Scammed selling my MacBook, almost

[@Kaldrax]

Crazy, in Germany eBay removed auction costs for private sellers completely in 2023. Probably because not enough people were using it and they feared for their market position.

[@QWERTYQwertz852]

@@Kaldrax Yeah. Ebay was way to much filled up with Companys Seeloing stuff and Not private sellers here in germany. Im Glad they changed it

[@Psi-Storm]

Before they removed the fees, they already had free weekends quite regularly or refunds of the fee as an ebay shopping voucher. So if you were just wating for the promos, it wasn't that bad either. But the 0% fee for private sellers is great.

[@DR0Dangerous]

Wollte ich auch gerade schreiben

[@k6kaysix675]

I sold my MacBook Air M1 on eBay, the buyer only lived about half an hour away so I dropped it off in person and turned out it was for their son who was just starting college which made me happy seeing the smile on his face at the surprise that his parents had bought it for him, so miracles do happen...sometimes!

[@RichWithTech]

That’s a nice a story, but how did you know they won’t pretend not receive it if you just drop off? Seems risky in your part

[@DavidRadkowski]

never, EVER, sell anything of a substantial value on eBay :(

[@der_pinguin44]

@@DavidRadkowski I'm permanently banned from eBay for getting revenge on a scumbag scammer. Worth it, as eBay chose to side with the scammer, tells me where their priorities truly are.

[@eltamarindo]

eBay can work very well even for high value items. You can set your account to that only people with a certain level of reputation can buy from you, and you can vet and even cancel bids and sales to shady looking buyers. That said eBay is best for selling unusual things where there are very few potential buyers in your local area. If you are selling something like a MacBook where you're sure to find a local buyer, then you should always price below eBay and conduct a local in-person sale.

[@DavidRadkowski]

@@eltamarindo that’s not entirely true - when a scammer sends a faulty device or a brick back, you virtually have no chance of getting either your item or money back. eBay will *always* side with a buyer; I’ve been in this situation few times unfortunately…

[@jothain]

@@DavidRadkowski It's quite long ago, but I bought something like was it HDD casing from eBay and shipping time was quite long. I got remainder in the end made reclamation as item didn't arrive in time and got refunded. But item arrived like week or two later. Seller was insanely surprised for me contacting him/her that if I'd send the transaction back to their PayPal. Got very grateful email back saying he/she was losing frequently money on selling on eBay and mentioned that they're always on the side of buyer, not the seller.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😶

[@NicoCoetzee]

You should probably add on your listing that you only ship once payment is received. Obviously eBay will not need that.

[@pf100andahalf]

Or sell it somewhere that holds the money in arbitration and only through paypal, like swappa.

[@Robert65536]

In Germany, eBay isn‘t charging any fees for private sellers. The buyer pays the shipping and you get the full amount.

[@Fordance100]

WOW.

[@kiki83607]

only if buyer is from Germany there is no fees , but they taking 3% fees for selling outside of Germany

[@raguel259]

Marketplace is so bad right now. Tried to sell a MacBook Air and 29 out of 30 buyers were scams.

[@nothingtoseeherelolkek]

$1500 for the buyer and $1100 for the seller?! What insanity is this?

[@mjbakedbeans]

Sold a friends MacBook pro on ebay for 1k. They said the buyer paid 1070 (tax and shipping) but then after shipping and eBay fees, i recieved 840. Terrible. So many people tried to lowball me and scam me too, almost feel for one of them.

[@theairaccumulator7144]

Rip. That's a huge loss.

[@epsig1507]

Facebook Marketplace is the worst, avoid it at all costs

[@thenetworkmystery]

The only time I've ever used it is when I need to sell an item too large to reasonably ship (such as a huge server).

[@shadowwsk3507]

You MUST only sell with meetups only in fb 😂

[@AxfNPn3l]

Messed up that eBay charges their fee on the sales tax and shipping to the seller. What a racket that is.

[@specy_]

@@AxfNPn3l people used to put the main price in the shipping so to reduce the taxes of the sale, I guess they caught on and now they tax both

[@dakshbhatnagar]

I loved how you said "I added a little bonus" in that email to the Facebook Marketplace guy who claimed he transferred funds to you.

[@10secondsrule]

The best way to not pay eBay fees isn’t to use eBay. It never coughed up in Poland as we don’t like to waste money for nothing. Everyone is using local alternatives. I like this way.

[@coolm98]

The quallity of ebay as an application is truly mind blowing for a company of its size. You can seriously fuck up the UI from pretty much every page it renders if you try to

[@terencecoustillas9675]

Ebay has become a shitty company and their's customers are have been milked since a loooong time ago already!!!!

[@olepigeon]

12:26 - It's worse than that. They charge sales tax AFTER applying eBay fees. eBay double dips on taxes.

[@thingsmymacdoes]

I sold a macbook pro on ebay a couple of years ago. Buyer cancelled before I sent it and Ebay charged me 250 euro in fees anyway.

[@patriotdrone9566]

Had the same thing happen. Had to fight with Ebay customer service for hours on the phone get fees refunded.

[@jothain]

Wow. How on earth is something like that possible? 😳

[@patriotdrone9566]

@@jothain eBay is a scam company. They take and give nothing

[@VoltX_1]

I had someone buy my MacBook, then a totally different account sent me a message saying to send the Mac to his sister because he is moving. Absolutely insane. Sad people fall for this stuff

[@malumbosiwale3832]

I think your audience would be interested in buying.... I would definitely buy that MacBook at that price!

[@DielsonSales]

I’m selling my old Mac Mini here in Brazil and have to go through all these same scams. Seems common on FB because they’ll ask you to post in another service that handles payment so they can send you a screen asking for your email. I think it’s a FB thing because they trust the person won’t know how the other service works and will think it’s plausible that the service asks for the seller’s email before confirming the transaction.

[@ilyaalexakhin8745]

I sell on eBay all the time (UK). Once every 2 weeks you get a seller fee discount of 70% for 100 listings. It really goes a long way towards mitigating the pain. You might need to build up your account a bit to start getting the offer.

[@123moe]

fun fact: the amount is variable, mine is always an 80% discount and my sister is always 100%

[@10secondsrule]

I used eBay a lot in the U.K. never got such offers.

[@wayne8797]

eBay fees, PayPal fees are legit extortion. I always list my stuff for $1 starting bid and they all sold MV with no exception. Ive had my fair share of scammers asking for off platform trades, discounts because they are a poor “student”… my standard response is “the listing is still live, good luck bidding”.

[@raffitchakmakjian]

I had just financed a Mac Mini along with a 61 key midi controller and a bunch of other recording tech. I sold my old emac I was replacing with the Mini for $50 on Craigslist. When the guy came, I told him about all the sweet new gear I financed. This was during my lunch break. While I was at work for the rest of the day, he kicked open my apartment door and stole my entire computer setup, recording gear, and a priceless nylon string acoustic I had. I hadn't even made the first payment yet on my new stuff. I called the cops, but they could care less. I saw the thief's girlfriend driving in front of my place (there was more stuff in my place they wanted to steal but didn't get a chance to) and was yelling at the cops to go pull her over, but they just carried on writing up their paperwork. Lessons learned were to pay closer attention to the type of buyer (they offered to trade me weed half way through the transaction over text message), and that I shouldn't let anyone know about my work schedule (I told them I'd meet up with them for the emac sale during my lunch break) nor about my new purchases. Haven't owned a Mac since, although I really wanted one. 15 years have passed and it still stings.

[@Fordance100]

Still remember eBay used to charge 2%, then 3% fee.

[@javiTests]

I just checked and ebay in UK charges more than 12% in fees! That's the actual scam!! 😮 I thought it was an error or something, but apparently not...

[@IboKnowsBest]

Here in Germany the taxes were eliminated one year ago. Before that it was 10% or so. At a price in MacBook territories, that’s to much

[@abz7800]

your so uneducated you dont even understand how secure ebay . ebay has so much security that its worth that amount . 13percent fees or 100 percent get scammed on Facebook easy choice

[@jamesdietsch7868]

@@abz7800 bit harsh with the “uneducated”.. might be the complete opposite for all you know. Keep it friendly

[@javiTests]

@@abz7800 So now a matter of opinion is to be uneducated. OK, great... I know how much security ebay has, but more than 12% is way too much. You could have told me that ebay "safety net" is worth that, and that would have been fine. But assuming I'm uneducated, shows your true colours...

[@abz7800]

@@jamesdietsch7868 probably was but uneducated isn’t the same as stupid . In the regard of not realising eBay is very fair with its charges I’d say he is uneducated .bare in mind I didn’t even mention the fact that eBay has 70 percent of selling fees multiple times a month

[@minuszero332]

My concern with selling on Ebay is less to do with fees and much more to do with their tendency to side with buyers … i.e buyer says they received fake / broken / not as described item and you’re potentially out more money, if not all of it.

[@rg975]

This is why I avoid marketplace. There are too many people trying to scam you, more so than eBay by a long shot

[@TheJoseUrena]

You pay 2k for a Macbook, sold it almost new and received how much? You are scammed the very same moment you pay for Apple products

[@xali2008]

So what we learned, the real scammer is the eBay.

[@mendodsoregonbackroads6632]

Telling the Scammer to “Get a Spreadsheet” Alex don’t give him any ideas.

[@mavfan1]

I'm totally willing to pay more fees to avoid all the scamming POS "buyers" and the time wasted dealing with them.

[@nizaramanchar8735]

Lol you forked the other listing hahah

[@jjcoolaus]

In Australia, an M1 with 16GB / 1TB refurbished is $2000 (on Apple website). $1600 on eBay for 16/512gb. EBay fee in Aus is 13.4%

[@joelj457]

yeah ebay sucks in Australia

[@krzysztof1703]

Nowadays we have great technology that allows us to sell things without spending hours on hot or cold marketplace just few clicks and done... But man... You can't use that technology because everyone want to rip you off! Im sick of that.

[@AwokenAssailant]

Only about halfway through but wanted to point this out before I forget, Zelle payments are advertised as non-reversible, so if you can get them to agree to a Zelle payment that's usually a good sign. Plus, that's money directly in your bank account, no waiting.

[@kiki83607]

bank transfer is safest for seller

[@ipodtouch470]

That’s a catch 22 though no buyer should ever ever agree to Zelle

[@AwokenAssailant]

@@ipodtouch470 very true

[@alesh-cz]

Totally agree with the awful UX of ebay - they just froze in time. I guess as long as the money keep pouring in, they have no incentive to improve.

[@ZelenoJabko]

Alex, you are so Süß and Kind. It would be so sad if you got scammed

[@RichWithTech]

My favourite Time wasting conversation when trying to sell something online is: Them: is this item still for sale? Me: yes Them: *never replies again* Like what response were they hoping for there?

[@AZisk]

that’s the best line, but would require a separate video just for that 😆

[@AmfistomosAtlas]

eBay's doing the scam properly xD

[@SWOhioSpeedtesting]

Had no idea you were in Ohio. Personally, I haven’t sold in person on FB or Craigslist since like 2021. Too many scammers (and scams) to keep track of nowadays. eBay does suck with what they take. But for the most part, it’s guaranteed money.

[@realmac3k]

I used to sell my old Macs for years on eBay without incident. Now I just sell directly to a well known 3rd party or trade-in directly to Apple. Not worth the added fees or hassle with a $2k+ device in my opinion. Even for a used Apple Pencil or pair of headphones people would try to lowball me. “What’s the lowest you’ll go?” “I can pay you $X right now, deal?” Usually I say hey the action ends at X time usually within 24-72 hours. Then they go silent.

[@Shogoeu]

Ebay is a total scam - they're charging their fee on the pre-tax + pre-shipping sum.

[@mrdave5500]

I gave up selling on eBay years ago as it's just too easy for scammers to buy your item, send back a broken version and then claim through PayPal.

[@morgana2265]

I really appreciate this video as I was getting ready to sell my MacBook. Now I know where to sell!

[@tortysoft]

I will never sell anything.

[@haiiirookami]

in Germany we have ebay with no auction costs for private sellers and Kleinanzeigen (formerly also owned by Ebay) which is pretty good for local deals (although you also need to be aware of scammers)

[@eltamarindo]

I have been using eBay since the beginning but selling on eBay can be crazy complicated . eBay will send you enticing promotions every few months where you can sell a certain number of items for zero seller's fees. However, you should leverage your reputation and sell through your own social media channel, not Facebook, and not eBay. If you sell through your own channel you won't have keep track of the confusing layers of fees, shipping . . . when you do your taxes.

[@aldoinfanzon]

One of the ones I just to get a lot is the the check scam, even when you say on Facebook marketplace only zelle or venmo no checks they keep offering checks saying is a cashier check which either a real normal check with no funds or a fake one

[@scottsun345]

Just never buy things without thinking it over. Selling second hand on these platforms is a nightmare

[@Gmon750]

My time has value. The headaches you are showing shows why I don't sell things online. I'd rather trade it in to Apple and know it's done and reliable, I'll go that route. To stress about getting $200-$300 more for my laptop and risk getting scammed just isn't worth it.

[@joesalyers]

I always sell Macs local, I did score big once with AMD RX5700XT GPU I was using with my old intel Mac in a eGPU box. Once Apple Announced the M1 Max I put it up for sale. I paid like $350 new for the 5700XT and during the pandemic when GPUs were going for like 3 times the normal asking price because of coin miners, I posted it with the title "make me an offer". With in 10 minutes I was offered $700 for it by some 19 year old gamer who lived about 12 miles from me. Lets just say I got the 2 TB M1 Max instead of the 1tb model and a external trackpad with a few dollars left over for audio plugins!!

[@mphillips2110]

These stories remind me why I left ebay years ago. Had outstanding feedback and hundreds of transactions for many years. I just got tires of their ridiculous fees and having to constantly fight with scammed. Also ebay always sides with the buyer 99% of the time even when the buyer is trying to rip you off. Good riddance.

[@steveellsworth2547]

I would only sell when i can meet them face to face with actual cash in hand.

[@pixelbat]

The real crime here is not using dark mode. Ebay is the worst. I stopped using it a long time ago. Mercari is pretty good. Also Swappa for phones, tablets, laptops.

[@Watchandlearn91]

I almost got scammed on eBay for a Mac mini one time. I will never sell anything on there again. Thankfully, I am in a good position where I can just afford to take the loss through apple trade in. I don't even care if the value is lower than what I could get third party, it literally isn't worth my time dealing with all those trash scammers.

[@АртемФедоров-ю7б]

I don't understand why you have to pay sales tax if it's a loss, you paid a laptop for 2000$ and then sell it for 1300, the change is -700, so there is a loss of 700$. Or I don't understand US taxes?

[@Psi-Storm]

He is probably running a production company for his videos, so this isn't a private sell. His company got the sales tax refunded when he bought the laptop, so now they have to pay it when they sell. There shouldn't be sales tax between private citizens.

[@АртемФедоров-ю7б]

@@Psi-Storm oh, that makes sense.

[@-drey]

don't forgt the dual layered scam. they ask for a video of you and the item, so if you don't fall for the official scam they will have a lot of personal info to duplicate your post, including a video of the item "as proof"

[@JustinThibodeaux-v3n]

Mainly why I don't sell on ebay unless I sell for higher, same with Swappa, the fees are just unreal. Swappa it's more of the PayPal fees.

[@r4dius]

Ebay became worst than scammers

[@computersales]

It is kind of funny how the biggest scammer on eBay is eBay. Also selling high risk items like Apple products on eBay is a huge risk if you are a casual seller.

[@devluz]

I paid $1450 (new zealand dollars) for a m1 mac book air on special end of 2020 and now got a $600 gift card for trade-in at a local shop. That seemed like a really good deal. They even sent me packaging and paid for shipping. I wonder if reselling instead is even worth the additional time it takes?

[@FlyingPandaDev]

1:30 (Timestamp) Correction: What you're looking at is the 15" model, not the 13" one... Apple website: 13" Ebay: 15"

[@proautoscan]

Christ, i had no idea Ebay taxes are that high, i always thought for a transaction like this they are like 10-15 bucks or so. Now that's a business...

[@mavfan1]

you were really that clueless? fees that small for thousand EUR+ transactions?

[@mylastore]

Off course is a scam when they offer more $

[@lahcenaouina]

im big fan , beacuse of u im trying to get mac , i still use lenovo thinkpad from 90s

[@alexandrucraevschi5639]

Alex, we want to see your battery test results for AMD Zen 5

[@raffitchakmakjian]

almost makes the trade in seem sensible.

[@manishmg3994]

that's great , any cheaper platform for selling these kind of stuffs, also will you announce any giveaway in future

[@bandito241]

PayPal and “sending payment right away” Tell me a better duo

[@shakibrahman]

Tried to sell my macbook early 2023 and same thing on facebook marketplace. Only scammers trying to get me to ship them the laptop

[@Mohan22369]

I too got that kattty paypal scam😂

[@canesguy5]

eBay hold the funds until the the buyer receives the laptop. That protects the buyers. You should know this if you been a ebayer seller for a long time

[@joshuadavidmcgee]

Swappa is much better for selling used items. You should make a video selling there vs. eBay.

[@marctronixx]

swappa, offerup are two other options.

[@DavidAmodt]

It’s called not selling much on eBay and holding funds for risk

[@Get_yotted]

I always preferred doing eBay auctions. I got bulk laptops from a local place for a good price. Would refurb and stress test. Craigslist did give me the best return, but it takes a while. I was more interested in moving more laptops since they were taking up space. In the end I made a good profit, did not do it the next year thanks to the current administration changing the tax code. It was fun while it lasted.

[@mardiniwilldern]

The biggest scammer here is eBay itself!

[@neila880]

Scammer at 7:08 didn't even list the right laptop down (MacBook Pro instead of an Air). lol.

[@Holycurative9610]

Scammed by Apple and then scammed by Ebay, that sucks, but I learnt a valuable lesson..... Don't buy a new mac and don't use Ebay.

[@Andreas_Straub]

Here in Germany eBay is not asking for fees ....

[@barefeg]

Does Craigslist have buyer’s protection? Doing the transaction in person is kind of sus. Especially for expensive stuff.

[@AZisk]

it’s definitely not for everyone

[@paulgooderham]

Very educational.

[@vignesh306]

11:51 Yahoo mail jumpscare

[@Evteboda]

I recently sold my air m1, because i got m1 pro 14. in 3 year it lost about 60% of the price

[@AlmorTech]

Oh wow, no eBay for me 😮

[@muhdkamilmohdbaki7054]

Moral of the video, "Don't get scammed by the OG scammer (Apple) or the full 100% amount (cyber scammers especially on FB), settled for the 13% scam (online marketplace like ebay). Always pick the least of the scammers" 😂.

[@rosemberglucena94]

Alex, I wish you could review the new ryzen hx 370 laptops, it would be amazing

[@OcelotSF]

wtf ebay is a scam with 30% rip off

[@Vuknovic_04]

Yea a grandma photo and a new facebook account. That is 101% a scam

[@mylastore]

Sell them in Swappa

[@gerasimoskardaras1319]

wow eBay charges a lot !

[@DivitMukhi]

Dude setup website where you subscriber like me can buy it. 😊😊. I am student and was looking for a macbook

[@daytonaukpc9387]

This would be awesome 😀

[@TechGameDev]

you can make a video how to install flux ia locally (open source ia image generator) on mac

[@Utkarsh_1508]

Hey, unrelated to the video, did you get the snapdragon x elite developer kit?

[@AZisk]

waiting for it

[@yoram_snir]

Just sell it to Apple. This video make me stress for you.

[@synen]

Selling to Apple is an even bigger scam.

[@MatrixRoland]

I avoid Facebook everything. Can’t stand Meta or Facebook.

[@yash.icarus]

Thats the right way to go.

[@johnathaan1]

Should try mercari next time I've used mercari quite a bit and it's better then ebay by a mile and makes Facebook market place look like a joke

[@djdashkenya]

What about a case where someone else owns that paypal account?

[@PasanRathnayakee]

What is the new situation about Snapdragon Elite?

[@sarunas8002]

So the scam here is ebay