Science Vs God - Is There A Life Force That Transcends Matter? | Under The Skin with Russell Brand

Dubbed “the most controversial scientist on Earth” Rupert Sheldrake joins me to discuss the dogmas within conventional science, the evolving laws of physics, memory in nature, and how science validates and improves spiritual practices.
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[@koroglurustem1722]

Russell's summaries each time at the end of Sheldrake's responses is magnificent. He so eloquently restates what the professor said and poses it for further elaboration and asks questions. Great job Russell !

[@chriscorbin1055]

Yes. I think Russell is brilliant .love the different topics as well.

[@stubruchu]

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[@julielea8344]

I know! I was thinking exactly the same thing, he's brilliant.

[@richardcheek2432]

I wish Russell had asked him why the 'first time' of events is Earth/Humanity centric. Surely some alien species have observed these things before, so why did it not improve salt formation, for example, prior to our perception of it? Maybe some facets of this Cosmic Memory is species dependent but others are interspecies and still other stored as planetary 'memory', assuming all this is valid? BTW, I agree with Jungian homo Sapien shared memory and with sympathetic animals like pets and intelligent other life forms, dolphins, elephants, etc.

[@a.j.orichard6137]

Well said

[@mbarron651]

I wish there were more scientists like Rupert. He questions everything, rather than accepting dogma blindly. This is what a scientist should be. :)

[@tripzville7569]

Lets hope that Mr Sheldrake and his principles are the future.

[@lisardfg9630]

Dunno

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[@lisardfg9630]

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[@justinsjourney3224]

I did not want this interview to end. Such GOLD! This interview brings me so much joy I'm glad consciousness is eternal.

[@gyro5d]

Universal Consciousness.

[@kalapitrivedi6966]

God as a separate entity doesn't exist.. God as a person is nothing but our own projection.. Godliness exists, that is consciousness!

[@darwinhubc7481]

@@kalapitrivedi6966 But Sri Ramakrishna saw kali in physical form. You can't generalize god with intellectual reasoning. Blessing

[@michaelchbeir8674]

@@kalapitrivedi6966 let me elaborate your understanding of consciousness. If we are conscious beings that doesn't imply that we are eternal since consciousness can be part of your physical body that expands into a universal intelligence which dies with your body. Second if its part of us but has no relation to our physical being you lose your identity as a consciousness after death. Im not against any belief system Im just trying to understand from which angle are you seeing it.

[@70AD-user45]

@@kalapitrivedi6966 God created consciousness and free will and without a God the universe will not have a reason to exist and cannot exist. As the Psalm 14, 1 says, only a fool believes there is no God. With book of Psalms, you can see there's many fools around us.

[@kencarey3477]

This was an excellent interview with Rupert. Normally he debates mainstream scientists that are more interested in shutting him down than finding out the truth. Very much appreciated this !

[@2msvalkyrie529]

NOBODY is trying to shut him down !! Simple fact is he cannot produce a shred of evidence for any of his claims ....that's all he has to do .! Just like every other Scientist ! He's the Graham Hancock of Science though much more likeable !!

[@codyw6248]

Give the man a chair with armrests

[@alisalauzon9291]

Oh yes!!

[@scottlemoult3109]

He looked like he was gonna fall forward in his chair the whole time!

[@mark1952able]

"Rules & Regulations who needs them, through them out the door"...CSNY

[@infamousted4960]

yes... more comfortable chairs.

[@michaelmoore8680]

He looks like he was just in a wheelchair before the interview..... Weird The chair has a place to rest/prop your feet.... no reason to sit so awkwardly.

[@andreassilva8410]

Wow! What a refreshing pair of communicators. Two people who actually listen to each other and respond in turn. Common in everyday life, perhaps, but uncommon on camera.

[@drakekay6577]

Yes I enjoy listening to Russel Brands format of talk show......

[@mbgarner]

Russel is a bit of a lefty twat but I do like him still, he is a great communicator I'll give him that

[@QED_]

@Andreas Silva: Yours is a good observation . . . and worth thinking about some more. For example: what do Brand and Sheldrake actually have in common that makes this a good conversation (?) I don't think that it's primarily similar views. Instead, there's a kind of sincerity in each . . . that informs the conversation. From my own personal experience: I cringe to have conversation with a self-righteous, close-minded person who shares my views . . . but enjoy conversation with a curious, not-invested-in-himself person who doesn't share them.

[@blissfulbaboon]

delightful conversation because they are both open and curious

[@jrolvin2064]

I watched this interview all the way through. Sheldrake is very articulate about his ideas, Russell drops in a load of big words often muddying the waters and sometimes unknowingly contradicting himself in the same sentence (i cant believe he gets away with it). Good that he's connecting his audience with such speakers.

[@charlottenugent8647]

God I loved this one. I have been in recovery since 1983. Prior to that I had many psychedelic experiences, the first with Peyote in 1960. I was one of those “first wave psychedelic pioneers” reading about the LSD twins, Alpert and Leary, who were our culture heroes. I have also been an Episcopalian for many years and my daughter was a chorister at St. John the Divine cathedral in NYC. They did Vespers service every Sunday night and yes the Vespers or Choral Evensong is a beautiful transcendent experience. I guess you could say I have been searching for transcendence all my life. These podcasts are just GREAT!! You and Rupert were like jazz musicians “riffing on God”. I love this series. I am an old lady now, quarantined to save my life and except for phone calls and my daughter and her Scottish husband “zooming”in, I am alone. Your podcasts are saving my life.

[@radium1977]

How have you been coping, the past yr Charlotte? Hoping you are keeping well x

[@seechao]

May the universe find you well, and find well in your favors.

[@blakesleyk.7166]

@@seechaoI’m screenshoting your beautiful comment & likely to plagiarize. Sorry.

[@blakesleyk.7166]

@@radium1977I love your comment. Doing rewatch & appreciated.

[@thisisanno]

So pleased this appeared on my playlist. Finally an ACTUAL scientist who is using his mind for the purpose it was created for. Amazing, As always.

[@fekete-kiss-sandor]

This is an EXCEPTIONAL interview Kudos, Russel Kudos, Rupert! Very well done!

[@lifeinruralthailand]

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[@edfitzgerald1466]

Amazing conversation!

[@martinarreguy2210]

Tesla was quoted saying; "When science begins to study the non physical, it will make more progress in ten years then all the centuries preceding that point" One of most obscured man in history! 3 6 9

[@angelayerkovich3077]

Your comment makes me think of Don McLeans line in his song 'Starry Night' " You suffered for your sanity." To me this is the motion that those we label as 'insane' are the ones that are 'sane'. I am not denying that certain mental states can be harmful to our health but our approach to different mental states is more harmful than the state itself. In some cultures these 'mental states' are embraced and revered and considered to add value to the group.

[@benjaminbrewer2569]

Actually a man named Rudolf Steiner studied holistically and created some amazing things. He called his work spiritual science. The main body of his work was created from about 1900 to his death in 1925. I am fascinated by Tesla but Steiner’s work was much deeper and promoted the human being rather than machines.

[@Wuppie62]

@@angelayerkovich3077 Also in Western culture. They're called 'artist', 'creative', or 'President of the United States'. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Trump is a great artist. But Sheldrake is a (former) scientist who seems to dogmaticly sell the same new age paranormal ideas over and over again, only supported by suggestive questions and anecdotes. I bought and read his book 'A new science of life' in the eighties. At first, starting to read more and more about science in general, I found it interesting. Like I found astrology interesting as a young person. But a decade later I saw them as mistakes, or delusional, misguided. I'm a bit flabbergasted that decades later he still is repeating the same stories and questions - i.e. about dogs and pigeons. To me it seems the man, like any religiously convinced person, is compulsary fixated on his own belief and still tries to manipulate and interpret reality into his own pseudoscience, like a fanatic astrologist or homeopath would too. I don't know the english word for it, but in German they say 'hineininterpretieren'.

[@JohnSmith-wx4ts]

@@benjaminbrewer2569 steiner is the damn man.

[@crosswiredmediator2374]

Obscure? Do u know the meaning of that word x x every page has a bunch of Tesla fan boys spreading mythology and his life experiences as well as inventions and ideals are very well known and most are available in documents but one or two which are either hidden by power grabbing thief’s of world or simply thought to of not worked is why left as is before his death .. Not obscure at all lol 😆 just not as well celebrated in main stream till now as others maybe .. yes I can agree with that

[@jessie.jay03]

This animal telepathy thing has never been something I ever questioned. I never really considered the word telepathy to describe it I just always thought it was common knowledge like a type or normal understanding that animals can sense more than us. I mean, that’s what most people have always told me my whole life anyway and I’ve always believed it. When I’m upset my dog comes in from the other room acting very concerned and licks my tears and snuggles me. My cat comes to me purring when I’m anxious and her purr steadies my heart rate. When I went into labor my dog woke me up to let me know and he got me through it, I literally would not have gotten through the first part of labor prior to going to the hospital without my dog and cat and they were both very different during my entire pregnancy. They acted different towards me before I even knew I was pregnant. They are who initially gave me the idea that I may be before I started feeling sick and finally deciding to take a test. My dog also knows when someone, most often his father is about to pull into the driveway just before he does. My dog had also somehow known exactly what to do to take care of me after the first time I had a seizure without him having any training without ever witnessing a seizure or someone caring for a person who has had one. He’s also starts acting up and tries to do whatever he can to get me off of my feet prior to me having one and I don’t even know when I’m about to have one like some epileptics do. Animals 110% have the capability to sense more than us. I have never questioned that and it blows my mind that anyone ever could, especially scientists. Shame on you scientists 😠

[@OldForestWitch]

Nearly 20 years ago, I was sat in meditation when I heard "Everything is true." We don't particularly need gatekeepers for reality. We're here to observe and to play.

[@cristiangaban960]

You don't need gatekeepers for reality , but you get them anyway. You can't simply negate laws of physics .

[@darrellsharrock3859]

All our religions are true , just skewed views of the same truth . Truth cannot be suppressed

[@elainemagson213]

Good old Russell! I found myself smiling at so much of this. Rupert has been one of my heroes for ages. Loved Russell’s respectful teasing.

[@degenbrainlet]

The eloquent language used throughout this conversation is so damn beautiful

[@monstersince]

bullshit is bullshit no matter how you express it

[@heighwaysonthewing]

it is nice , but content is more beautiful, the meaning of what you say, you can read the instructions on a packet of 3 , with a nice accent but it's not beautiful , hold tip and roll over your hard c**k is hardly Shakespeare is it , it's what the words mean. and if they are true.

[@hallelujah8141]

@monstersince - Did your parents never tell you that it’s far better to keep one’s mouth shut and let others THINK you’re stupid than to open your mouth and PROVE it? I’m sure you could find a more appropriate channel more suited to your intellectual capabilities? (Peppa Pig maybe?)

[@hallelujah8141]

@@thehoennregi8486 Aww...I just don't like it when people have a strong opinion based on examining only the mainstream propaganda without checking out the alternative version for comparison...💚

[@gardeningfamilies]

it's almost intellectual pornography in the best way

[@jmpfjoy9858]

I love Russell Brand, and have watched his continuing transformation. He continues to be amazing 😉

[@HeidiSue60]

He’s inspiring.

[@Unxpekted]

Even better these days!

[@khalif1991]

we are blessed to witness Russel

[@humminglake]

One of the best interviewers on the web. Humor and truth.... good dinner and dessert. Thanks Russell!

[@AcidOllie]

5th time watching this interview and it never gets dull. Absolutely fantastic.

[@cheyology]

First time watching and I know I’m not grasping all of the greatness... so def will have to do so again!

[@davidforshaw4810]

👍🍄🔑🧩🧠

[@thetalantonx]

"All truth is one. In this light, may science and religion endeavor together for the steady evolution of Mankind: From darkness to light, From narrowness to broadmindedness, From prejudice to tolerance, It is the voice of life that calls us To come and learn. " -found scrawled in the Hayes bell tower of the University of Buffalo

[@lindacarroll6849]

TheTalantonX love it and thank you. however, there are forces at work that want to cap this. can you feel it ? 😊

[@reneehoefler370]

I love Russell Brand. He is far more intelligent, or at least well spoken, than I could ever have imagined when I first became familiar with him. He actually impresses me and I love his humor when that comes in anywhere.

[@sarah-jaynemcdonald2594]

I realised that when I read his book. Brilliant, my mind was blown when I found out he didn't have a ghost writer. Very literary talented guy.

[@ihatespam2]

He has turned his drug auction in to maniacal ranting.

[@08453300222]

@matsyendranath Not like you ay?

[@aaronhelsby8214]

Darren McGovern I don’t see this as ranting, I guess because it’s not

[@donniepangborn2074]

I hope he is mentally well though. As we see on television. Some of the most well known people who are of the brightest humans, trying to bring illumination to people through comedy and rebelliousness tend to be fighting very big metaphorical demons in their own head. Opening up your conciousness is a hard and scary thing but it must be done for inner understanding. If you happen to read these comment Russell I wish the best for you.

[@rockynuisance]

Rupert is someone I identify as a proper scientist. He observes and questions what he sees, analyses it and formulates hypotheses based both on logic and extrapolation.

[@2msvalkyrie529]

Unfortunately he never actually produces any evidence to back up his claims ? A minor detail to the more gullible on here I suppose ?

[@julessantana643]

@@2msvalkyrie529 He has many peer reviewed studies.

[@regmunday8354]

I'm an agnostic and sceptic, but I'd rather listen to Sheldrake's polite, good humoured, possibly naive spiritualistic idealism than short-tempered, pompous, arrogant, sneering, shouty Pope Richard Dawkins any day of the week.

[@franksavage8730]

Hear hear!!

[@phillipgregory9671]

Reg Munday agree 100% i lean ur way as well and feel the same about Dawkins.he just comes off as hateful.we need another Sagan.

[@thesuchanek]

Reg Munday it’s sad that Hawkins’ occasional true insight is sometimes overshadowed by his arrogance.

[@yossarian1633]

Think there's something to the reasons why one is the way he is, and the other the way he is. Not to say skeptics can't have admirable character traits, the intellectually honest of them surely do; but the "debunkers" are not imo proper skeptics. They start with the assumption that it isn't real, and look for evidence to support that view. Evidence that does not, they will ignore or if pressed, resist conceding to regardless of sound research holding scientific validity which is rigorously vetted. I think there are psychological grounds as to this particular incapacity or unwillingness. The implications of a spiritual reality can be as frightening as they are exciting, some people are maybe ready for that possibility.

[@yossarian1633]

* not ready for that possibility.

[@annascottage920]

I’m really impressed with Russell’s command of the British vocabulary in this interview. It’s the first time I’ve actually been to his channel and all my preconceived ideas of him have vanished x

[@08453300222]

Good on ya and well he is english int ee......... Gordon Bennett love, you're a sight for sore eyes.

[@raffa9728]

Anna’s Cottage English

[@annascottage920]

Ketchup Mayo British!!!!!!

[@annascottage920]

Peter Kimble get some eye drops 😉

[@ThomasDoubting5]

He's extremely articulate always has been

[@autogenes]

I'm impressed by the high quality of Russell's questions.

[@aphysique]

Luv the default pict,.... Alchemy at it's finest

[@bradhouston4734]

And listening

[@enigmaticloremaster1700]

It is a one way comment section anything doubting religion is removed , Russel has had his drug riddled brain distorted by feeble religious believers.

[@hurrahhurrah3156]

I think Russell Brand has found his stride in the pod cast. It's excellent.

[@SonicBodhi1]

CHILD OF THIS UNIVERSE what does this topic have to do with religion? The question is about the nature of reality. Does spirituality have anything to do with religion? You have to ask yourself why you are asking these questions- this is your perspective, which is based on what you can perceive. When you begin to perceive more, your perspective will change.

[@mjfbb22]

A brilliant discussion and analysis of reality as the most “intelligent” among our species “perceives” it to be. Brand’s “instinct” toward the Vedas, and Sheldrake’s extensive correlates involving the history of science and politics leading him to conclusions based on repeatable testing conclusions supports the reality of consciousness as beyond matter is “scientifically” sound. A simplistic, yet anecdotal, yet Vedic millennia-old basis for consciousness existing apart from the cerebral cortex, as is now universally studied and experienced, can be found in the NDE’ers reporting the same, like Dr.’s Alexander, Neal and Lommel. Stephen Meyer’s and his colleagues work on DNA and those working on convergence is where “science” is evolving. It appears obvious……..

[@KipIngram]

Russell Brand never fails to amaze me in these sessions. He's a truly remarkable individual.

[@kevinholly5517]

Really!!!!

[@jaime990]

My gosh I loved this conversation and I’m just now hearing it, a year later. Russell Brand I’m quite impressed with you from over here on the other side of the pond. Keep doin it!! Talking and asking questions that is. I want to hug your humor the seeps out around the edges - but at the same time you are no joke!

[@yasomati-stanya-payidasi9991]

I watched this again this morning, a year since last watching, and I obviously had not caught on to the fact of the non constant speed of light last year and was instantly blown away again. I fully subscribe to the notion that everything is temporary, but had obviously considered that there were constants within that temporariness, but the fact that it is actually somebody's job to keep track of these moving, so called, constants and that the length of a metre can change and go back again has blown my mind, as they say. So my supposition that time sometimes goes faster or slower may not be a figment of my imagination at all, amazing! I wonder what I will discover if I watch again next year. Thank you Russell Haribol!

[@oshhu8269]

Is it time to watch again? 😂

[@dfaithrichoz60]

Awesome, love these kinda chats 👏 I too believe in both science and spirituality equally, to me they go hand in hand supporting each other.

[@liubahossain8109]

I don't

[@gabrielehanne580]

Yes And when God takes you on a tour through his/her creation Allowing you insight One Then knows There are no words to describe this experience . Life in an individual body doesn't even make sense any longer . It is so very limiting .

[@liubahossain8109]

@@gabrielehanne580 Save your preaching for the disillusioned God worshippers.

[@guitarman122763]

@@liubahossain8109 you call that preaching? ,,I,ll bet you were just itching to write that!!

[@gramor]

I love how the engineer in the background appears to be so attentive and engaged.

[@lindacianchetti3599]

gramor You're NOT paying attention to this context. Listen and learn.

[@ab_0201]

I feel like he wanted to involve himself in the the conversation however he knows his station and position in society and knew any comment by himself would be misaligned.

[@errorASMR]

if i had that job i'd hope i never had to fart cause that would be torture then!

[@dutyforce233]

I thought he was a picture on the wall. Haha Haha. He doesn't move.

[@stratfol1]

@@ab_0201 knows his position in society? odd choice of words... he's just being a professional at work...

[@EMAGA]

It's interesting that this topic of morphic resonance came into my experience today. Yesterday I was thinking the exact same thing about the pyramids across the globe. All of a sudden different cultures and civilizations started building pyramids without ever having contact with one another. Intuitively, I thought it must be related to consciousness expansion or something similar. And here I am. Interesting.

[@richardcheek2432]

It would seem that the movement of schools of fish and flocks of birds enmasse can also illustrate some kind of share consciousness. The reactions of these group members seems much too quick for a purely mechanical reaction.

[@Niadrawings]

Excellent interview 👍🏻 I’m constantly in search for the purpose of the universe and the nature of consciousness, whether consciousness exists beyond the material world, and this interview is one of my favorite in answering these primordial questions.

[@carastorey762]

I think you might be interested in genesis, and revelations in the BIBLE.

[@kelechio6613]

Cara, do you believe that snakes speak? If not then the stories in Genesis must be allegories. I personally believe that the task before the reader is to uncover the hidden meanings.

[@webstercat]

Question the existence of a universe.You by you own experience will never be able know if there is one.

[@melyssademma8739]

I’m constantly looking for a man like him to spend the rest of my life with! Meaning Rupert no offense dear wrestle you know how much I love you or maybe you don’t but I’m going to let you know I love you OK!

[@yarakd]

I like to listen to these podcasts three times and not in one go, as in the first round I'd just listen, absorb, zone in and out at times, pause, get back to it etc. The second round I listen and note down thoughts and questions that come to mind. Third round, I listen again with all notes and questions in mind. I find this is truly active listening and learning. After I am done I research the questions listen or read on related manners. I've found we can think we learned from a podcast because we listened once and had an uhuhh moment, but the truth is you won't be able to recall the information when asked it will just be leftovers of the original information.

[@AlvaPalin]

Rupert Sheldrake is the Man! I love his taboo theory and feel like he got it right. He is always a delightful, interesting guest and speaker. Thank you for having him on because he is very important.

[@ohlawd3699]

Agreed.👍

[@Medietos]

@Folk Aart :Please tell us someone('s) who's not pure s**t? Your language for one thing sounds mor like it than their talk anyway, but maybe you know sth better..

[@Medietos]

@Folk Aart : Maybe, but have you met them all? anyway, did u know someone who does not talk "sh*t"please?

[@Spirituallove2000AD]

Its sounds like shit if your a bit thick maybe go on a different Channel idiot!

[@saschawalmroth5465]

Exactly you Feel He is right. No cience involved. Just i Feel He is right. I thougt the enlightenment was a while a Go in france. What Happend Guys. Somebody Like sheldrake appears and suddenly all cience ist gone and Just superstition and esoteric are Important. And what i Feel .

[@HimLahey]

"youve got a banned ted talk which i think is somewhat admirable" thats a dope sentence, very admirable

[@sharoncombs58]

Do you remember the title of the banned "Ted Talk"? Or the topic? Any idea what could be so outlandish and/or objectionable that Ted Talk would ban it?

[@karik7069]

I would love to hear it!

[@LITTLEMUSTANGFILLY]

This is probably my favorite video of Russel's so far.

[@nledelnr]

Brilliant. It's hard to quantify the great loss I've felt since I chose to abandon my religious dogmas. This discussion was helpful in re-imagining the essential nature of Belief to realized existence.

[@waynemyers2469]

I'd be interested in hearing why you chose to abandon a thing that you must have valued on some level since you count it as a loss now. Was it completely your choice or were outside forces partially responsible; Did you abandon dogma because it wasn't working or were you doubtful of it's value; Were you Catholic and lost faith because of the failures of the modern church or did science interpose itself and answer questions in a more complete way? I ask these questions because I too have moved away from a faith-based perspective to one based upon the scientific-method and rationality but, as you describe it, I've suffered from that change in subtle ways, just curious, Sir.

[@nledelnr]

@@waynemyers2469 I was raised in a protestant home devoted to the first principles of Christianity and mostly uninformed about the evolution of christianity and other religious views. I was raised to believe that all religious views, but ours, were corrupted ideologies. As I became aware of the inconvenient truths about every religion and the inescapable magnitude of rational answers in the natural world my foundation began to crumble. I will always miss the strong caring community, the complete sense of present and eternal security, and the sense of wellness I derived from devotion to a community's delusion. Those people are my people. The songs, the idioms, the mantras, and meditations still evoke a powerful response in me that feels like loss. But, where do you turn when you can't go home? So, I'm wishing for a world where people value the communal pursuit of truth and see the unified awe of the natural world as the worship we were born to participate in. Best regards.

[@lm7092]

The most joyous community I was ever a part of was the Jesus movement in the 70s. Our group somehow came together in an organic and haphazard way, and became a very intimate and informal social community. Most of us moved apart and have outgrown the dogma we believed in. The spirituality and love was very real. If I could find this type of community again I would become a part of it. Regardless of our simple beliefs, the love and growth were real. Pastors have since asked me why I didn’t join a church when I moved away. Genuine community is not easy to create. We were blessed by an outpouring of spirit somehow.

[@TorMax9]

Don't drill down into things too deeply because if you do, you will drill right through them and come out the other side. That goes for religious dogma as well as scientific dogma. Everything is a process of exploration and enjoyment and celebration, not a prison house to be locked into. More like a canoe on a river than a bedrock. More like the wing of a bird than a brick. Nobody knows the origin of ontological energy. Science perceives it and organises it one way and religion another. Different religions and spiritual traditions perceive and organise differently. I would never presume to tell a practitioner of another religion that they are "wrong". That is how the ontological energy and their tradition and their family has presented itself to them. Fine. It's an ongoing process. An open question. Not a nailed down "truth" all must adhere to. But neither is science. All science does is create provisional models for the purpose of prediction and control; as soon as a model better at prediction control comes up, the old models are set aside. An ongoing process. There's always room for improvement. We never get to a final, exclusive, complete "truth" about nature or about ourselves. All we get is heuristic tools. Probabilities. We note patterns, make an educated guess, act and hope for the best. All we get is effects and patterns of effects. Forevermore. So, enjoy your religious community. Don't put too much weight on it. Don't get hung up on it. Don't expect too much of it. Don't expect them to have a cohesive "proof" that can withstand all scrutiny. Because nothing else can either. The secular world is pretty chintzy. If it's health-promoting, if it makes your life richer, if it makes your life more beautiful, it's good. There is no other criteria of good, true, right. By their effects, ye shall know them. The proof is in the pudding. Etc., etc., etc. God bless!

[@stevedriscoll2539]

@@lm7092 Enjoyed this post. Were you from the Jesus Movement that originated in Orange County California?

[@ashleythebest.]

This was everything I could’ve ever asked for. Profoundly beautiful discussion. 🌸🎊

[@antemorph66]

Just found this- the most interesting perspective I've ever heard and it's resonates with me very strongly. This is the way I've come to think over the last several years, and im excited to look into this man's work more

[@Aelwyn666]

That was beautiful, Russel. I love listening to Rupert and admire him greatly. Thank you for being such a great Host. God bless. X

[@alwalw9237]

Great interview. Thanks so much. Absolutely love such deep meaningful discussions. Bliss! I came across this remarkable chapter called "Life Force" that really made sense to me. See what you think. "Life Force is a power. It is within you, but you cannot gain control of it. It is possible to use it in certain situations, but to actually have authority over it requires a highly developed and adept mind. This is important because in physical life you have the potential for power, ability and awareness. If these are cultivated wisely and applied appropriately, they become beneficial for you and for others."

[@ericjohnson2162]

That sounds interesting. Where is this from?

[@alwalw9237]

@@ericjohnson2162 It comes from a remarkable book called "Greater Community Spirituality" by M V Summers. It is available free to read online.

[@johnchapman5125]

Thank you, ALW.

[@julieann1975]

Ty!

[@msallies]

Beautiful!

[@graceschumacher9675]

I love you, Rupert, thank you for your love, gentleness, and brilliance! You touch my heart and soul. Thank you Russell, love, and blessings to you.

[@gethypnotherapy]

"This cheers me up on my road to the boneyard." - Russell Brand is amazing.

[@AaaAAA-jv6ds]

yes he is a amazing bone head

[@heighwaysonthewing]

@@AaaAAA-jv6ds who is Russell ? or the guy he's talking to? both are not bone heads, what do you do in life? what have you got to share with the world?

[@jordan2927]

Aaa AAA "...an amazing bone head"* you dumbass.

[@hopelaurel2207]

Trusting yourself is key. I've been in"poor" relationships with men because i chose them. I did not want the good men because i did not trust myself to not hurt them. I've learned to trust myself and love myselfand feel now I'm ready for the good relationship. Thank you for sharing your your growth.

[@AO-qv5hl]

Good for you Hope! I like that-"trusting yourself is key"-too many people are hung up on the visible tangible reality that they can't find the answers pertaining to this whole discussion because we place a very heavy limit upon ourselves that kinda seems like a lack of trust in actual direct experience. There are people including myself who have experienced things that have proven as evidence, but because I and others can't place direct personal experience onto a platter and slide it under a microscope for scientific evidence, it gets ridiculed and critiqued and thrown out basically. It's like we no longer have trust in experience and rely entirely upon the visible tangible evidence to show and prove us this part of life does exist. Unfortunately for many more years , perhaps, we'll still be dancing around this topic because we'll also continue to limit ourselves through being hung up on tangible "reality". We can't get there from here.

[@dhr.woltemade6387]

Regardless of what you think of any of the doctrines, one thing is certain, it is science that is proving the existence of God.

[@MiroslawMagola]

As you have no doubt noticed, we live in strange and interesting times. On the one side we have the victorious rationalism, with its complete dependence upon the computer and its related technology, yet on the other side we have the growing popularity of esoteric knowledge, or the search for paranormal phenomenon as its is called by the media. Our "rational thinking" culture is going through an crises of faith and the world around us no longer seems to be the same the one which has been explained to us by the scientists for the last hundred years. We need new discussion about quantum physics , cosmic consciousness, human consciousness, genetic research.

[@robertstar7463]

Nikola Tesla was the closest to understanding the Truth about our nature as a spiritual being of light - "Everything is the light".. and the purpose of this game of life is to awaken to that and finish with reincarnation and experiences and return to the original source from whence all came.

[@sunnythymes5444]

Miroslaw Magola Yuppp 👍

[@lunarsolstice83]

Such a beautiful conversation! Rupert is an hero of mine, his views make so much sense🙏

[@MarkLawrenceCollins]

"The plural of anectodal is DATA" another great quote from Mr. Sheldrake. Thank you Russell!

[@la_sarito]

Impressed by the level of this conversation, I enjoyed this conversation immensely. Thank you so much, what a great interview!

[@TheSenan23]

I'm about 30 minutes in and I feel like my I.Q. has just risen a point.

[@earlbaker6657]

LOL honestly that is so funny cuz I was thinking, I lost a point or two.

[@atvman1014]

Just like astrology is dismissed and called rubbish. Haha

[@yasomati-stanya-payidasi9991]

Me too, by the end I felt extremely smart!

[@DominicJai]

I love Rupert Sheldrake's books and Krishnamurti talks he did. Great interview Russell. :-)

[@terranhealer]

"this isn't a personal trip, we are all traveling on this boat together" I call it the third boat from the sun.

[@creativeconsciousness7392]

I love the thought of Russell and Rupert wandering barefoot through fields on their way to a cathedral for choral evensong. I hope you did it guys. Great conversation!

[@patricksmith7674]

Rupert is an amazing Scientist,our World needs to wake up to people like Rupert!

[@marinainchrist96]

I love this man for existing and using his platform to say this and for not being afraid of being outcasted... when THEY realize they’ll speak of you differently.

[@sharonm6514]

This is a great interview Russell thanks for sharing your warmth and brilliance with us....and of course bringing Rupert!!

[@rickspyder6159]

Wow what an amazing exchange of intellect, humor, knowledge compassion. Russell is an incredible in this forum. These are some of the best dialogs on KZbin along with Jordan Peterson, Victor David Hanson, Candace Owen's and others ...ah you get it...enjoy

[@janinemackerron2934]

Thankyou! A wonderful interview! Really cheered me up this rainy morning. I would love it to be a generational bridge between myself (almost 70 years old) and my two "scientific" , rather closed ,sons of 40 and 30 something. It would be lovely to be able to have a two-way , curious, conversation about such things.

[@TorMax9]

Watch the interview with your two sons and discuss it. See what they say. Cheers!

[@dimatadore]

I believe in telepathy. I have sleep paralysis sometimes; one day, when I couldn't get my body to wake up along with my mind, I yelled for my mom who was in the next room, with my mind, because I needed her to wake me up (I was terrified, obviously), and she said she heard me calling her, but not through her ears (like a voice in her head) so she thought she was just hearing things and didn't do anything about it. I was so mad at her when I woke up I said "I called you why didn't you come" as if I knew she could hear me. She said next time that happened again she would wake me up. Anyway I don't get sleep paralysis anymore so I haven't had to test it.

[@Bea.Sted.]

I was cheated on last month, the night it happened, i dreamed the exact scenario.. woke up and brushed it off, i see a guy i had never seen, and had a real bad feeling, it was later confirmed (by her) she had slept with this guy, that night.

[@IamCarrieNotBranshaw]

Follow your gut, it never fails.

[@Mumukshatvam]

I can understand. I also have had the sleep paralysis several time

[@AXharoth]

before bed do some light exercises also meditation/relaxation can be good ; stay the fuck away from computer phones an TVs and it will never happened to you again ; dont be mentally/emotionally exhausted before sleep

[@e.m.b2834]

disagree--it has just as much chance as not following your gut -- my "gut instinct" has been right and wrong equally

[@brendonbarratt7551]

18:00 Jungs idea of collective consciousness isn’t that we all tap into each other’s memories! It is ancestral, we have common ancestors that had common experiences and this comes out in common dream symbols today.

[@ultrasentience]

It is true, but requires inner cultivation to realize for most. Some were born with more developed cosmic vision, but the west has strictly denied that we exist before we are born (incarnation of spirit/soul into flesh) and the existence of consciousness, the non physical sentient being. The positive side of this is, we have a great opportunity to experience self-realization from a state of complete ignorance. That is certain to severely disrupt ones belief systems and worldviews however. The lower egomind always battles the process.

[@stephenbrown6069]

Good old Carl. Muddying the waters with his Greek references and such. We live in a virtual reality. There some clues in the language. Archetype = our key types

[@ms.information8747]

Love both of these guys! Sheldrake's "morphic resonance" theory shows both a logical, science-based thinking coupled with an intuitive, free-thinking creativity. Surely all great scientific theories have one hand in each of these seemingly polarized realms of thinking! Materialism cannot fathom realms beyond it.

[@TVmadethemdoit]

Take it as you may but, i used a reapeated "test" where i was able to prove telepathy with my chocolate lab, beyond a reasonable doubt. I was able to show the "test" and successfully completed the challenge multiple times for my friend. That dog "Buddy" could definitely hear my thoughts and proved to hear my commands. I never used my actual voice during these random time of day testing, everything was done so that "chance" were always challenged. Me and Buddy were "in the zone" and quite in tune. I love that dog and miss him 😔

[@kcbryan8134]

My dog buddy can do some crazy things. I swear he knows what I'm saying. And waiting at the door 5 mins before the wife comes home. It's unbelievable

[@ElasticReality]

We just lost the best friend I've ever had a year ago. That dog was my guru, friend, counselor, comedian. Dogs are better than people. I dont think we would know what unconditional love is if not for dogs

[@catherinelaz5587]

Thanks a million for that Russell. I have discovered all that stuff on my own. It goes against the present dogma and people get very defensive even aggressive when you start talking about God having anything to do with the order of things, see nasty comments down below, as expected. Ironically, it is always when people are most resistant that you usually find the truth.

[@reneehoefler370]

There will always be a tremendous amount of ignorance around us. Ignorance is just when we haven't learned something yet. I never learned much about God or his work until I was 45. Better late than never, but I think that should be taught i school rather than some of the stupid crap they teach. If someone wants to learn another language they could do that on their own time. God's word and instruction, that history should be the basis of our early learning. We'd all be so much better off and treat one another so much better.

[@TheWorldTeacher]

F.I.S.H. Paragraph 1. The phenomenal universe which can be detected with our five senses is the manifestation of the unmanifested One Reality which most persons call “God”. Therefore, “God” is not a SEPARATE Person, distinct from His/Her creation but is fully omnipresent in the manifest universe - you, who are reading these words are That! The highest philosophy is known as “panentheism”, that is, God being one with but inconceivably and simultaneously distinct from the material universe. So the One Reality (God) is acting through each and every living creature (as well as the inanimate, to a lesser degree) in order to experience Himself in this play of duality, to which William Shakespeare famously alluded in his work “As You Like It”, when he scribed “All the world’s a stage, and all the men and women merely players.” This “story of life” has been preordained since the beginning of the universe (the so-called “Big Bang”). Therefore, free-will does not exist on the individual level but only on the universal plane, since there is only one Being in existence. To read the remaining thirty-nine paragraphs of “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”, which the God of all gods has graciously given to His Prophet on Earth, email: [e-mail] with the acronym “FISH” in the subject field.

[@ledacedar6253]

awesome! This contributes to my understanding as to why the medical system persists in using a mechanical lens for purely physical treatments instead of transcending to treat us by looking at the food we put into our body/"motor", the problem emotions exhibited are obvious in the physical form, that the energy we have running through the body whether spirit or heart break, it all needs daily human attention to retain grounding, focus and to grow well. No one grows well on pharmaceutical drugs but yes, some relief but more drugs to address side effects from the other drugs that is destined to create a dominoes effect. Similarly, this is visible in how medicine conducts childbirth. A bio-psycho-social framework empowers couples to use their body, mind and support system to enable the baby to be born safely. Midwives work this way as do Doula's because it works and can save a birthing woman from the Cesaerean knife, along with the lack of attachment that forms naturally. "It felt like I had picked him at at the grocery store", the mother told me who after 36 hrs of trying & practicing all the skills and methods to help the babytranscend down the birth canal because she knew she had done everything in her power. The couple had worked as a team to do this cementing their relationships as well. Growing peoples personal power is the most important prescription a doctor can give. My brain's patterns of thinking as a victim of fathers violent attack at 16yrs of age is connected to my arthritis, to my aching leg tendons and my depression that develops due to what the brain thinks is only my physical pain areas and denies all past harms that the body obviously holds onto. The child sexual abuse survivor often shows up, not surprisingly as depressed, Same as Gabor Mate who struggles with depression having been born into a terrifying moment during Hitlers terrorizing his Jewish family.

[@jesseherrera8183]

Excellent discussion. I envy them their command of language and the ease with which they use it to communicate.

[@itoilinks]

yes!

[@jasonfrench3718]

Fantastic isn’t it! I love these types of discussions!

[@henrythoreau645]

I love those two, but the contrast between them is enormous: Rupert with his urbane way of speaking, Russell with his more impulsive working class manner. When he said "why did they want that?" I smiled. He sounded like a happy, curious kid. Another interesting thing was observing the quiet, sometimes amused, attentiveness of the third man in the room.

[@jonbrown2402]

Very profound conversation! I've always liked Russel and am now a fan of Rupert! Great episode!

[@shimahdnb]

Used to love the talks between Rupert & Terence McKenna. Great that Russell has brought him on

[@damirserban]

where can one listen to them are they recorded?

[@shimahdnb]

Damir S. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKeVmGasrturhZY

[@jefolson6989]

I must revisit the McKenna/Sheldrake talks. They require undivided attention or you get hopelessly lost. Same with this conversation.

[@AdrianJohn1956]

Test's are never conducted unless a profit is the goal. The blindness is caused by greed and fear of losing power.

[@ThomasDoubting5]

Always been the way..

[@Labrynthetic]

_Regarding dogs and owners._ Dogs begin to pick up patterns of time, especially when it comes to receiving food. Dogs will not respond to random cars or people prior to when the owner usually comes home. Below are some clues that may alert the dog that the owner will be arriving soon: 1. The level of light in the sky from the window. 2. Sounds of children playing outside _after school._ 3. The owner's natural sound of walking (heavy or light footsteps, etc.) 4. Key sounds. Keys on a ring have a unique sound. 5. The pattern of time.

[@yasomati-stanya-payidasi9991]

Just watched this after being locked down alone for 12 weeks. I didn't feel as though my brain had particularly gone soft, having been studying the Srimad Bhagavatam throughout, but this listening experience made me feel so unusually bright and intelligent do you think that this is a result of morphic resonance? Thank you Russell you may have saved me from a terminal case of aging brain mush. Haribol!

[@ZenDJRen]

Awesome. Massive gratitude, respect & love for both Rupert & Russell 🕊

[@solarstoned]

rupert sheldrake is a proper scientist and thank you russell for having him on your podcast. mucho

[@TheTechNiShan]

Mucho gracias!

[@GuyBaker555]

He is also a proper Christian and he allows his faith to taint his science.

[@GuyBaker555]

I have long since learned not to argue with the faithful. Peace man ;)

[@raymondmeadows5363]

That could be said about Dawkins 'He is a proper Atheist and he allows his faith/beliefs to taint his science.' Science is merely a method of the material world, nothing more and nothing less. Scientific Materialism/Atheism is a philosophy, not a method of observation.

[@2030matrix]

Materialism and atheism is based the collection of data and scientific reasoning. I was like some and had my doubts at first. I took classes in particle physics and brain science and realized particle theory is backed up in every way possible. Also, the brain is a very complex organ and subjectively recreates reality through electrical impulses of the senses/ eyes and ears and sometimes its wrong in its interpretation. Its easy to fool the brain, especially if you feed it misinformation.

[@thomvogan3397]

My wife was a PSW who provided home care for people, covering a large rural area. Her client load was always different so she would get home at different times every day. Our dog adored her. I always knew when she was on her way home because our dog would suddenly get up and sit in front of the door and 15 or 20 minutes later my wife would walk in. I'm talking every time. They have both passed on now and I miss them every moment but I know they are still together. Love does not end

[@tripzville7569]

Such a Beautiful post distant friend, thank you for sharing . Blessings to you from Auckland, New Zealand.

[@DaniHMcV]

I find Rupert Sheldrake's theory really interesting and it seems this "morphic resonance" could answer quite a few of some phenomenon that we might have seen ourselves that conventional scientists can't explain like how Monarch butterflies and certain birds migrate to the same places each year, despite never having been there; whales commit suicide en masse and intend to it; whales singing and teaching that song to other whales; lightning bugs that blink in perfect unison; turtles returning to beaches where they were hatched....so many things that seems to involve complicated navigation systems or conversation between each other. It certainly does seem to be a memory in nature that is not explained by having a complex brain. It makes a lot of sense but I don't see mainstream science adopting that idea anytime soon. It explains things in a way that is not guided by concrete scientific laws and that will always be challenged.

[@DaniHMcV]

And just so no one thinks I'm a Bible-thumper, I am an atheistic geologist (I've seen tons of evidence that the earth is older than 6000 years or whatever it is those CreationisT nuts say. But I do believe that there is a lot that science can't explain yet and these experiences may be due to tuning into certain frequencies than we as humans donnitnfind natural but we occasionally do it, or another sense we indeed have that isn't recognized yet. Animals seem to possess other senses or heightened states of the senses that we share. All objects have a frequency (or set of) that it vibrates at. Perhaps we sense someone is in a room with us because we can be in tune to those vibrations or waves.

[@fka_the_body1542]

That is the point of science though to be able to explain these phenomena..

[@thatwhichbeholds4933]

Mainstream "Science" is likened to a sloth, in speed, and a brick wall, in comprehension and flexibility of thought - very slow to change on its own (due to environmental conditions) and only done quickly with great force and upheaval. More or less, it's a religion. Quite often, these "scientists" are far too invested in keeping the same old line going, with tenures, grant money and the like hanging in the balance. As if those things do anything other than help their societal survivability. It's certainly no evidence of them being right about anything, just that they stayed with the usual program to not rock the boat, thereby garnering for themselves longer periods of increased material comfort and conveniences. Regarding our brains, most of our memory isn't even stored in our brains. The rest of our body houses far and away more memory than any of our brains ever could. Please, do not believe, but seek answers for yourself. It's not difficult to see that nothing important is in the mainstream anything. Only tiny glimpses here and there are evident. Given time, the new generations will see it through. It's already slowly taking shape. The "great majority" (ie. blind followers/believers) will come along for the ride; hopefully gaining some insight and realizations along the way.

[@sib923]

Absolutely fantastic work and as the dr says at 22mins we have known these principles for generations but 'western' dogma wants to attach less to this. Fascinating!

[@gamgee3393]

Incredible interview this, missed this one, was surprised when I saw it was 4 years ago. Would love to see a discussion with Rupert again.

[@ubertroopertv1557]

I lived with multiple dogs all my life and horses most of it, and I can tell you without question that they communicate on some form of telepathic level. I’ve watched it all my life and always claimed as much to those around me. People close to me have called me nuts, but those people just haven’t watched close enough. But they absolutely do.

[@tripzville7569]

Thank you for sharing . I believe you, without any doubt.

[@williamhoskins7818]

I love how they would " get together, and just talk with each other for several days, cause that's what we enjoyed " . Wish our politicians would do this , psychedelics and every thing,

[@earlbaker6657]

Oh how I agree! Is this Bo Hoskins the actor? And plz b honest ty.

[@williamhoskins7818]

@@earlbaker6657 no , not a wealthy good looking, British actor, definitely an anglophile. Thanks.

[@roseofsharon7189]

Thank you Russel and Rupert that was an amazingly enlightening podcast. I could have listened to you guys talking for hours. I will be sure to get a copy of Ruperts book, it sounds wonderful and intriguing. 🥰❤✌

[@gwolf9642]

What did you find enlightening about it?

[@verslanglais]

Love this interview. One of the most thorough chats I've seen with Rupert, one of my heroes!

[@Birdracer22]

When I was about 14 or so, I woke from a vivid nightmare. In the morning my brother told me of the craziest dream he had. It was down to precise detail the same dream that I had just dreamt. Don't ask me how or why, but it was exactly the same dream. That still amazes me to this day, the chance of that by chance is between zero and infinity.

[@mattyvishez]

Amazing interview, loved the subject matter. Its great to have a man of science give such great insight into his understanding of consciousness and spirituality. Brilliant, just brilliant. Love your work as always Russell. Thank you so much for your interest in this field also, Rupert. 💪🏼🤘🏼

[@jeremyponcy5065]

Sciencific investigation began as a means to open up the universe to mankind but is unfortunately now being manipulated to close off the human spirit.

[@ashleylaw]

Yes..Listen up...kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqjEfnWPaNZ4d5Y

[@andregregoire1175]

Don t worry ,human brains will continue to evolve ,right to the last human.Collective conscience becomes very powerful and supersedes individual consciences.For example flat Earthers vs reality .

[@brightwellkunene8995]

@@vids595 Why do you want people to discontinue their beliefs, exactly?. What are they going to benefit from your falsifications or failure of?

[@ab_0201]

Science is the most rational and logical vehicle compared to other sources which force irrational ideas in the name of righteous ideology, I don't see how science has closed the human spirit by providing evidence and facts to back theories and it does not in essence have any angle or benefit, it is not a control mechanism

[@TheVeek192]

People can make choices about their spirits. Science is not the "boss."

[@Grant-wg5hr]

Russell’s interviewing manner is much more present now then when this interview was done.

[@BAJLK]

Rupert and Russel. My two favorite people. This was fantastic, thank you!

[@angelayerkovich3077]

This conversation makes me feel very emotional - it is like an act of liberation. Hard to explain, maybe someone else understands and can explain it better than I can.

[@manunoyonify]

Probably it gives you a purpose.

[@miapax1962]

Because somewhere deep within you you know it’s the truth. Check out Dr Joe Dispenza too

[@Professional_Nobody]

I love ruperts book about psychic dogs. It’s all true stories and so well written. I think I cried. I definitely started looking at dogs differently. Then, when my Pomeranian died, I was so distraught, I nearly lost my mind…then I saw her ghost and felt at peace. Read his book if you love doggos!

[@KeithFurrow]

Wow Russell I’m very impressed with your intelligence. Thank you for being cutting edge! I love Dr Sheldrake.

[@davidkincade7161]

I only have seen him on clownish soundbite talk shows... I’m impressed.

[@annmyers9546]

Loved this conversation. Russell you speak from the heart, actually I think your words and thoughts are coming from the universal consciousness

[@thegeneralstrike6747]

All life is priceless. All life is truly miraculous. The sooner we gather and own those 2 principles despite the narrative pounded down our collective throats the sooner we can develop the abilities that all conscience minds are capable of. "One who drinks from my well shall never thirst again." JC Our soul has a most sacred task to perform, for we and ALL LIFE are the physical manifestation of the Holy Spirit, all that is sacred, and the ability to allow all life to exist without our intervention.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

Where did you get the idea it's sacred and what does it mean?

[@tpstrat14]

Sheldrake seems so incredibly calm, contented and balanced. I hope Russell Brand learns from this wise soul on their walk to Westminster Abbey

[@lauragiles4245]

I love Rupert and Russel does a wonderful job interviewing him. A fruitful conversation!!!!

[@karinknol5537]

Great interview! Love being challenged to new thoughts. As an atheist I am weary of any believe in a god, but on the other hand the sense of spirituality, an living earth, conscious matter appeals to me and resonates. Certainly I wil start to read some of the works of Rupert Sheldrake!

[@fustigate151]

THIS is the truth I have always known. This is why I have had so much trouble participating in the facade.

[@smmm5559]

Amanda Russell 100%

[@alanmitten1919]

Life is about balance....

[@naked.singularity]

@johnnyboyfart - Loser

[@forreal245]

@@naked.singularity EVERY time I see something written against the rules, I report it (them). He is gone!

[@mechabits197]

#Me2

[@hywelevans3293]

Wonderful conversation. Love these two

[@gillraven-pipes4930]

A brilliant interview, thank you Russell and Rupert. A lot resonated with my own beliefs about nature and 'God' , although I still have a distrust of scientists. Enjoy your walk to the Cathedral both of you, and your cream tea! Hope I get to read Rupert's book!

[@gwolf9642]

Why do you distrust scientists but are open to the ideas they discuss here?

[@gillraven-pipes4930]

@@gwolf9642 it,s good to keep an open mind, and as I said, a lot resonated with my own beliefs about nature and 'God'

[@Elizabeth-arb22]

What a wonderful interview! I have so much respect for both of you, Russell Brand, and Rupert Sheldrake. Thank you!

[@theunspeakable24]

Russel, you cheer me up on my way to the boneyard!!

[@carlodave9]

I'm trying to figure out how he knew I wasn't listening to this on a cathedral.

[@lancelotdufrane]

Absolutely loved this. A great exchange of concept and ideas, is like candy! Very casual interesting, conversation. Well Done! Thank you.

[@quemoiettoi]

What a beautiful worthwhile hour or so to pass

[@teerjerk]

I love hearing quotes like "look to see where religious people are right" in your interviews. All dots connected

[@bettyrobinson2728]

Where are they right??