You hit this on the head - feels like i have subconscious deck of cards for different egos to play at hand for different situations that are required
@talkingpsychology4 ай бұрын
This a great video also I do believe that schizoid exhibitionism is far more common than health care professionals estimate as the persona of the schizoid misleads them.
@SchizoidVision4 ай бұрын
I was thinking something along these lines. It's such an undercover condtion for many people who have it.
4 ай бұрын
Wow, your video has completely explained to me why I was the "class clown" or "class jerk" dependent on which group of "normies" you were talking to. As you mentioned, exhibitionism seems non-sequitor to the description of a schizoid but the way you've explained it makes perfect sense. OBTW, I'm a somewhat high functioning, primary schizoid. I only found out by accident when I had a thorough testing by a competent psychologist at age 63. In her report she wrote that I have multiple Schizoid personality traits. She said that since my traits weren't (very) debilitating, I wouldn't receive an SPD diagnosis. She said it would help me understand my behaviors better though . And it has. Over the past three months I have sponged all the info about SPD I can find. I even bought the Guntrip book and am wading through it carefully. However, your videos have probably been the best help for me.
@SchizoidVision4 ай бұрын
I hear you. There are many aspects of the schizoid condition that aren't discussed, reading Guntrip is a good way to get a deeper understanding. Good to know this made sense to you and that this type of content has been helpful.
@davidwilson65774 ай бұрын
@@SchizoidVision I think most people would add a 'thank you for the compliment' in there; he just said you're more useful than _the academic pinnacle of SPD publications._ That's _the_ book, right? Only pointing this out because I'm not sure you quite picked up on how much of a compliment that is. Yay you. Haven't read the book to compare but also, thank you for making this channel, learning all of this and sharing it in a personable way. You are adding value, the number of good to bad things in this world ticks up, thanks to you.
@trickcompany4 ай бұрын
I'm constantly on stage and that's exactly how I feel, exhausted and stressed. If you're always just an actor, it leads to extreme side effects over a long period of time. But I also notice that through artistic activity I come at least a little closer to what I cannot express otherwise. Humor also helps, but this is not expressed through jokes etc but rather through artistic works. It still doesn't get to the core of the problem, if there is a strong emotional barrier, I wonder how it can be overcome. What I also find funny about myself is that I sometimes think I can't be schizoid because the clinical term as it appears in most textbooks doesn't include exhibitionism. I can talk to people, do things, speak in front of people, etc. but I notice that I can't keep up with my emotions at all and I feel completely overwhelmed. In my studies we currently have a course that deals with psychology. I wanted to talk about SPD, but I'm a little afraid that if I do that, people will see me as someone else, no longer the constantly funny one, but rather someone who is vulnerable and frightened...
@SchizoidVision4 ай бұрын
I hear you. WIth the DSM Criteria, they leave out a lot of the subjective experiences of people with schizoid dynamics and don't cover all of the manifestations of the condition. I also find humour helps. I get why you may be reluctant to talk about SPD (especially in relation to yourself), it's not a very widely understood condition , or properly represented condition in psychology, so many people can't really get their heads around it, and this can lead to misperceptions.
@Karl-em6op3 ай бұрын
So very clear. Thank you. Part of the problem might be the baggage that comes with the term 'exhibitionism'. It's invariably deprecatory rather than merely descriptive, in the English language. Because I can't do dynamic 'dialogue' which includes emotional exchange, I'm really grateful that I can put all my emotional eggs in a basket and just hand it over! I don't get nervous about public speaking (once I start..), but can get the butterflies briefly beforehand. Thanks again.
@Peter_0804 ай бұрын
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for having proposed this aspect which is unknown and denied by many, even by many Schizoids. This unconsciously exhibitionistic aspect seems to me to be a direct consequence of the narcissistic portion present in every Schizoid. Not all Schizoids bring out the exhibitionistic aspect, but those who can (subjects of high intellectual or professional profile, people of evidently dazzling aesthetics) narcissistically exhibit their qualities in my opinion precisely to justify their own solitude/autonomy/superiority. I repeat, not all Schizoids (in my opinion) unconsciously resort to this attitude, but in this sense I distinctly remember the Schizoid person who was by far the most Schizoid that I have ever known (I who have also known undoubtedly very extreme Schizoids). She was a young woman of dazzling aesthetics and demeanor (one of my attending doctors), and I distinctly remember, despite the fact that over 10 years have now passed, that every time I met her for professional reasons she presented herself with extreme care in her clothing, hairstyle and in accessories. The frankly paradoxical thing (!) was that this splendid young woman was clearly markedly asocial and asexual and did not hesitate to show her profound irritation in the face of any human contact, even worse if it was informal, but without realizing it she attracted, like flies to honey, precisely those subjects that more than others she aimed to reject (an infinite congeries of male patients in full hormonal crisis). When Akhtar he said that "the Schizoid is a mass of contradictions", well he wasn't very wrong.
@SchizoidVision4 ай бұрын
This ia an interesting perspective on, and example of, schizoid exhibitionism manifesting in a real-life situation. From what you describe it makes sense.
@e-t-y2374 ай бұрын
Wow, I was formulating questions as you spoke and you just picked them off one after the other! So sometimes this is just the subconscious and disowned need for attention/recognition, other times a much grander, strategic alter ego performer?? Persona versus performer, mask versus alter ego? How does the hypersensitive seclusion of the true self in the schizoid jibe with "not necessarily being shy."
@SchizoidVision4 ай бұрын
Good to hear that this video answered many of your questions. This is a deep topic, I think that essentially, schizoid exhibitionism goes beyond seeking attention for the sake of it, and involves balancing underlying needs for recognition whilst keeping the true self protected. The apparent contradiction of hypersensitive seclusion alongside "not necessarily being shy" stems from the intricate inner world of schizoid individuals. The true self, which tends to be highly sensitive and often isolated to shield against emotional pain, contrasts with the alter ego-a protective facade that may exhibit confidence or flamboyance without shyness. These dynamics illustrate how different facets of the schizoid self interact to shield vulnerabilities. The persona, performer, mask, and alter ego all serve as strategies for navigating social interactions while safeguarding the sensitive core. The persona is the socially acceptable face presented to the world, while the performer aspect might take on a more noticeable or flamboyant role to fulfill unmet needs for attention or social participation. The mask acts as a facade to protect the true self from exposure, and the alter ego represents a more developed, sometimes extravagant version of the self, embodying characteristics the individual wishes to project. Hope this adds clarity.
@СветаНовикова-э3ы4 ай бұрын
Oh fuck you thank you for exposing me again! (jokingly angry) Thank you for the video. It was really helpful and provoke a lot of thoughts and self analysis.
@SchizoidVision4 ай бұрын
😂 Oops I did it again... It's good to hear that this video has helped you with your self analysis.
@stuartsenften2374 ай бұрын
Interesting conversation can you name a vocalist or an actor or or actress that is SPD?
@SchizoidVision4 ай бұрын
Not for certain. A lot of times it's not easy to tell if someone is schizoid outside of a deep-dive reveal of themselves where they explicitly share examples of having schizoid traits. And they tend not to openly declare being schizoid.
@don-eb3fj4 ай бұрын
"Schizoid exhibitionism! OOOOH YEAAAAH !" - calm down, ya pervs, it's not that kinda exhibitionism, or that kinda channel - get a room, and an Only Fans subscription. 😜 This is a really cutting edge exhibition all its own, information I haven't seen from any other source, and it really does open up new dimensions of the schizoid condition - it certainly gave me a lot to think about, my own participation here as well as the ways I have (and haven't) interacted with people in various other contexts, my thoughts spiralling out like the arms of a galaxy into the unknown. I spent a day and night preparing and assembling some of those thoughts into a prepared format, but when I tried to post it something went wrong, maybe the connection timed out or the post was too big, I don't know. I saved it with screenshots and I will try to reassemble it and post it in a series of entries in hopes of adding some additional useful context to these concepts and some ideas on how this relates to the schizoid (and human) condition. Consider this perspective: stand outside on a clear night and look up - there are an estimated Trillion Billion stars in the visible universe, 100 Billion in our own Milky Way galaxy alone, each one a potential planetary system. Might there be life on some of those planets? Maybe intelligent life? More or less intelligent than we? Might we ever communicate with them, or they with us? Would we want to? Would they? Would they be friendly, or hostile? And what about us? Humans have been asking these questions as long as we've been human, and have devoted resources to try to answer them in various ways, now with high tech radio telescope arrays and orbiting observatories. We send our radio emissions out through the void and wonder if someone will ever respond. We send interstellar probes out into the far reaches of the deep as a means to explore, and to exhibit who we are to anyone they may encounter, carrying a gold calling card and recorded message of greeting, with a map of where we are in the universe. We hope, against the odds. Now imagine that as you stand there looking into the night sky with wonder, those stars begin to wink out one by one, the sky becoming darker as each tiny dot of hope is extinguished in turn. Will our own star go dark too? Do you feel comforted, or existential dread and terror? It's too much to contemplate - lowering my eyes back to my own horizon I can't help but think about the 8 Billion of us here, each of us separate and distant; all those same questions remain. I'm glad you didn't edit out the tangue tungler at 12:56 - "Easy for you to say !" 😂 - so relatable, I almost split open laughing with you, and I think I peed a little 😮. See, I TOLD YOU you'd be doing standup comedy soon, and no smashed fruit or cheap one-liners, George Carlin would be proud!. My "psychic powers" prove themselves once again.😉 Exemplary performance Penzy, and very well delivered...and received.
@SchizoidVision4 ай бұрын
@@don-eb3fj 🤣😂 🤣 those psychic powers famz. On a side note: In case you don't already know you can instantly convert screenshots to text with online software. It saves so much time.
@don-eb3fj4 ай бұрын
@@SchizoidVision good tip, thanx for that, one more thing to toss into the smoothie between my ears, but I GOTTA do something to streamline my process for sure. I'll have to look for apps to do that, but ultimately all this would be so much easier on a laptop, gotta look into that angle too. At least with starting at the Texas Instruments (or maybe abacus) level I don't have much outdated info to flush. But I think even this cheap phone has more functional processing power than my 3 remaining wayward brain cells at this point. 😵💫 I used to say "Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most", but I'm discovering that if you lose enough of it, you don't miss it so much anymore. 😉