Christianity and Unknowing, Richard Rohr

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Science and Nonduality

Science and Nonduality

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Richard Rohr, as a Catholic priest and Franciscan Friar, will offer a concise history of how Western Christianity once had, soon lost, tried to retrieve, and now is roundly rediscovering its own traditional understanding of unitive consciousness (which was our word for non-dual thinking). The Christian contemplative mind was usually a subtext, and yet it was always clearly there too, and much closer to the surface, but only for those exposed to the mystical base that was revealed in the Gospel of John, the Desert Fathers and Mothers, the Celtic and monastic traditions, and what was generally referred to as the apophatic or wisdom stream of Christianity. These were our many saints and mystics. This possibility was brought to the fore by Thomas Merton in the middle of the last century, and is now flowing in many positive directions. It is now our task to rediscover the pre-Enlightenment Christianity that reveled in "the cloud of unknowing", what some called "learned ignorance", and the very notion of Mystery itself. Only when we got into competition with rationalism and secularism, did we adopt this rather recent mania for certitude and a very limited kind of scientific knowing. Almost the entire history of Protestantism emerged in this period, and thus the contemplative mind is an utterly new revelation for them, and frankly for all of us, as we again learn to be comfortable living on the edge of both the knowable and the unknown.
Fr. Richard Rohr is a globally recognized ecumenical teacher bearing witness to the universal awakening within Christian mysticism and the Perennial Tradition. He is a Franciscan priest of the New Mexico Province and founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation (CAC) in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Fr. Richard’s teaching is grounded in the Franciscan alternative orthodoxy-practices of contemplation and self-emptying, expressing itself in radical compassion, particularly for the socially marginalized. Fr. Richard is the author of numerous books, including Everything Belongs, Adam’s Return, The Naked Now, Breathing Under Water, Falling Upward, Immortal Diamond, and Eager to Love: The Alternative Way of Francis of Assisi.

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@peacefulmind8991
@peacefulmind8991 2 жыл бұрын
I came here because of Ram Dass. He said that it would be helpful to connect with the faith that one is born in. I am encouraged to learn of the mystical nature of Christianity and look forward to learning more from this teacher.
@harryjohnson1
@harryjohnson1 Жыл бұрын
If you get a chance, have a look at John crowder and his books!
@mariab.cuevas7523
@mariab.cuevas7523 Жыл бұрын
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@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 Жыл бұрын
@ericberry5314 Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
@KM-zn3lx
@KM-zn3lx 10 ай бұрын
​​@ericberry5314I am the way, the Truth and the Life, no one can get to the Father except through me. Jesus Christ the Only Begotten Son of God, said this. Buddhists don't believe in a God who takes a personal interest in his creation. I left Catholicism because of wolves like Rohr. Sad because the Pope is like him. No Christ consciousness. Only Christ. You won't believe me but I say this with love, please read the Bible for yourself. I pray for these lost progressive "Charlatans."
@KM-zn3lx
@KM-zn3lx 10 ай бұрын
​@@theguyver4934ok if the Disciples and Jesus were vegetarians why did Jesus eat fish with his Disciples? Also one of his parables mentions a father cooking a fatted calf for a feast...
@wax7550
@wax7550 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you to people like Richard who are doing this in all religions. Trying to find some unity
@elizholden47
@elizholden47 7 ай бұрын
Fr. Rohr has changed my life ❤
@GingerSpice37
@GingerSpice37 27 күн бұрын
That's unfortunate
@crct2004
@crct2004 4 жыл бұрын
The most difficult struggle of my life, witch has been riddled with tragedy, loss, and suffering has been with my attachment to having an intellect. I used to read the bible and see it one way until life broke me down so low that I lost all confidence in what I thought I knew. Now I read it and receive a completely different understanding. It starts from the very beginning of the bible - the knowledge of good and evil and is beautifully, though arduously, shown in the story of Job. When we think we know what is right and wrong not only are we unteachable but we loose our connection to the divine mystery of life. He is defining beautifully where Christianity has missed the point of the teachings of Jesus. I see a few teachers emerging that are helping unify science and theology and it is wonderful to witness. I came back to God through physics, NDE stories and Eckhart Tolle teachings and I am so grateful for the suffering that humbled me to open me up to learning rather than showing everyone how smart I was. My ego still messes with me constantly but at least I can recognize and maybe someday the dang thing ill give it a rest, lol.
@M-i-k-a-e-l
@M-i-k-a-e-l 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this.
@jasonamattatall
@jasonamattatall 4 жыл бұрын
I second this. I am in a similar journey now.
@deniss2623
@deniss2623 3 жыл бұрын
The teachings of Jesus, Christine? If you read the Bible honestly, and the words of Jesus regarding Himself in particular, you would weep for your lost condition and ask Him to save you. We accept Him or reject Him - we do not attempt to fit Him into our own preferred religion. This is NOT Christianity. This is NOT the True Gospel. It is a Satanic counterfeit. Please believe me. Your very soul is at stake - and I care.
@xrisc131
@xrisc131 Жыл бұрын
This is my story too but recently. Where are you now?
@crct2004
@crct2004 Жыл бұрын
@@deniss2623 I said they lead me back to God. The Lord definitely works in mysterious ways. A piece of advice for you would be to find a different approach because if you would have said that to me before I came back to our Lord I would have just thought you sound like a parrot. Sometimes you have to share the truth in ways that people can receive it. What seems perfectly logical to you may not seem so to someone who is not where you are in your faith.
@aclem63
@aclem63 5 жыл бұрын
I cannot say how much Richard Rohr has renewed my faith (beyond doctrine).
@mwngw
@mwngw 5 жыл бұрын
The same for me...ex-Catholic, ex-Evangelical...but a believer.
@marybarrett9902
@marybarrett9902 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Me also. God is gracious to us. Even when we think we know something. Jesus said on the cross, Father forgive them, they don’t Know what they are doing. Salvation maybe begins when we say, I don’t know. Christianity has to be more then the accumulation of information, That I can rap my ego around and become, THE WALKING BIBLE!! 🤣. My theology has become very simple, “God is love, and those who serve him must serve him in love”, 1John 4:7. In that I can, move with my evangelical friends, and my Catholic friends, without trying to fix them. It’s a very restful place to be.(John B).
@EVa-fj5et
@EVa-fj5et 4 жыл бұрын
"Beyond doctrine" is still doctrine. It is doctrine for itching ears.
@jamestoole5806
@jamestoole5806 23 күн бұрын
@@EVa-fj5et Your comment does not arise from the Holy Spirit, it arises out of your ego to protect your humanistic view.
@EVa-fj5et
@EVa-fj5et 23 күн бұрын
@@jamestoole5806 It came from the Bible, little one.
@shamanic_nostalgia
@shamanic_nostalgia Жыл бұрын
One of the most underrated thinkers of our time 🍄✝️🍄✝️🍄✝️🍄✝️🍄✝️🍄✝️
@halwarner3326
@halwarner3326 5 жыл бұрын
" God is not a being. He is being" I like that one. Namaste
@claudelebel49
@claudelebel49 4 жыл бұрын
Pure 'I Amness'
@M-i-k-a-e-l
@M-i-k-a-e-l 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe both.
@thedisintegrador
@thedisintegrador 3 жыл бұрын
That’s entirely scholastic view. Thomas Aquinas equates God with “ipsum esse”, pure Being. Roman Catholic Church still has Thomas’s philosophy at its core
@uranomichiaruki1
@uranomichiaruki1 3 жыл бұрын
I am that I am.
@domin1ca
@domin1ca 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Richard Rohr. Really connecting to this teaching... a movement away from dualistic (right and wrong) thinking to contemplation and contemplative prayer -- contentment for me and a new more profound meaning of what it means to rest! His words remind me of a favorite poet, Rumi, "Out beyond our ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there..."
@fakename3208
@fakename3208 2 жыл бұрын
When you get there tell Hitler and Nietzsche I said “hey”.
@PABWECG
@PABWECG 4 жыл бұрын
I have read Richard's most recent book, "The Universal Christ" and heard him speak on his accompanying blog: Another Name for Every Thing. But this little talk has got to be one of my very favorites. Thanks for sharing this.
@Magik1369
@Magik1369 Жыл бұрын
I was raised a Catholic but then experienced a profound kundalini or spiritual awakening and had a direct encounter with Source Light. The Spirit I encountered was ecstatic, joyful, blissful, loving, and so so good! I still love the teachings of Jesus and believe he was an Enlightened Sage who taught the path to awakening and the Kingdom of G-d. I don't identify with any religion or specific teaching but still study Christian mystics, the Yogis, Sri Aurobindo, Michael Washburn, Ken Wilber, and Spiral Dynamic. I don't hold to any labels, belief systems, or ideologies anymore. I think Jesus came to unburden people from dualistic rules and adherence to a specific religion.
@nmendez14
@nmendez14 19 күн бұрын
Yes, and YES!!!!! Same!!!!! Raised "catholic"--never believed any of it and also had my kundalini awakened ❤
@celineghiara9674
@celineghiara9674 3 жыл бұрын
You are the best teacher. Dear father Richard. God bless you.
@remurraymd
@remurraymd 7 жыл бұрын
Christ never knew he was a Christian his way was "The Way The Truth The Life" a non dualistic concept at its essential best. "Wear material life as loose garment that can be discarded at any time"
@matthewdyer2926
@matthewdyer2926 3 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot the rest of that verse- “No one comes to the father except through me” Is that non-dualistic?
@remurraymd
@remurraymd 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewdyer2926 Sure it is Christ's way of saying his precise way was truth and could be found through him . Of course Christ said no such thing exactly he spoke Aramaic not english just as he did not know he was a Christian so this is never a direct quote of anything that he actually said. just another paraphrasing written in greek and latin and then english of what he said in Aramaic that know one actually knew precisely or heard him say. Most of what he actually said is lost.
@matthewdyer2926
@matthewdyer2926 3 жыл бұрын
@@remurraymd well that’s convenient! Now you can feel at liberty to make Christ into whatever you fancy! I bet your christ is a lot like you, and the two of you agree on just about everything, am I right? When you abandon truth for relativistic nonsense, you rob yourself of solid ground to stand on and you despise the true Christ. Don’t be fooled. God Most High is not mocked, nor is he made in your image, nor does he exist in your imagination so as to be molded into something more agreeable to you. Repent.
@marksandsmith6778
@marksandsmith6778 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewdyer2926 blue on blue fights are the worst.
@motogrey3707
@motogrey3707 3 жыл бұрын
Fundamentalist gnosis is the worst John 10:10 always has been a problem in my spirit. Once again, religious group setting themselves up as my way or the highway Brings nothing but death to the community Or perhaps you can explain the strange unholy alliance between fundamentalism and Donald Trump. Palease! Happy day fellow sojouner 👊🤠
@JNeil1975
@JNeil1975 3 жыл бұрын
True Christianity being taught! Thank you, Richard Rohr! I also admire Marcus Borg.
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 2 жыл бұрын
I pray that Yahweh protects true Christianity revives it and makes it flourish till the day of resurrection respect from a Muslim
@HoldFastApolpgetics
@HoldFastApolpgetics 2 жыл бұрын
True Christianity is what was taught by Jesus and his disciples: that He was the messiah, God’s only Son, Lord. He was crucified (fact admitted by most scholars) and had an empty tomb (also confirmed by most…even Ehrman and John D Crossan). This belief was why those believers were martyred and persecuted by Saul and others. Again, please research the evidence. A separate Christ was formulated by the Gnostics
@oscar3490
@oscar3490 Жыл бұрын
@@HoldFastApolpgetics what rubbish
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 Жыл бұрын
@@HoldFastApolpgetics Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secret text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim [ line of ismail ]
@JamesDirette
@JamesDirette 5 ай бұрын
@@theguyver4934 You’re a muslm and you don’t believe in hell??
@katkat2340
@katkat2340 4 жыл бұрын
You reaffirm what I have always known deep in my heart and soul🙏🏽
@peacelovejoy8786
@peacelovejoy8786 2 жыл бұрын
You always know the truth when you hear it! Happy you hear it here... God doesn't judge anyone or anything! God is! Only Love exists
@katherinebicicchi4678
@katherinebicicchi4678 6 жыл бұрын
This man has been my teacher (through writings, etc.) for the last four years. My life has been changed by his words. Would that all of us who engage in our crazy, tribal politics these days would hear and apply these thoughts and ways of being into our lives. Wish we could start defining our commonalities and common goals. The world would then be a more wonderful place.
@lukejohnson7699
@lukejohnson7699 7 жыл бұрын
Yesterday, I found a book by this dude that I purchased years ago, but never read. Today, I find this KZbin video of Mr. Rohr speaking(and I was not searching for him specifically or what he is talking about).
@stateofawakening1457
@stateofawakening1457 4 жыл бұрын
Synchronicity 🙂
@tomaswheaton15
@tomaswheaton15 4 жыл бұрын
Luke Johnson wow
@scutty4022
@scutty4022 4 жыл бұрын
I'm unsubscribing. You need someone to talk to?
@sunnyland3952
@sunnyland3952 4 жыл бұрын
@I'm unsubscribing. He found a physical, printed book - nothing to do with algorithms. Are you impressing yourself wih your rudeness?
@WilliamLetzkus
@WilliamLetzkus 3 жыл бұрын
A case of Divine Providence perhaps. Dr. Why
@michaelmahaffey6563
@michaelmahaffey6563 4 жыл бұрын
Richards explanation has brought freedom to the conflicts between my mind and heart
@howard1beale
@howard1beale Жыл бұрын
My AA sponsor suggested I check this out as we are working on step 3. I'm actually Jewish but strictly non denominational. Maybe thats why I really like your take on things. Thank you
@sethlee1017
@sethlee1017 3 жыл бұрын
What's interesting is, as someone who was born Southern Baptist but converted to the Catholic Church later in life, this is exactly how I perceived Catholicism. As a theologically rich mystical experience. Something about how the Catholic Church also held Mary, the Apostles, the Church Fathers, etc., all to such high esteem made the figure of Christ appear much more special. All these pivotal figures, St. Augustine, St. Athanasius, St. Anthony the Great, Brother Lawrence, St. Thomas Aquinas, St. John of the Cross, St. Teresa of Avila, St. Ephrem, Meister Eckhart, St. Maximus the Confessor, the Friends of God, St. Francis of Assisi, St. Ignatius of Loyola, Duns Scotus, Pseudo-Dionysius, Origen, Tertullian, St. Catherine of Siena, Fulton J. Sheen, St. Clement of Rome, St. Benedict of Nursia, St. Justin Martyr, St. Anthony of Padua, all of the prophets and Christ’s apostles, and the Virgin Mary, among many others, have all played such major parts in developing the fullness of the Catholic faith, that when recognizing their sheer magnitude, you can't help but feel it pales in comparison to that of the figure of Christ. The Baptist Church never could provoke such an experience of awe and mystery as the Catholic Church could simply because they asserted who Christ exactly was and exactly what you are to do. Christ was this totalitarian dictator of sins and his love and forgiveness were reserved to only those subordinate to him. That's how it felt to me. Of course, the Catholic Church has its doctrines and dogmas, but the theology alone made all the difference. In Catholicism, Christ didn't feel like a dictator that I MUST submit to like the Baptist Church made me feel, instead, he felt like a teacher, a best friend, a king, and instead of being told to follow, I felt inclined to follow. The sheer magnitude of Christ induced mystery, awe, wonder, humility, and faith. The idea of a “personal connection with God”, something I had always been told to strive for in the Baptist Church, really felt possible in Catholic Church. But Baptist theology led me to believe a personal connection was supposed to feel like the type of connection I have with my friends or family. That prayer was supposed to resemble a face-to-face dialogue. Whereas in the Catholic Church, the type of connection was, instead, the disillusionment of subject and object, and prayer was a moment to contemplate in that disillusionment. So, even though I did study the Catechism and other magisterial work, as well as some boring apologetics, I was more interested in the philosophy, theology, and mysticism of Catholicism. I was more intrigued by spirituality than by doctrines. I was so invested that I began practicing before I was baptized as a Catholic convert. My priest actually had me take private lessons with him instead of going through RCIA because of how obsessively I studied and practiced before committing. Every practice felt mystical, and something in me made me feel that this was how the Church Fathers and other theologians and mystics must’ve felt. Then, for the first time, I attended Eucharistic Adoration, and I fully let go and I just felt absorbed. Be it the Holy Spirit or whatever, but I cried in the middle of my meditation, and that was my first glimpse of non-duality. I later encountered the word, and instantly, I resonated with it. The word itself captured the sensation I felt, unfortunately, I can't capture the sensation to explain what the word non-duality feels like. Now, I'm a lil shakey with my faith, and I am trying to go through the works of the saints, mystics, and theologians, regardless if I lose my faith, non-duality is fundamental to my worldview, and I have Catholicism to thank for that. Particularly, the works of Aquinas and Scotus, for giving me an intellectual outline of the nature of God, along with the works of the mystics like John of the Cross, Brother Lawrence, and the Friends of God, who gave me an outline to experience the nature of God. Edit: this isn't meant to talk bad about the Southern Baptist Church! This is just my testimony of discovering non-duality through Catholicism.
@LB-rc3nt
@LB-rc3nt Жыл бұрын
You really don't need to make this so complicated Seth. If you're looking for awe and mystical experience with God; Just believe on Jesus, turn away from sin with your whole heart, and turn to the Lord for his forgiveness; by saying OUT LOUD, with meaning; "Lord Jesus please save me, take over my life, and be my Lord " "Whosoever calls on the name of the Lord, shall be saved" For if you "believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead and confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus; you will be saved. For with the heart man believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." (Romans 10: 9-10) , Knowing God in a real and meaningful way, first begins with being born again, born from above, born of the Holy Spirit; for God is Spirit. Then, the Spirit of God can lead you into all truth. Experiencing knowing God is a work of the Holy Spirit. Some religious structures try to replace this mystical work of the Spirit with their structures, liturgies, sacraments, rules, so called special saints and mystics, and also mere intellectualism . But what is truly needed is "the presence of the Spirit of God, 'being imparted into the temple of your body"!!! This happens by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. Some people instead try every known religious tradition and system and philosophy of thought, and still come up lacking the meaningful life transforming relationship with God, that they are really longing for. I pray you come to know Him deeply Seth, by the presence of his Spirit coming to take up residence in you..Jesus told the disciples, "He {the Holy Spirit) is WITH you, 'BUT', He SHALL BE IN YOU!!! Tarry in Jerusalem till you be endued with power from on high!!!" This is where the AWE OF RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD begins!! May you be carried in his love, into this sacred knowing;... and thus be blessed to worship him, in Spirit and in Truth...
@abstubeindia6979
@abstubeindia6979 3 жыл бұрын
If xitians had accepted non duality then Jesus would have become another enlightened being among so many. But churchianity defamed him
@st.mephisto8564
@st.mephisto8564 3 жыл бұрын
Right! Christianity definitely degraded further and further into dualism.
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 2 жыл бұрын
@@st.mephisto8564 - But that doesn't mean it can't be revived and I'm saying that as a Muslim
@peacelovejoy8786
@peacelovejoy8786 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Richard you've showed up right on time. The world needs you more than ever! Lot's of Christians actually fear God and believe in an actual hell. It's too bad because their missing out on the truth... Love has no religion 🙏❤✨ Diving deeper into things - ck out "Buddha at the Gas Pump" KZbin channel w/Rick Archer 👍
@debbiezenaida
@debbiezenaida 6 жыл бұрын
I have read so many of his books. He is incredible ... Love him!
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 2 жыл бұрын
One question is there hope for the christian faith to be revived and flourish till the day of resurrection
@DiscoverJesus
@DiscoverJesus Жыл бұрын
@@theguyver4934 this ain't the Christian faith
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 Жыл бұрын
@@DiscoverJesus Then what is
@DiscoverJesus
@DiscoverJesus Жыл бұрын
@@theguyver4934 try Pastor Conlon Carter for a few sermons and you'll see the huge distinction
@JamesDirette
@JamesDirette 5 ай бұрын
@@DiscoverJesus So listen to your guy for the truth? I mean the ridiculousness of that s astounding
@SolveEtCoagula93
@SolveEtCoagula93 5 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful man. The world needs thousands of copies of him and then maybe, just maybe, we will move forwards. I humbly bow to you Richard.
@kinglear5952
@kinglear5952 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful man and a beautiful mind, I agree.
@deniss2623
@deniss2623 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful man? Full to the brim with pride, and pride is the image of the Devil.
@SolveEtCoagula93
@SolveEtCoagula93 3 жыл бұрын
@@deniss2623 😂😂😂😂😂
@elsh332
@elsh332 2 жыл бұрын
You should humbly bow to Christ, and not the one Richard Rohr preaches.
@SolveEtCoagula93
@SolveEtCoagula93 2 жыл бұрын
@@elsh332 Why can I not bow to both? One out of deep respect for his wisdom and insight, the other as the Son of God?
@GeorgeTrialonis
@GeorgeTrialonis 7 жыл бұрын
Finally, a Christian priest who makes sense to me. Thank you!
@joywisdom6598
@joywisdom6598 6 жыл бұрын
George Trialonis oh my 😔
@arigirl4536
@arigirl4536 6 жыл бұрын
That is ^exactly^ what I said!
@adrianaarzac7987
@adrianaarzac7987 6 жыл бұрын
George Trialonis e
@samhill8552
@samhill8552 5 жыл бұрын
@Brian Jett Amen, very well said. I'm also finding it amazing that those of us who do insist on certainty and knowledge of this all; don't also search so diligently to see where our Christian beliefs have evolved from. We are afraid to see if "these things are really so." We just have been handed down Westernized views of how this and that are interpreted, and ran with it. I'm on my own deconstructing journey, and it's amazing to see how much I've been told and taught are truths; that are fairly new doctrines and teachings in the broader scope of things. I'm realising we focus a lot more on the non-essentials, than who they all pointy to:Jesus. We follow at times, everyone and everything else..besides Him in a sense. Because He is quite contradicting compared to most of what the ancient Jews had in mind. Not to mention many of our own current teachers. We might still be missing Him, expecting Him to look like this or that. When He's been in front of us all along. We just can't approve of people being accepted without merit of any sorts(reminds me of the parable of the wages; the one's who worked all day were pissed that the one's who worked less..got the same wages lol). Or like the priest and devout man on their way to temple; passing by the man in need. But they had to pray and sing to God right? To listen and hear the "Word"? Yet shockingly, it was the "hell-bound", unlearned, heathen Samaritan Jesus said was doing His Word. Same with the two men who went to temple to pray. It was the one who was just honest with God and himself. Transparent. Genuine. Ugly mess inside and all. He Jesus said was right. Then the one who thought he had a monopoly on truth, comparing himself, his "salvation" in a sense to the "sinner."...it was the unlikely one that Jesus said went away justified. Still to this day..our pride is a problem. We dare not study, strive, pray, do acts ot kindness..and then THESE people get grace? Not the same amount of grace at least right?
@yanexsynegron1083
@yanexsynegron1083 4 жыл бұрын
this man is not a christian. Not what a true christian is suppose to be.
@marioborg4952
@marioborg4952 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a relief to hear a Catholic Priest touch on this subject like this. I feel like I belong again. Thank You!
@amossmith9025
@amossmith9025 6 жыл бұрын
This is a great overview of non-dual or unitive thinking as it developed in Christian tradition. To ground this non-dual approach in theology of Jesus see my last book, Healing The Divide: Recovering Christianity's Mystic Roots. In that book I explore Oriental Orthodox non-dual theology of Jesus (Miaphysite in Greek). In my book I translate Miaphysite in the English phrase: The Jesus Paradox. This theology was developed by The Alexandrian Mystics (Alexandrian Fathers) between the 3rd and 5th centuries. #ChristianMysticism #CenteringPrayer #JesusParadox -Amos Smith
@toomanydonuts
@toomanydonuts 6 ай бұрын
Hello Richard I hope you read this comment. I bet you read these passages the same way. I have not listened to the whole video yet. I wanted to share this with you and I am wondering whether or not you mention Jeremiah Chapter one yet in the video. I just wanted to copy and paste something I wrote down to remember. God told Jeremiah the prophet in the first chapter of Jeremiah that he knew Jeremiah (consciousness) before he was in his mother's belly (body). God told Jeremiah "Before I formed you in the womb I set you apart." and God said, "You must go to everyone I send you to and say whatever I command you." God is telling Jeremiah here that Jeremiah (consciousness) will go to "whom he is sent (body) and he will speak the words God commands him to (shared consciousness). God said, "I set you apart from the whole (one) and I sent you Jeremiah (consciousness) to whom you are (body). He then told Jeremiah (consciousness) that he made Jeremiah to be a prophet to nations(body). God told Jeremiah that the words that come from Jeremiah's mouth belong to God (one), Jeremiah said. "And the LORD said to me, “Behold, I have put my words in your mouth." and the Lord then said, "Do not be afraid of the looks on their faces for I am with you beside you." God is with Jeremiah. (shared consciousness) We are told that we are set apart from the one in the womb. The "all is one" concept is ancient Hindu wisdom and can be explained also by using quantum science. Quantum entanglement is a foundational concept in QM that means all matter is entangled as one. The concept of all is one was proven over a hundred years ago! But so controversial that the Nobel in Physics was not awarded until 2022. Today many people do not pay much attention to the paranormal but empirical evidence of a collective consciousness exists. Anomalies like remote viewing have been backed by decades of research and statistical analysis. Things are changing quickly. People are seeing science as the "new religion." And that religion is the way many people account for the things they do not yet understand. When I read Jeremiah Chapter one, this message seems clear.
@mikemosscounsellingsupervi2349
@mikemosscounsellingsupervi2349 2 жыл бұрын
So refreshing to hear you.Thank you for introducing me to unitive consciousness.
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 2 жыл бұрын
I pray that Yahweh protects true Christianity revives it and makes it flourish till the day of resurrection respect from a Muslim
@jameyd.9563
@jameyd.9563 7 жыл бұрын
Already a fan of Father Rohr. This talk was very well received. Liked the Deus - Zeus connection and that when Christianity moved from the catacombs to the basilica after 300AD, the requirements of an imperial religion imposed a concrete christ, a christ who could help maintain order. Also like that early Franciscans taught the first bible was creation, some 14 billion years ago. Peace.
@Ryahan
@Ryahan 4 жыл бұрын
1 John 4:1-6 (ESV): Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
@joshgiraud
@joshgiraud 7 жыл бұрын
Richard's words are so beautiful I think I'm going to cry
@EVa-fj5et
@EVa-fj5et 4 жыл бұрын
Doctrine for itching ears.
@hermenutic
@hermenutic 7 жыл бұрын
Can't say I've enjoyed a youtube presentation anymore than this one.
@rogerwhittaker1789
@rogerwhittaker1789 7 жыл бұрын
This man Richard makes un-knowability easy to digest and accept, because of his style and presentation and above all learned wisdom.
@JakeTiesler
@JakeTiesler 2 жыл бұрын
We need him and Jordan Peterson together
@climateactionurgent6116
@climateactionurgent6116 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Beautiful and inspiring!
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 2 жыл бұрын
I pray that Yahweh protects true Christianity revives it and makes it flourish till the day of resurrection respect from a Muslim
@MrKmatwick
@MrKmatwick 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for clearing up so many questions that Ive always had.
@mwngw
@mwngw 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, Christendom needs so many more thinkers like Fr. Rohr.
@DocJoby
@DocJoby 5 жыл бұрын
I thought this word fell out of use? Christopher Hitchens seemed to think so.
@webslinger527
@webslinger527 3 жыл бұрын
@@DocJoby All Christopher Hitchens to do was just insult people he never really re-bottled people, and many have pointing that out. Mostly tells atheist what they want to hear and not really what they need to hear he’s part of the New Age atheism that was a disapprove anything that could have any semblance of Christianity.
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 Жыл бұрын
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secret text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim [ line of ismail ]
@mwngw
@mwngw Жыл бұрын
@@theguyver4934 ...my proclamation that the Trinity is the foundational nature of God is unwavering. If I as a Christian in your presence were to tell you Jesus was the material embodiment of the Infinite God, would you call me a blasphemer, and exact your "Muslim" judgement upon this "infidel," or would you respect my opinion?
@ettorezuccarino1470
@ettorezuccarino1470 7 жыл бұрын
Fr. Richard, seems pretty evident to me that you are transcending religious denomination... going beyond them to the very core of indivisible Oneness!
@andrewbeaulac9862
@andrewbeaulac9862 7 жыл бұрын
I am immensely encouraged by Rohr's talk. So glad to hear others talking about this, and so clearly!
@db-333
@db-333 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation , thank you ! This needs to understood by many ✝️🕉✡️
@db-333
@db-333 7 жыл бұрын
yes, we/all is one. hard concept to grasp living in 3D, human form . In reality it is very, assessable 24/7 . The more I unlearned everything I was taught, brainwashed etc... the more I came to know that I am only aware of being aware. I am no one, kinda like no identity, but yet I am everything! hope this makes sense .
@d1427
@d1427 7 жыл бұрын
Debra Binetti ‘I am’ ‘s the veil that clouds the 'isness' When mind’s attention goes to things Just look and see, it’s one, not three, [View it in plane and not 3D], There’s no center in this business. And what you see is all there is No world beyond, no time that flows Nothing comes and nothing goes.
@db-333
@db-333 7 жыл бұрын
Yes , the see'er 🙏🏻🕉
@susanbutler5899
@susanbutler5899 7 жыл бұрын
Debra Binetti
@d1427
@d1427 7 жыл бұрын
Susan Butler susan butler... i don't get it- what's the meaning of such a comment?
@DrNancyLivingCoCreatively
@DrNancyLivingCoCreatively 2 жыл бұрын
I love synchronicity. I just posted to some friends about the power of Unknowing. I love Christian Mystic poet Denise Levertov's small book: The Great Unknowing. Lovely to see our New Mexico jewel Richard Rohr on Science and Nonduality. Grew up ROMAN Catholic and he has helped me heal. I am actually a mystic. I am writing this at Christmas 2021 when the big lie has truly disturbed culture in general. Very timely.
@SatoriGraphics
@SatoriGraphics 7 жыл бұрын
We are all one
@12311sk8ter
@12311sk8ter 7 жыл бұрын
Satori Graphics hahaha nice, simple and straight to the point. Good job
@davemp9008
@davemp9008 7 жыл бұрын
Satori Graphics All one what!
@SlackKeyPaddy
@SlackKeyPaddy 6 жыл бұрын
We are all one , great, so lets go get lunch!
@katherinebicicchi4678
@katherinebicicchi4678 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good plan!
@katherinebicicchi4678
@katherinebicicchi4678 6 жыл бұрын
Heidi, Christ came to proclaim the GOOD NEWS, not the bad news. God loves everything that was created. We are all the expression of love. I left the Catholic Church years ago for talking that way. Couldn't imagine a loving God tossing his people (and my neighbors) into hell. Thankfully, am not hearing too much talk like that anymore and have found a wonderful Franciscan community -- All are welcome here is the their song. As are all God's children welcome home. I believe Christ demonstrated that life prevails. And that we are all one -- the creation of God.
@anakata3254
@anakata3254 3 жыл бұрын
Richard's comment on 2:35 clearly shows his Christian bias. How can you call other pre-existing religions such as Buddhism, Hinduism and Jainism as “primitive”, when the very idea of “non-duality” has a strong presence in the core theology of those religions? In fact, no other religions or “advanced” religions has theological base on its literatures establishing the “non-duality”. So, you calling other religions as primitive clearly shows your bias, in fact, there isn't any non-duality in core Christian literature btw. Modern authors like Richard are writing their “interpretation” of the Bible so that Christianity would survive. Don't try hard to “baptize” or appropriate Hindu & Buddhist's core teachings. Your arguments would fall apart when someone questions about the core non-dual concept of “aham brahmasmi” when compared it with the core teachings of Christianity.
@pattersondsmccd
@pattersondsmccd 6 жыл бұрын
You'll never be lonely again -- let us enter the enchanted world together. If you get to the door before me, I'll bet you'll hold it open for me, and I'll try to do the same for you. Thank you, Richard Rohr!
@pattersondsmccd
@pattersondsmccd 6 жыл бұрын
Oops: I should add, if you WANT to enter the enchanted world, I'll hold the door open for you. If you'd rather be deeper in the rational, scientific world, then I'll do my best to accompany you there. In other words, not trying to convince anyone of anything here. And now, I continue my conversation with a lizard and a leaf.
@thomasdimattia3556
@thomasdimattia3556 2 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@lisengel2498
@lisengel2498 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully said - I felt deep joy listening
@christopherscotellaro
@christopherscotellaro Ай бұрын
I do adore Fr. Rohr - impeccable orator. However, after listening to n’ watching over 50 KZbin talks never have I heard him wax on about the American Indian-who for centuries had sn innate triad/trinity of the universal christ’ in the form of the Great Mystery. Shame he ignores much of Joseph Campbell’s genius myth work and the native tribal belief systems particularly the Lakota. That said I enjoy his oratory and marvelous narratives. Peace ✌️ love ❤️ and A’ho.
@Mistywon
@Mistywon 5 жыл бұрын
"Now this is eternal life - that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you sent." John 17:3 You know I'm not so sure about this unknowing stuff.
@tomaswheaton15
@tomaswheaton15 4 жыл бұрын
Dale Thompson I hear you. But if you hear him close, he aligns with The Gospel.
@Ryahan
@Ryahan 4 жыл бұрын
1 John 4:1-6 (ESV): Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
@matthewdyer2926
@matthewdyer2926 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomaswheaton15 no, he actually doesn’t. Not in the least.
@matthewdyer2926
@matthewdyer2926 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ryahan Amen! It’s good to see a beacon truth in this sea of lies!
@topologyrob
@topologyrob 3 жыл бұрын
Knowing God is not the same as knowing doctrine.
@Humhab
@Humhab 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic spiritual food and thanks, Richard!
@UMS9695
@UMS9695 3 жыл бұрын
Deus comes from the word Deva (Deoa) which means a light being or a being of light. It's unfortunate that the other half, the feminine divine called Devi was not accepted into Greek thinking. Non-duality is also the fact that the masculine and the feminine exist in every entity or being in creation. At the atomic level, it's the Protons, Neutrons and Electrons that represent the Trinity of Vishnu, Shiva & Brahma respectively. The energy that pervades the Trinity is represented as Shakti or Devi.
@richardbelisle7626
@richardbelisle7626 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't that long ago my friends that speaking like this would have one burned at the stake...thank you Father Rohr...I hope you are feeling well
@xaxaruiz5705
@xaxaruiz5705 5 жыл бұрын
Fanfastic talk and unitive view. Most Christians should learn from him...
@vaska1999
@vaska1999 6 жыл бұрын
This approach tacitly -- implicitly -- flattens out all differences and denies the very necessity of differentiation. Simply put, it denies that some ideas are better than others, some ways of being better than other ways of being, some actions preferable to others. What underlies it, and what it turns inevitably leads to, is nihilism. And Christian nihilism is as insidious and dangerous as any other kind.
@NonValidZulu
@NonValidZulu 6 жыл бұрын
It doesn't deny the necessity of differentiation at all, rather is highlights that under the surface there isn't differentiation even though the way we live necessitates the concept of duality. It's nihilistic only if viewed through a nihilistic lens, the other way to view it is that by being one we all have a purpose, but ultimately these are both different sides of the same coin, the only difference is perspective, and as mentioned in the video with dualistic thinking we pick a side and view things from our own bias.
@mditt7
@mditt7 2 жыл бұрын
Utterly brilliant and beautiful in his humble simplicity, The Spirit of Saint Francis lives on and thrives in Christ. Today's militant atheists and Religious fundamentalists would be slain with Love itself on hearing this approach surely. If they took to a listening posture that is Amen Amen
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 2 жыл бұрын
I pray that Yahweh protects true Christianity revive it and make it flourish till the day of resurrection respect from a Muslim
@martynsnan
@martynsnan 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. I wish all Christians were like this. I have just been talking to a born again evangelist who has a very confined idea of what he calls Truth. Everybody outside of his small tribe is condemned for eternity. I pointed out that, even in his belief system, that decision wouldn't be his to make. In the end, any religion or philosophy is only a vehicle to help us uncover the Ultimate Reality. We only use vehicles as long as they are useful. We should not cling to them or be afraid to change to another form of transport, even none at all. The idea of the dance in this talk meant much more to me than the usual Trinity teaching. As a Buddhist, I am encouraged to ask questions. Doubt is an essential part of each person's journey. It's good to know that there are Christians who understand the benefit of seeking rather than allowing the ego to take over.
@colton7373
@colton7373 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ is the only way to eternal life
@claudelebel49
@claudelebel49 4 жыл бұрын
@@colton7373 Has it worked? Have you found eternal life?
@matthewdyer2926
@matthewdyer2926 3 жыл бұрын
Richard Rohr is not a Christian.
@vicp7124
@vicp7124 7 жыл бұрын
He's right about the evolution of modern Christianity from the era of Constantine. With that modernization came the strict rules of moral sexual behavior which we may credit on the positive side with the evolution of monogamy, family life and even sexual romance. On the negative side came strict sexual roles including subjugation of women and male role in the industrial revolution and subjugation of non accepted feelings.
@masterprophet8378
@masterprophet8378 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, Rohr is WRONG about that very thing, Vic P, because strict moral rules for sexual behavior was extant within the Early Church continuing on through the Ante-Nicene era all the way into the Nicene era and beyond. None of it was post-Constantine, as you insist. That is simply untrue. No person with even a basic knowledge of Early Christianity knows this to be a fact.
@TheWesternArmenia
@TheWesternArmenia 4 жыл бұрын
Everything was great about this video except that he kept using “gay, lesbian, transgender” as an example of dualistic thinking, To me he is trying to equate all that to heterosexuality which is not acceptable !
@thomashedberg2535
@thomashedberg2535 5 жыл бұрын
AMEN! GOD IS MYSTERY! ALL FAITHS RADIATE RAYS OF GOD'S LIGHT! THE UNITIVE STATE RADIATES. THOMAS
@MarcosBetancort
@MarcosBetancort 5 жыл бұрын
He said that Jesus exemplified non duality when he said I and the Father are one? I thought that the Father is one and the Son another in unity. Non duality should say that Jesus had at most an enlightened duality. He did not say I am the Father.
@hermenutic
@hermenutic 7 жыл бұрын
I love this explanation of the Trinity. The idea of Jesus 'only' being God in relationship to the Father and the Spirit makes the redemptive work of Christ Jesus take on a great significance to me when understood this way. (I hope I am not misinterpreting the good doctors thoughts) I am truly grateful for finding the insights of Richard Rohr into the Fellowship of the Mystery and the Gospel of the Kingdom..
@SlackKeyPaddy
@SlackKeyPaddy 6 жыл бұрын
To complicated, TRUTH = One Spirit, One Mind and One Body, that's a all there is , my friend and once Awakened you'll SEE it for your Self.
@hermenutic
@hermenutic 6 жыл бұрын
I suspect you are right, it's been a long trip I may not be out of the woods, but I can see the clearing. In an ever expanding universe awakening may be the process of eternally being at the edge of the clearing.
@danielkillman5448
@danielkillman5448 7 жыл бұрын
Good words from a great teacher. Nobody has a monopoly on the entire universal truth, whether religionist or scientist. Does anyone now exactly where and to whom this talk was given?
@donnamarieliulpcncc88
@donnamarieliulpcncc88 7 жыл бұрын
Science and Non-duality Conference.
@paulthornton9899
@paulthornton9899 5 жыл бұрын
It was given to humans on earth.
@pilsendood
@pilsendood 4 жыл бұрын
Passivity as morality. LOL His vision is wonderful in a world that is protected by people who do not share his vision.
@paparingo5163
@paparingo5163 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@slowwco
@slowwco 5 ай бұрын
Richard Rohr quote highlights from this video: “I'm convinced the very word ‘prayer’ originally meant a different operating system.” “I don't think I see any evidence that Jesus ever systematically taught what we would call ‘nondual thinking’, but he did exemplify it, and that's even better.” “How we in organized Christianity got in trouble is we largely, overwhelmingly read the words of Jesus-who was talking nondually-with a dualistic mind … Western Christianity largely became a PhD in dualistic thinking.” “Once you need to prove that you're right and someone else is wrong, that you're the in-group and they're the out-group, what you have is the dominance of ego. And, once the ego is center stage, there is no possibility of contemplation … It’s the death of the contemplative mind.” “A civilization cannot survive if it is actively involved in hatred toward its own spirituality.” “‘Faith’ meant comfortably not knowing, and we turned that around 180 degrees into being certain about everything.” “Once you're inside the enchanted universe where everything is granted subjectivity, you’re never lonely again.”
@andrewcarfrae
@andrewcarfrae 2 жыл бұрын
I love Richard Rohr.. if there were more like him even I’d become a Christian
@FirstPersonHood
@FirstPersonHood 4 жыл бұрын
How can that which is ALL IMAGES be an IMAGE; ALL TASTES be a TASTE; ALL SOUNDS be a SOUND; ALL SENSATIONS be a SENSATION....?
@6williamson
@6williamson 3 жыл бұрын
The new prosperity gospel
@clifb.3521
@clifb.3521 3 жыл бұрын
This brought me to 😭
@charlieglendinning2372
@charlieglendinning2372 4 күн бұрын
Isn’t it dualistic to say, “No one comes to the Father but by me.”? My workaround-when I take Biblical statement as my starting point… my, “If-this-is-true-then-what?” road map-is to consider that there are MANY ways to Jesus, who is the ONE way to God. In other words, we have to embrace the epiphany that God came to earth in the flesh, as the man Jesus… to be the magnetic sinless creator that all creation-yearning to be sinless-is drawn to.
@megfrattarola7030
@megfrattarola7030 5 жыл бұрын
The trinity. 3 the mystery. Moves through everything. Grand mutually to everything, never lonely.
@jtrevm
@jtrevm 4 жыл бұрын
In Him we live and move and have our being....and ...we are His offspring..... We are the children of this 'Him'..we have more than place - we have relationship.
@TomLangley13
@TomLangley13 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful!! Thank you for sharing your understanding, your Wisdom, your "Unknowing", or "Not - Knowing", of the true Teachings of Jesus - one of the greatest "Pointers" at/to our Inherent, Timeless, Ineffable, "Oneness without a Second", True, or Original Nature, in recorded history. Peace Be with You...Namaste' 🙏
@lourdemodeste9815
@lourdemodeste9815 7 жыл бұрын
Reverend Eslam ßw
@artapanah2104
@artapanah2104 7 жыл бұрын
+Reverend Eslam You need to wake up from your deluded religious belief. Jesus is not God.
@TomLangley13
@TomLangley13 7 жыл бұрын
Reverend Eslam Jesus was a man like any other man/woman but he Realized his True Nature during his lifetime, ie, "Self-Realization", as many others have throughout the history of Mankind. His words were "Pointers" to who/what we Really Are, right Here, right NOW. You quote Shunyamurti who quotes Ramana Maharshi who "Pounted" to the same "One without a Second" that Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj did. Just like Jesus, Maharaj said to Be the "I AM" which is prior to thoughts, memories, associations, perceptions, and conceptions. This "Stateless-State" is "where" your "self" dissolves into SELF - Pure Awareness ITSELF. In Zen, it is called the "Gateless Gate". Religions are for the masses until those few with "Ears to Hear" look Within, Realize who/what they Really Are, and Awaken in "Self-Realization". There is no place to go because we Are Already "THAT Which Can Not Be Described". The individual self is an Illusion. "We never left the mythological Garden of Eden - a metaphor for our Illusory separation from God, SELF, True Nature, Source, et al. This "separation" occurred approximately 200 - 500 thousand years ago when early Man's brain evolved through the formation of the Pre-frontal Cortex which gave us a very advanced survival "tool" allowing us to plan for tomorrow (future) by comparing our observations in the Present with our past memories - birth of the Ego, an Illusory mental construct which allowed us to "create" a separate "reality" with thoughts about Reality As IT Is. Separation was and IS an illusion. There is only NOW - the Ever-Moving, Ever-Present FLOW of Awareness ITSELF and we ARE IT! Peace Be with You... Namaste' 💖
@TomLangley13
@TomLangley13 7 жыл бұрын
Reverend Eslam Thank you! 💖
@EVa-fj5et
@EVa-fj5et 4 жыл бұрын
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry. 2 Timothy 4:3‭-‬5
@zatoichiable
@zatoichiable 4 жыл бұрын
if we all adjust our doctrines to accomodate our universality and humanity we will think we all have one religion different only in our rituals . . .
@peacelovejoy8786
@peacelovejoy8786 2 жыл бұрын
Love has no religion! ❤
@zatoichiable
@zatoichiable 2 жыл бұрын
@@peacelovejoy8786 love is the only religion...
@TheGuiltsOfUs
@TheGuiltsOfUs 3 жыл бұрын
WE MUST ALL REALIZE THE KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS WITHIN
@gudinna101
@gudinna101 7 жыл бұрын
A beautiful mind. More of this please.
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 2 жыл бұрын
I pray that Yahweh protects true Christianity revives it and makes it flourish till the day of resurrection respect from a Muslim
@tritt78
@tritt78 7 жыл бұрын
Brother recommended Richard Rohr but I've never heard him before. Would someone mind clarifying what he means by dualist/non-dualist? Talk is kinda hard to understand without knowing that... lol
@marke.anderson1072
@marke.anderson1072 7 жыл бұрын
My best understanding is Dualism is framing things in terms of right and wrong, good and bad. Non-dualism is the ability to accept that things we want to categorize as wrong, profane, unacceptable, etc., may not be.
@jessicarises8980
@jessicarises8980 6 жыл бұрын
Mark Anderson Hey Mark, that's a good definition of it. In Tantric Buddhism, which has non-duality as a basis, they say basically that there really is no good/bad, right or wrong ultimately.
@nickromero7140
@nickromero7140 5 жыл бұрын
Non dualistic thinking can open some dark places. Something that if Richard talked about could result in turning people away from him. Like, what if he brought up the world view of a pedophile? To think about that in a non dualistic way is to be able to consider that it may not be wrong. A lot of people find that very disturbing. And stealing? And murder? How do we know if these things are wrong if we adopt non dualistic thinking?
@janeperkins6534
@janeperkins6534 5 жыл бұрын
@@nickromero7140 and Travis Ritt - Mark's explanation goes some way there, but RR also makes it clear in his other writing and speeches that he is not looking at anything in an either/or perspective, but usually in a both-and perspective, so to come to your point Nicholas, the pedophile situation is both a problem and an opportunity - his actions are a serious problem to his victims as well as to himself in the karma kind of way in which we reap what we sow, and the fact that he has lost his 'true self' (his self that finds its identity in God), but his problem can also become an opportunity for his redemption when he confronts his actions and their consequences for his victims as well as himself ( I use 'he' advisedly, realising it could be 'she'), and it becomes the platform for greater self-awareness, and greater awareness of the 'other' who is not really 'other', but another part of himself against whom he has violated. Similar could be said of the stealing and murder topics, and any other violations against 'self' and others that we commit.
@alexacramer608
@alexacramer608 4 жыл бұрын
I would say that the only reason an "opportunity" exists is because of the love and grace of God, but that the "opportunity" is not inherent in an act of pedophilia. The act in and of itself is inherently evil, which is a dualistic statement that I believe is correct. A miracle occurs when Christ redeems that situation. I disagree that dualistic thinking is a lower level of thinking...
@limolnar
@limolnar 2 ай бұрын
True Christianity focuses on the Truth that "God became man so that man could become God." Humility, nonjudgement, moderation, service, fraternity, and nonconfrontation are the original teachings of the Christ. All else is corruption.
@ChocolateJewels
@ChocolateJewels 4 жыл бұрын
He is brilliant. Funny and smart. Brilliant. Breath of fresh air long overdue.
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 2 жыл бұрын
I pray that Yahweh protects true Christianity revives and makes it flourish till the day of resurrection respect from a Muslim
@kevint2878
@kevint2878 6 жыл бұрын
I've always thought that if there is a God, that God takes sheer delight when I have to admit that, "I don't know if there is a God". I think I've embraced not knowing.
@brianringham9745
@brianringham9745 9 ай бұрын
He mocks Christian’s pretty good, guess we are all just idiots, he has a handle on the pulse of the universe….put it down critics …sorry that we are simpletons who just believe Jesus is the Son, the truth, the way and the life….to simple I guess…
@almilligan7317
@almilligan7317 5 жыл бұрын
Rohr’s doublespeak and web of tangled thought is very hard to follow unless you have taken the lure. Then he drags you wherever he, with his great knowing mystic mind wants to take you. You are the fish, he is the fisher. In order to do this the first thing he has to do is disavow identity, or the first premise of logic and reasoning A is A. He calls it dualistic thinking but it is really monistic for it must start with a thing is what it is. This of course leads to A not being Not A. That is not dualism. Rohr’s is dualistic thinking because the first thing it does is sets off the spiritual from the material, or the mind/body problem. In this dualism Rohr goes with the Beginning-less Mind and in doing so will eventual deny substitutionary atonement and that Jesus and the Christ are not the same thing, Jesus being the historical man and Christ the incarnation of God in all matter. How does he know all these things? It’s mystical and you can’t understand it unless you enter the mystical mind. Let go! Caught!
@falcons1988
@falcons1988 6 жыл бұрын
Rediscovery of the real God? Is this where non-duality and eschatology meet?
@beategabriele9810
@beategabriele9810 4 жыл бұрын
Great ! Thank you.
@adamkorbiak8171
@adamkorbiak8171 2 ай бұрын
he definitely taught it. he taught it to people who have less of an understanding than we do regarding liberation and in the Bible, we're reading reading it (far from first hand) through people who didn't have a non dual experience of life. From here, it most certainly seems to be a direct non-dual teaching.
@billkotas9049
@billkotas9049 11 ай бұрын
OK, well perhaps just let it all go and simply be the being that is yourself that is everything... realize all things in yourself and yourself in all things...
@bernardkennedy5436
@bernardkennedy5436 7 жыл бұрын
wonderful- mystics-love-unity. A trinity.
@azrielsmith3167
@azrielsmith3167 4 ай бұрын
The reformation was not the death of contemplative thinking or the beginning of "food fighting". That phenomena has pervaded Christianity for most of its history up until the Roman Catholic church persecuted any dissent from its own doctrine into near extinction and it was from that position that the reformation rekindled open debate.
@AKSnowbat907
@AKSnowbat907 7 ай бұрын
"Be of one mind" "Do not be conformed to the patterns of this world but be transformed by a renewal of your mind".
@aaronarmijo3626
@aaronarmijo3626 2 ай бұрын
Rohr is using flat out Hare Krishna methodolgy in regard to consciousness. He may once have been a hare krishna or still is.
@facetoface-withGod
@facetoface-withGod Жыл бұрын
Well, I have seen God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit - I saw each one of them during my life after death experience. I stood face to face with God the Father outside of heaven's gate, and Jesus was standing beside Him. Then, when the angels brought me back to my body on earth, I saw the Holy Spirit standing next to my body. They are 3 separate beings, but all in one accord, in perfect agreement with each other. But each is an individual, who look different from each other, who appeared to each have their own unique personality. And God actually IS a beautiful, handsome, powerfully built white man, who looks to be about in His 60's (with no wrinkles). He insisted that I look at Him face to face. I don't know why Richard Rohr laughs at this description.
@barbarachambers9515
@barbarachambers9515 4 жыл бұрын
So beautiful.
@innister
@innister 6 жыл бұрын
Hi. There's So much in this talk by Richard Rohr that I truly appreciate. I find myself accepting his teaching on the necessity of 'nonduality'. But then I stop and think of the Bible. It is absolutely FULL of duality teaching. God and the Devil. Light and Darkness. Truth and Error. Righteousness and Wrongdoing. The wheat and the tares. Saints and sinners. The Gospels, and Jesus' teachings in particular, are absolutely Full of it. So why is this man speaking so strongly against it? Also, favouring creation spirituality over 'words'. The Bible wouldn't exist without words. Jesus IS the Word for crying out loud. Leaves me a little bit unsure of his teaching here........(please answer respectfully - thank you).
@OneSimpleSimon
@OneSimpleSimon 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Innister. The Bible is a book. Actually, it is a collection of various kinds of writings and oral traditions passed down of over hundreds of years. All of these writings were created by men. The oral traditions, like oral traditions anywhere, are allegorical at best and have undoubtably been slightly reshaped with every passing generation and with every translation - oral and written - since they were started. The passages that were actually written down were recorded long after the events. They, too, have been translated many times, and they were selected, during the formation of the Roman Catholic Church as the state religion of Rome, by those who were brought together for political reasons. Many such texts were rejected by these councils. You're right. The Bible wouldn't exist without words. But words are not things. The word "table" is not a thing. It indicates a thing. It refers to a thing. And that reference takes place in our minds. Same with any words. They have no truth or reality outside of our minds - and they are thus very open to interpretation. Take the word "love" for example. How many meanings can you think of for it? How many ways can you imagine it being misinterpreted? Think of the following sentence: "I love my parents, Mother Theresa, and the Pope". Or, without the Oxford comma, "I love my parents: Mother Theresa and the Pope". Words are convenient tools. Like maps, they can help us navigate our way around life. but they are not truth, They can only ever, at best, point to truth. Truth is beyond words. So what I would respectfully suggest, is that you try exploring some of what people such as Rohr and Eckhart Tolle (who are only indicating the same things that mystics or ALL spiritual traditions have been pointing to) for yourself. Try simply being still. Let the words go. Listen to the silence between your thoughts. Simply try/allow yourself to be truly "aware" in moments. See for yourself where this leads you. This is not a religion. No-one stands to profit from it. It's not a set of beliefs to hold onto. It's nothing more or less than listening to one's soul. "The Kingdom of God is within you", is at the heart of all spiritual traditions (along with the "golden rule", which makes perfect sense when we awaken to our innate oneness with others). I am not suggesting you "reject" the Bible or its role in your life. Not at all. But if you take the time to enter the stillness of simply being, you might find different ways of understanding all those words in it. :-) Namaste. I wish you well. Simon
@prakharprabhat585
@prakharprabhat585 4 жыл бұрын
Oneness doesn't mean things are same.
@priestbogomil
@priestbogomil 7 ай бұрын
The “light” is akin to maggot feces for a TRUE spiritual being.
@kirstenschreiber4189
@kirstenschreiber4189 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you 🙏🏻 Richard ❤️
@surpriseimblack
@surpriseimblack 7 жыл бұрын
Most progressive priest
@raphaellobo8411
@raphaellobo8411 7 жыл бұрын
Oliver Ezenwa is
@philtate1029
@philtate1029 6 жыл бұрын
Why are you looking for or impressed by a 'progressive' Priest - what we need is a return to New Testament Christianity
@GregSchwaderer
@GregSchwaderer 6 жыл бұрын
I just came across this. These are the words of the anti-christ.
@philtate1029
@philtate1029 6 жыл бұрын
Define progression! Is progression progress? From what to what? Does your definition tally with Christ's?
@Marco85111
@Marco85111 5 жыл бұрын
you are hateful
@soilofk
@soilofk 4 жыл бұрын
Born into the catholic faith...catholic school and all! but since I was 12, I began to question many things about the religion that did not seem truthful and honest. I haven't practice it since I was 18...Father Rohr just confirms everything I thought since I was 12!!! he is wonderful and intelligent yet very respectful. Today I believe that if I called myself Christian, I need (at least try) to think and behave like Jesus did: all love, all inclusive, all truth with my sisters and brothers. Period.
@matthewdyer2926
@matthewdyer2926 3 жыл бұрын
“If you do not repent you will all likewise perish”-Jesus
@soilofk
@soilofk 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewdyer2926 🤮
@matthewdyer2926
@matthewdyer2926 3 жыл бұрын
@@soilofk so you have no regard for the true Christ Jesus and his words, but the false jesus you’ve invented in your own image- that jesus is worth following?
@soilofk
@soilofk 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewdyer2926 no, I don’t have regard for people like you who use Jesus’ name for their own religion propaganda ignoring all his teachings like ...loving your neighbour, love your enemies, forgive...you know the most important things!
@matthewdyer2926
@matthewdyer2926 3 жыл бұрын
@@soilofk “If you do not repent you will all likewise perish.” Seems pretty important to me. On the contrary, it seems like you are the one who cherry-picks the words of Christ that suit your fancy and align with your personal religious agenda. Do you not see that this is what you’re doing?
@andreanittel2240
@andreanittel2240 4 жыл бұрын
It is very hard to understand the Trinity..........
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 2 жыл бұрын
That's because it's illogical and most it's not biblical
@Marigrace7777
@Marigrace7777 7 жыл бұрын
fantastic talk! Love the "unknowing with Christianity!
@threseanobil30
@threseanobil30 3 жыл бұрын
Fr.Richard Rohr OFM Brought me to the DivineDance.Dec. 24-25-26- 2020..... I now can connect dots to fit like pieces to a puzzle from birth to 72 good beautiful and true years of life...Thank you Richard.....I love everything about you. As well as my most fabulous SPIRITUAL DIRECTOR in New Jersey.. I just came out of 8 years of transformation. I studied with the franciscians. At Saint Francis of Assisi on Long Beach Island N.J Next..went to saint Mary's diocesan church after 2 full years of R.C.I.A. My active spiritual director for 2 years said because I personally read or listen to so many of your gifts and treasures of C.A.C. It tells her a lot about me.. she also mentioned there are woman monks. Your end of year 2020 contemplative prayer teachings have brought me freedom to be the whole person he created me to be...A Ministry of Saint Joseph and or Kingdom Soldiers are my 2 choices for the 21 st.century.. You will always stay in my heart till eternity..as I believe you are a saint on Earth..creating in me the fullness of transformed in the Trinity to strive for sainthood.. You totally set me up for 2021... I love you Richard Rohr with all my heart mind soul and strength..... I pray for you health daily. . AMEN. I also have some Jesuit blood in me which I use ALL FOR THE GREATOR GLORY OF GOD Since 2012
@jamesmd
@jamesmd Ай бұрын
Beautiful wisdom on Christianity 😇
@TJ-wh6ix
@TJ-wh6ix 3 жыл бұрын
Just Brilliant. Thank you.
@newbeginning9850
@newbeginning9850 6 жыл бұрын
What a great Franciscan priest.
@masterprophet8378
@masterprophet8378 6 жыл бұрын
St. Francis would be appalled at Rohr's stance on homosexulaity, Ana. Facts!
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