Scamps in Khaki: The criminal lives of home front deserters in WW1 | Andrea Hetherington

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@gblcfc65
@gblcfc65 Ай бұрын
Top quality presentation. Andrea really knows the subject and her relaxed style is entertaining and informative
@georgemulcahy4515
@georgemulcahy4515 Ай бұрын
Excellent. Very interesting and seldom discussed.
@patrickHayes-bq1ry
@patrickHayes-bq1ry Ай бұрын
one of best delivered WFA lectures I have seen , really engaging style and great delivery
@chrishewitt4220
@chrishewitt4220 Ай бұрын
That was a very interesting talk. Thank you.
@CobinRain
@CobinRain Ай бұрын
Really good talk. Thanks so much…
@wstevenson4913
@wstevenson4913 Ай бұрын
Brilliant stuff Andrea !!!!!
@j5edgar2h
@j5edgar2h Ай бұрын
Thank you -- an interesting slice of our grandparents times x
@xNevikKx
@xNevikKx Ай бұрын
Awesome subject. Thanks!
@stewartfullager493
@stewartfullager493 Ай бұрын
Really interesting subject and great presentation Andrea.
@pmac798
@pmac798 Ай бұрын
Amazing lecture. I hadn't really thought about that all going on very interestingthank you. Beautifully narrated 😊
@Tomcallinswood
@Tomcallinswood Ай бұрын
Really interesting presentation!
@sandovalperry2895
@sandovalperry2895 Ай бұрын
In every war with conscription you’re bound to pull in a criminal element. Those criminals don’t change their ways because they are in the military.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Ай бұрын
Judging from the presentation, there was also no consistent policy of excluding those with records, either.
@stephenbarker5162
@stephenbarker5162 Ай бұрын
​@@stevekaczynski3793in an era of paper records and the rapid expansion of government administration during WWI, I imagine re-enlisting under another name or at a different town, would not have been too difficult.
@henryjohnfacey8213
@henryjohnfacey8213 Ай бұрын
​​@@stephenbarker5162True. T. E. Lawrence re-enlisted in the Air Corps under a different name. There's a whole mine of extraordinary stories their to be told. Greetings from Yorkshire.
@stephenbarker5162
@stephenbarker5162 Ай бұрын
A very interesting and well presented talk. I have heard about the criminal activities of deserters in WWII but not about the previous war. For British Society WWI especially conscription was a new and unprecedented situation.
@CliffMcAulay
@CliffMcAulay Ай бұрын
The real criminals were the ones sending these men into the 'meat grinder' . Good luck to the ones who stayed in the attic, that's what I would have done. We have hopefully learned never to listen to the powers that be. A very interesting talk about a terrible subject thank you.
@grahamthacker6498
@grahamthacker6498 Ай бұрын
Completely agree.
@DerAngriff
@DerAngriff Ай бұрын
WW1 was a criminal absurdity.
@MarkSmith-jt3pt
@MarkSmith-jt3pt Ай бұрын
But yet you enjoy the freedoms those men went to war for like been able to write that comment on the interweb
@Dusty-uy3ev
@Dusty-uy3ev Ай бұрын
@@MarkSmith-jt3pt I’m native I will not be leaving turtle island for war.
@therealrobertbirchall
@therealrobertbirchall Ай бұрын
​@@MarkSmith-jt3ptwhich freedoms we are still subjects of the English crown. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@paulm3033
@paulm3033 16 күн бұрын
Brilliant.
@john-y7z
@john-y7z Ай бұрын
Much respect,Andrea, really good and deep presentation, themes and how you do these are really good, a difficult ship to keep on an even keel! (recognise you fron the 'bavaria' pub) all best to you...keep class work like this up!
@ivanconnolly7332
@ivanconnolly7332 Ай бұрын
The" Black and tans" paramilitary force sent to Irelandi n 1920 to "police"the native population included paroled criminals, unsurprisingly bank robbing, looting ,drunken violence and murder , the burning of Cork city and Balbriggan gave the force a terrible reputation.
@NickRatnieks
@NickRatnieks Ай бұрын
"Sent to borstal in Kent". Would that be in Borstal itself? Very interesting and enjoyable talk.
@charlytaylor1748
@charlytaylor1748 Ай бұрын
He-e-ere's Wiki... "The word originated from the first such institution established in 1902 near the English village of Borstal in Kent, and is sometimes used loosely to apply to other kinds of youth institutions and reformatories"
@sailordude2094
@sailordude2094 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the discussion. Interesting topic. Deserters that are also cons. Lol, quite a reputable group.
@nledaig
@nledaig Ай бұрын
Excellent
@EXO9X8
@EXO9X8 Ай бұрын
I sure wonder how they explained that one to poor Jack ……
@NathanDudani
@NathanDudani Ай бұрын
Depressing
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Ай бұрын
The Smyrk family later knowing nothing about the case until being told of it could have been a case of the episode simply being embarrassing. It was decided to forget about it.
@squidgypoppet
@squidgypoppet Ай бұрын
Great topic, wonder if we will see a follow on covering deserters behind the front lines in france.
@lynnmorton7544
@lynnmorton7544 Ай бұрын
Wow, even that generation had its own share of villains
@andymoody8363
@andymoody8363 Ай бұрын
The greatest generation!
@fintonmainz7845
@fintonmainz7845 22 күн бұрын
What was "great" about killing people you don't know because you swore an oath of loyalty to the Windsor family?
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Ай бұрын
The Jack Smyrk business reminded me a little of the Hollywood film _Sommersby_ which was itself based on a French film. That was founded on a real case, I think from the 16th century.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 Ай бұрын
Victor March dying a hero seems to be a case of him using "coolness and presence of mind" on the Germans, rather than, say, to burglarise or deceive a war widow.
@factorylad5071
@factorylad5071 Ай бұрын
Apropos Percy Topliss . I took a train through the French countryside on a stopping train and the station (although not used) is as the photos in the book . Read the book it's a right riveting read and I believe every word.
@raoulcaliente1030
@raoulcaliente1030 Ай бұрын
Interesting . . .
@HandyMan657
@HandyMan657 28 күн бұрын
But did any of them claim bone spurs?
@denis-mf3cx
@denis-mf3cx Ай бұрын
👍
@matthewmoore5698
@matthewmoore5698 Ай бұрын
Hang on I thought they shot desserters back then maybe I it was that dodgey film !
@mickwhelan28
@mickwhelan28 Ай бұрын
Switch this whole presentation around if it was Women that had to go to war and a man was delivering the presentation . " Only 365 women were shot at dawn " titter titter
@charlytaylor1748
@charlytaylor1748 Ай бұрын
except it would be *guffaw guffaw*
@mathewhex7045
@mathewhex7045 Ай бұрын
Mhm, mhm, I can understand where your coming from however I took that alot differently. I took it to mean that was an atypical amount perhaps lower than previous days around that time
@henrypollock7987
@henrypollock7987 27 күн бұрын
@@mathewhex7045yes but he’s implying how when you switch it women it’s horrible but with men just a quiet Tuesday
@kearnsdouglase
@kearnsdouglase Ай бұрын
No they were ... for a reason
@untwistedlogic2976
@untwistedlogic2976 Ай бұрын
Lol and your still telling them off
@Americal1970
@Americal1970 Ай бұрын
I am American and I can't understand a word you are saying.
@fintonmainz7845
@fintonmainz7845 22 күн бұрын
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