

[@winstonsmith7801]

@@TwoBrosRC Fair enough. The club I fly at only has a grass strip so it constricts what type of rc aircraft I purchase , but thanks for an otherwise comprehensive look at this model.

[@RicJG7]

Agreed, I'm guessing the majority only have a grass available

[@TwoBrosRC]

It'll definitely do grass so long as it's manicured like a typical club, there's really no reason it wouldn't.

[@winstonsmith7801]

@@TwoBrosRC Nice , Thanks.The Red Livery looks really good too.

[@sendit_rc]

Not my style of plane but a good review! Almost to 100k man 👏

[@TwoBrosRC]

Close! Thanks 🧡

[@friendlyreptile9931]

I have a question about the nav and strobe light situation. You did replug the navs so they stopped flashing, can't you just switch the connection from the strobe to the nav and so the strobes should flash than? Sorry i'm not an english speaker, i hope this is understandable. Greetings

[@TwoBrosRC]

The lights are tied into a servo hidden in the wing. You'd have to run a wire direct to it which is super annoying and wouldn't work with the quick connect system in the wing.

[@friendlyreptile9931]

@@TwoBrosRC I understand. That is rly sad but i think maybe one could switch the LED's agianst flashing once. I think this should work with those where the programming is in the LED itself.

[@itzjoeylo4501]

I would like to see how the Banana Hobby version of the Cessna 182 is rated on your scale. It’s a lot cheaper at $159 or $169 PNP.

[@TwoBrosRC]

BH probably wouldn't even fulfill an order we've placed at this point. Probably ain't gonna happen, sorry

[@speedfix7]

yOu ArEnT flYinG iT sCAle!!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Good lol

[@HciContractor]

Scale is boring with maybe exception to war birds

[@osevenninefiver]

I am fairly certain if someone tried to pull those stunts in a real Cessna, it would explode*. Not only is the fuel in the wings, but the wings and frame weren't meant to handle that torque like that. lol

[@acepilot6555]

@@speedfix7 wdym that's totally scale

[@robw8703]

Jon, what's the length on those floats? They look awfully similar to the floats that came on the 1400mm red & white FMS Piper Cub.

[@TwoBrosRC]

They're basically the same floats

[@3DMOFO2020]

Looks a true ''Fun Scale'' undercover 3D plane Jon I look forward to seeing you do your special mods to this with that special battery try and hell why not add a 2 bladed 12x6 or 13x4 prop to it instead of the stock 3 bladed prop?? Fantastic job on the review Jon I 👍👍😎😎👍👍BTW I notice you had on the floor a Hobbyzone Aero Scout laying around I see that flight Ali did at Joe Nall made a you want to get one huh? LOL!!!😜😜😜😜😜😜🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TwoBrosRC]

Remember when you were pushing for Jon to do torque rolls real low? Now it's a reality, haha The AeroScout is a little upcoming project. You might be surprised at what we're planning to do with it.

[@3DMOFO2020]

@@TwoBrosRC FPV flight??

[@TwoBrosRC]

You'll see!

[@dominicbonadies6021]

F Y I Jon my wing supports pulled off of the fuse on the 7th flight and the wings were fluttering so bad I thought they were going to fold up. So I landed it safely and saw that there was barely any glue on them.

[@TwoBrosRC]

That's unfortunate. Seems like you might have gotten a bad one, but that should be a simple fix.

[@markwoodason7759]

Does anyone know what are the 2 short RJ leads coming from under the circuit board used for?

[@TwoBrosRC]

No idea.

[@Cyberdyne_research]

Will it do the “impossible turn”?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Probably.

[@redwineisfine]

Soon to be re-released by Highwing Hobby?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Uh, OK.

[@anthonyevans1605]

Are floats included or extra?

[@TwoBrosRC]

They're separate. Sorry, forgot to include the link. We're updating the description now.

[@Cakey831]

I know I’m late, but can anyone help me out with gains setting for this plane on spectrum.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Hop on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord and ask in the #tech-and-setup channel - you'll get way faster responses.

[@jasrepnik5896]

hello. I'm wondering what your job is because I always think you're a pilot or something like that, is that true or not?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Nah. Jon works in the video game industry.

[@jasrepnik5896]

@@TwoBrosRCnice

[@crashalexander7232]

NEEDLESS TO SAY .....IM SURE YOU ARE NOT A BIG MAYOR DALEY FAN......LOL SOME REAL GREASEBALL POLITICS OVER MEIGS FIELD.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Jon had the opportunity to visit what... remains of Meigs in 2021. While it's a beautiful park, it's not the airport he remembered growing up playing FS95. The control tower and terminal are both there still, though!

[@alfabeta22]

A really good and complete review!, congrats!. The model is really scale looking, not the floats struts, that's a pity. You raped it, rather than flew it!😂. You are lucky to have a partner/wife who supports you in this hobby not always loved by women. Greetings from the south part of Switzerland.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Float struts are almost never to scale in model aviation, it does indeed suck. Not a fan of it ourselves, but that's just how it is.