Holly sh! This is definitely the best video on this channel. Very interesting, makes you think, laugh and most of all teaches you a lot. Very good work! Thanks for sharing.
@martintheguitarist7 ай бұрын
Most of these studies are meaningless.There is a big difference between what women say and what they respond to. Besides what does the question find attractive even mean? Attractive for what? Sex, marriage, a photo? These researchers spent their entire life in a lab and the average plumber dated more women than all of them together. Yes you should improve your behaviour, fitness and appearance. But so does a gay guy. So you have to work on these regardless who you want to date. Being fat, neglected and antisocial is not attractive to anyone. Duh.
@Lowenzinho7 ай бұрын
I agree... what people say and what people do have an abysmal difference. The methodology in these researches are too hard to spit out any significant data in order to be used in real life
@jc4evur6613 ай бұрын
The only thing predictable about women is their unpredictability.
@mfc46557 ай бұрын
You've been upping the game recently, sheesh.
@SchoolOfAttraction7 ай бұрын
Cheers dude - I'm trying!
@roymiller50937 ай бұрын
Hey Damien, another realy great video👍 It is so great to see someone trying to understand the meaning behind the Dating-Data and statistics. Your scientific approach in this topic is unique. Keep it up.
@steve198116 ай бұрын
I'm into law of attraction. I believe it's about happiness and vibe..... Excellent video though. Insightful, Well done...
@gtd95367 ай бұрын
You only touched upon the most interesting research. Why is it that the more attractive you are, the worse your long term relationships become?
@houseofvenusMD7 ай бұрын
Because of choice overload. The same phenomenon happens when a consumer is provided with too many options for a given good. It becomes more difficult to make a decision because the consumer has many choices, whereas with only two or three choices the decision making process happens much smoother. It makes sense that these same psychological phenomenon are found in the sexual/romantic market place.
@gtd95367 ай бұрын
@@houseofvenusMD That's a good theory, one that anyone well read could have theorized, but there's some issue. Choice overload happens to optimizers not "sufficers". And, not every good looking / rich person is an optimizer. Great discussion, but not really my main point. My point is, a very interesting issue presented in this video was only touched upon and not given the proper time it deserves.
@Afroteli7 ай бұрын
@@gtd9536 Focus is key in delivering a message. While that may be an interesting topic and may even be grounds for another video, that was not the focus of this video and shouldn't have doubled the length of a succinct video on a particular topic.
@SchoolOfAttraction7 ай бұрын
Yeah - I'm working hard to keep my videos shorter to maintain watch times - but I did mention briefly and @houseofvenusMD got it right as well - there's not a huge body of evidence - but essentially good looking people have way more opportunities to cheat than average people. I'd also potentially argue that there's an element of - the more superficially you date - i.e. if you value superficial qualities the most highly - the less likely you are to find a mate with potential for stable long term prospects. So if any woman or guy dates based primarily on looks/money then the odds the person they pick is also a good personality match is low and the relationship is more likely to be doomed - however this secondary reason is simply speculation by myself - nobody specifically mentioned this reason in the research.
@Afroteli7 ай бұрын
@@SchoolOfAttraction I appreciate the reliance on data in your video. Your second point is well-reasoned. My way of thinking about it is if blue is long term qualities and red is superficial qualities, being theoretically colorblind in selection to blue will result in less chance that you pick blue lol, pure math major here.
@Straga_Severa7 ай бұрын
This is a new and unique style of the content for this channel - it looks really interesting, but I feel like this carefree, "modern" style clashes with the nuances that you try to convey in this video =-) But I hope that it pleases the KZbin Algorithm god, and it finally reaches the bigger audience this way =-) Nevertheless, I think there are a few factual points that I want to comment on. I think science struggles with this topic because it cannot get raw data from human relationships and is forced to either use the self-reports (and people lie A LOT), or to observe from the bird's eye view (look at the high-level facts like divorces and marriages that are registered on a government level). I'm a radical who thinks that all self-reported studies study only the movements of the vocal cords, not the actual relationships - but if we discard them as statistical artifacts (as we should), then we get into "not enough data" territory - and I want to illustrate it on the "mall study" in your video ;-) Let's imagine that this study was not just a joke, but was following the methodology of science - big enough sample size, removing biases, etc. It would be hard to do, but let's imagine that we have an unbiased data sample, matching observed couples (btw, how would these researchers discern couples in relationships vs couples that are not?) in the malls all around the Australia with the man's height. We would get data like this: "21% of men in couples were over 180 cm, 42% of men are between 170 cm and 180 cm, ..." - and we could make an informal, practical conclusion like "generally, it is really hard/kinda harder/not hard at all for short men to get into the relationship". But it would be an useless conclusion, because this study cannot quantify the "quality" of the relationship. Not only because this metric is vague, but because, even if we simplify this metric, we cannot gather a good data for it. Let's look into just one, limited and restricted, aspect. A good quality relationship is a relationship where a girl does not cheat on a guy, right? But we cannot just ask girls if they cheat on their partner, and then match their answers with a partner's height, because they will all lie. And we cannot go around placing bugs on girls and spying on them with a camera to check if she cheats, because not only researchers will be jailed, but it would be absurdly costly even if it was not a criminal offense. The only metric we could gather would be really low-balling - when women cheat, sometimes they leave a long-lasting evidence - a kid. So we can make DNA tests on the kids and their fathers, and match the result against the father's height, but this is still really costly - way more expensive than just giving girls and guys a piece of paper - and the leftists academia would come running for the researchers if the results would be at least mildly interesting (i.e. women are more likely to cheat on shorter guys). But even then, you cannot substitute "amount of paternity fraud by height" for "amount of cheating by height" - there might be confounding factors, like "girls who date the taller guys are more/less likely to use contraception when cheating". And you cannot substitute "amount of cheating by height" for "amount of relationship quality by height" too. So, in the end, observable data studies cannot help you, and self-reported studies cannot help you. That's why "guys with an opinion" prosper in the manosphere, and I have no way that it could function differently. It's all just battle of opinions, wielding more or less relevant anecdotes as weapons - and that's why I urge you so much to go and present your opinion to those guys, and let the audience decide who had better arguments =-)
@SchoolOfAttraction7 ай бұрын
Yes, I agree the data on dating is so very hard to collect in a meaningful way - especially because relationsihps of all things dig deepenst into our core wounds, so there are many MANY blindspots which are completely ignored in self-reporting. My difficulty is that what I do have is my anecdotal experience as a coach, which numbers men into the 10s of thousands - and that gives me something of a useful insight but it's not scientific data.
@Straga_Severa7 ай бұрын
@@SchoolOfAttraction That's why it pains me so much - as a rationalist and tech-optimist, I'm forced to say that modern-day science is almost useless in the pursuit of improving your ability to attract girls, and this anecdotal experiences of coaches like you (or people like Rollo) are more useful than those studies =-((
@seanboyne4507 ай бұрын
Your a dating coach so you are random guy with an opinion as well interesting video but still a guy with an opinion
@SchoolOfAttraction7 ай бұрын
Yes this is true, but I never present myself as anything except that. Too many people mistake nice sounding opinons for scientifically compelling argument - And Rollo's words are way to frequently assumed to be scientific fact which is oftentimes frustrating when trying to seek the truth of the world.
@annaradford67527 ай бұрын
😂 Thankful each Woman or man might like different looks. I know for me I have to go with men that look like they might know simmlar things to myself even if they are far from what many women want. Though it could just be go with a type of guy that I will have better chance with and have info on many subjects. It a different ball game but I just as much feel I have to try do the male things. I don't know how much damage from what it seems like men have change feminie or something happen. Yet I still want to have bits that are femine so the guy can feel manly as well as look more attactive from doing so. It just wanting both parties to feel love and care about even if either of us had a bad day or something getting one of down. 😂still I know it will be hard to get there as it no mans land but a place I love to be even if I be really old lady when I do.😂 I am just happy to laugh and I need to try to cook chicken soup freash or from a can.
@etinarcadiaego74247 ай бұрын
Great, I'm fine for long term relationships but I guess having casual encounters is out? Lame. Long-term is for losers.
@Straga_Severa7 ай бұрын
Well, I disagree with you that it is for losers, but I agree that men don't want to be considered "fine for long-term relationships, once she has her fun with tall and attractive guys".
@SchoolOfAttraction7 ай бұрын
THIS Is the curious thing men do to themselves - they hear "it's harder for an average guy to have a casual relationship, but the degree isn't so very high" and then they respond with "Abandon All HOPE!" But that was never said or implied so it's interesting that this was your takeaway.
@annaradford67527 ай бұрын
@@Straga_SeveraI have likely aim lower and "realistic" level of attractive for guys even if I no real understanding of what I had real want. It was learning how to be sexual be with someone but fancy that person for simmlar interests. I just don't know how to have a mind set of long term and how to find a man that wants and teach me what I need for a long term relationship.
@Straga_Severa7 ай бұрын
@@SchoolOfAttraction I don't agree with this interpretation - sure, for an average guy the degree is not very high, but that's discounting the 50% of population who are BELOW average ;-) And these are the guys who often receive the "fine for long-term relationships, but only when she has her fun" treatment (or the "not fine even for LTR", which is more painful) - and that's the reason they respond with "abandon all hope".
@mannysantana5 ай бұрын
You’re also a random guy with an opinion lmfao
@SchoolOfAttraction5 ай бұрын
This is true - but I'm not being held up to represent the apostle of an entire philosophical movement... I think people forget that's all he is. I haven't forgotten that's all I am - this is the difference.
@TR123657 ай бұрын
Time to shave your head
@Lowenzinho7 ай бұрын
And for you to start therapy, if you have to come to a video on KZbin to address issues that are none of your concern, try to order people around while projecting your own issues onto others. This comment says a lot about you...
@annaradford67527 ай бұрын
Damien is fine like he is.
@jlw28267 ай бұрын
You should wear a helmet for the rest of your life. Throw some cement glue in there and go at it
@TR123657 ай бұрын
@@Lowenzinho the man offers dating advice. At this point it’s the equivalent of getting directions from a blind man.
@Lowenzinho7 ай бұрын
@@TR12365 So your comment should address his content and provide arguments why his advice would not work instead of mocking his appearance as this is a very low way to debate.
@reinforcedoctocopters29937 ай бұрын
Go on welfare and live in the gym for 18 months. This video is total useless advise.
@Nerdcrusher7 ай бұрын
Stop worshipping science 24/7.
@yoboyajax59837 ай бұрын
No one here is doing that. Science is our best explanation for what's going on around us, if that's not important to you then that's your problem
@lchpdmq7 ай бұрын
A lot of what they call science (eg climate science) is deception and propaganda these days but that doesn’t mean that science done well isn’t useful