SCARIEST Track Day Experience | Honda S2000 Loses Brakes at over 100mph!

[@garyivanbringino]

Higher temp brake fluid is a must!

[@danielvorisek8362]

He runs Motul RB660 which is the best for his use, but he need proper race spec brake pads

[@BlakesGarage]

@@danielvorisek8362 Castrol React SRF RBF is actually the best but the Motul is good also if you want to save a few bucks.

[@s2kcj953]

Confused on why you would even go back on the track knowing your brakes are not functioning correctly. You certainly put other drivers at risk doing this. Love seeing you out there driving the shit out of your s2k!

[@coreymcnees5130]

Your positive attitude and positive way at looking at that situation even though it wasnt the best is inspiring Dustin! Keep up the great work, you're looking better and better each time you go out to the track!

[@juanrizkyr34]

Bruv 100 + mph no brake well grim reaper from legend media is waiting lol

[@garyivanbringino]

You have to "seat" new pads and rotors before really using them.

[@ISMarco]

You handled that well! I've had the same experience with boiled fluid at about 90 mph haha. I also appreciate you taking the time to record your driving journey and sharing it, it's been cool to see!

[@mushy18100]

If you upgraded Big 4 piston calipers like Spoon ones and DOT 4 racing brake fluid, you should need Spoon Brake pads on all 4 corners, Spoon Rotors front and back, and Spoon Brake Lines as well. Essentials for track racing: (NA-starters) • racing brake pads • LSD • baffled oil pan • new oil change *accdg to Tatsuru Ichishima -Spoon Sports CEO 🇯🇵 #goSpoonSports

[@itsvictorrivera]

track the EVO!!!!!!!! That being said, i change my oil, brake fluid and trans fluid after every track day, brake pads after 2 track days, tires after 3 or maybe 4 track days.

[@aaguirre123]

focus the video camera on the front window. it's over exposed.

[@alexisamitrano1]

aaguirre123 yeah.... it’s a pity, because we cannot see the track at all

[@jed1m1ndtr1cks]

Or use a helmet mount

[@jed1m1ndtr1cks]

At least add some subtitles or something so we know what’s going on since we can’t see anything

[@JK-tu1xx]

Essential track-day tools and accessories are as follows: A full 5 gallons of replacement oil and a replacement drain plug and crush washer, Impact gun, breaker bar, socket set, a few gallons of coolant and/or distilled water, spare wheels and tires, spare brake pads, extra brake fluid for 2 brake fluid changes, speed bleeder (I recommend the Motive power bleeder), tire pressure gauge, jack and jack stands, zip-ties, and a torque wrench. Having all those will majority of the time allow you to get back out on track if anything happens and let you make the most of the day that you pay for to be there and run your car.

[@jvh22a]

Awesome you actually using the car! also not just throwing money at it to make a high hp. This is great so others can see the driving and progression.

[@kade5005]

Dustin took “keep moving forward” a little too literally in this video lol

[@Ejiokpa16]

Probably should get some steel braided brake lines

[@therealdiegoalunan]

Ejike Okpa I think he has one already installed

[@EmjayDTube]

I think he only changed the lines on the front. The rear is still probably the stock brake lines

[@dustiinw]

already have them

[@DirtDude117]

High Temp fluid, stainless lines, a LHT master cylinder brace, and brake ducts (Baero Tech) will help with pedal feel and overcooking them.

[@On3_media]

That’s why getting your driver skills up is SUPER important! Good job, Dut! That’s really scary.

[@Coeuriz32]

Note to self idk if you’re doing it or not but after running a session and going into the pit don’t put your E brake up leave it down if you aren’t already

[@alexisamitrano1]

Coeuri Z32 great advice. Dustin, check this

[@ShirtsAreRare]

Someone said this under a different video as well and Dustin replied that he was aware of it

[@alexisamitrano1]

[KAIN] KillOrDeath you’re right. However, it’s worth reminding him again. He said in one of the 1st videos that “he should replace the rear brake pads but there was no stock of Spoon ones”, so he didn’t and tracked the car 3/4 times. There you go. I’ve very limited track experience in my S2K, however I’ve never ever showed up without a proper check of the pads and eventually a 2nd st of them.

[@_Machine631_]

it's a learning process man. you find out what wrong and what's not working and how to correct everything. add braided lines to the list of parts.

[@sebas_jiimenez]

DUT that's control losing the brakes on a track and staying like you did is skill respect buddy !! (Notification band) 🔥💪🏻

[@EcFlipz]

Never been so hook with your videos. Hondas and grip racing is #1!

[@jackwong272]

Holy, it was so scary!!! Nothing couldn’t be scarier than losing brakes on track or on high speed especially if you driving on mountain or race on touge😱 I crash once due to malfunction of braking as well, I completely understand how scary it is to lose brakes on high speed😱😱😱 Glad to see you improve so much from the very beginning til today! Almost completely different from your first start🙌🏻🙌🏻 Shout out to you and always be safe🔥🔥🙆🏻‍♂️🙆🏻‍♂️

[@snewstead1388]

Dustin. Use Carbotech XP10 or higher brake pads. Do a full flush of ur brake system for the Wilwood EXP600 racing brake fluid. It’s higher wet and dry boiling pint then Motul. Honestly you will get a solid brake pedal all session long and never fade with this setup.

[@pAnchocrack92]

This is part of learning at the track, and don't forget to change also the brake fluid for a racing one, cheers.

[@kasper_429]

I was thinking that you should've overhauled the complete brake system when you were just doing the front calipers and pads, but didn't say anything because I didn't want to come across as a douche over the internet. Lol. It's definitely time for new rotors (6-pot front and 4-pot rear, if Spoon makes them), pads, race brake fluid, and stainless steel brake lines all around. Glad you handled it well and the only thing that was damaged were the brakes! Stay safe out there, Dut. Loving the S2k content so far!

[@hilgendorfphoto866]

Can we see the evo on the track...drag or road course. Love the videos 👍🏻

[@alkisbakas9640]

Glad you managed to control the car at this situation that requires much much skill Dustin and I like a lot the track days videos, but I also love the R32 and I’m sure everyone’s missed it, so where is it?😂❤️

[@MahjikM3]

Not sure if you are reading all these comments, but I'll provide some suggestions (based on what I do with my S2000). First, between each track event, I take off my brake pads to measure them and then flip them inside and out. One side wears faster than the other with the OEM calipers. You'll get more life out of them this way. The piece about measuring them, is that you can then judge how much pad you are using on each track. So if you see you have 5mm of pad left, and you know the last time you were at the same track you used 3mm of pad, then you know you might be ok for the event. But if you know you used 5-6mm last time, you will know you need new pads. Next, I wouldn't bother will drilled and slotted rotors. I've had good success with Centric Cryo rotors. If you plan to keep the OEM calipers, look into adding brake ducting. As others have mentioned, braided lines and good brake fluid will also help. Good luck and keep up the good work. Lastly, you might want to make sure you have "Spot Metering" enabled on your GoPro. It will adjust the outside light so it doesn't make the track too bright. The consequence is that the interior will be darker but you'll be able to see what's out the window.

[@RyanDenton]

Welcome to the no brakes club, went through the first turn at PIR roval at 120mph backwards with no brakes

[@ncrx1]

you need vented rear discs from either urge or reillyracing , the oe rears overheat and basically completely fade, then the fronts work extra hard and overheat. the spoon brakes basically do nothing as the front discs are too thin and lack sufficient heat capacity and dont have large enough vents to cool the fronts sufficiently. you will need to upgrade the rears and the fronts to a real front brake kit from someone such as stoptech

[@BlackFlagNik]

Not one to comment and idk why no one has told you this but thought I’d shed some knowledge since I really want you to succeed at the track. If you want less pad transfer from the rotors, run blank rotors (still vented obv). When the pads get hot, they get sliced from the slots and drilled parts. Second thing, run some better pads personally I use carbotech xp12s cause they can handle the heat better but knowing this is an all spoon build just run some better spoon pads. Since you’re already going this hard, buy some blank rotors from like rock auto and carry them with you on track days since blanks tend to crack with high heat, no biggie since they’re 30 bucks on rock auto or again since you’re doing a spoon build get more spoon rotors lol. Stainless steel lines as well but I can’t remember if you upgraded them. Lastly if you want to be a baller and upgrade to the best brake fluid, look into castrol spf (if I remember correctly) it’s like 60 bucks a quart tho... You’re getting really good, I love the track content dude. Hope to run into you one day at bw with my S as well!

[@ridewryan]

Dut, put your gopro in protune and adjust the EV comp down to -1 or even -2. It'll help balance out the exposure and shoot to underexposure the overall image so that the track isn't fully blown out.

[@ivandominique3057]

Amazing, I think you should start tracking the Evo and the R32, get a feel for the different chassis and see how the time compares.

[@PenguinScotty]

I'd suggest switching to SRF for the brake fluid, that'll help a lot. RB600 or 660 needs to be bled after every event, SRF has been significantly better. By running down the pads metal on metal, you also more than likely superheated the fluid in the back, that'll also add to the problem of the soft pedal. Running a street pad in the rear means it'll overheat and start fading very very fast. Realistically, you may be able to get 3-4 laps before they are toast/fading. The 'transfer layer', as it was described, is actually something you want. That's what happens when you bed in pads. A slight film of the pad gets transferred to the rotor, increasing braking performance. What can happen is, if you switch compounds, some do NOT like other compounds, resulting in a really bad transfer layer resulting in vibration and lack of performance. Additionally, you can also glaze the pads when not properly bedding them. If that happens, may as well throw them away.

[@notFA5T]

Try lowering the EV comp on your GoPro a little bit so we can see the track better. Glad to see you’re ok tho mate! Loving the new time attack content!

[@MyGoToUserName]

DOT 4 or DOT 5.1 fluid. Dedicated track pads to start. Brembos or AP racing if you want better heat absorption. Also consider some ducting to the brakes. It will help keep your brakes from cooking.

[@byronkaiju]

My order arrived from legends the other day, thanks Dustin for dropping the doppest merch. Also hope to see you race the r32 somday.

[@michaelphillips8960]

8:28 you can see a t-shirt I designed in the background :) feels good man.

[@luwiechang1137]

You should bring the WRX contents back and track it also with all that aero no track days for it!

[@geraldrogers9481]

Time to upgrade to steel braided lines. Maybe some stoptech rotors and pads. Love that GoPro content..👍

[@derekyam1805]

I'm only going to say this once.. Its great to see new beginners working hard to develop their skills and car controls. Now, as for some of your "consumables" is questionable.. Biggest mistake was getting AutoZone pads. If you ran out of pads, I rather end the day early than use those pads. Now, I see way too many people suggesting changing everything related to the braking system (lines, pads, calipers, rotors), and not one person suggested brake cooling.. Yes, you are correct if you say brakes need heat to stop, but at a temperature range. If you're below, it's not a big deal, you only wouldn't get full braking power. However, if you're over the threshold, things will start going wrong; pads disintegrating , fluids boiling, brakes fading, caliper seals melting. So as an advise, throw those "Duralast" pads in the trash, get yourself some decent high performance pads that has been proven on the track (I'm guessing you're still on the Spoon front pads; so for the rear, get something that is equal or less in power), and work on brake ducts.

[@red_dragonracingsilvereclipes]

yep losing brakes at that speed makes for some serious pucker factor should run racing pads street one's on the track will wear down to nothing in a very short order and also tossing in racing brake fluid since they heat up to some serious temps that way the fluid doesn't break down so easy.

[@Monkeymann1107]

Buy some pads that are designed for the track before you crash and get high temp fluid

[@michaelvincent6773]

Crazy bro, mad skills, mad video 🙌

[@Nakaamaa]

Always replace the rotors when changing the pads. Do a brake fluid flush too. Hope it fixes the problem. Great video, good luck!

[@oz7934]

Did you upgrade your brake fluid? It could have boiled which would cause spongey brakes

[@willr69420]

Glad you're ok!

[@brunomanco7529]

Besides steel mesh hoses, something like motul rbf oil, are mandatory. And also your gears are too long. Need a shorter final drive to boost exit corner aceleration.

[@DeKay]

I know you're sponsored by Spoon and trust me, I love Spoon parts... 75% of the parts on my car are Spoon. However their BBK is not the greatest. A slightly larger caliper utilizing stock/stock size rotors isn't really that great. You need a BBK that offers 2 piece rotors... like Stoptech, Alcon, AP Racing, and or Brembo.

[@athfdrizzle]

I doubt he is. he just has money to buy things. he is trying to I guess but why would spoon want to.

[@PumpkinDefender]

Dustin, I’m loving the progress on the S2000. Still waiting on more R32 videos, haha. When are you gonna go full send and make the S2000 a full race car?

[@rohitnarayan8170]

Spoon parts failing one by one

[@austinkenworthy5844]

As usual 😂

[@Ryousure]

Don't hurt the jdm boys ❤️

[@elianmorales4855]

Mugen ftw

[@mason8725]

Urge rear brake kit would help I'm sure 👍🏻💪🏻🏎

[@drewdalesandro672]

Love the track vlogs!

[@JS-of5nb]

Amazing S2000! Have you change the baffle oil pan to prevent oil pressure loss?

[@noliftcommit380]

Learned my lesson getting some cheap auto part brakes. They weren’t supposed to be permanent but I was waiting for my actual brake pads and rotors. Spun out at mt Wilson downhill. Scariest moment ever

[@nismomike2359]

Upgrade to a higher temp fluid and stainless steel lines. Your probably getting too much fluid fluctuation in the stock lines and the fluid is boiling causing you to have a soft pedal.

[@Datsrboi]

HEY buddy have you checked your valve retainers on those car and make sure its not cracked? Its a huge problem on the AP1 and since you are running it hard its best to check it. haivng a valve drop into the engine is not a good day.

[@alf4384]

hi Dustin. great vid👍🏼. did you change your wheels on this track day? what wheels are those? looks great on the S2000👌🏼.

[@FULLTHROTTLEAUTO]

Love track day content, keep it up.

[@xBPxHolistic]

Yo has that hat been on the website before? Looks dope 👌

[@REXODESSY]

nice track day, good content PK

[@Shankmeyster]

Could have sworn rotors needed to be resurfaced or replaced before slapping pads on brakes that have been worn down like that. You probably roasted the fluid burning those pads down. I think a Brembo setup would be a much better choice for so much track time.

[@willhill6971]

Really want to come to America and meet you and look at all your collection of cars! Glad your okay!!

[@torks2339]

I don't know what you were expecting from those brakes or pads but you've hammered the living bollocks out of them for 3 straight track days now. Do it right foot crying out loud or do the next track day in a wheelchair.

[@stevelteska]

Great save at the end so glad u didn’t wreck

[@valentinluvara8833]

I recon u should get a no lift clutch installed or whatever they are called, would save some time in the straights

[@OakleyOptions]

Those Narita gloves are such a huge flex

[@JBaek24]

Were the brakes broken in properly when installed?

[@bobbyrios2k223]

Loosing brakes at that speed looks scary as hell man!

[@wadyjimenez8153]

Dustin would you consider tracking your evo?

[@Toca_Abyy]

So you need to change out your fluids every track day & your rear brake pads if you're not running track ceramic rotors + the correct pads. But keep it up you're doing great 👍.

[@mattlawrence1756]

What do you do even look at when youre prepping the car for a track day? How do you not see you have no pads. Pretty sure that's a critical element.

[@_Martincito]

Wouldn't be surprised if the new pads are glazed which would inhibit your braking but those rotors were no good as soon as the old pads ran out and started going metal in metal.

[@LiquidLoveDNB]

Dut, you need to be completely flushing the brake fluid after every few track days, and using at least rbf 600. Fluid flush and check pads. This is your life we’re talking about

[@rossohfond7679]

Possibly a light tint on the windscreen so we can see the track too?

[@augustdriving4477]

You need track pads and fluid. You want and need pad transfer on your rotors to get the best braking ability; that is not the issue. Braking is suboptimal until you have a layer of pad on the rotor. That’s why we bed new brake pads in before going to the track. Also, others have said it, but you need a HANS with harnesses and you need a seat that fits. That Bride is too short for you and is a safety risk.

[@minionz916]

11.08 and don't thank me later 🤣😂

[@chlpataLOPticKa]

hero

[@jl.4526]

11:08 thank me later

[@accuratein04]

I've got the spoon steering wheel in my TL. Looks like a good time out there!

[@shakeelsmith5772]

Thats why you have to use brembo brake callipers those spoon brakes are wack

[@vegardulven9515]

Spoon is not whack lmao. Its the most respected honda tuner out there

[@McRib47]

Pro tip: always bring extra pads to the track. i've done it when i went to Chuckwalla

[@solanod12]

Prep, drive, break, repeat! The circle of life ❤

[@zacharyparis]

So many bad ideas in the comments. All you need is dot 4 brake fluid and high temperature pads. No street pads and no dot 3!

[@dancarlos1216]

A lot of couch potatoes.

[@HosheaYahawadah]

Definitely practice down shifting cause if your brakes give out like that again it might be your only way of "slightly" slowing down....

[@justinturner4850]

Maybe you boiled your fluid and got air in the lines🤷🏼‍♂️ glad you and the S2k are in one piece tho.

[@lewischafer3333]

I Really in enjoyed Watching the Amazing Scariest Tarck Day Experience Good Content

[@jesrex3596]

did you bed in the new brakes when you installed them?

[@Pete0126]

5:35 are you using the e brake after a session :o ?

[@jamesabadilla8856]

take the evo to the track! 🙏♥️

[@toddxhiggins]

Definitely time for some better pads suited for track use!

[@redliner999]

i always say: brake is the MOST important parts of the car. If you start tune your ride ,first of all you have to build bigger brakes better pads and discs. be carefull bro

[@tallenc22]

What are going to do with the R32? Wasn't it supposed to be a track car?

[@thievesmedia5783]

Woah holy shit I've never been this early before. Great vid Dustin!

[@oscarsantos3163]

Whats up with the wrx, brz, evo?

[@clementc9975]

Nothing personal but he should’ve known that the Duralast oe replacement pads wasn’t going to stand a chance on the track. The front brakes and fluid had to work overtime and eventually ran out of their temperature range. Good thing nobody was hurt and there was no wreck. Made for good content though.

[@jaygiatien]

throw some new blank rotors with some project mu club racer pads and you'll be all good.

[@Shankmeyster]

One thing I don' think you have realized is how much you have to change out parts and fluids after each track day. You've already run the car without oil like 3 times so yeah, that motor is probably going bye.

[@TheJMedia]

Damn that's sketchy! But definitely a learning experience!

[@francoaberoiii2995]

The truck need some love

[@jonathanbailey646]

Would it be better to resurface all 4 rotors at least one time instead of buying new ones? Then get better pads, since the pads are the real problem.

[@sanjev0733]

Ayeee the vids are amazingggg

[@muhd.irfanyeager3313]

I'm new here and it's late night in here, Great video! I'll consider subscribing ^ω^

[@minionz916]

Get 4 piston brembo for the fronts and rear can do with dual piston brembo setup nothing more reliable then em brembos