94-02 Dodge Cummins 47RE to Nv4500 Swap: Part#3

[@JamesInTN]

You have done an awesome job on how to switch from an auto to a straight! I have referred to your videos several times. I was able to purchase a complete 99 dodge 3500 as the donor truck. The process took a little over a week to complete. I am very happy with the nv4500 swap. I had very few issues to deal with. Thank you for being a part of the process.

[@Schneids15]

James thank you so much for the nice comment. Made my day. I wish I had filmed it a few years later when I had a better camera. However you get what you get. Happy I helped and enjoy your NV4500. It sure made the truck fun to drive.

[@blocktrowel]

Awesome step by step install...i will have my nv4500 couple weeks then I can get started..this will help big time..thanks bud ...great vid

[@Schneids15]

I appreciate the feedback! I had to do a lot of editing to get the video to where it is. Tried to make it simple to watch but cover everything.

[@bigmurph1447]

You did a very good job didnt skip any steps. When doing the transfer case dont lose the cup washer for the shift folk or it wont stay in low ranger. I got a jasper reman transfer case in mine it would pop out of low ranger open the case up everything look good but notice the cup washer was missing on the shift folk so I put 2 flat washers on it on top of the spring works good now.

[@Schneids15]

Thank you! Yes i got that cup washer on. It was a tedious task putting those cases but worth it. Going to test drive tomorrow and looking forward to it.

[@AndrewBrowner]

9:05 im stuck at the part where your girlfriend helps you with the project instead of yelling at you for buying the truck in the first place? can you explain or point me to a service manual on how to achieve this step?

[@paullogieri248]

The "not yelling" part would be enough.

[@jasonfarnsworth5880]

Great video you got a little X-rated with that clutch alignment tool though you slid it in and out a few extra times lol I’m just just giving you a hard time brother great video

[@mikecowboygilbert9944]

Nice Job Good info getting ready to swap 47 or put G56 in place on 1998 12 valve

[@Schneids15]

Right on. Keep in touch. I would like to know how hard a g56 is to put in. Lots of guys knock them but man i love how they shift.

[@JNCdlS]

I've been coming back to your videos time and time again over the last year as I slowly complete my 47re to nv5600 swap, they have been so helpful so thank you very much! But I have a question about a wiring issue I've encountered that I can't find much information on. At 23:18 I briefly caught a glimpse of that two-pin grey plug which I believe is the 47re output shaft speed sensor plug. My NV nor my tcase has any kind of speed sensor plug on it. What did you do with yours? Did your trans have a speed sensor to plug into?

[@Schneids15]

Hey, so my speed sensor for my year of truck was on the rear differential. What year is yours?

[@JNCdlS]

@@Schneids15 It is a 2002 but the transmission and transfer case are from a 2001.

[@blocktrowel]

I had to ask was this the first swap you've done it was just really in-depth step-by-step you didn't miss anything awesome man ...good job!!

[@Schneids15]

Thanks again. Yeah i wanted to make sure it was really in depth! I tried to find in depth videos before and couldn’t so i put myself to the task.

[@Schneids15]

Also yes first swap i have done. I did lots of research.

[@daviddraper2474]

Hey josh really in depth video thanks for the helpful video. I have one question though. What do those two black and red vacuum lines connect to that bolt to the cross member.

[@Schneids15]

Thank you! No problem. They run along the frame right hand side and to the front axle disconnect.

[@bergjonah]

Can you elaborate a little more on the taking out the automatic steering column? I am in the middle of swapping mine and want to do exactly what you did with the steering column but confused on why you need a torch to take it out.

[@Schneids15]

The torch parts was a propane torch for the linkage under the truck. I had to melt out the bushings to get them to seperate. Otherwise your column is very straight forward.

[@TNbodydrop]

Great in depth video boss!!!!!

[@jamesrouse2245]

Did you have to change out the adapter plate on the engine when you swapped from manual to auto I pulled the one of the parts truck and was wondering if I need it or not

[@Schneids15]

No sir. Bell housing of manual bolts to adapter from an auto.

[@jessiej3991]

Where did you get that bell housing from? I Just bought a NV4500 and I'm looking to do the same to my truck! Btw you did a very good job and I'm very thankful for your videos as they will come in handy when I finally do my swap soon

[@Schneids15]

Thanks very much. Advance Adapters makes them. Go to www.allstategear.com is the best price. 390$US

[@callsignmohas5190]

Yeah but do you have to change the steering column out if memory serves me correctly I’m pretty sure I had a buddy back when I was in the military who did a conversion to Emanuel in his second GEN Cummins and I remember seeing the shifter lever for the automatic still on the column but he actually hooked up some old KC lights to his overdrive switch on the shifter lever.

[@Schneids15]

You don’t have to. If you want it to be a hack job and have the auto shifter on the column and are fine with that there is no reason to swap it.

[@sarapolley2926]

How did you connect your master and slave to the clutch? You never showed how to actually connect it or where to drop it down.

[@sarapolley2926]

Did you find your linkage for your brake pedal was too short once you put the standard pedal set in? If so how did you adjust it?

[@chimoslocksmith]

Question where do you get the pigtail for the clutch safety switch

[@Schneids15]

I was able to cut it off the parts truck. I believe you can get the tails at napa.

[@zacharymcclung4139]

Can you elaborate more on the wiring part of it?

[@SilverGearRC02]

couple questions, will i need a spacer if i’m going from a 47rh to a nv4500? and will i need a new fly wheel or can i use the old one?

[@montanamedrano4118]

Is there a gasket between the transfer case and the transmission? And what are the torque specks on putting the transfer case when putting it back on

[@Schneids15]

There is. Not sure on specs. Sorry

[@choking0smurf]

I dont remember if you ever stated it. But If i run the blk/white wire up to clutch safety switch. This makes cruise control work correct? Going to be swapping my truck here next weekends trying to get everything prepped before i put the truck on the lift so i can do it and be done in one shot.

[@Schneids15]

Correct. If just grounded it will bypass all safety features. Once clutch is let out the circuit is open and that allows cruise to work.

[@choking0smurf]

@@Schneids15 so interestingly. I had to ground the wire to make my clutch safety switch work. My truck already had all the wiring their and just a jumper wire in place of the clutch safety switch plug. The onky wiring i had to do was ground that wire, and wiring up the reverse lights. Then plug the safety switch into my harness and all works as normal.

[@Schneids15]

Amazing man! You must have an 01-02 truck?

[@choking0smurf]

@@Schneids15 99. So tried to get my computers reflashed. A buddy of mine works for dodge. He called into their tech line and they claim the anti stall doesnt exist. Got to say every manual cummins iv driven you can just let go of the clutch in 2nd and it goes. My truck you have to start in first an give it throttle or it stalls. Are they just full of shit before i waste $1000 buying computers that wont do anything

[@TeoDucky]

do you know where i could locate a cover for the gauges? do they make those new, also do you have to swap columns or can you just put different plastic to cover the spot where the automatic trans came from.

[@Schneids15]

Unsure on the cover. I would talk to mopar for that. Don’t have to swap columns you can cover it.

[@Marmoto812]

This video will help a lot, but where did you get that gauge cluster block off plate???

[@Schneids15]

Thank you! The gauge cluster block off plate came from the manual parts truck i got the trans from. I pulled the cluster and took it when i was there.

[@Schneids15]

I assume that you could buy that from dodge still. If i did not have the plate you could glue a piece of plastic behind it.

[@Marmoto812]

@@Schneids15 oh yeah that makes sense, been trying to find that piece haha, thank you!

[@blocktrowel]

Do you have to modify your front and rear drive shaft or just rear you think I'm wondering what I have to do on mine as well as I have the 47rh

[@Schneids15]

The rear shaft fits but sticks out of the slip yoke a bit.I will be putting them in today. They say you need a different front shaft but my auto one seems to be the exact same as the manual one.

[@blocktrowel]

Nice man

[@Schneids15]

Hey Frank, i got the shafts in today. I actually had to use the front shaft out of the manual. It is only about a half to 3/4” shorter estimated and that made it fit. The auto was just so too long.

[@dox1018]

Random question, is the engine backing plates the same for the 47re and the nv4500?

[@Schneids15]

Yes they are. The NV bolts right up.

[@dox1018]

Schneids15 your a life saver thanks 👍🏻!

[@m.o1411]

Im considering this swop. This may be a dumb question Does the pcm have to be reflashed? Is the origional pcm in the truck.

[@shanelitchfield6308]

What did you do for the neutral safety switch?

[@oldcroneysgarage9739]

Hey I have a 2000 dodge ram 3500 in the shop. Typical dodge transmission issues. Wondering if I can use the factory automatic ecm? Owner just wants to be able to drive the truck. Regardless of how the truck runs 2000 dodge ram 3500 24 valve cummins 47re

[@Schneids15]

So you are going to swap to a manual? Yep you can run the Auto ECM and PCM. I ran mine for 2 years with it and it worked fine. The only thing you will find is the Manual computers have anti stall control which is super nice to run with. Idle is 50rpm lower. Otherwise run it. I never had any issues. Let me know if you have any other questions

[@oldcroneysgarage9739]

@@Schneids15 we are thinking of swapping it to a manual. He rebuild the transmission 7 months ago and it's been a problem ever since. Been searching for the parts to convert it over to a manual.

[@Schneids15]

Good luck. If you can find a rotted out truck is best. I was the same. The dodge auto transmission was probably my worst investment of my whole life. I had mine redone and still hated it. I sold it and bought the swap. If the owner is not picky at all, all you really need is to find a transmission for a dodge. Clutch pedal and hydraulics, clutch and flywheel. Then a different input shaft for the transfer case and you would have a running truck. You can remove the auto shift lever and put the plastics back on the column. Some stuff won’t be ideal but it will be a running driving truck.

[@amezyy1713]

How hard was it to take the torque converter bolts out and what did u use to get them out I’m having trouble with that part ?

[@Joel-vb5cr]

Does your cruise control work after the swap?

[@Schneids15]

Yes it does

[@co24v62]

In the last steps of mine and I for the life of me cannot get the thing to start. I tried to ground that black and white wire in several places and no luck. And help would be appreciated

[@Schneids15]

Make sure you are connecting it off your harness not your clutch safety switch. Did you have the starter off to install a flywheel spacer? If so check that wiring. Plus battery cables

[@co24v62]

@@Schneids15 yes I am connecting it off my harness, and yes i had the starter off for the spacer. Just got the spacer and started in and torqued down. I tested the connections on the starter and I'm good there, I must be missing something lol

[@nicksaluzzi640]

So for the NSS did you just cut that connector off that’s under the dash? I’m just a little confused as to how you did it, I’m currently in the process of doing this to mine lol

[@Schneids15]

No connector under the dash... was all on the side of the trans. Have to run the wires from trans to switch. Give me a bit. Trying to think of how i did it.

[@zokzyy1023]

Doing my swap in a couple days do you have to have that starter spacer? Someone told me you only need it with a 5600 flywheel

[@Schneids15]

Only with a 5600 flywheel is correct. Stock nv4500 clutch does not use one.

[@cubenitup]

Did this effect your cruise control? Also love how the truck sits. What size leveling kit?

[@Schneids15]

No cruise control works fine. Just have to hook the clutch safety switch up proper for that to work. 2.5” level stock rear. It sits level but maybe a tad high in the front. I love the look

[@ELPATRON839]

What’s the cerclip for?

[@theguy9234]

For some reason. For me.. The video wont play past 5.57

[@Schneids15]

Odd. Seems to play past that for me. Try exiting and re load youtube. Have had that work for me before. Josh

[@samhayes7523]

Thanks for the videos. Starting my swap next week. Do I really need to a manual column? I found your videos after I started sourcing parts and don't have one. I figured I could remove the auto shift lever and was going to buy a manual column plastic cover without the hole for the column shift. Would this work or do I need a manual column?

[@Schneids15]

Yes sir, pull off the plastics and drive the pin holding the auto shifter on and you are good to go.

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[@blocktrowel]

Did a great job!!!

[@gavinmoto4671]

is you truck a 24 or 12v, asking for wiring tips, i am going to be doing this exact swap on my 1998.5-24v

[@Schneids15]

24V you will have no issues following this.

[@nathanreynolds8611]

Do you think I can make my automatic support work that’s the only thing I am missing?

[@Schneids15]

Some guys have. I think they redrill it to another location or something. But yes i think you can make it work. You can buy new manual supports from napa for fairly cheap.

[@alexking2515]

Were did you get the plug for the neutral Safety switch inside the truck?

[@Schneids15]

The NSS plug comes out of the side of the old automatic trans. You have to splice into it there and run that to your clutch pedal switch.

[@alexking2515]

@@Schneids15 I have I cut the plug off and did the 2 wires for the back up lights then I grounded the ground so I can start it but I want to wire up the NSS but I do not have the plug for the pedal like you did in the video and plugged it in

[@choking0smurf]

Part number for that plastic cluster plate?

[@DonandEvanYoutube]

This video is very helpful

[@ericwalt6973]

I did a swap and my rpm works for 5 seconds and truck runs funky after 5 seconds rpm doesn't show and check engine light comes on cam shaft sensor position ... can someone help? Mine is 24v Cummins

[@braydengarcia8044]

How much would you charge to do it to my truck it’s a 1999 dodge Cummins no joke

[@blocktrowel]

Nice man..thank u..i really appreciate it

[@waynegunvaldsen732]

How did you get the speedometer work

[@Schneids15]

It never stopped working. It reads off the rear differential.

[@waynegunvaldsen732]

@@Schneids15 okay thank mine stopped working after I put the five speed in

[@Schneids15]

Is yours a 12 valve?

[@waynegunvaldsen732]

@@Schneids15 yes it is a 12v

[@Schneids15]

I believe the 12 valve have a speedometer hookup on the transfer case. You could have missed the connection there.

[@alork5517]

Did you change the pcm?

[@Schneids15]

No i used the factory Auto ECM.

[@ericwalt6973]

I did a swap and my rpm works for 5 seconds and truck runs funky after 5 seconds rpm doesn't show and check engine light comes on cam shaft sensor position ... can someone help?

[@brokenwingsparanormal]

great how to! thanks

[@blocktrowel]

Hey Josh couldn't find you on Instagram

[@Schneids15]

it is just joshschneids

[@11Quiksilver11]

What was wrong with your 47re?

[@Schneids15]

Nothing at all. I had it rebuilt not long ago actually. I have always wanted a 5 speed and finally found a swap.

[@11Quiksilver11]

@@Schneids15 you still have it? What are you going to do with it now?

[@Schneids15]

@@11Quiksilver11 I Don't actually. I listed it on Kijiji yesterday and sold it at 10 AM this morning to a fellow that is putting it in his 99.

[@11Quiksilver11]

@@Schneids15 damn! I have a 97 I'm wanting to convert to 4wd. I only have a 2wd 47re right now. Wonder if I can make it a 4wd trans?

[@Schneids15]

I have another 47re case and a bunch of parts. It is 4wd and i would sell it. Are you in ontario?