Troubleshooting An Intermittent Idle Only Misfire (Dodge Durango) Part 1

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2014 Dodge Durango 3.6L that has had a new #2 ignition coil and plug installed and it continues to show misfiring on the #2 cylinder. Customer complaint is an idle only misfire and it runs fine under load. Join us as we walk you through some fundamental testing methods that can be applied to all cars. #picoscope #snapon
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@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Gas analyser reading 27.3% Oxygen in the air🤔 Tell Danner to get it calibrated😉
@billrimmer5596
@billrimmer5596 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to c DD here. Never miss an SD or DD video. DD fixed it again!!
@EKHondaMotive
@EKHondaMotive 2 жыл бұрын
Good eye! Great catch!😁👍 -100
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
🤣 nice
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 2 жыл бұрын
Air is 21% oxygen, mostly N2 (78%)
@eugeniujosanu279
@eugeniujosanu279 2 жыл бұрын
The " computer guys" working toghether, Nice!
@chrisdavis8299
@chrisdavis8299 2 жыл бұрын
I actually learned a lot from watching you perform all the various tests! So not a total waste of time brother! Thank you for everything!
@grandsea2
@grandsea2 2 жыл бұрын
Always good to see that even World Class Tech's like yourself get tripped up scratching their heads by the new part bug sometimes...just proves your human still! Thanks for sharing!
@tracydiller9378
@tracydiller9378 2 жыл бұрын
Intermittent problems is a pain to begin with but going thru the troble shooting you did led you to the problem.Great video as always.Stay safe everyone.
@benclark1113
@benclark1113 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Learn so much from you! Had a similar issue with my wife’s 3.6 pentastar a couple years ago, it ended up being 1 failed exhaust rocker arm on misfiring cylinder. Wasn’t making a sound!
@CumminsDriver100
@CumminsDriver100 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot STAND getting bad new parts. When I first started working on vehicles my brain would automatically convince me that no, it can't still be that because its brand new if the problem remained. Led me on many ghost hunts that I learned the hard way from.
@speedy_pit_stop
@speedy_pit_stop 2 жыл бұрын
I waited days to finally have time to watch this one. Glad I did. It's not as fun when the diag is too easy.
@Joseph-xx4fd
@Joseph-xx4fd 2 жыл бұрын
Dealt with this exact misfire, exact engine and vehicle. The 3.6 pentastar engines from Chrysler are notorious for roller rocker failures. Just like your coil primary tests it didn’t show in the waveforms I captured. I ended up seeing the excessive “turbulence” at idle in the secondary waveforms caused by improper intake valve seating from a failed rocker, pulled valve covers off and found the rocker took out the cam lobe. On some of your captures you can see the “turbulence” at idle in the secondary burn. Hope this helps appreciate all that you do, I’m a premium member and love the content👍🏼
@kolton5543
@kolton5543 2 жыл бұрын
It's kinda crazy how inconsistent the misfire symptoms from failed rollers are in these 3.6Ls. I had one in a caravan about a month ago. Had a dead miss at idle on #3. Found an intake rocker with just a tiny bit of slop. I thought surely it couldn't be the problem. Replaced it and miss went away. I have a Journey in the shop right now with a small miss on #1 at all times. Intake cam is wiped clean. One valve opens half way and the other doesn't open at all. But only a light miss. Had a Chrysler 200 a while back. Had dead #1 miss at idle and cruising but was fine under load. Again, intake cam lobes were totally wiped clean. Both valves barely opened at all. It seems like every one of them misses differently and the worse the cams are, the better they run.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
The excessive turbulence you mention is not what we were seeing during the misfire 😉 While I agree, that can happen, but when a spark line completely disappears like we had, this is never from a mechanical or fuel problem. Thank you so much for helping me do what I do. You guys (premium members) are the reason I still produce content here and don't ever ask for donations to the channel. I'm forever grateful.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
@@kolton5543 i bet in your examples, cranking compression tested good too! But this is where secondary ignition was so valuable here in my case. Also wiped lobes can be caught using an intake and exhaust psi transducer and of course a running compression test, but when the intake covers the cylinder that you need to get to, the psi transducers i mentioned would have been the key!
@kolton5543
@kolton5543 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Both the chrysler 200 and the caravan had both good cranking and running compression. Nothing noticeable with a mechanical gauge at least. Unfortunately I don't have a pressure transducer for my scope. I'd like to get one sometime. Might make diagnosing valve train issues a little easier on these 3.6Ls
@weshawkins7165
@weshawkins7165 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent who done it video. I’ve use my older A/C hydrocarbon sniffer for the same test.
@bm3772
@bm3772 11 ай бұрын
Had the exact same issue with a secondary ignition misfire. On the same SUV it Keep sending me down the wrong rabbit hole. Sounding board is good to have. Thank you it was very helpful ASE Certified Chris
@shawnhimel1969
@shawnhimel1969 2 жыл бұрын
Great video on the total diagnostic process, lots of great testing. great job Danner, great editing too...😁
@luismarty1685
@luismarty1685 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul. You are the man. Keep up the good work Kaleb.
@faustogonzalez8397
@faustogonzalez8397 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Paul , as always AWESOME video !!! keep up the great work !!
@TradeAlgoPremier
@TradeAlgoPremier 2 жыл бұрын
SD, pls keep us updated on fixes and what the other shop missed plus what type of spark plug used and ignition coil if feasible. Sometimes aftermarket parts don’t play very well engine management system. Thank you sharing this video.
@johnjohannemann1220
@johnjohannemann1220 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation and diagnosis as always 👍🏻
@JoseAndrade-ke4fz
@JoseAndrade-ke4fz 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what i needed! Thanks for the awesome video.
@jonathanbarnes3792
@jonathanbarnes3792 2 жыл бұрын
Was surprised how low statistic for cylinder head was on the repair ranking for the P0302. I was getting tons of compression loss diagnosed for case study results when I had a Grand caravan here with same code, same engine. I was losing sealing of exhaust valves on my customer's 3.6/cylinder 2 as well. Anyway looking forward to the update. Thanks for taking us along on the struggle with this one.
@Paul1958R
@Paul1958R 2 жыл бұрын
Caleb, James, Paul Great analysis and video - thank you! Let us know how it ends. Paul (in MA)
@haakanlight9661
@haakanlight9661 2 жыл бұрын
just got the fuse adapters from AESwave myself. Awesome tool to have.
@thogevoll
@thogevoll 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your videos. I used to have a 2002 Chrysler T&C that developed a really bad multi-cylinder miss fire. It started as a single cylinder miss fire but after a particularly cold night it became many cylinders (almost all) miss firing. Turned out the wiring harness for the fuel injectors came loose from its support and fell down near the exhaust manifold and melted the insulation on the wires and they shorted together. It was a mess. I had to use a heat gun to separate the wires and then cut out the bad section (about 4 to 5 inches) one wire at a time rejoining them with butt splices and solder with heat shrink over them. After I got done with it the harness still reached to where it needed to plug in and was now too short to get too close to the exhaust. Car ran great after that. Apparently this was a fairly common problem.
@silvergate8952
@silvergate8952 6 ай бұрын
Thank you great description of my problem too
@Pablo_Automotive
@Pablo_Automotive 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this kinds of videos it's really interesting.
@codysautodiagnosticsprogra8706
@codysautodiagnosticsprogra8706 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video like always Paul
@amr-50
@amr-50 2 жыл бұрын
That was a great one danner you are a star
@thesmartguy3523
@thesmartguy3523 2 жыл бұрын
Had a similar case with a Yaris 1KR, misfire was only at idle, at higher RPM, no misfire, no fault codes, all tests passed, turned out to be a damaged intake valve.
@normangallant9879
@normangallant9879 2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a find.True at times new stuff can be the culprit
@THERIDESHAREMINUTE
@THERIDESHAREMINUTE Жыл бұрын
Just went through this with a 2018 caravan light misfire when cold but after several hours chugging at certain speeds on highway. After spending 1500 full coil plugs all gaskets. Still check engine light would not stay off. P302 permanent code. I took what it was gonna cost to keep chasing the misfire and went to the dealer and just traded it in. Got an earlier model, less miles and no check engine lights on and a 4 year 80k warranty as my vans warranty expired during the pandemic. These 3.6 engines are really good as long as the problems don't start popping up.
@everythingbutkoi6898
@everythingbutkoi6898 2 жыл бұрын
Great work again
@billrimmer5596
@billrimmer5596 2 жыл бұрын
Thank u for some great instruction.
@robertnicholson8054
@robertnicholson8054 2 жыл бұрын
Interested in part 2 also. Saw which I didn't know in petrol injector engine. You have to balance reset all injectors. As timing slightly out. Can only be done on expensive scanner tools not a self DIY 😒. Good luck from Capetown
@isalmankhan1
@isalmankhan1 2 жыл бұрын
Superb👍 Thanks for sharing SD, Love it👍 The best part is your cool tool's arsenal😎 The outro was awesome, great job Caleb😉 Stay Safe Guy's❤
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, just read this comment to Caleb :-)
@isalmankhan1
@isalmankhan1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScannerDanner Thanks a lot SD, this is a huge compliment for me😍 You're my mentor, Love your work always, what I've learned from you is unimaginable👍 Stay Safe & Blessed❤
@JAKEaudio2
@JAKEaudio2 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Question: What solution are you using in the spray bottle??
@godfamilycountry4211
@godfamilycountry4211 2 жыл бұрын
Secondary ignition problem? I need to do a little research. Great video guys thx so much
@knock904
@knock904 2 жыл бұрын
I see u taking the tips Scanner ..u are awesome .gotta keep us sumth 2 click on
@alrifainidal
@alrifainidal 2 жыл бұрын
nice work Mate 👍
@nemanjadzombic6101
@nemanjadzombic6101 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another perfekt video!!! I know I would struggle with this one. Actually because it's 2 wire COP maybe I would not, but if it's 3 wire and I can't see secondary, that would be a huge struggle. I mean ignition related misfire on idle and not at load... how often do you see that... If it was 3 wire COP, the way to go I think would be to swap that number two coil and plug. But as I said, idle only misfire would put me far awy from even thinking that direction. Greetings from Serbia.
@JamesSmith-xs7sr
@JamesSmith-xs7sr 10 ай бұрын
Had 2 of those 3.6 with int misfires due to faulty valve seating. Many had recalls for replacement cylinder head. Both vehicles had misfires on the front center cylinder. Last one sounded normal during compression cranking (sans gauge) but ended up with only 60 psi with compression gauge attached.
@jdhern9078
@jdhern9078 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@mypony7310
@mypony7310 2 жыл бұрын
I did one 6 months ago. 3.6 chrysler. Ended up being the cylinder head. A cylinder leak down test showed it pretty quick. The new head from chrysler was only like 350 bucks
@Portuguese-linguica
@Portuguese-linguica 2 жыл бұрын
Ya the head was only 350.00 but labor and taxes plus other hidden fees more along the lines of 900 to 1,350.01
@carloshernandez2216
@carloshernandez2216 2 жыл бұрын
There is a TSB for this problem in bank 2, they even extended warranty to a 150k miles
@THERIDESHAREMINUTE
@THERIDESHAREMINUTE Жыл бұрын
​@@Portuguese-linguicaexactly. So I just went through this for the 2nd time in less than 3 years with 2 different caravans my 2016 and now 2018. It was easier to use the 1300 bucks for a down payment and buy another one that comes with a 4 year 80k mile warranty. Case closed. Piece of mind for the next 3 years minimum.
@mauriceorduna3564
@mauriceorduna3564 2 жыл бұрын
Just had one of these..same motor same symptoms. Referbisded the heads and found the exhaust valve on cylinder 1 was stuck. Code P0301 Replaced the valves too. That got rid of the misfire. I also thought it was ignition related. Thats what it feels like. Little rumble coming from driver seat.
@glennallen7129
@glennallen7129 2 жыл бұрын
You looking solid danner lol! Thanks for the awesome video!
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
Been back to the gym for a few months. 😉 Was slacking over the past few years
@abonourabonour1006
@abonourabonour1006 2 жыл бұрын
Love you ...love you...love you from my heart 💖💖💖💖💖 best teacher in the world
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@enriquemartinez7990
@enriquemartinez7990 2 жыл бұрын
AgainAgain thank you very much I love your videos and it’s awesome when you talk to your brother on the videos it’s a lot of fun thank you very much man God bless you say hello to your brother he’s a cool man👀🌿
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@fire7765
@fire7765 2 жыл бұрын
Good job
@HouseCallAutoRepair
@HouseCallAutoRepair 2 жыл бұрын
Love the comments! lol Anxious to see part 2.... Is it cold solder joint on the computer's coil output signal? Shorted coil blowing drivers? Or a defective spark plug with no ground strap?
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
If it was a solder joint in the ecm, we'd have seen that in the primary current ramp test 😉 Same thing with a shorted coil or driver issue.
@davidraezer5937
@davidraezer5937 2 жыл бұрын
Curious to know if it was a OEM coil used or aftermarket or maybe they used anti seiz compound and got some on the porcelain. I wish I still had access to a 4-gas. Block tester works most of the time.
@fulano787
@fulano787 2 жыл бұрын
Pentastar 3.6 is known to have poorly machined valve seats. Results in cyl 2 misfires. There’s a recall for it. That’s why it’s the first recommendation in the troubleshooting tree. I have one in my wrangler and it had to have the cylinder head replaced under 5k mi
@dans_Learning_Curve
@dans_Learning_Curve 2 жыл бұрын
Like #20 Thanks for the video! Looking for part 2!
@eddiereichel9354
@eddiereichel9354 2 жыл бұрын
I went through a 6 month nightmare on one of these. It also had cylinder 2 misfire and it had a new coil and spark plug in cylinder 4. I found cylinder 2 low on compression. This was last year around july and I ended up finding low compression on cylinder 2 due to valve sealing issue. Burnt exhaust seat. I get it back together after waiting 3 months on a cylinder head from Mother Mopar. I even took the old head to a machine shop and they could not get the valve seats. So I get it back together and its tapping from the rear of the engine. Its my own fault for not hearing it in the first place but It ended up being roller rocker failed.
@nigelclark7360
@nigelclark7360 2 жыл бұрын
All good stuff
@justinballard7242
@justinballard7242 2 жыл бұрын
13:05 good ole 350 vortec leaking around the injector connector. Seen that trick before 😂
@Steven-mh9gc
@Steven-mh9gc 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the techs that are suspecting cyl head. Have had several myself that failed cyl leakage tests. Known problem with 3.6 liter Chrysler penstar engine!!!
@steveguest8028
@steveguest8028 9 күн бұрын
Great video this is Paul i have been caught out by this before, had a vauxhall with a dead misfire on cyl.2 put a coil pack on it and the misfire was still there and STILL on number 2 cyl. Would you believe it was a faulty coil pack causing the misfire on the SAME cylinder …. Crazy stuff man
@joemichael3656
@joemichael3656 2 жыл бұрын
Found idle miss fires on some ford 3.0 liter 4 valve engines to be burned exhaust valves, usually you can hear it while cranking but got fooled by that because it was so slightly burned and the misfire monitor was picking it up. Also found 4.6 liter engines with head gasket leaks into the cylinder and would miss when cold, took a while to find put the pressure tester on and let sit overnight pulled the plug and found slight amount of coolant on the center of plug.
@kevinfrye1822
@kevinfrye1822 2 жыл бұрын
I seen people say cylinder head and there was a call back / service bulletin on the first 3 years of the production of the pentastar 3.6 l cylinder head causing misfire on the #1 bank but it's usually all 3 cylinders on that bank. They ussually fail a cylinder leak down test .
@wmwil2564
@wmwil2564 Жыл бұрын
You got so many tests at your disposal it's all about picking the right one
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@Kota_Bear
@Kota_Bear Жыл бұрын
With that misfire check engine light did you have the stop/start warning light come on as well? I'm chasing a similar issue but the S/S light comes on too.
@CountChokcula
@CountChokcula 2 жыл бұрын
learned a lot
@timhanialakis8269
@timhanialakis8269 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it will be back for a rocker arm. Super common I used to replace these rocker arms weekly ( 10 year CJD master technician ). Normally the exhaust rocker arms would make no change in sound when they fail.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
Someone else mentioned an engine noise too and this engine had zero mechanical noise from memory. I believe the camera mic was picking up the injectors in a few shots as it was attached to me and I was leaving into the engine bay
@htownblue11
@htownblue11 2 жыл бұрын
For an experienced diagnostician, a first instinct is usually a good idea as to where to start, but the goal must always be to let hard factual data / input be the final diagnostic end all. Process of diagnosing is part science, part instinct, and part experimentation. Read the plug and boot and replace accordingly.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately upper intake removal is necessary to gain access to the coils and plugs, but you are correct and I'm doing everything I can to prove whether or not I need to do that 😉
@eugeniujosanu279
@eugeniujosanu279 2 жыл бұрын
Had a missfire only at idle or stop lights (park or drive idle) . Was driving me crazy since I know most of the stuff is new , turned out to be one spark plug (all replaced with new ones ) . It got a small crack on it. (No eng light ) New parts going bad in minutes can drive you clueless really fast .
@DirtyWorm12
@DirtyWorm12 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dan, ive had misfires with these 3.6 engines and lifters stick and the roller rocker roller itself wears out
@Volusiaev
@Volusiaev 2 жыл бұрын
@ 26:05 Grammy Danner must really be praying for you, Paul, LOL
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 I'm dying, yes she absolutely would be for that rant
@daveunbranded
@daveunbranded 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same motor. I reused that intake gasket 2 times. I know it says you can't. But I had no issues
@stephaniejones9520
@stephaniejones9520 2 жыл бұрын
My sister is a master mechanic and also an automotive tech teacher at a tech school in Martinsburg WV...do you have any pointers or words of advice if she was thinking of making videos for everyone like you do???
@stevencorridori3406
@stevencorridori3406 2 жыл бұрын
Get it all set up, won't break, story of my life.
@alexisjohnson9608
@alexisjohnson9608 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Scanner Danner awesome Tec videos you can reach a larger audience here on KZbin I miss the Hands-On back in the old class days at Rosedale continue to share the knowledge God bless take care
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
Is this my friend Alex? Former student at RTC??
@alexisjohnson9608
@alexisjohnson9608 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScannerDanner yes sir it IS my friend Paul.
@alexisjohnson9608
@alexisjohnson9608 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScannerDanner yes it is me my friend. Good to see the videos AND to hear from you.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexisjohnson9608 oh man! It is so good to hear from you my brother. I miss you man. It has been a really long time. I hope you are doing well and your spirit is well too. It certainly was not the last time we spoke. May the God of peace be with you every single day. Are you still local?
@alexisjohnson9608
@alexisjohnson9608 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScannerDanner hello brotha Paul good to hear back from you. I'm doing well thank you. It has been to long brotha. Searched hi and low for you man and then just decided to leave a comment and pray 🙏 you would read it and reply. You looking huge man and good to see u and ur son working together on different projects. Hopefully one day we can get together so we can catch up even more my brotha. Stay Strong and keep up the good work.
@M-HWeldingAndMechanical
@M-HWeldingAndMechanical 2 жыл бұрын
3.6 pentastar from Chrysler had a lot of issues with the cylinder heads. They even extended the warranty on those heads
@jorgegonzalez-bk8zn
@jorgegonzalez-bk8zn 2 жыл бұрын
Happen to probably all of us before if there if there is a new part that is the last part in question but so many aftermarket parts fail
@Dragonchi1971
@Dragonchi1971 2 жыл бұрын
What is the "ticking" sound coming from? There was a time our 2011 Durango Express 3.6 ran smoothly, always using premium fuel here in Georgia. Now, at 167,000 miles, it's making the same "ticking" sound as the one you're working on.
@philh9238
@philh9238 2 жыл бұрын
What about a crank sensor issue? Or a pcm update
@tcifusion4497
@tcifusion4497 2 жыл бұрын
FREAKING LOVE THOSE CASES....THE ONES U THINK U GOT IT!!DAMMMMM I LOVE THEM......
@James-fs4rn
@James-fs4rn 2 жыл бұрын
👍 can't get enough of this channel. Can the secondary ignition waveforms be used to indicate the condition of the spark plugs? Thank you!
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Condition as in wear or an increased air gap? It would be hard to pick that out but it would increase your firing line a bit. But if the plug is open or shorted, yes, you'll absolutely see that in the waveform, but further investigation would be needed because a bad wire or coil can look similar
@James-fs4rn
@James-fs4rn 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScannerDanner Copy that. I was thinking of a coil on plug setup to judge if it were time to change the plugs. Thanks for the lessons!
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
@@James-fs4rn got it, and yeah, when I see a messed up secondary waveform, there are times that I cannot differentiate whether it is a bad plug or coil, so I move coils and plug around when possible
@kicknsystm
@kicknsystm 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't quit looking at that red Camaro. I used to have a 76 same basic color.
@JimmyMakingitwork
@JimmyMakingitwork 2 жыл бұрын
Valve seat issue or carboned up valves… On to the video. :)
@liquidrockaquatics3900
@liquidrockaquatics3900 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not a mechanic, but could that be a cracked boot and as the rubber heats, it loses the path to ground and operates properly?
@mypony7310
@mypony7310 2 жыл бұрын
Was it a blue streak coil?
@JimmyMakingitwork
@JimmyMakingitwork 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. You would think they would Know if the problem started after a tune up to look for bad parts? Let us know.
@OSA931
@OSA931 Жыл бұрын
Position 200 REV counter which means? I have Durango too and i have misfire problem on idle.
@okhotrodder
@okhotrodder 9 ай бұрын
I've been working on an '19 3.6 for a couple weeks. Swapped parts several times. Dealer said camshaft and rockers. Still have a idle miss that gets worse and worse as it warms up. New lash adjusters, rockers, camshaft, injectors and coils. Still has a miss. Compression is good, all wiring was checked. Just at a loss. When I pulled the cam, left exhaust, it did look bad and I was sure that was the issue till I replaced it and nothing changed. Solus still shows #2 secondary miss fire. Swapped plugs and coils and nothing changed again.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 9 ай бұрын
you need to do a running compression test. It is common to have good static compression and have poor running compression from a valve issue. And it will also be an idle only type misfire. An in-cylinder pressure transducer on a lab scope would be ideal, but you may be able to catch it with a regular gauge
@lance1097
@lance1097 2 жыл бұрын
We have all been there Paul. Why didn't i do that to begin with. Kicking myself .
@cesarjorgemurillobarientos1813
@cesarjorgemurillobarientos1813 2 жыл бұрын
good
@dugy40
@dugy40 6 ай бұрын
sometime when u get a little time can you explain what your listening for when u hold the pedal to the floor and try and start it?
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
Watch the first part of this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5qQp5SOiMqooac I go over it in detail
@blakeknox6178
@blakeknox6178 Жыл бұрын
Just curious, if it was a bad coil or a plug, my guess it has a bad lifter, or a rocker arm, or cam lobe, I worked for a Chrysler for the past 15 years, thanks always looking for new info
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I proved the fault in the waveform of the secondary.
@josephbragg1162
@josephbragg1162 10 ай бұрын
Your the coolest. My question is my truck has a number 3 cylinder misfire and same thing goes a bunch of stuff had been changed out basically throwing money at it changed the plug wire and it's a 96 Chevy Silverado 5.7 c1500 and I was thinking the same thing, did I just get a bad plug or a bad wire but I have yet changed them out again to test that but I was wondering if an ignition coil for that truck could possibly just cause a number 3 misfire? Just curious as my brother is a mechanic and been doing it for like 38 years and he's always busy training other mechanics and working as a recon manager for a dealership. He gives me help when he can but I wanted to kind of see what you think. Ignition control module was changed out IAC was changed out TPS was changed out cap and rotor was changed out but it's just a misfire on cylinder 3. I was leaning toward injector and if it is the injector or spider injector system I was going to get the upgraded injector system anyhow because the original spider injectors on those trucks actually kind of suck and plug up fairly easy with this crappy gas we have these days. I used to run non-ethanol gas in it but because of the prices I now run 87 and then an injector cleaner which I may be wrong for doing this in the first place. Great video though I love it I've watched two of your videos so far since I come across you and you really really know your stuff pretty well.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 10 ай бұрын
check compression on that cylinder. search "relative compression sound test" on my channel. Easiest one to do
@eduardotejeda
@eduardotejeda 2 жыл бұрын
That fuse box clic never gets old. 🤣🤣🤣
@duanedonaldson2262
@duanedonaldson2262 Жыл бұрын
Only guessing, the ECM ASD Output where the fused power in coming from, probably is monitoring if the ASD Relay is closing and the ECM senses the 12V and there are 3 lines to spread out the amperage. NEW, Never Ever Worked. Hi Paul, its Duane from Japan, now in the Philippines, working on coming back to the USA 2024.
@JDgomez001
@JDgomez001 7 ай бұрын
What kind of scope he used at the end? To check the formware of coil ? I need that tool 😂
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 7 ай бұрын
Picoscope I believe
@jonny8813
@jonny8813 Жыл бұрын
Hey off question, what 5 gas analyzer set up was that?
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
PA state emissions machine. One of the few tailpipe test machines left here.
@stanleystickles7703
@stanleystickles7703 2 жыл бұрын
Cylinder head. We changed 12 this year
@nightstorm9128
@nightstorm9128 2 жыл бұрын
Is the 3.6 direct injection...
@JoeCnNd
@JoeCnNd 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if he's going to swap to another cylinder. Edit: in the end I guess thats what he'll do. Lol but I love you did the other stuff to keep it informative. The 1 on 5 might be a false read.
@kylesalem-fuson8012
@kylesalem-fuson8012 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve done 4 camshafts in the past year on these. First one took my lunch. Second I was okay. Third and fourth I just pulled the valve cover on bank 2 and there it was. I can swap a cam on bank 2 in about 45 minutes now lol
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is the intake has to come off, so all this testing was to prove that is what is needed to continue.
@kylesalem-fuson8012
@kylesalem-fuson8012 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScannerDanner understandable. I don’t personally have a lab scope nor the experience to use one as effectively as you do. But I do have a fair bit of experience with those 3.6 pentastars and can have that plenum off in 15-20 minutes lol so I go with what I know
@jdtractorman7445
@jdtractorman7445 2 жыл бұрын
I think try a compression test and leak down test. I saw an engine with a valve sealing issue that had about 125psi and would only occasionally misfire. Had a fubared valve seat in the head.
@alfee9411
@alfee9411 2 жыл бұрын
yep cheap assurance ..had one a year ago that another shop did a used engine and then a coil, injector was bad and smoked the cylinder and i replaced the engine again with all of the goodies. a year later all ok fix it right
@kevinfrye1822
@kevinfrye1822 2 жыл бұрын
I believe there s a KZbin specific to this issue on the 3.6 pinstar
@darrylschuman5373
@darrylschuman5373 2 жыл бұрын
Miss at idle only? My first thing would be to use vaccum gauge first for diag. Then i would smoke intake to check for any vacuum leak on that intake run er of missing cyl. I would lokk at plug very closely and then finally do a compression check and leakdown test on cylinder in question. Lean miss on that cyl ??
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
Intake manifold covers the coils and plugs and must be removed so that would alter ones direction a bit 😉
@timothymohammed919
@timothymohammed919 2 жыл бұрын
when doing the hydro carbon test itmay be wise to allow the coolant to cycle as the thermostat may stop the air from coming to the bottle .......
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
For sure 👍. Engine was hot and that is also why I burped some fresh stuff into the overflow and retested. Hope that made sense why I did that.
@MarioDallaRiva
@MarioDallaRiva 2 жыл бұрын
ScannerDanner Premium members need to hear the unedited audio! 😎😈👌🏼
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@verohandymike
@verohandymike 7 ай бұрын
28:39 Actually the very first thing I've ever done when one cylinder is misfiring is to swap coils and plugs to see if the misfire follows them.
@MrJgonzalez2
@MrJgonzalez2 2 жыл бұрын
2 minutes into the video, from experience these engines have lifter/head problems. Should be interesting what you find, oh by the way, intake manifold gets in the way of everything.
@m.mooverssr9211
@m.mooverssr9211 2 жыл бұрын
I always look at mode 6 and ffd look at engine temp
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