Part 3: The Light Stuff (human-powered flight)

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sciencetoymaker

sciencetoymaker

12 жыл бұрын

It's sad that this excellent documentary about recreating the mythical flight of Daedalus with modern technology is no longer available. So I am putting it up.
If you like this video, you will also enjoy the story of the MacCready family's original development of human-powered flight. The video and audio on the KZbin version are dreadful, but if you like it you can buy a beautifully remastered DVD.
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@VVondervvall
@VVondervvall 11 жыл бұрын
Maybe a few kg lighter or a little bit stronger, but most of the materials they used have only progressed a little bit today. Nobody has even got close since then, it was truly an exceptional effort.
@global_nomad.
@global_nomad. 3 жыл бұрын
here in 2020, as an amateur cyclist there is already so much more we know about human physiology - and nutrition, i'm sure a lot came from this project. the computation and materials sciences we have now can be seen in the early stages of these episodes. Thanks for making this doc available..
@sciencetoymaker
@sciencetoymaker 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, so true
@ericfredrickson129
@ericfredrickson129 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this! I remember this was pretty big news back in the US when it happened. We only had 3 TV channels in 1988, and no internet. So everyone was on the same info stream. Amazing achievement using 1988 technology. Even in 2023, the Daedalus still holds the record for human-powered flight, in both time and distance.
@sciencetoymaker
@sciencetoymaker Жыл бұрын
Thanks Eric. You might also like this earlier effort by the MacCready clan kzbin.info/www/bejne/omXanXZnhsqrbqM
@ericfredrickson129
@ericfredrickson129 Жыл бұрын
@@sciencetoymaker Wow fantastic! Thank you!
@SpectreMk2
@SpectreMk2 6 жыл бұрын
One of the best aircraft documentary I have seen so far, along the ones on the B777 and on the JSF from NOVA as well. It's nice to see that some of the people involved in this project are now big shot in the field of aeronautics, like Drela or Langford.
@jackfrost2146
@jackfrost2146 9 жыл бұрын
"Looking refreshed after his swim." That was a clever line.
@ashutoshbhakuni303
@ashutoshbhakuni303 6 жыл бұрын
This film was so beautiful and serene! Thank you Slater for preserving it. Great effort and spirit of the Daedalus team.
@johncgibson4720
@johncgibson4720 8 жыл бұрын
This docu just never gets old. Every time I watch it I think about different things.
@mazdalorean
@mazdalorean 11 жыл бұрын
This video had my attention through every step of the way. The amount of energy from all involved was amazing. To think of how many people all worked together for so many hours to make it all possible , it's just awesome . We need more events like this to bring the world together for a positive common goal. It does suck that he didn't make it though. They say close doesn't count except in hand grenades and horshoes, but I think we can make an exception here.
@KurdstanPlanetarium
@KurdstanPlanetarium Жыл бұрын
Daedalus becomes Icarus, what a flight, The Myth came alive in land that created it . Great Flight and well done Kanellos !
@dalefletcher2188
@dalefletcher2188 10 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine coming that far only to crash into the water yards from the beach?
@Kevin15047
@Kevin15047 10 жыл бұрын
Poseidon couldn't resist, he wanted that plane. :)
@Bearthedancingman
@Bearthedancingman 6 жыл бұрын
If I was Poseidon I would too.
@voiceoftreason1760
@voiceoftreason1760 9 жыл бұрын
what a mind blowing experience, very cool documentary.
@goropeza101
@goropeza101 8 жыл бұрын
+Enhanced Pyrotechnics Very COOL indeed!!
@pcramil
@pcramil 11 жыл бұрын
All good points. Hotter air does make it thinner and does give less resistance, but for propeller planes, that results in the propeller having less air each time it "bites." Pilots are cautioned on hot and heavy takeoffs because it takes much longer to reach takeoff airspeed. This was apparently done long ago, but it's still very inspiring!
@faeriemama100
@faeriemama100 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading. I read the book The Fullness of Wings about this project after my daughter met John Langford through Team America Rocketry Challenge. I blazed through the book and was hooked - even not being an engineer type. What an amazing accomplishment. I have stood below the craft in the DC airport and just been awed by the creativity, knowledge, and skill of the team that created it.
@HydoSkills
@HydoSkills 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload man!!
@dddave999
@dddave999 12 жыл бұрын
Great documentary can’t believe I have never seen this on UK tv. Thanks for posting.
@daunity
@daunity 11 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing. Amazing how the smaller things in life (most people today would see this an aimless venture) are the most incredible. And to imagine what we could do now, I have to search around to see what else has been done.
@magna59
@magna59 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting this up !
@williamogilvie6909
@williamogilvie6909 9 ай бұрын
What a great accomplishment! A first rate team, perseverance, and choosing the right time to make the flight. The Greek people got what they wanted.
@freesk8
@freesk8 9 жыл бұрын
Glad he was wise enough not to fly too close to the sun... Melts the mylar covering....
@jagbot50
@jagbot50 6 жыл бұрын
Duh, the higher you go the colder it gets...
@clio66762
@clio66762 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this!
@JaleelJohanson62
@JaleelJohanson62 10 жыл бұрын
Very cool! One hell of an accomplishment!
@surfermili
@surfermili 10 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, unbelievable !!
@MrUnderEstimated
@MrUnderEstimated 10 жыл бұрын
what a plot twist ending xD!
@ScienceguyOrg
@ScienceguyOrg 12 жыл бұрын
I had read this story before, but it was much better being able to watch this. Thanks so much for uploading the video. Bill Kuhl Inspires me to finish my Allegro Lite sailplane.
@klafong1
@klafong1 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching this on _NOVA_ in the late 1980s. It was pretty mesmerizing.
@ScienceTubeToday
@ScienceTubeToday 11 жыл бұрын
My comment is not intended to replace anything that the Daedalus Team would say about flying in the summer. I have flown hang gliders since the 1970's, so my experience is that in the summer the air is more turbulent and less laminar as a rule. The probability of structural failure in turbulent winds might have been a factor.
@nothingbutextreme1
@nothingbutextreme1 10 жыл бұрын
This was done 26 years ago, imagine if today's technology was applied!
@svesom
@svesom 4 жыл бұрын
I try to Imagine.. It is a dream for me to fly on my own Muscle Power. I'm been Hangglider Pilot and Bicycle experienced. And now I'm constructing Things on my CAD. I should try such Stuff..
@muhammad_ihsan_adfinda
@muhammad_ihsan_adfinda 4 жыл бұрын
Japan does it every year in Biwako Birdman Rally. The latest champion has achieved 60 km, closest distance ever been flown to this record.
@Dake-gw6it
@Dake-gw6it 4 жыл бұрын
Take that people who cant imagine, now imagine their faces, one of them punched me, he was so mad
@TimpBizkit
@TimpBizkit 4 жыл бұрын
And yet it was the Gossamer Albatross that inspired them all.
@xavier9147
@xavier9147 4 жыл бұрын
Japan does that every year without any help of NASA nor Navy
@Jaysohn008
@Jaysohn008 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. I saw this when I was young and made a zillion planes out of styrofoam plates and saran wrap. Made my parents crazy.
@skrswift
@skrswift 11 жыл бұрын
enjoyable thanks for putting this up .....
@tA_aT287
@tA_aT287 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding...
@Giovanniram22
@Giovanniram22 11 жыл бұрын
Very good documentary. Thank you. Greetings from Greece!
@katiemilker
@katiemilker 12 жыл бұрын
Man if I was the piolt I would have been so pissed off at not getting to land, considering how near he was, but this flight was still amazing. Why aren't we doing it again, let get a move on and build another Daedalus.
@PitolPitolPitol
@PitolPitolPitol 11 жыл бұрын
¡Gracias por el video men!
@vistigioful
@vistigioful 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff. I love anything human powered and human powered flight is no exception.
@ChristianAcademyCEP
@ChristianAcademyCEP 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this up...I'll have to show the kiddos.
@voicemint
@voicemint 12 жыл бұрын
They've proven that the craft ends up too fragile. You need really ideal conditions and it was extraordinary that they got as good the weather that they did... but it couldn't last. At the end, the wind picked up and challenged the air frame, based on the direction Daedelus had to go and---SNAP. However, the test was technically a success. I think the next test should be a combination of human and solar power. Imagine the possibilities with the pilot being able to take short breaks.
@Lawiah0
@Lawiah0 12 жыл бұрын
Name plane "Daedalus" Plan flight in Crete, Greece Location provides 3 good days of weather yearly Train 5 pilots on rotation schedule (2 days on, 6 days off) Pilots on 40 day cycle Of the 5 pilots one is Greek The Greek pilot is Countries Top Cyclist Flight starts with tail wind, ending in crash with 90 deg cross (gusting) ... I just love a good story. Thx
@Tletna
@Tletna 12 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that they made it and that the pilot was safe. I consider him getting to shore safely a successful flight since the legend is about escape and not about transporting a plane. Way to go Daedalus Project team!
@heliloco
@heliloco 12 жыл бұрын
Great job ..!!
@hfb1995
@hfb1995 12 жыл бұрын
Amazing nice stuff!!
@beverley8987
@beverley8987 7 жыл бұрын
GREAT WORK AND FLYING ALWAYS LAND INTO THE WIND FOR MAX CONTROL GOOD JOB TEAM.
@NameNotAlreadyTaken2
@NameNotAlreadyTaken2 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you NOVA
@endwood
@endwood 8 жыл бұрын
Great doco:-)
@BayLeafff
@BayLeafff 10 жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@A1n3dr5e1234567890
@A1n3dr5e1234567890 10 жыл бұрын
What a great flight, great team and great achievement !!! 22:35 It looks like the gust and the rudder control input to the right at the same time created a torsion at the tail structure and it broke the tail structure. The area of rudder above the " fuselage tube " looks bigger than the area below. It generates rudder torsion during rudder inputs or side gust wind during flight.
@kd5txo
@kd5txo 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps they could have some extra strength and reduced weight by lightly pressurizing the structural tubes with 14.7 PSI of hydrogen or Helium.... or even 2 Atmospheres of those gasses (29.4 PSI)
@sanpol4399
@sanpol4399 4 жыл бұрын
@@kd5txo Yes, that is an interesting idea. Also to avoid torsion of the tail tube when rudder is applied , the area of rudder should be the same above and below the tail tube.
@davidmuchina6180
@davidmuchina6180 6 жыл бұрын
Great job. Hope to one day fly one
@mikedevaney9901
@mikedevaney9901 Жыл бұрын
Thank you huge from a bike rider. Mike
@sciencetoymaker
@sciencetoymaker 11 жыл бұрын
True, hot air is indeed less dense, therefore less lift at a given speed. However, by that logic, there would also be less air resistance. Jets actually fly more efficiently in the upper atmosphere where the air is very thin because there is less friction. Obviously, powerful, fast jet flight is very different from human-powered flight, and I don't know how that applies to slow flight.
@kimchi_taco
@kimchi_taco 9 жыл бұрын
inspiring documentary
@sciencetoymaker
@sciencetoymaker 12 жыл бұрын
@rick57hart To save weight, the crashed plane did not have ailerons to control bank and maintain level wings. Instead, it had dihedral (Diedergruppe) upsweep (Kurve nach oben), but there was not enough.So they fixed the plane, allowed more dihedral and it worked well.
@danz177
@danz177 9 жыл бұрын
Amazing human beings!!!
@fasreddygameplays
@fasreddygameplays 12 жыл бұрын
AMAZING JUST AMAZING
@RussianEngineer
@RussianEngineer 11 жыл бұрын
Я в восторге! Молодцы!
@kylebowles9820
@kylebowles9820 10 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! They were soooo close; if he hadn't hesitated to land, they would have made it.
@sciencetoymaker
@sciencetoymaker 12 жыл бұрын
@rick57hart I have seen some videos from groups experimenting with human-powered flight, but nothing even remotely as ambitious as the Daedalus Project. The effort has withstood the passage of time. It's good to see other people around the world are still as interested in it as I am. Slater
@mvcaribbeanblue
@mvcaribbeanblue 11 жыл бұрын
WHOOOOHOOOO!!! DAMN! He almost made it!!! GREAT VIDEO! American Aerolights Eagle Weightshift Pilot :D
@TheRooster602
@TheRooster602 11 жыл бұрын
16:03 - matching 70's moustaches for the win !
@laszlokatona573
@laszlokatona573 3 жыл бұрын
Is the next thing will be pedals on passenger aeroplanes for each passenger ?
@elfcounsul
@elfcounsul 12 жыл бұрын
I remember when Greg Zack lived in Lexington, Ky. He was a good guy. I hope he is doing well.
@rollbin
@rollbin 12 жыл бұрын
umm..amazing what year it is?
@howardyin
@howardyin 12 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot!
@Snipe4261
@Snipe4261 11 жыл бұрын
The technology and engineering that went into its development was on the cutting edge at the time and required the attention of people who were top experts in their respective fields. No one had ever done what they intended to do before so they had to develop the aircraft from the ground up. Besides, aviation isn't cheap no matter what you're doing. For comparison, a Cessna 172, the single most manufactured model of airplane ever and one of the simplest, costs ~$250,000 new.
@rick57hart
@rick57hart 12 жыл бұрын
@sciencetoymaker thank you very much for your soon response. dihedral was the word that i didnt got. do you know, if someone tried a new distance record ? 115 km is realy a giant distance and pedaling for 6 hours must be close to torture, but on the other hand, 24 years has gone by, maybe someone tried it. i didnt heard about it. Thanks a lot Richard.
@homoludens52
@homoludens52 12 жыл бұрын
Reliving a Greek myth takes an effort of mythic proportions, as NOVA reveals in its behind-the-scenes report of a human powered-flight across the Aegean Sea, a journey that symbolically recreated the mythical flight of Daedalus. NOVA follows the epic journey of the human-powered plane Daedalus 88 from the early prototypes to its dramatic landing in the surf after a 74-mile flight from the island of Crete to Santorini.
@malibu188
@malibu188 5 жыл бұрын
Rudder and evevator only on a 112ft wing. Bold move.
@mkzhero
@mkzhero 9 жыл бұрын
I wonder if with new materials this could be made even better? Also what about a plane that would use not only the legs but the hands as well? It would allow for a higher resistance that would still be easier to handle with both the hands and legs, and as a result a higher propeller speed... As for the controls, there could be some levers on the hand pedal set, and/or a helmet with strings as well as torso controlled movements.. Maybe modern technologies would even allow for increased sturdiness of the construction without weight gain, as well as less weight for the radio in the cockpit?
@goropeza101
@goropeza101 8 жыл бұрын
+mkzhero I agree, technology enables records to be broken!
@ivanabcdefg9375
@ivanabcdefg9375 6 жыл бұрын
Because the limiting factor is not his muscular endurance but cardiovascular endurance. Adding hands wouldn't help.
@zestydude87
@zestydude87 11 жыл бұрын
oh man that just made my heart sink when that wing snapped... Has there been many attempts since then?
@azimuth361
@azimuth361 9 жыл бұрын
Sheiße!!! Fifty meters from shore!!! The only Nova documentary more frustrating is Last Flight of the Kee Bird.
@dariusbagdonavicius
@dariusbagdonavicius 11 жыл бұрын
Air density also applies for propeller - the thicker the air, the more efficient propeller. Also, with the higher air density you get more benefits for lift than penalty for drag.
@rick57hart
@rick57hart 12 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately my english is not good enough to get all the words of the narrater. From 2:50 he is talhing aböut the ailerons, dihydro? and upsweep? Can you send me the words from this part? or all the words? thanks a lot. Richard
@MaxMartini22
@MaxMartini22 10 жыл бұрын
hahaha xD very nice footage!
@NevaranUniverse
@NevaranUniverse 12 жыл бұрын
woudnt it be better if it had a propeller under the plane also?
@richarddx22
@richarddx22 Жыл бұрын
How interesting
@rick57hart
@rick57hart 12 жыл бұрын
By the way: The mythical Daedalus made it to refuge from crete by using selfmade wings, and made it to santorini. Didn`t Kanellos made the same? From my point of view this was a successful flight, and also a successful record-trial.
@leviterande
@leviterande 11 жыл бұрын
when its hot, there is less air molecules per unit volume hence less propulsion force
@EVZebra
@EVZebra 9 жыл бұрын
mmm as a glider pilot I know that full left rudder results in a very slow correction, maybe in a powered aircraft with short wings it can work faster but in a long winged glider its left stick not left rudder or you going to wait a long time for the correction.
@giladshahar
@giladshahar 9 жыл бұрын
I clap my hands to the achievement ....!!!!!!!
@goropeza101
@goropeza101 8 жыл бұрын
+Gilad Shahar Very good achievement !!! That was nearly 30 yrs ago,imagine what can be achieved today!
@lukassnakeman
@lukassnakeman 11 жыл бұрын
i want a Daedalus
@sciencetoymaker
@sciencetoymaker 11 жыл бұрын
When they got the right kind of carbon fiber, the airplane weight was about 31 kg.
@smitty2868
@smitty2868 8 жыл бұрын
*_Wowsers_*
@xxuncexx
@xxuncexx 11 жыл бұрын
air is thinner during hot weather. the molecules are more spread out. just like in water. therefore less lift and yes it is a little more uncomfortable to pedal i guess in hot weather.
@rlwieneke
@rlwieneke 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, 00:15:46 Steve had a recumbent bicycle back in the 80's
@longhwin1
@longhwin1 11 жыл бұрын
Human species is awesome!
@sciencetoymaker
@sciencetoymaker 12 жыл бұрын
@rollbin It was around 1988
@rick57hart
@rick57hart 12 жыл бұрын
@clemofish Vielen Dank. Dihedral war das Wort, dass ich nicht erkannt hatte. Mir hat auch ein slater von scienctoymaker auf Englisch geantwortet. Kannst Du dessen Antwort eigentlich auch sehen?
@sciencetoymaker
@sciencetoymaker 12 жыл бұрын
@rick57hart Yes, I agree. The drama at the end made the story even richer. Slater
@sciencetoymaker
@sciencetoymaker 12 жыл бұрын
Although not expressly stated, it might have been that athletes don't last as long in hot weather. Also, the hot weather might be associated with more wind.
@ScootOverMan
@ScootOverMan 9 жыл бұрын
When can we buy tickets to fly as passengers? ha Just use 4-6 athletes pedaling their asses off for passenger flights. Awesome video!
@CorollaNut68
@CorollaNut68 11 жыл бұрын
There is more turbulence in hot weather plus the pilots are sealed in a plastic bubble before they leave, that little hole they crawl out of is closed in flight. Ever sit in a car on a hot day with the windows up? Even a Cessna gets pretty hot inside with the vents open when it's 100 degrees outside and bangs around like it's on bad pavement.
@ObiTrev
@ObiTrev 11 жыл бұрын
I miss the times when the sky was the limit of human capability and innovation. Something that Walt Disney dreamed ever day of his life about and what Tomorrowland once exemplified.
@shantimirpeace
@shantimirpeace 11 жыл бұрын
beutiful!
@brianmckerrow817
@brianmckerrow817 5 ай бұрын
Full right rudder. The aircraft was slicing through the wide sidewards.
@carolstevens1429
@carolstevens1429 9 жыл бұрын
What dat mean he don pumptet up ah drino leen?
@DandSCreations
@DandSCreations 8 жыл бұрын
+Carol Stevens oh my lord please be a troll
@Ricky32908
@Ricky32908 12 жыл бұрын
whats in the drink?/
@clemofish
@clemofish 12 жыл бұрын
@rick57hart dihedral bedeutet : der winkel zwischen zwei flügeld, dort wo sie sich treffen
@sinystas
@sinystas 11 жыл бұрын
Он полетел!!!!!! :))))
@Tletna
@Tletna 12 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know why they couldn't fly when it got hotter during the summer? Wind? Air pressure? Why did the narrator state that?
@mutterschied
@mutterschied 6 жыл бұрын
At 21:00 I found myself jumping on my chair and yelling some Hurraaah...! like if my fatherland achievement.
@adiorthotos
@adiorthotos 4 жыл бұрын
Kanellos, magas!
@ronfreeman9385
@ronfreeman9385 2 жыл бұрын
Add spoilerons for roll control 👍
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