scarpa Quattro XT vs 2023-2024 maestrale RS. initial impressions review.

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[@johns3106]

Totally agree with you about the ankle strap! It is far more important for heel hold than having two buckles above and below this crucial area!

[@GeorgieWorgiey]

phenomenal review thank you

[@SwiftAnthony]

Thanks for the review

[@ethanayer6713]

How would you compare to your time in the Tecnica Zero G?

[@hirokiide7750]

Wow. This is super useful honest review. Thank you. "The GripWalk... It doesn't grip or walk well.." Hahaha..

[@gnarshar]

Do the maestrales have a full bootboard? Or are the toes just straight on the shell like in the quattro? That and the cuff are my biggest gripes with the quattro, toes get so cold and calf’s cramp when i faceplant 😂

[@mikecoux]

Thanks for the great review. If I'm a 26.5 in tecnicas, are you thinking that I should size down for the RS given that the shell is bigger?

[@thicccboyztv]

The fit is different and the liner of the RS is beefier than the tecnica. Overall I'd say maestrale is lower volume. So it depends on where your foot is big. The length on the 26.5 zero g was slightly short for me, but had too much volume in the heel. The maestrale is more appropriate length for me, but is a more secure fit overall. I would go true to size for all day comfort fit or size down for an aggressive fit that may require boot work.

[@Whim396]

Now that you’ve skied the maestrale for a season, how do you like the flex? Do you wish you had the other version? I heard in the previous boot that in the stiffer model, it felt like you were flexing into a wall, not a damp progressive flex. Does the new boot flex progressively or?

[@thicccboyztv]

To be clear, I've not got to ski this boot a lot because our season kind of never showed up in the Pacific Northwest. However, I do not think that this is a wall type feel, Quattro is more wall like, this is a little more supple. In fact, I actually wish that it had a little more responsive stiffness to it off the top. Ultimately, we are talking about lightweight touring boots so dampness and progressivity are not their strong suits as opposed to heavier boots or boots that are constructed differently, ie lange xt3 tour, roxa r3 130 etc. both of those outright are going to have similar absolute stiffness but going to be way more damp and progressive. However, amongst the lightweight category, I would say that the dampness and progressivity is improving. From what I remember of the old version, I do believe that this one is more progressive.

[@marynowany20]

Tried on quattro and old maestrale fiew days ago, I was wondering if they brought the amazing walk mode to New maestrale, so this video has perfect timing xd Is there any difference in walking when you compare the Two?

[@thicccboyztv]

I generally tour with all upper buckles undone and all straps loose and usually only have one midfoot strap done for walking. With the same amount of buckles buckled up ie just the forefoot wave style buckle on the maestrale and the second buckle closest to the heel on the Quattro I find them to walk near frictionless and indistinguishable. The pivot design and cuff overlap is the same as Quattro so it has that same super smooth initial ROM when stuff is unbuckled

[@sendit6683]

thanks for this compare, very helpful info. do you think they improved walking range of motion with new model year Maestrale? I have previous Maestrale, and when shop tested Quattro, I was shocked how much more range of motion there was compared to my Maestrale. that been said, I walk up with fairly closed buckles to avoid unnecessary foot movement. I can confirm that Quattro was immediately feeling as lower boot, like lower cuff compared to my Maestrale.

[@thicccboyztv]

Yes, I feel as though the ROM matches the Quattro as opposed to old maestrale. The cuff pivot joint and shell overlap is identical to Quattro, so the only difference in range of motion that's going to occur is based off of how you buckle either of them

[@tomaszscieplek3760]

Great review. Did you get a chance to ski-test the new Maestrale? Are they holding up to the expectations?

[@thicccboyztv]

Yes, our season is off to a slow start but I've been out about 5 times. Love them, no surprises.

[@tomaszscieplek3760]

Thank you very much. I am also considering Maestrale XT. Do you have any thoughts on them? I am still riding my old Maestrale RS and love them, but I want something stiffer so maybe it is worth going one step farther.

[@thicccboyztv]

@@tomaszscieplek3760 the fit has gotten slightly lower volume, so if the old fit is dialed for you, the old xt is stiffer than the old RS. The brand new rs is stiffer than both but slightly lower volume.

[@GeorgieWorgiey]

I've broken the ski/walk mode lever on my older mastrales multiple times and it makes me hesitant to pick them again. Do you think they're sufficiently upgraded?

[@thicccboyztv]

Scarpa tends to adapt to warranties and refine their products. I have only heard of one breakage on a lever on a quattro and none on the new maestrale.

[@olasving1]

You talked about the length and flex, but what about the last? I have somewhat narrow and pointy feet, so The Dynafit Radical Free is way too wide for me. The Quattro feels snug/perfect, but I see reviews say the Maestrale are best for wide feet, so I'm really at a loss whether the listed 1mm difference makes them too wide for me. Also, a size 27 Quattro felt like the perfect size for me. Would a 26 Maestrale really be the proper size?

[@olasving1]

Sorry, Radical Pro 22/23*.

[@thicccboyztv]

If the Quattro works for you then the maestrale in the size down would most likely work as well

[@matthewtankersley2416]

Do you have any experience with the F1, not the LT version? Any idea how that compares with the new maestrale?

[@thicccboyztv]

Yes, I owned the original f1 for awhile. This is just a totally different boot. A whole lot stiffer, and better walking, more precise closure. It's just far superior in every way. Fit different too. I remember the f1s having a pretty pointy toe box. This one is more anatomical. Maestrale heavier by a couple hundred grams. F1 also had weirdly aggressive forward leans for a touring boot. Maestrale has aggressive leans that are more comparable to everyone else's boots. Frankly the f1 is due for an update and likely even lighter boots like the f1 xt will outski and outwalk it.

[@matthewtankersley2416]

@thicccboyztv good to know, thanks for the details. Yeah I'm definitely regretting the F1 one all but the biggest tours. I'll be very interested in your thoughts on these new ones once you've skied them!

[@kristian7363]

How much does the cuff heights differ? The low cuff of my Quattros are getting on my nerves.

[@thicccboyztv]

It would just be dependent on the size break and if you were able to gain the next size tongue depending on if you stuck with the same stated size or not. Ie 26 quattro equals 27 maestrale and if it bumps the tongue you gain probably a half cm is my guess

[@kristian7363]

@@thicccboyztv Thanks, appreciated!

[@Elkski84]

I hear they are releasing a new maestrale xt next year...?

[@thicccboyztv]

I have not heard that although the Quattro pro is confirmed, which is a 130 plus whatever that means. I think that there is a lot of overlap between the new maestrale and the Quattro so I would be really surprised if they came out with an XT, although anything is possible

[@danieljakowski7799]

You are comparing their stiffness, saying the flex was the same give or take. I found the Quattro XT to essentially not flex at all on snow. And a RS to be quite soft on shop floor 😅

[@thicccboyztv]

Well I own and ski both boots. I would agree with scarpas statement that RS is 125 and quattro is 130 which could feel the same based on how you buckle. Shop isn't the best indicator. I've had more time on the maestrale since this video skiing inbounds and I don't think anyone except a racer would desire more stiffness than the maestrale offers. If it can handle 190 cm 108 underfoot resort rigs it's not going to have a problem with any touring ski. Like I said the stiffness is going to vary immensely based off of how you buckle. If you crank it tight, it's not going to offer much flex at all.

[@danieljakowski7799]

Thanks! Sounds very Quattro how I remember it. Do you have experience with last year's RS? I am looking for something more 120ish if that makes sense. Cheers

[@thicccboyztv]

@@danieljakowski7799 I don't have personal experience other than floor test and fitting with it. It definitely is softer, but I think most importantly it fits a lot higher volume than both Quattro and new maestrale. My concern would be that if you have a decent fit in either of those two that the last generation would have too sloppy of a fit, enough that the subjective flex doesn't matter

[@danieljakowski7799]

Yeah I thought so. I have probably the highest instep you could still put in a Quattro. Flex was stiff and abrupt enough to cause boot edge shin bang. I also seem to like a bit more flex to play with. Currenty in Zero Gs but there I am between sizes and this big tendon coming down from the shins gets crushed. 3piece boots seem generally better in that regard, never had this im AT Dynafits. Thanks for your input!

[@thicccboyztv]

@@danieljakowski7799 I'd check out the Dynafit radical pro. It offers a different fit. And also they have the radical if the pro is too stiff.