Scexit: What If Scotland Becomes Independent From The United Kingdom?

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In 2014, Scotland held a referendum on whether it would go it alone as an independent country, or stay within the United Kingdom. Ultimately, people within Scotland voted to stay with the UK, but that was before the UK opted to leave the European Union. As such, politicians in Scotland are feeling like a second referendum is appropriate. So what if Scotland becomes independent today?
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[@davidmcintyre8145]

It is not correct to say that Spain would veto Scottish accession to the EU. Spain has already stated that it sees Scotland as a country and nation rather than a region of a larger entity

[@aycc-nbh7289]

But it may only give more legitimacy to other potential breakaway regions, such as Scania, Bavaria, and Transylvania, and encourage them to break away from their parent countries.

[@jimso771]

@@aycc-nbh7289 Yes but remember they are not the same as Scotland which is a sovereign nation and not just a region of another country.

[@aycc-nbh7289]

@@jimso771 Are you sure? Those other regions have had similar cultural differences to those of their parent countries with one even being its own sovereign nation and the other two historically belonging to two other sovereign nations. They are indeed very similar.

[@aycc-nbh7289]

@Graeme Roberts So you’re attacking someone personally as opposed to providing an actual argument now? I don’t see how that would necessarily help.

[@davidmcintyre8145]

@@aycc-nbh7289 Bavaria is already one of several federal states that make up Germany so has a very high degree of autonomy. The other states of Europe could also adapt a federal system which would reduce tensions. Ironically if the UK had adopted a federal system it might have prevented the now inevitable breakup of the UK and possibly even England

[@andyt8216]

What gets me is when people say Scotland is too small to survive as an independent nation. Erm, look at nearby Denmark, Netherlands to name but two. And then there is the island of Ireland, the majority of the island which became independent from the UK is one of the richest countries in the world and now much richer than the counties which chose to remain within the UK.

[@gerardmccartney3186]

And Iceland has only 372k people

[@cynic7049]

Netherlands is not a good example it have about three times Scotland population there are several good examples among them Denmark,Ireland,Norway and Finland.

[@campbell3711]

That's the most ridiculous comment ever, just because other countries are small doesn't mean that we would then be the same😂 different economic interests those countries you mentioned are part of the Eu so they aren't truly independent not to mention Spain has already said that they would veto Scotland if we wanted back in the Eu because Scotland interfered in Spanish politics about the Catalonia referendum that was illegal plus Sturgeon already said Scotland would be green so we wouldn't be able to use any natural resources and then you add in borders, passport, currency military, immigration, British businesses head back down south out of Scotland plus the numbers are enough to be able to sustain a country people who work don't work can't work I think the number is around 2and a bit million out of 5 and a half million would we have the NHS? What about tax setup? there is a lot that goes into this it isn't just as simple as wanting to leave when a democratic vote had already taken place that is the very opposite of democracy😕 Also, that is why top economists have debunked Sturgeon's independence manifesto saying it won't work because there are too many uncertainties. Ireland is nowhere near one of the richest where did you hear or see that😳? The UK is one of the richest🤔 Look it up 👍🏻

[@andyt8216]

@@campbell3711 not ridiculous at all. Why according to you is Scotland incapable of the success the Republic of Ireland has achieved? Why according to you are the counties of the island of Ireland which remained part of your ever so rich United Kingdom, so much poorer than the independent nation?

[@cjryan88]

the EU will not let them join

[@OneTrueScotsman]

It's also worth mentioning that many Scots voted to stay in the UK in 2014 because they wanted to stay in the EU. The UK unionists said that if Scotland applied to join the EU as a sovereign nation after independence, then the rUK would VETO us becoming a member. Between the two referendums, in Scotland, the vote to remain in the EU had much more support than the vote to remain in the UK (which itself was as high as it was, because we wanted to stay in the EU). Even many Scots who are pro-UK, are so reluctantly. Usually because they have been told that financially we're better off staying in the UK (at least this was the argument in 2014, since then the UK has committed economic suicide and implemented harsh cuts to vital services). Only 18% of Scots, according to the last census choose to identify as "British citizens".

[@cmcc3721]

Absolute bunkum. NOBODY in Scotland in 2014 = " Oh i voted No because i want to stay in the EU" YOU PEOPLE JUST MAKE STUFF UP AND EXPECT EVERYONE TO GO "Oh well. It must be true because it might've been the case and he just said it" lol PS David Cameron PROMISED a Brexit referendum in 2013. A YEAR PRIOR TO THE INDY REF. Makes your story even less believable!!!

[@staunch2207]

Exactly! But this time there will be 70% of us voting getting out of this hostage situation of their Yoo kaaaye!

[@charlestaylor3027]

Nonsense - if Scotland wanted to be in the EU more people would have voted to say in 2016.

[@staunch2207]

@@charlestaylor3027 NO it's just that at least 45%. we're so wanting to get away from your England they would have risked whatever.

[@AzulinhoAzulinho]

@@charlestaylor3027 62% voted to stay in the EU in 2016; every single one of the 32 LAs had a Remain vote. I don't know how you could get a much more comprehensive and convincing result that said Scotland wanted to stay in the EU.

[@yoannbelleville7763]

For what I've heard, the Spanish government has already stated that they wouldn't oppose Scotland from joining the EU. Also, they wouldn't necessarily need to in order to use the euro. Several non EU members are allowed to use it thanks to a few agreements.

[@piedrablanca1942]

Scotland case is VERY different from Catalunya, Scots will be wanted back in the EU

[@alexburns6783]

Spain did not object to Croatia or Slovenia joining the EU after they broke away from Yugoslavia.

[@AzulinhoAzulinho]

Scotland is an energy powerhouse, producing a surplus of oil, gas and electricity, yet its people sit in cold houses, scared to use their cars or their heating with electricity and gas which was _already far too expensive_ and now the prices jumping several-fold - thus, the *unassailable* case for independence is made.

[@redred7289]

Clearly you've never left Russia.

[@davidmcintyre8145]

@@redred7289 In actual fact the poster is correct Scotland already exports 30% of it's electricity production to England,Scotland being more than self sufficient in electricity and none of that electricity comes from gas fired power stations. Almost all of the oil and gas extracted from the North Sea in so called UK waters comes from waters that would belong to an independent Scotland(as would about 80% of remaining UK fish stocks)and so the taxes would go to Edinburgh not London as at present. Yet Scots still suffer the most expensive energy costs in the UK which taken as one unit in turn has the most expensive energy costs in the developed world

[@stuartfowler9700]

We have stopped exploiting our natural resources, coal, oil and gas so powerhouse I think not, but we lead in gender legislation so there is hope for us, just joking

[@AzulinhoAzulinho]

@@davidmcintyre8145 it's worse than that. Scotland is providing *over one third* of England's electricity. In the simplest terms, Scotland is directly transferring electricity generated here to England and that supplies over 9% of England's demand. On top of that, ~40% of England's electricity is generated in English gas-fired power stations. Two-thirds of the UK gas supply is Scottish gas. So that is 9% direct, plus about another 26% via our gas, then the final piece of the jigsaw is Welsh generated electricity, 56% of which is gas fired, and although there are no accurate figures, everyone and their dug knows fine well that Wales net-exports plenty of electricity to England. So that is another couple of percentage points of England's electricity supply that's due to Scottish gas. *Scotland is totally milked, and told it is poor by those feeding on it.*

[@AzulinhoAzulinho]

@@stuartfowler9700 what are you talking about? Yes nobody is mining coal but your claim that we are not exploiting our oil and gas is a straight up piece of garbage. Where the F do you think the UK gets its gas, you think 100% of it is imported do you? Embarrassing.

[@seastnanseastnan7765]

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 What does Scotland have? Scotland has only 8.3% of the UK's population. 8.3%! Remember this important figure... 8.3% But we DO have approximately...... 32% of the land area 61% of the sea area 90% of the fresh water. (There is more fresh water in loch Ness than In England and Wales combined!) 65% of the natural gas production 96.5% of the crude oil production 50% of Europe’s Carbon-Capture Storage Area 47% of the open cast coal production 81% of the untapped coal reserves 62% of the timber production 46% of the total forest area 92% of the hydro electric production 40% of the wind wave and solar energy production 60% of the fish landings 30% of the beef herd 20% of the sheep herd 9% of the dairy herd 10% of the pig herd 15% of the cereal holdings 20% of the potato holdings 100% of the Scottish Whisky industry. Then add over 70% of Gin production We have a... 17 billion pound construction industry 13 billion food and drink industry 10 billion business services industry 9.3 billion chemical services industry 9.3 billion tourism industry 7 billion financial services industry 5 billion aeroservice industry 4.5 billion whisky export industry 3.1 billion life sciences industry Scotland still has 350 million pounds worth of textile exports Scotland has opened it’s first Goldmine We have 25% of all Europes wave and wind energy potential with only 1% of Europe's population. We have 1.5 trillion pounds - £1,500,000,000,000 worth of oil and gas reserves. All of this, yet only 8.3% of The UK's population...

[@Deltasquadformingup]

i think Scotland would have similar strength to Denmark or Belgium. It would have a strong economy

[@76ludlow]

It isn't absolutely necessary for a country to be a member of the EU to use the Euro currency. There are several examples right now of states that use the Euro and are not members of the European Union. These include Montenegro and the micro states of Vatican City, Monaco, Andorra, and San Marino.

[@al3xa723]

It's frowned upon, especially for larger countries.

[@rogerbenfield2789]

you miss the point the Scottish people dont want the Euro they want the Pound.

[@76ludlow]

@@rogerbenfield2789 And have the Bank of England dicate economic policies in some future independent Sctland. How does that make sensew? What kind of oindepence would that be?

[@rogerbenfield2789]

@Graeme Roberts NO INDYREF2 Tough luck we won you lost.

[@robduncan599]

@@rogerbenfield2789 politics is a never-ending process. Nothing is set in stone, just like UK could join and leave the European Union. And indeed did both. Just as Northern Ireland and Scotland's Secession from UK is inevitable. Rendering the Dissolution of United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. To become ' The Lesser Brexit Empire of England and Wales ' .

[@jamescairns6413]

Even if we do have to face a few years of hardship, it will certainly be worth it.

[@user-xl8on7sf8o]

What do you call a few years. What do you call hardship. I think you should do a litle research.

[@josephturner7569]

You are wrong about Spain. They have already said it is not a problem.

[@therealrobertbirchall]

True

[@piedrablanca1942]

Scotland case is VERY different from Catalunya, Scots will be wanted back in the EU

[@ULYSSES-31]

Ireland did not choose to join Britain in the act of union. It was forced upon Ireland by Britain and Ireland’s parliament was removed and ruled from London.

[@Mr-Foad]

in 1707 Scotland did not choose either, parliment was closed, riots started ... the "nobles" were coerced and bribed into joining the "union", over 100 military garrisons were installed in scotland to try and stop rebellion and civil unrest. the loyalists/unionists are too dumb and brainwashed to see this....

[@h-Qalziel]

Scotland also technically did not choose to join England, or at least the people didn't, who were not asked by the government whether they wanted to or not. There was outroar on the streets. Even the Scottish government regretted the decision to join and asked to leave the union again a year later, but were refused.

[@davidhoins4588]

But the video is about Scotland not loyalist Scummy northern Ireland, fun fact pro English northern Ireland can never have true independence as it needs the government block grant,

[@ULYSSES-31]

@@davidhoins4588 But the video talks about Ireland, the act of union, and Northern Ireland voting against Brexit. Northern Ireland doesn't have an option for independence: it can stay in the UK or reunify with the rest of Ireland.

[@tiglishnobody8750]

Actually, as Irish. Ireland did vote as most people who vote to join the UK is Catholic in the promise of Catholic rights and dismemberment of Protestant Ascendancy but none have and then by the time of Great Famine, the Irish became disillusioned and want to leave the UK it wasn't by force, it just UK never come to any promise that Irish expect for.

[@jod7633]

Economically we can't do much worse than we are just now shackled to england after brexit. Many businesses are already moving and investing Into Scotland on the premise that we're rejoining the eu. England is in for a big shock when we get independence and they don't have our wealth and riches to prop up and subsidise their economy.

[@Winspur1982]

I suspect you're right. When Boris Johnson can't get affordable fish or single-malt for his 8th wedding, then the Tory party will discover the problem.

[@rogerbenfield2789]

its the opposite their moving out of Scotland, your being spun

[@rogerbenfield2789]

@Graeme Roberts If what you say is true you stand even less of a chance of winning a referendum in 2050 WE WON YOU LOST

[@tenniskinsella7768]

I feel y will be worse off after y have dumped your country. We are one country called great Britain

[@OneTrueScotsman]

Check the news. Scotland gets more foreign investment than any other region of the UK outside of London. @@rogerbenfield2789

[@thomashogg2341]

Almost everyone goes on about how Scottish independence would affect Scotland, the easy and logical thing I suppose, but very rarely do we see the flip side. Could you do an episode about how Scotland leaving the UK would affect the rUK, both economically and geopolitically. Thanks.

[@rogerbenfield2789]

We dont need to Scotland isnt leaving not now not tomorrow not ever wake up its done

[@thomashogg2341]

@@rogerbenfield2789 that's the fear talking isn't it? Scared to find out just how bad things would be for rUK if Scotland did leave?

[@rogerbenfield2789]

@@thomashogg2341 oh Tom, stop being a silly billy , the UK tax payer has been bailing out Scotland for decades. stop pretending, go check your GERS Figures for last year.

[@CortexNewsService]

That would definitely be interesting to learn about. Economically, it would be a blow. They'd survive, but it would trash the economy for a while. Geopolitically it would be REALLY interesting. Barbados recently dropped the monarchy and other Commonwealth nations are looking at doing that as well. That has to have an impact on Britain's diplomatic weight. And having a large part of the core of Britain say see ya, I could see them losing status as a great power. Hell, Scotland is a huge reason why it was able to grow as much as it did in the 19th century.

[@rogerbenfield2789]

when you have answered all the questions about scotland leaving then we need to write about the UK not before because we dont need to.

[@sterlinghartley2165]

The most interesting result, least to me, will be how Scotland leaving with help the rest of the UK leave. NI reunifying with Ireland is getting more and more likely, and they have the explicit right to do so due to the Good Friday agreement. Then you have Cymru (Wales) that's had it's Labour First Minster checking if the Supreme Court ruling also means they can't vote to leave as it basically says the union isn't voluntary or a union of equals. The support for Indy Cymru has been going up for Years, Scotland leaving would be massive for them.

[@JustTheDabster]

And the influence of London will be reduced in Scotland, Wales & NI / Ireland. That can only be a good thing in terms of future prosperity.

[@sharadjain2463]

Love to scotland from India, we will help you to get independence from britain and recognize you.

[@ultramarineapologist]

@@sharadjain2463 no thanks

[@sharadjain2463]

@@ultramarineapologist Are you Scottish or English ?

[@rogerbenfield2789]

its never going to happen

[@leoissomething6603]

9:00 why does basically every channel always forget to include Luxembourg.

[@hghyfyfiugou4448]

Should've made a clarification between the Union of Crowns 1603 and the Acts of Union 1707 rather than the slightly confusing "eventually" with "The Year 1603" in the top left. Since Scotland and England 'united' into one state in 1707, not 1603. The time between was simply having the same monarch ruling over each respective Kingdom. Also, the Spanish Government at the time (2012, Jose Manuel Garcia-Margallo, Spanish foreign minister) said "If the two parts of the United Kingdom are in agreement that it is accord with their constitutional arrangement, written or unwritten, Spain would have nothing to say. We would simply maintain that it does not affect us." He then added "The constitutional arrangements of the United Kingdom are one thing, those of Spain another, and it is their own business if they decide to separate from one another." But when the myth about Spain blocking a Scottish join was blasted from rooftops by unionists he then added, in 2014, that an independent Scotland's admission to the EU "can be considered" as long as the move is "in accordance with the legal and institutional procedures." Then in 2019 the Spanish Minister for Foreign Affairs said that Spain would NOT block Scottish membership if independence was legally achieved and such has ALWAYS been the intention of the Spanish Government. That same foreign minister (Josep Borrel Fontelles) is now the Vice-President of the European Commission and High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy. Spain blocking Scotland's membership is a complete and utter lie.

[@rogerbenfield2789]

but Scotland isnt leaving the UK didn't you know

[@andrewcomerford264]

Scotland's citizenship Exam; Do you want to be a citizen ? Yes. You're in.

[@joshuawells835]

Sounds like Barney's explanation of the Canadian Citizenship Test

[@OneTrueScotsman]

Every age group under 55 support independence. Those under 35, by a two thirds majority. And since the UK supreme court ruled that Scotland has no free will, in the union, and are hostage to an English dominated parliament (85% English lawmakers vs 8% Scottish) in Westminster - the support for Scottish independence has shot up. Every poll out since the verdict shows a large lead for becoming independent. The fact that England's main political parties are also all ignoring the mandate that Scots voted for, for a new referendum (which was a majority of the electorate, when all the independence parties votes are counted together), is not only antidemocratic, but outright insulting. Add that to the fact that the UK government and media are super supportive about Ukraine's right to self-determination and democracy, against an oppressive neighbour. The irony and hypocrisy is not lost on us north of the border. Of all the dozens of countries that celebrate their independence days from British control, not one has asked to come back. Yes, it might be a rough start, but I wonder how many other countries that celebrate their independence from British control regret leaving? How many are really struggling now? We're not just leaving for our generation but for future generations of Scottish people who will have full control over their own affairs, and not tied to an increasingly insular, toxic, neo liberal UK, who, even among those who call themselves "left or centrist" scoff at Scottish people having the right to decide for themselves. As if Scotland is nothing more than an home-extension for England. It's also worth pointing out that by far, more Scots voted to stay in the EU than stay in the UK, between the two referendums. We also have the fact that, throughout most of our history, our country was sovereign. Contrary to what British media would have them believe, most Scots have no ill feelings towards English people. Personally, only those, and there are quite a few, English people who think they have some sort of CLAIM or RIGHT to Scotland, do I have any dislike for. Those who recognize our right to decide for ourselves, are fine in my book. It's only a matter of time until we regain our independence. But I'd rather leave on amicable terms when we do.

[@cmcc3721]

Theres never been a majority for Indy in Scotland. Not before, during or after the referendum and no amount of carefully selected polling, which are only carried out as a result of cash incentives, say otherwise(yeah either side does have to pay to have these polls carried out) Polling companies are businesses and as you'd imagine, they prefer if the results are amenable to those that have financed them. E.g Polling company to Indy campaign groups = "Oh sir. We have some good news for you. Look at these results...Indy is miles ahead. Whole polling system is an absolute joke in the UK. Nobody takes them serious anymore

[@andrewwotherspoona5722]

@@cmcc3721 There is a majority though....just take a look at the combined pro independence parties past two general and Holyrood elections' results. Of the votes cast the majority are in favour of independence. If we use the metric of 50% of the overall population then there was no majority in favour of remaining in the UK in the last referendum! I hate to break this to you but the convention is only held for votes cast. Should people in Scotland neglect to vote in a defacto referendum then their votes should simply not be counted and therefore should have no bearing on the outcome.

[@cmcc3721]

@@andrewwotherspoona5722 Defacto referendum? Complete fantasy. Sturgeon does not have the powers to redefine the meaning of the Scottish electorates vote during a UK general election. It's utter insanity. She knows it and so does the electorate. As for numbers, SNP could only muster 45% of the vote in the 2019 election. In 2022 local elections they could only muster 44.6% of the vote. See a pattern developing here?

[@andrewwotherspoona5722]

@@cmcc3721 I suggest you reread my comment carefully! Also, thanks to the intransigence of the 'supreme court' in permitting a referendum support for independence and the use of the next general election has soared well above 50%. You have only looked at the SNP vote (which alone is standing at 47% in the latest opinion polls)! Also, I don't think she'd suggest using the next GE as a defacto referendum if she didn't think it feasible...in addition, currently all the pro-independence parties are having a congress in Scotland to discuss this matter!

[@firebyrd437]

@@cmcc3721 yougov states otherwise and its owned by a tory

[@enticingmay435]

Scottish independence and Irish unification are just inevitable at this point. The UK’s economy, politics and society is slowly deteriorating, more and more Scottish and Northern Irish will want out and you really can’t blame them.

[@shaaravguha3760]

Scotland currently receives much more from England than it provides (i.e. English taxes pay for their healthcare) so they're going to have to cut back on a lot of their services or increase taxes if they were the leave. Besides that they would also need to rebuild their military infrastructure from scratch which is very hard considering how tiny their economy actually is. (in effect, they're going to become a puppet state at the mercy of England anyways) Another thing is that England makes up more than 50% of their trade so if that is cut off Scotland will suffer way more than England (England can easily subsidise the trade in Europe).

[@cmcc3721]

"inevitable" hahahahahahahahaha. You're either one of those stark bonking mad nationalists or don't even live in Scotland. Believe me, the overwhelming majority couldn't give a rats arse about independence. It just doesnt even get a mention in daily conversation.

[@freedomthroughspirit]

I hope you are right! It sure feels that way to me, too. Cheers to more regional control and identity.

[@benjamincornia7311]

I think you’re right. Scotland would be much better off.

[@kmeanxneth]

@@HowitzerBlitzer i'm pretty sure UN and Nato are bigger than EU

[@Mr-Foad]

You should make a video on what the uk/england will look like after Scotland leaves... no oil, gas, less electricity, less tax payers, no where to store their nuclear weapons, GBP will become even weaker. Potentially people in Wales and NI will see that a wellbeing economy works and will also leave the uk. This will leave england to hopefully reform their totally out of date government and entire system as it clearly is not working. The uk has now got the highest energy bills in the world, brexit, cost of living crisis (aka a depression), transport and health service in chaos, GBP at its lowest ever, food banks, WARM BANKS ! it has had 3 different prime ministers this year alone...total shambles. They deserve better, I really hope they can sort this out and get a government they deserve. Scotland can't really do anything about the above issues whilst in the uk... for that reason i'm out ....

[@kethughes8266]

What will England do without Tunnocks teacakes is just about it.

[@Mr-Foad]

@@kethughes8266 tunnocks can go to hell for all I care, they worked against us… if England has no tunnocks tea cakes it will unfortunately still have all the issues i mentioned until something is done about it.

[@folofus4815]

Just found this channel, great video!

[@seonadunsmuir3444]

Uk never became one country.. always 2 nations, see Scotlands Claim of Right

[@coolpiraterapstar]

This is a great channel

[@ivandinsmore6217]

The people who lived north of Hadrian's wall were not Gaelic. They were Picts.

[@Winspur1982]

Yes, many of them were "picti" (it just meant "painted ones" in Latin, because they used body paint). It's not totally clear what language they spoke. Historical map animations are hard, so I can forgive some oversimplifications🙂

[@johnmaclagan2263]

@@Winspur1982 they spoke Archaic Welsh - the Picts are the ultimate brythonic tribe - ancestors to the Welsh

[@Snagprophet]

@@Winspur1982 The Picts are also thought to the Britonic peoples, speaking languages similar to Welsh, Cornish.

[@redred7289]

The right wing British media has been saying for years how important sovereignty is and how wrong it is for other people to make your laws. I guess it's had an effect on the people of Scotland.

[@AzulinhoAzulinho]

What a fucking ridiculous comment. Very very English.

[@tenniskinsella7768]

The vote to leave the eu was taken by a country called great Britain

[@redred7289]

@@tenniskinsella7768 Scotland and Wales must take back their sovereignty from the unelected bureaucrats in England.

[@OneTrueScotsman]

@@tenniskinsella7768 There is no country called Great Britain. There's the UK which is a state and a union. There's Britain which is an island in the British isles, but it's not a political body with its own government. And Scotland is a country.

[@tenniskinsella7768]

@@OneTrueScotsman often called great Britain though

[@stuartmacdonald9289]

Scotland does not need to " create " its own pound. We have always had the Scottish pound. At the time of the " union " the exchange rate was £12 Scottish to £1 English, however this exchange rate was being set by the English to drive down the Scottish economy and devalue the land.

[@sgrant9814]

Using ur provided link or the name of this you tube cannel i cannot come up with any hits for a podcast when i search podcasts

[@GeographyByGeoff]

Hm weird. The links in the description all worked when I just tried again and when I search What If Geography podcast in KZbin it pops up as well. Are you able to provide me any additional info? Happy to help as much as I'm able!

[@sgrant9814]

If i search in apple's podcast app...your podcasts do not show up...says nothing found. I even switched around phrasing

[@jeranemo5504]

So looking forward to independence. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 let’s do this! 👍

[@ELN355]

As an Englishman....I say yes do so. The thousands of Scots that cross the border into England for work SHOULD NOT be allowed to keep their jobs...They should be given to English people. Fair ?

[@OneTrueScotsman]

@@ELN355 Absolutely. But what should we do about the half a million mostly English retirees in Scotland? They're not contributing to the economy since they're out of work, and they vote against what most of the population wants. There's also many of them who own second homes, and thereby are pricing locals out of home ownership.

[@ELN355]

That's a good point.However I totally disagree with your (not contributing to the economy) statement...How can they NOT be contributing to the economy when they LIVE THERE AND ARE SPENDING MONEY THERE?????? Half a million ???? You do know we have 750,000 SCOTS in England (That's MORE than the population of Edinburgh or Glasgow) A lot of them are doing incredibly well in England thank you very much...However some are staggering around the place with bottles of Buckfast or whiskey.What would you suggest we do with them ? Are you a Scot...? I had the greatest of pleasure, visiting Scotland many many many years ago when I was visiting a friend of mine who had been temporarily put there for work purposes. He was in an area called Bargeddie and he took me to another place called EASTERHOUSE ? To show me. FK me......England has its SHITHOLES but this place was next level. If IF (for me hopefully and it can't come soon enough) Scotland does get it's independence,I sure hope they can sort out that shithole of an area better than it can under English rule. Or that said,has the Scottish parliament forgot about the place ?

[@davehill5105]

Spain has already repeatedly said they would not veto Scotland's entry into the EU

[@kethughes8266]

Agreed the thing that will veto Scotlands entry is it's vast budget deficit.

[@vkgraphics]

In regard to the currency. WM have said in the past they will not let Scotland use the pound sterling, which is going to cause themselves issues too if they still want to trade with Scotland. Given they buy/need our Oil, Gas, Water, Electricity, fish, farming, Whiskey, IRN Bru and so on.....they will be making it hard for themselves, which they clearly like ....see Brexit for example. Scotland does not need England to survive, but the same cant be said for them.

[@jono_cc2258]

Video was going mostly okay until you mentioned Spain, they’ve now had multiple ministers state that if Scotland was to leave the UK by legal means it would not block any application to join.

[@TheBOFAcookie]

The Union owed its birth to a Treaty entered into by Queen Anne as head of state of her separate Kingdoms of England and Scotland. In other words, the Treaty was not concluded by the Parliaments of England and Scotland, although legislative acts of each Parliament followed the conclusion by Queen Anne of that Treaty. David Walker, Regius Professor Emeritus of Law in the University of Glasgow,, 2007

[@lightfootpathfinder8218]

As an Englishman 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 I really don't care anymore if the UK broke up tbh. An independent England would be brilliant 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🦁

[@jontalbot1]

This looks a lot less likely now than it did when this was made. Interesting fact: support for independence varies significantly depending on the question asked. 10% more of Scots will support the question “Should Scotland be an independent country?” then if you ask “Should Scotland leave the United Kingdom”. The other relevant facts are economic not political as correctly identified. The North Sea oil would only be two thirds Scots. The main issue is the end of the Barnett formula. This distributes public money based on need and it means Scotland receives much more public money than it raises in taxes. Independence would require major cuts in public spending.

[@staunch2207]

Scotland Weill get out of their Yoooo Kaaye hostage situation. Also Scotland is a country not a region like those places in Spain , this guy is talking a little bit of dribble.

[@bigozimak]

Scotland is a country that lost its language long ago. Those Spanish REGIONS actually have their own languages, for example, Catalonia, Galicia, and the Basque country. So it kinda makes them more like Nation's than Scotland. No offence.

[@staunch2207]

@@bigozimak The language is still spoken especially in the islands , A young SNP possible leader speaks fluently.I still know a bit as it was unbanned when I was a kid. The only thing keeping it down is England.

[@staunch2207]

@@bigozimak Also the Vatican recognized Scotland as a country before England.

[@bigozimak]

@@staunch2207 I hope you are right mate, because, to me that is exactly what a nation is, the language. I hope there is a resurgence in REAL Scottish, Irish and Welsh. Then you can be really proud. All the best.

[@staunch2207]

@@bigozimak Thanks ! I am right there are still around 20,000 fluent speakers , even I still know a bit but have forgotten most over the years . Lots of of kids learn it in primary in the Highlands. Have a good one matey!

[@JustTheDabster]

Your thumbnail should be "freedom from UK"

[@blackfalcon1324]

Maybe he is not trying to be that overtly opinionated.

[@AzulinhoAzulinho]

No, I congratulate him on his correct thumbnail. Scotland *is* the UK; it is fundamental. The kingdom of Scotland is in union with the Kingdom of England. It is indeed "freedom from England" which is being sought. In a more pedantic mood, I might point out that the St George X should also cover Wales in this case. Ending the 1707 union between Scotland and England, ends the fictional entity of 'the Kingdom of Great Britain' and thus dissolves the UK.

[@JustTheDabster]

@@AzulinhoAzulinho Just semantics really. I was just making the point that the Union did not come about by England conquering Scotland. It's supposedly a voluntary union.

[@davidprimo8236]

The video was great but it's odd to see "Roman England" and "Gaelic peoples" at the beginning

[@JamesMartin-wr8oi]

It's not practical. The nationalists want to blame Westminster for apparently holding society back north of the border, however, the fact remains that the biggest market for products made in Scotland is still primarily n the north of England. There is also the question of respecting basic aspects of British citizenship which should remain in-tact for anyone born and bred in Scotland, especially in relation to the contribution made by many Scots to the British armed services. British pound too. Brexit may be a bit silly, but we can't allow the Nationalists to manipulate the Brexit debacle in favour of yet another Svottish independence referendum.

[@Viktoria_Selene]

I'm from spain, and I wouldn't mind scottland joining the EU, but then again, I'm not the country of spain.

[@Viktoria_Selene]

also better trans healthcare

[@freedomthroughspirit]

As an outsider, I generally like the idea of more regional governments and identities -- both at the state level here in the US and for individual countries. Pros and cons of each, to be sure, but seemingly more cons in the long run/big picture. The era of uniting countries/organizations into monolithic institutions hopefully has peaked. Great video, thank you!

[@JustTheDabster]

The UK is rather unique though, as it is a country of countries.

[@therealrobertbirchall]

So are you going to dismantle the American federal government and let each state run it's own affairs with no oversight? What would happen then if Texas for example invaded New Mexico on the grounds that Texans are more important humans than New Mexicans therfore Texas had the right to occupy any territories it needed. That was the rationale Hitler used to invade Poland, that's why we have the EU, to stop such things happening. And it's why the South lost the American civil war.

[@rogerbenfield2789]

@@therealrobertbirchall they more or less do run their own state. also have different rates of taxes for example.

[@therealrobertbirchall]

@@rogerbenfield2789 but they are limited in their foreign policies and there are federal regulations like some traffic regs and there are also federal taxes and statutes which apply to all states

[@gordonmurray3153]

So, as a Scot, I should have no problem with Canada and Mexico being governed from Washington DC, as we in Scotland are, from London. I'm sure all Canadians and Mexicans would see the many economic benefits, and embrace the opportunity of having Washington rule.

[@SGrahamArt]

Scotland has it's own bank, law, education, health service and very much it's own political leanings which are vastly different to English politics. One is liberal, compassionate and European, the other, in England, is Conservative, isolationist and far from compassionate. It's obvious that we're going to go it alone. The only question now is when it'll happen.

[@Cal_lum]

This isnt true, the UKs central bank is the bank of England. The SNPs policy may appear ‘compassionate” on the surface but in reality is is unsustainable, impractical and unfair to many as well as being increasingly authoritarian.

[@SGrahamArt]

@@Cal_lum o...k..... You look at the current UK government and conclude that it's the SNP who are 'authoritarian', 'unsustainable' and, weirdly, 'impractical'. Not sure what that last one is referring to, but yeah. ok. whatever.

[@Winspur1982]

You're right about the compassion. When I lived in Scotland, I found most people to be compassionate in a way English people weren't. I don't think you can plot this out on a left-right spectrum. If Voltaire really said what this video said he said about Scottish ideas, the humanism should be one of the big ones.

[@grzegorzha.]

8:35 you can have the Euro without joining the EU. Hell, if you're especially stubborn, you can adopt the Euro without the EU even agreeing!

[@kethughes8266]

You could keep the pound without agreement and not have conversion expenses.The problem Euro or pound is that you lose any control over fiscal policy.

[@grzegorzha.]

@@kethughes8266 yeah but with the pound you give control to your ex overlord. With the Euro you give control to your future partner.

[@kethughes8266]

@@grzegorzha. The UK has never gone to the Scots , who have one of the biggest budget deficits in Europe, and said do as we tell you or we will turn off the money supply.Which is exactly what the EU did to Greece.

[@johnnicolson467]

Its not if Scotland becomes Independent its when and most people want it soon. there has been a lot of lies from Westminster and its so obvious now that polls have shown 50%- 60% for over two years want Scotland to leave the UK.

[@darthdemoned7896]

No they havent, not a single vote has shown that except for may of 2020 where a poll too leave reached a peak yes vote of 53%, since then it has been a no majority remaining at a steady 53% no since 2020, if u wanna leave cool but stop spreading misinformation

[@sduggan34]

From the beginning, the Acts of Union of 1604 and 1707, the Scottish Stewart monarchy of King James et al plunged England into two civil wars in the 1640s which had a higher attrition rate than WW1 as well as the mass emigration of protestant settlers to Ulster whose consequences are still with us today. It would have been better if both nations had remained independent.

[@porcupineinapettingzoo]

Madrid has no issue with Scotland becoming independent as they see Scotland entering a union and leaving a union, whereas the anti independence Spanish people say that, unlike Scotland, the likes of the Basque country were never independent and are asking for something that never existed.

[@jacobkilstrom]

How often does an independent country highly want to rejoin the country it has breaked away from nowadays?

[@chriscunningham7155]

Interesting video and I understand you have not given time to go more in depth, due to making this a 10 minutes piece. There are many other considerations which you have not highlighted and the English Parliament don't want Scots to know. That might make an interesting follow-up for you to do. Scotland leads the way in renewables and currently, through green energy produces 135% of required power for Scotland, meaning we could cover national needs and have 35% of production to sell abroad. At present the power generated goes into the UK melting pot (which it should as a union) but Scots, geographically and socially are left with the highest power costs in the UK. We are only at the beginning of renewable technology as we currently do not operate full wind or sea generation because we are unable to store this at the moment, so only generate what we currently use. This is only one aspect of many that Scots would benefit from independence.

[@roberttewnion1690]

We will get our independence one day soon. England is dragging its heels but they can't put it off forever.

[@allrounder7003]

There is no current Labour government in the UK, unfortunately.

[@SpartasEdge]

3:53 You forgot to mention the Wales also voted to leave the EU, not just the UK, and that the Scots were told in the year before the Scottish referendum (by the Scottish government themselves), that voting to remain in the UK, would likeky nean leaving the EU.

[@New-ye2fl]

Sorry when did the Scottish government say that? Can you link me to any Scottishbritish msm outlets that posted content publicly to the Scottish electorate saying this? Done a google search, can’t find anything.

[@SpartasEdge]

@@New-ye2fl Well,I'm glad you asked, and you obviously didn't look very well enough. In November 2013 (well BEFORE the Scottish referendum) the Scottish government at the time and still is at time of writing this (The SNP) published a document called 'Scotlands future', Released for anyone and everyone to read and download, which was written by the SNP and Scotlands first minister and SNP leader, Alex Salmond, which said (and i quote) ""The debate we are engaged in as a nation is about the future of all of us lucky enough to live in this diverse and vibrant country. It is a rare and precious moment in the history of Scotland - a once in a generation opportunity to chart a better way. " As well as saying: ""If we vote No. Scotland stands still. A once in a generation opportunity to follow a different path, and choose a new and better direction for our nation, is lost. " The document also goes on to refer to the then upcoming EU referendum, when asked question 266 in the Q&A section, the question being (and i quote) "What impact will the Conservatives Party proposal to have a UK referendum on EU membership have?" He answered by saying (and i quote) ""It is the view of the current Scottish Government, that the only real risk to Scotland's membership of the EU, is the Referendum proposed by the Prime Minister. " ""The Scottish Government does not wish Scotland to leave the EU and does not support the Prime Minister's plans to hold an in-out referendum on EU membership." ""Following a vote for independence, Scotland will become an independent EU member state before the planned in-out referendum on the EU in 2017. However, if we do not become independent, we risk being taken out of the EU against our will. " Not only does the SNP state that they wanted to deny people be given the democratic vote/choice on whether they want to be in the EU or not, also take note of the part that states "However, if we do not become independent, we risk being taken out of the EU". In doing that, they clearly acknowledged that they knew that remaining in the UK could mean leaving the EU, so any claim that they didn't know that remaining in the UK could mean leaving the EU, is spurious. They publicly announced this, and most significantly as i say, stated this publicly well BEFORE the Scottish referendum. This was all in this open document, that the SNP had put forward as it's argument for independence, so no-one can say that there wasn't warning. It's funny that the the SNP use this as an argument, when they THEMSELVES stated that remaining in the UK could mean leaving the EU, and they were happy to state this when they thought this might work in their favour, but didn't mention it again when the referendum didn't go their way and they needed any old excuse to have another referendum again, even if that claim was based on a falsity, that didn't seem to matter to them.. KZbin doesn't do outside links, but if you give me somewhere to post you the link to, i am happy to do so; i also saved the whole thing in PDF; or you can can just type in 'Scot dot Gov Scotlands future' (the symbol dot, not the word) it's easy enough to find. I will also point out that anyone who voted to leave the UK in the 2014 referendum, would in fact be voting to LEAVE the EU, because they would be voting to leave the UK, which was in the EU, so for that reason also, this notion that they 'didn't know it meant leaving the EU' doesn't wash, because Scotland leaving the UK, would have resulted in leaving the EU, probably even sooner than the UK leaving the EU, and that's what they were voting for when they voted to leave the UK.

[@New-ye2fl]

@@SpartasEdge No one read that shit 😆 Can you link me to any msm pushing the idea we’d be leaving the EU? I mean better together while thing was “” the only way to protect your EU membership is to vote for the union “” Yes Scotland would have left the EU,with the intention of rejoining as an independent country, which was said a million times, not some small print in some bullshit QndA no one’s every heard of 😆

[@SpartasEdge]

@@New-ye2fl If they didn't read it, that's their own fault and ignorance then! Lol Whether they decided to read it or not id their lookout, the point is, they were told 🙌 Re-join the EU? Really?.... Does Scotland have the qualifying GDP to join the EU New?.. Also, even if that wasn't a problem, it's application wouid likely be veto'd, by Spain at the very least, keep dreaming Lol What country are you a citizen of New?

[@jimso771]

@@SpartasEdge Absolute nonsense, the Scottish people were informed by all the unionist parties that the only way for Scotland to guarantee remaining in the EU was to vote no in the referendum so get your facts straight before you make a comment.

[@cl8804]

damn, you're good at this

[@firebyrd437]

Where do I start, history first, the act of union was signed under duress and bribery, the Darrien scheme landowners put money into failed because English ships were blockading supplies to the colony and resupplying those people who had gone their was impossible, therefore those landowners were bankrupted, at the same time England put a blockade on Scotland, banned trade between the 2 nations and amassed an army ready to invade if the act of union wasn't passed in the Scottish Parliament. Several landowners were bribed to sign the act, which they did, when people found out what they had done their were violent riots, one English spy, Daniel Defeo that author stated for every 1 in favour of the union 99 are against and there's nothing so bad as a Scottish rabble. The real reason though for the act of union was to ensure a Catholic monarch could never be crowned in Scotland , at that time there was the old pretender living in exile in France and his son bonnie prince Charlie who had a direct line of succession but they were Catholics, in act 2 of the act of union it specifically says that Catholics cannot succeed to the monarchy and the Protestant line must be adhered to. No sooner that the ink dried on the act of union Englush troops were station pretty much in all over Scotland to ensure no armed revolt happened, unfortunately there would be battles trying to reclaim independence, there were a few victories but by the battle of Colloden where most of those fighting died, independence died with it. The brutality of those days was shocking, traditional Scots wear was banned, no man could wear the kilt, several violent events instigated by waring clans who either supported England or Scotland led to the death of the clan system and way of life, the Campbells were the worst offenders. There was a referendum in the on independence when Thatcher was in power, it stipulated that it needed 40% of all voters to vote yes and although yes won it was less than the 40% and was dropped, the second referendum the no vote won however there was evidence of tampering caught on video, there was yes votes piled high on the no table and a man was sitting crossing no on blank ballot papers at the count of the ballots, an investigation was called for but was ignored. The currency issue is simply solved, the pound was the currency before the act of union anyway, since we mint our own currency at the moment we could mint it after independence, we certainly don't need to keep using sterling and could float our currency on the market as we have a Scottish Bank, no one can stop a country using sterling, its an internationally recognised currency we would use if trading with England, Spain has already stated they would not veto Scotlands applications to join the EU, there are reasons for that, firstly they dislike the English because of Gibraltar, Scotland has excellent fishing grounds and Scotland is a country not a region like Catalonia. Scotland produces 92% of renewable energy for Scotlands needs, at the moment it goes into the national grid which means we get no benefit for our innovation and it costs us more in energy costs than the other countries in Britian, we have excellent resources, a thriving production sector, tourism as well as a financial centre, currently business leaders in Scotland are meeting to discuss their needs in an independent Scotland which is a sign that perhaps even they have realised that since leaving the EU they've decided their side of the bed isn't that good now. A plebiscite independence election is now being considered since the Supreme Court ruling that Scotland does not have the power to hold a referendum can't be the route out of the union, polls have increased support for independence since that ruling,

[@jeranemo5504]

SD Scottish Dollar has a nice ring to it. The investment would be there. Any company that leaves, the void would be filled, it would present an opportunity for other businesses. Let’s do this 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@Glasgow_kiss]

oh god, the catalonia argument that has been debunked to hell.

[@joshuawells835]

Another question of great importance-government. What kind of government would an independent Scotland have? Would Scotland retain Charles III as King or abolish the monarchy and become a republic? This is something that is not talked much about with the Independence Movement, but seems to be the biggest question.

[@Cal_lum]

We would retain the monarchy, but not to worry Scotland will never become independent

[@AAAJZA]

@@Cal_lum you should worry old man

[@OneTrueScotsman]

Yes we will. And no the monarchy will go soon after. You'll be doubly devastated, I imagine. @@Cal_lum

[@OneTrueScotsman]

Most Scots oppose the monarchy. The most recent poll had support for them in the mid 30s. I think my fellow republicans need to make a clear, simple case for what would replace the monarchy though. Most people don't like the monarchy, but are unclear or unenthusiastic about what would replace it. It's like they know it's shit, but can't imagine something better. But there's lots of good potential replacements. I prefer the Irish presidency style. Cheap, not flashy, has a limited role and that's it.

[@joshuawells835]

@@OneTrueScotsman Sounds similar to why the Australian Referendum in 1999 failed, not because of lack of support for a republic, but lack of enthusiasm for the proposed model, which the media deemed "the Politicians' Republic."

[@mayamar529]

A positive referendum result wouldn't mean that Scotland leaves the next day. That would only be the starting point to organize and negotiate the future.

[@CrowleyBlack2]

8:00 Still go for Scottish dollar.

[@ringedrussiatheanimator]

I support scotland

[@doreenhollywood7459]

Scotland has a Claim of Right.

[@user-eb1sd2vj9r]

Scotland doesn’t have to be “free” of England as it was not conquered by England. It voluntarily dissolved its independent parliament and joined with England and Wales to form a single nation-state in 1707.

[@oorrossie]

IMO political channels need to stop using the term Scexit. It's a weird attempt to portmanteau two things that carries a negative political weight that isn't really befitting to a neutral video and isn't actually used in the relevant areas (scotland and the UK). Independence is the neutral proposal being debated in Scotland, Brexit is a separate past occurrence which carries negative weight. If you're trying to be impartial in presenting the two sides Scottish Independence is the term to use.

[@kevinkevin-ug9po]

Stop using the word sexcit, its not smart or right, its Scottish Independence. We should have no connection with that brexit mess.

[@thefearlessshaheen2366]

The Scots could demand greater autonomy from London.

[@AAAJZA]

we've tried that but got hardly anything

[@kethughes8266]

@@AAAJZA Someone got a campervan out of it.

[@bigozimak]

Be careful what you wish for and if it ain't broke don't try to fix it are two things that immediately come to mind. But I'm not Scottish so idk.

[@AAAJZA]

everything is broken and leaving will fix it

[@OneTrueScotsman]

It's VERY broken. But you say you're not Scottish, so it's fine not to understand that.

[@qpwodkgh2010]

Sure, if that's what they want, I'm good for it. Not that I count that is.

[@jasperliew1030]

Scotland should revoke and go independent Northern Island should revoke and go independent Wales should revoke and go independent

[@drgjenkins4361]

Wales voted to leave the EU also. You only mentioned Wales once! Also, Scotland will not leave England, it cannot leave England. It would leave the United Kingdom (which is Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland). Without Scotlands Union to the United Kingdom, they would not have gone through the same NHS creation (which by the way, was led by a 'Welsh' man, but nobody ever mentions that).

[@OneTrueScotsman]

You are aware that most of the developed world has an NHS right? There's nothing special about ours that Scotland couldn't have created for themselves if they were sovereign. What an idiotic point.

[@ianyoung6881]

To talk about „Scottish Independence“ is using the language of colonialism for a situation where the parliaments of the Kingdom of England and the Kingdom of Scotland both voted to join in political union and now one party wants that Union broken. Personally I think all citizens of the UK should have the right of self determination and the right to vote of the future of the Union. It’s not comparable to the UK leaving the EU, as the EU continues to exist without the UK, but there can be no UK once the Act Of Union is reversed.

[@AzulinhoAzulinho]

You might as well have said: "I am a complete fucking tosser".

[@AAAJZA]

they didn't vote our treacherous monarch joined england thanks to the english line dying out

[@OneTrueScotsman]

Scotland didn't vote to join. A few wealthy lairds voted to sell our country to England. Just five years after the union was formed in 1712, every single Scottish MP in Westminster voted to leave the UK, but the overwhelmingly English parliament refused the bill.

[@newpeasantsrevolt]

Scotland in 2014 if went independant would have been bankrupt almost immediately as the wholesale oil price plummets from $110 a barrel to a few tens of dollars. During Covid and in the banking collapse in 2008 the Bank of England bailed out the Scottish banks. If Scotland went independent it would still be dependent on the Bank of England, then a foreign bank. Scots are if anything sensible enough when push comes to shove not to be financially decimated. Scotland trades 4x more with England than the EU. Head should always rule heart.

[@robduncan599]

Only trade works both ways ! England will boycott Scottish oil , gas and renewable energy from a newly independent Scotland? No i didn't think so either . England not only will lose energy rich Scotland. They will be energy poor . Much poorer than now . This Brexit Empire UK , will continue to crumble with Northern Ireland and Scotland's Secession, the Brexit Empire will have to survive without Scotland and Northern Ireland and be e en more isolated than it is now . With 'Lesser Britain ' / England and Wales, on a divergence path away from the European Union with depleted energy resources, a independent Scotland will for sure need to find it feet , at the same time Lesser Britain/ England and Wales will have it's energy resources feet cut off . Can a England and Wales /Lesser Britain on a diverging path away from the European Union thrive? Can England even survive without Scotland? I ask that as a serious question? As north sea oil bankrolled Thatcher in the 80s

[@AAAJZA]

england takes most of our energy for free and we get nothing for it. it's the british system that went bankrupt

[@hashburystumble8808]

A currency issuer cannot go bankrupt hence the UK Treasury uses quantitive easing to put more money into circulation. All done digitally.

[@OneTrueScotsman]

Kind of like how the UK is massively in debt. It's debt exceeds its entire GDP. And despite this, what has the UK got to show for being in debt? A crumbling infrastructure. Shit public services. Shit education system. Shit crime rates. Shit poverty rates. Shit housing market. Shit stagnant wages since 2008. Shit energy prices. Shit inflation rate compared to other countries. And far worse trading situation than we had in 2014. Scotland absolutely made the wrong decision in 2014, and now we're literally paying for it.

[@etiennee9813]

So... 1) Currency - an Independent Scotland, using its $330,000-per-Citizen Oil/ Gas Reserves value as a Sovereign Fund [as Norway already does] can monetize this asset in the form of Crypto Currency. Like Nicaragua does. Citizens get a "Private Key" to access their "Wallet" of value. Really: What is "currency" after-all? 2) EU membership ⚫️ "Black-ball" by Spain. Propose a Scotland-Catalonia "Common-Market" right-out-of-the-chute. France & Germany did this with a "Coal Union" in the 1950s. It led to the Common Market; & that led to the European Union. 3) Brexit was wrong-headed from the get-go. Scotland no longer needs to genuflect to Kolonialists in London. 4) Ireland/Eire won its independence the Hard Way. "United Kingdom" is aspirational: Not a Reality. 5) "United States" also ceased to exist following Bush v Gore in 2000 A.D.

[@oa1986]

Would Scotland have its own king and if so who would it be ?

[@Snagprophet]

Charles III

[@lovelybitofbugle219]

No they wouldn't have a king. They hate the royals anyway.

[@halfwayloyal]

Steve Clarke

[@AAAJZA]

we'd make rhod gilbert scottish

[@OneTrueScotsman]

We'd probably scrap the monarchy soon after we leave the UK. Most Scots don't support the monarchy. Just 33% according to a recent poll.

[@nicholaswalker3230]

You have to check out which Acts are still on the books. The main opposition to overcome is that the monarch retains Dominion over Scotland.. check out the law's that pertain to the monarch retaining Dominion. You have to not blindly look at the contemporary view, you must look at the laws that are Enshrined in the well established and well debated laws.

[@colinhanson3989]

If Scotland did leave the United Kingdom, who will be the head of state of the country? Should Scotland remain part of the Commonwealth Realm like Canada, be its own kingdom like the Netherlands, or be a republic like Ireland? An independent Scotland can open up a lot of questions.

[@AAAJZA]

the Scottish monarchy combined with the english so I doubt we'd go back to monarchies

[@OneTrueScotsman]

@@AAAJZA Not likely most Scots don't support the monarchy. According to a recent poll, support is in the mid 30s. Compared to England where it's around 55-60%

[@trismica]

scots of the world unite with freedom not opresion long live Alba

[@jasperliew1030]

Scotland must go independent. Northern Island should go Independent Wales should go Independent

[@Joanna-il2ur]

It should be termed Jocksit.

[@jamesjenner8159]

Try getting your facts right pal. When the Romans invadad Britain neither England or Scotland existed and the Anglo-Saxons (English) invaded Britain after the Romans left.

[@bullseyecooper1739]

Just an important point, England doesn’t have its own parliament or government, England is under the dominion of the British government and parliament! England is the last significant territory of the “British Empire” and they won’t let it go without a fight!

[@michaelhayes4537]

How does King Charles III feel about Scottish independence? He may want to ride north with bowmen and infantry to quill any Scottish rebels.

[@tenniskinsella7768]

Michael Hayes. Sarcastic comment

[@michaelhayes4537]

@@tenniskinsella7768 yes

[@trevm1268]

There will be 100 years of fighting about who gets to keep the wall 😉

[@walkaboutgla]

Scotland never asked for the union we invented by the way. Scotland in every single way is independent right now. We run everything under our government. What we dont have is the other 98% of our annual wealth back from england.. an it was a Scottish king of all lands invented united kingdom. An scottish king invented the flag.

[@Daddyclive]

Better to have a Referendum to decide if England should stay in the United Kingdom. Most of the people who live in England, including many Scots would vote to leave.

[@OneTrueScotsman]

I don't care how it happens, as long as it does. However, it should only be a vote on their own country's status. For instance, Wales shouldn't be able to vote Scotland out, or England vote out Northern ireland, etc. It's about what we want for ourselves, not who we want to evict. I want nothing more for Scotland than what England has. A government accountable to us, and not one chosen for us by our neighbour, that vetos local bills in Scotland, that doesn't affect England, simply because they Tories are bigots.

[@668725]

Scotland took 19 billion off the uk last year and Northern Ireland got 13 billion once you have answered this question and what currency you will use because you're not using the pound, also you won't get the euro because off your huge deficits, so dream on .

[@michaelbindner9883]

If Scotland and N. Ireland joined with Ireland, they would be in the EU automatically. The only remaining question is Wales.

[@JustTheDabster]

Scotland & Ireland are brothers / sisters, but we're not going to share the same house. Scotland will some day be independent, and Ireland will be one country. (Just about) every country in the world seems to go back to being how it used to be.

[@georgecollins2412]

The Shetland Islands and The Orkney Islands could leave Scotland and become a part of Norway

[@hashburystumble8808]

No they could not. Neither have that option under any jurisdiction or international law.

[@alst4817]

Please change the title. Scottish independence has nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit. The term scexit was only ever used by a small number of London based media after the Brexit vote, and a few years after the unsuccessful Scottish independence referendum. Imagine calling American independence Amexit and you’ll get how annoying it is

[@danieldipalma704]

Scotland should become its own independent country!

[@Kate-nt6bj]

Hmmm... your research wasn't as thorough as it should have been, or you'd have known - much of the work of how an Indy Scotland would work, has already been done, ie CommonWeal, & by Tim Rideout on Currency, a Constitution is being written by Sara Salyers etc. Your non-reporting on this work being done, would seem to suggest you aren't keen to report fairly or honestly. For one, the question of joining the EU. Did you mention there are new Independence parties that have other ideas? SNP have put policies in place which the Scots didn't vote for. Thousands of women (and men who support them) will no longer be voting for that SNP party. So you have to ask yourself - will SNP & their 'white papers' with their choices of independent policies, even be relevant when Indy comes? And so that brings me to the question of Indy Scotland joining the EU - the new ALBA Independence party's policy is to join EFTA, which can be done within a COUPLE OF WEEKS. (YES, the work has been done on this by SSRG & Dr Mark McNaught, already and has been told by EFTA an Indy Scotland will be welcome! They just have to be capable of signing Trade Agreements independently without hindrance by any other govt. Being in EFTA will allow Scotland to start trading in a relatively quick time, we will be able to join the Customs Union & the Single Market & can choose what other pieces of the EU policy we wish to join. There are 4 other countries in EFTA, ALL of which have stated iScotland would be welcome. And in the fullness of time, IF Scots indicate they wish to rejoin the EU, then it will be for Scotland to have a Ref & see whether that is still SCOTLAND'S choice. Scotland is ALREADY fairly EU compliant. If they hadn't been, UK would not have gotten into the EU! And we are still capable of catching up with criteria fairly quickly. The word is that it may take about 4/5 years but only b/c we will have to negotiate our own entry position & choices - not because we will be REFUSED ENTRY. Which takes me to another point. ANOTHER ERROR in your report - Spain has never said they would not accept Scotland into the EU. That is a TOTAL FALLACY put about by the English unionists in collusion with Mr Gonzales Ponz, a member of the People's Party & a Spanish MEP, who was in NO position to & had no right to spread such nonsense but designed by a desperate WM to spread fear through a population of Scotland who preferred to be in the EU. And I could evidence that statement if I was able to put photos up of the letter giving the position of Spanish Minister of Foreign Affair and Security Policy , Mr Josep Borell - who said, "Spain would NOT BLOCK SCOTLAND IF THE INDEPENDENCE IS LEGALLY ACHIEVED AND SUCH HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE INTENTION OF THE SPANISH GOVERNMENT". And who went on to say that the European union is joined if the economic and political conditions required by the treaties that regulate it, are fulfilled. Signed: Miguel Angel Vecino Quintana for the Spanish government. You have also given a false position re Currency in an independent Scotland. SNP party asked their member, Dr Timothy Rideout, to set up a Currency Group to explore the possibilities of Scotland using her own currency in as quickly a fashion as possible after the date of Indy. Dr Rideout & his group have all the paperwork done, showing a new currency can be put into operation WITHIN WEEKS without ANY problems of going into debt & they have also got the the makings of a Reserve Bank all ready to go. The Group presented their findings to the SNP Conference in 2019 where it was passed by acclaim and Scotgov's chosen timing of 'implementing it 'within years' was voted down. You should also check out a VERY EMINENT and WORLD RESPECTED Professor Richard Murphy who has written extensively about the financial aspect of an independent Scotland & who makes it very clear that Scotland can WELL AFFORD to be independent! You can't be taken seriously unless you present ALL sides of an issue. Listening to your podcast, it sounds as though you simply listened to the unionists side of the story & didn't bother to do any research as to the work being done by people who are invested in the preparation of an independent Scotland and making sure Scotland's re-emergence as an independent country will go ahead with as little trouble as possible. There WILL be some problems - that's inevitable. And there's 320 years of tangled policies to negotiate with WM. But Scotland already has it's own judicial system, it's own education system and it's own National Health Service (it simply gets some of it's own revenue back as funding for it), and have their own Councils that already work for the communities. A Tax System designed to keep Scottish Revenue in Scotland, will have to be put in place but the collection is already a Scottish thing. Much of the infrastructure of a Scottish independent country is ALREADY IN PLACE. So it isn't going to be the 'biggie' that some people imagine. No... it won't be the simplest thing, but won't be as big as WM wants to make it, either!! And a task being difficult or time consuming, doesn't make that task not worth doing. Over half the population of Scots are willing to do what it takes, to be able to make our own choices & not have to live under England's choices. We are NOT England, we don't THINK like England, don't have the same values as England & we wish to live according to OUR OWN choices & decisions. As I am prone to saying, 'We want a vote that counts, a voice at EVERY negotiation table, and a VETO if we don't want to do something - none of which we have at the moment. INDEPENDENDENCE IS NORMAL.

[@AzulinhoAzulinho]

It was too long a comment for anyone to react to or read fully, but indeed his research fell a long way short - it was British level. Okay, I didn't expect (but did hope for) better. Clearly it's preposterous to suggest Scotland is somehow poor when it's obviously very very rich. Let these morons pontificate, all of them are clueless. And not one of these morons has a vote! Thank F.

[@jasonmudgarde286]

Spain/catalonia vs Scotland? Scotland is an older country than England ( 9th century (King McAlpine) . Scotland's 18th Century ruling class were forced to agree a Union (against the will of the people, who demonstrated against it) after a failed economic venture .Much as I support Catalonia, there's little comparison. Polls show Scotland will be independent soon, talk of future currency, EU etc is irrelevant! #indyref2

[@alistaircampbell4446]

We'll go into EFTA immediately after independence and share in their trade deals with the EU etc.

[@kevinmccabe7263]

I don't think your Spain argument carries water. Spain wouldn't piss off every one of it's European allies for petty reasons.

[@kethughes8266]

Because of course all the other countries of Europe care so deeply about Scotland.

[@margaretdundas680]

Damn tooting Scotland needs and wants INDEPENDENCE ❤❤IT

[@kellymotion3475]

As a Scottish women from Edinburgh I can honestly say we are ready to leave England's grip on us and how they treat us we Do not need England England needs us its sad to think of the union being broken but England let us no choice to ask for another referendum.

[@phillip7436]

Thanks for that, I’m Welsh by the way from Swansea 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 I think your totally wrong, I know we all want to beat the English more than anything “ I love my rugby “ but Scotland years ago would have been rich with all the riches in the North Sea but……that has all been plundered and incase you haven’t heard FOSSIL FUELS ARE A NO NO NOW !!! How I see it Scotland now only has its hospitality and loads and loads of coffee shops…. Wales would also struggle without England and that is a shame but I am a Royalist so I’m happy to stay as the UNITED KINGDOM 🇬🇧🤪🤪🤪😀❤️👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿😘😘😘

[@Snagprophet]

@@phillip7436 I found the Welsh independence movement rather amusing as well. Particularly when the situation can be compared to the Dakotas in the US, i.e. south Wales is pegged to the southern English M4 corridor while the north is pegged to the northern English city corridor with Liverpool and Manchester.

[@Chris-xl6pd]

What will happen will happen, the funniest thing about it all is that if Scotland really wanted independence they should put the vote to the UK to ask if we want them out. For wrong or right reasons theyd be sent packing instantly.

[@graemeglass7566]

Unionists carp on about the deficit Scotland would have on leaving the UK. The UK Deficit is about £17 Billion and Scotland would be expected to take a population ratio share of the deficit on leaving. That equates to £1.5 Billion (8.5% ) What Unionists don't speak about is the UK Assets which Scotland has contributed to over the past 300 years. The UK National Assets sit at over £13 Trillion. Surely if Scotland leaves the UK and has to take a share of the deficit, then Scotland should should also receive a 8.5% of the Assets. That would be £1.15+ Trillion. Makes you think, doesn't it!! And by the way much of the deficit is owned by Pension Funds and Investment Banks, Premium Bonds etc. So transferring the debt (deficit) is not practicable in a pure monetary sense.

[@stuartallars6209]

This aged badly 😂

[@imck357]

If Scotland is a liability as little Englanders often claim then why do they hate sturgeon who'd lift this " burden" from them ?

[@AzulinhoAzulinho]

Plenty of us in the independence movement knew that Sturgeon was a British asset at least 3 years ago. But nobody outside Scotland would know that, I suppose.

[@walkaboutgla]

Why is there not what will happen to england after Scottish independence. . Scottish people dont move to england or outside of Scotland. After indy. There would be a hard boarder to england. Indy means your Scottish. Were already Scottish. An all European businesses are in Scotland an still building till this day cause were leaving england. The sterling is Scottish. What currency will englsnd use after the scottish sterling is no longer in england

[@DipakBose-bq1vv]

Scotland is the best part of the UK. Scottish people are very sweet people. The UK will lose a lot and will be a rough and rude country if Scotland leaves the UK.

[@ianmacrae2710]

Scotland can't become 'independent from the United Kingdom'. By definition becoming independent means you cease to be a colony so if Scotland becomes independent it has removed itself from English colonial rule and the United Kingdom is a misnomer. On the other hand, if the United Kingdom (as we are led to believe) is a voluntary political union formed between the independent and sovereign states of Scotland and England in 1707, then Scotland is currently independent and has merely lent some of its sovereignty to the union. If the union is indeed voluntary Scotland can remove itself from the union whenever it wishes. This would therefore result in the dissolution of the United Kingdom. So Scotland can do one of two things; it can either dissolve the union, or it can cease to be an English colony but it cannot become independent from the United Kingdom - this is a contradiction in terms.

[@cjryan88]

the oil is not scotlands its the Kings and most of the northern islands want to stay in britian

[@AzulinhoAzulinho]

Nonsense. Learn what "the Crown" means in Scotland. Stop embarrassing yourself.

[@501sqn3]

scotlAnd and wales will Both become independent in approx 50 to 70 years. Whether they want to be or not!!.