The SLOWEST RC Jet - E-flite Viper 64mm

[@tjtsnakepaintball]

Overall Score: 20/25 Landing Gear 4/5 Flight Time 4/5 Agility 5/5 Fit/Finish 3/5 Avionics & Lighting 5/5 4+4+5+3+5 I believe should total to 21/25, unless I missed something in the video.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Hmmm, you're right. Math was never Jon's strong suit lol Either way, still a great jet!

[@tjtsnakepaintball]

@@TwoBrosRC I agree! Looks like a blast to fly, thanks for everything you contribute to the RC Hobby with your channel, great reviews keep it up!

[@monchichis333]

You know what should be added to the category, weight. Is it a heavy or a light setup for the size

[@TwoBrosRC]

That's basically covered by "adequate thrust for most maneuvers". Weight varies between airframes and design intentions. It's also a very subjective thing - many people love light planes, others love heavy planes.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Jon what can I say...I agree with everything you said on this one. I don't say that often of anyone, but I've been saying this is the most impressive EDF to come out in a while. There are EDF's at the top of the pack in every size range, but the difference in the best and the second choice/choices is usually nominal. This one blows every other sport or sport scale EDF in the single motor 64mm range away by a good bit. Very impressive jet. We love it. Nice job bud!

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's not the fastest jet ever made, but what's super impressive about it is that it's so ridiculously slow. They really got this one right. Thanks Adam!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

@@TwoBrosRC What's interesting on that front is we got 97mph with it...which is faster than any other 4s 64mm we've tested. Obviously not as fast as 70's 80's and 90s, but for a 64mm, pretty quick.

[@daysdesigns]

Too bad it's a damn 64mm. Bummer.

[@jamesonclark5854]

@@daysdesigns I don't understand the complaint about it being a 64mm when a 70mm and 90mm already exist. 🤨 Just buy the size that fits your wants!

[@bobcole85]

Thanks

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thank YOU dude!

[@flipflopbob]

Thanks! How about a video that compares pros and cons of all of the Vipers?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thank YOU dude!

[@edhenry5422]

Hi Jon,Thanks for this review.. I currently have the 90 and although, following your directions , I can now fly and land b. it consistently without stalling and crashing, it is something that weighs on my mind when I fly it. I have been hoping, when I saw the weight of the 64 that this one would allow me more stress free flying and landing.

[@kiastingz9924]

Congrats on a new runway!! Cant wait to see what is to come!

[@lordjoechu]

Jon you talked me into it. Looks like a good winter jet while I put my planes away that draw more amps.

[@thetruth9747]

Another great review Jon. Everything about your videos is top notch. I appreciate your flying style, scoring system, opinons and recommendations for the initial setup. Enjoy your new field.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Cheers, thanks!

[@williamhoodtn]

Jon, Great review! Now I have to fine room to fit this into my fleet.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Do what Jon did and mount it to the wall when it's not being flown. A zip tie looped around the nose strut can be hung up on a picture hook.

[@MWall711]

Looks like a nice flying field!

[@MotoMarkDFW]

I struggled with landing the Habu 50 SS and have done quite well flying my Arrows F-86 64 mm. This Viper really interests me. I like the fact it will take a 3200 mAh battery, but not sure it would be worth it as flying with the 2200 seems great. My F-86 flies with 2200 4S. Great review...

[@ladyhawk7408]

been watching your channel for a while now. gonna miss the old airport.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Same. It had a charm to it.

[@thelic4171]

Can't wait for mine to get here! Excellent review Jon.

[@TwoBrosRC]

You won't be disappointed.

[@daysdesigns]

Oh snap, Jon 's fixing to have to share the field with others! Hopefully there's good seating for folks so they can observe those master classes you'll be putting on for them! LOL Looks to be a nice place.

[@lordjoechu]

Seems like an interesting flyer. It would be a hand launcher for me after a few flights with the. Sp far the flyfans L-39 is the sole 64mm single Edf that has retracts. It also works with small 6s setups and is around 200. The problem is freewing, fms, and eflight are just nicer birds. I still hope to see it happen and we be okay paying a little more.

[@natek.457]

New asphalt!! 😍

[@DonJoh-w5y]

Twin viper made me fall of my chair. 😂😂😂😂

[@m-e-m-e-y]

Love the channel! Saw that you were flying at rdrc, I fly at the closest other field pretty regularly (Raleigh aeromasters), I have also flew at rdrc before for an event and they guys there are a nice bunch, you’ll definitely like them. 👍

[@chandy4ever]

1:10 dudeeeeeee,!! IJust jumped off my seat but he did this

[@nirlachman007]

This jet is nothing special for me personally but I enjoyed this review for sure 😊 Thanks Jon!

[@fp-AvERY]

Correct me if im wrong but i think im looking at my first jet. I love my timberx and my 1.3m super cub. Im ready for a jet and this thing looks so locked in its not even funny. Thanks for the info, keep up the good work man

[@TwoBrosRC]

This is a jet you'd most likely have no issues with.

[@fp-AvERY]

Thank you ​@@TwoBrosRC

[@Acemedia574]

A woody Viper would be epic

[@danflom1271]

A 64 with rudder, flaps and lights. Eflite already makes the best 50mm. (BTW Jon its a shame you wont review the little Habu.) Looks like they can add best 64mm to the list.

[@TwoBrosRC]

50mm stuff really isn't our thing.

[@boardnski156]

That little Habu is really something else. It's a great little EDF for having fun. On 3S it's quite agile. On 4S it's a speed demon. Either way it'll take off from geotextile runways without gear. Having a rudder really helps line up things unlike practically every other 50mm.

[@legndgrape5188]

@@boardnski156have you ran 4s on the stock baby 50mm ss?

[@boardnski156]

@legndgrape5188 Yes, sure have. I use 4S 1300 mAh packs. That's good for about 2 minutes of booming and zooming. The throttle can't go above half on takeoff or the ESC cuts off. It's fine once in the air. Unlimited vertical, unlike on 3S. It's not as agile thanks to that extra weight. Pick the pack to suit the day. I fly mine on 3S 1500 or 4S 1300 depending on conditions and my mood.

[@joegideon6730]

Great review and always awesome footage it the planes in flight! I’m considering this jet and its brother the 70mm. Since you have flown both, would you recommend one over the other for a person that hasn’t flown a ducted fan in a few years? Thank you!

[@TwoBrosRC]

The 64mm would be significantly more forgiving for you to fly. You can work your way up to the 70mm pretty fast by flying it.

[@joegideon6730]

Thank you very much!!

[@nolanwaddill8472]

Comparison shopping 64mm sport jets, I’ve got my eye on either the FMS Futura 64mm or the Freewing Banshee 64mm, both can be had for $150-170 depending on vendor. Would you say the flying characteristics from the lighter wing loading of the Viper 64mm are worth the extra $80? At that point it feels like I might as well step up to a 70mm.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Consider the integrated receiver which costs more than $80 and you've got a pretty good deal. The FMS/FW jets are PNP and require a receiver.

[@nolanwaddill8472]

@ oh yea I’m currently flying on a cheapo FlySky transmitter 😂 forgot to mention that, so I always buy the PNP versions

[@fighterpilot714]

Lol this is exactly like E Flite took the FMS 64mm Futura but they made it look like a viper and perfected it

[@TwoBrosRC]

Pretty much. The Viper's wing load puts the Futura to shame. It's a much, much better flying jet.

[@aaronsnell5663]

Good video! Would this or a 64mm FMS Futura make a better first EDF?

[@TwoBrosRC]

This is much lighter on the wing and is much more friendly to beginners as a result.

[@BottomGunProductions]

Ia this good after a duet and Aeroscout?

[@TwoBrosRC]

You'd be able to give it a shot.

[@jasonzapata8274]

How many jets high alpha with the elevator maxed out?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Nose heavy delta jets will.

[@keitha.9788]

Please, please do a short test flight with the heavier 3200 mAh battery and compare handling (and flight time) with the 2200 mAh battery you used in this video....

[@TwoBrosRC]

Maybe next year!

[@BottomGunProductions]

Can you bind it to dxs??? If yes, how?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Probably, no idea how.

[@Krash_fpv]

They need to make a 64 w retracts already....super fun but i hate having gear down

[@TwoBrosRC]

Take 'em off. The wing load would make this jet fly worse. It's amazing having a super light EDF that can fly super slow.

[@OlliHeli]

Hi Jon, If you don´t mind I would like to see your review about the 64mm L39 EDF jet from FylFans. I feel, this jet in terms of price point, power and the available retracts could beat all other EDF jets in that class. Oliver

[@TwoBrosRC]

Never flew it; not really interested in it. If someone wants to send it to us, we'll definitely look into it, but it's not a jet we'd want to purchase.

[@PlaneAwesome747]

What’s with the new flying feild?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Watch the vid, it's explained lol

[@edhenry5422]

When you say " dump the flaps" you mean flaps down right? There are tose who would say dumping means getting rid of flaps, but I dont think thats the phrase right? Dumping the flaps always meant deploying them quickly to me. ..

[@TwoBrosRC]

"Dump the flaps" means drop them fully. It's a pretty standard term in full scale aviation.

[@Zoey_the_Rat]

Are EDFs just inherently woefully inefficient themselves, or are these scale jets just shit aerodynamically?

[@TwoBrosRC]

EDFs in general are inefficient.

[@KianMcTear-xi2dh]

Hey you might remeber me from a yt short when i said " can u recommend something to lead up to this plane " would u be able to send me a discord invite for the rc planes

[@TwoBrosRC]

Discord link is in the description