Scientists FINALLY Sequenced The DNA of Pompeii's Victims and It Changes Everything!

[@orcasea59]

I have a new interpretation as well: In the shock, panic and horror of the seemingly eternal pumice and ashfall people died, orphaned children were gathered up and taken in by perfect strangers. Slaves cared for children, as well, and died protecting and attempting to comfort their charges. That is far more likely than the suggestions being made here.

[@kristinmarra7005]

Good lord, they were in a panic saving themselves. You can’t make any assumptions about their groupings

[@KozmicKarmaKoala]

I SMELL WOKE.

[@overworlder]

I suspect displaying social relationships was the last thing on these people’s minds.

[@unbreakable7633]

Substituting one set of unfounded speculation with another set of unfounded speculation is what it sounds like.

[@37silverstreak1]

So, in other words, modern archaeologists are doing the exact same thing now that they are accusing past archaeologists of doing back then. Making assumptions about a culture they know very little about by applying their contemporary ideology and values to a past society. In another 100 years there will be a new group of archaeologists coming up with a completely different scenario! And so the vicious cycle rolls merrily onward!

[@crayzmarc]

Yes, I found this video a bit woke and nothing definitive about it. Great point

[@tjp353]

To be fair, is that not true of all scientific discovery? Observation leads to speculation, which is often tainted by bias. Hypotheses are eventually proven or disproven and progress is made, but a lot of mistakes are made along the way.

[@williamjackson5942]

@@crayzmarc LOL!

[@Ponto-zv9vf]

Hang on! You are making assumptions about archeologists. The speaking voice was mentioned sex roles, family types like the nuclear family, implied sexuality, not any archaeologist. Archaeologists are not geneticists either. Now, saying there were two men, and two boys as indicated by bone fragment dna, in a house in Pompeii, means just that, nothing more. It has been noted that children often become separated from their parents. As to assumptions, people do that all the time. No one knows why their are drawings of a human in a lion skin, or why ancient humans went into dark deep caves to draw lions, bison, horses...and so on. They just did. I have no idea why people watch TikTok or Zombie movies.

[@TheFrog767]

It keeps the same old story up to pay for mortgages

[@hermitlifeinthemountainsub9493]

I have studied Archaeology. My professor had a Phd. I was so mesmerized by the science, and I respect their very hard work. Thank you for showing us more of the tragic event that happened when Mt. Vesuvius erupted.

[@DiscoveryFuture]

I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@desertdarlene]

Perhaps these people were simply pushed together by the pyroclastic flow. The two children may have been on an upper floor that collapsed, for example. The couple that were assumed to be related or lovers could have simply washed or been pushed together by accident. Or, like you said in the video, they simply ran in to get out of the pumice.

[@wolverineeagle]

The North African might be a servant of the children’s family and the other person might just be a passersby who sought shelter. I will also point out that the archeologists are applying their own assumptions and biases. We really have to stop pretending that modern archaeologists are any less biased than previous ones because they aren’t. Technology doesn’t remove bias.

[@DiscoveryFuture]

Good point.

[@paranormalparatrooper.7413]

Yes well said wolverine eagle

[@mrstinkabell123]

These poor people, servants, rich people, Romans or foreign, were thrown together in terror for their lives, probably going to die. I think in these dire and horrifying circumstances they would clutch and grab at anyone to seek some modicum of comfort. They would also probably embrace any children if they had become detached from their families. They were all absolutely terrified. It's hard to imagine now what they must have been feeling and gone through from the comfort of our armchairs. 😢

[@jq71]

This is purely guess work. The presence of two men near children by no means points to different familial structures.

[@elisabethrichard]

No, but it tells us to be wary of unwarranted assumptions.

[@janetannerevans2320]

@@elisabethrichard why are you assuming at all. During that panic who knows who ended up where. Just scientific malpractice.

[@Mulberrysmile]

@@janetannerevans2320 You are assuming there was time for panic. A lot of the remains are of people just doing normal stuff. Sitting in a bathhouse, playing with a kid, out on the street. Maybe a few people far away on the edges of the island had time to panic, and maybe a few people happened to be facing the right direction to see what was coming, but I don’t think most people had any idea.

[@freda3995]

Total nonsense. When such catastrofy occurs it could also be very possible that strangers try to help others and when they die still be together.

[@williamjackson5942]

That is what was said, try to listen to the thing before having your snit fit!

[@Ponto-zv9vf]

Or take shelter in an abandoned house. Some adults will comfort upset children, and having a child to look after can comfort the adult. That's my assumptions.

[@Laxpowertoo]

Excellent video. I have seen some of the casts at Pompeii, and also in the Pompeii exhibition in The museum of science in Boston Ma. a few years back. I've often thought the slightly romantisised descriptions fitted a little too neatly to be correct. I'm always glad to see superb work like this, that brings us nearer to what actually occured all those years ago.

[@DiscoveryFuture]

Thanks for sharing!

[@LMO-f8p]

I saw this exhibit at Boston too. I always asked “who said”, “when did they verify these assumptions”, “where’s the DNA???” Lots of assumptions and claims. I was on a flight from Boston to Arizona and it was an extremely turbulent. The plane dropped a few hundred feet very suddenly and the man and I sitting next to each other hugged each other! This Doesn’t mean we were related, dating, married or even knew each other. Most everyone on the flight was crying and comforting each other. If the plane crashed, Assumptions could have been made about us if our bodies were found in an embrace. That is, Until they checked the flight manifest lists.

[@nigelsheppard625]

Shock horror, Pompeii (that Greek Colony in southern Italy) had a population that was Greek! Who knew? Also a population that is panicked ran and mingle with strangers.

[@rockross8561]

The "Roman Empire" did not include Ireland or Scotland (Hadrian's Wall). Your map is incorrect.

[@Ponto-zv9vf]

That is a tiny thing to get hung up on. Who cares about either place which wasn't Ireland or Scotland at those times. The Romans went into the north of Britain and did their thing there, seizing, killing, but it is known that the far north of Britain had nothing the Romans wanted. So, why waste your time there. There was another wall further north of Hadrian's.

[@superodalisque]

Actually it did include small portions at times

[@silviosposito375]

How interpreting archeological findings following today's ideology. Not very scientific indeed.

[@kyststudio-epicartadventure]

We are all of one human family. In a deep sudden crisis we wouldn’t care who was related to who.

[@josephwarren3498]

No, you are hypothesizing based on your particular perspective and agenda.

[@annalisette5897]

Maybe parents of children believed groups of men had a better chance of escaping by boat or something?

[@Ponto-zv9vf]

Could be, to me it's four people who found shelter in an abandoned house. Children are often lost during disasters, escaping from the war front.

[@Lemma01]

Comedic, frankly. 🎉

[@eliscanfield3913]

It is common enough for a child to be wandering alone in a disaster and for random nearby adults to try to help the kid.

[@tenbear5]

In no way does any of this evidence challenge ‘the nuclear family’. Total gibberish.

[@skeptigal4626]

I barely started watching and I know you’re right.

[@hermitlifeinthemountainsub9493]

What a horrific way to die. I am just guessing that every single citizen of Pompeii would be unable to escape even if they wanted to.

[@samhavoc1066]

Old information and old beliefs created flawed speculation. New information interpreted by new beliefs, creates new flawed speculation.

[@winstonian88]

Exactly right. This video is ridiculous.

[@mogh2603]

05:10 wrong Map , Iran and the Caucasus were never parts of the Roman Empire

[@sUi5Udos]

Neither was Ireland, if they are careless with such basic facts, how can the makers of this video be trusted with other issues?

[@ajourney50]

All these assumptions don't matter. The only thing that matters is that a community suffered a horrific event, and we should respect that, because both Campi Flegrei and Vesuvius have been rumbling lately. And there are way more people living in that region now.

[@v1e1r1g1e1]

The Male + Male + 2 children group looks to me, like 2 Male servants (or slaves) holding up cloths over themselves and the children they were protecting in the last moments before their deaths.

[@janetannerevans2320]

no it is a reflex caused but the extreme heat and the tendons retract.

[@AlicjaChojecka]

How did they take DNA from concrete cast? 01:20

[@yeniserymaya4280]

Right?

[@LilyGazou]

Bone fragments that were left inside

[@celestemulcahy8775]

at 16yrs old, our tour guide in Pompei showed us scenes of group sex frozen on the spot by Gods wrath- in ash

[@armandrodriguez8501]

Those "contemporary gender roles" used by the Victorians are thousands of years old.

[@Ponto-zv9vf]

They probably existed among Hunter Gatherers in the Stone Ages. Even today we have both nuclear families and extended blood families.

[@JaneNewAuthor]

No, they're not. The nuclear family arose out of the Industrial Revolution and is relatively recent. Prior to that families, tribes and communities overlapped far more than they do today.

[@FreshLounger]

The people of Pompeii were dying on their feet. They fell where they were. Why interpret relationships in such a disaster?

[@gitfoad8032]

'challenging our assumptions of the nuclear family'..... duh.

[@seameology]

I learned that when you read an old history book, you must look at both the time in which it was written and the time period that was written about.

[@mikloslegrady965]

These new interpretations sound hysterical, since the new interpretations are not such a big deal.

[@Sharon-f6d5y]

I agree with some of the other comments. It doesn't matter, they were just people trying to survive but dying a hideous death.

[@mrpeterson7592]

Well, this was 8 minutes of nothing.

[@sandoval1977]

🤭

[@Ponto-zv9vf]

We did find out the sex of some bone fragments, and in one case, the assessed skin tone. It is minor.

[@riikkaalanen3429]

First, Roman families were not like “nuclear families” of our times. Second, Romans gave citizenship to their freed slaves, who could be from anywhere in the Empire (a policy that some ancient Greek historians found disturbing since Greek city states were far more exclusive as to who their citizens were). As a result, you might say that citizens of the Roman Empire were ethically very diverse, much like U.S. citizens today.

[@johnkeviljr9625]

Excellent video, but just too much unnecessary guessing. Just stay with facts, as limited as they may be.

[@DiscoveryFuture]

I appreciate the feedback.

[@beauxcarroll8348]

My guess would be that all the Romans and property owners left. Leaving their slaves to guard their property.

[@stevehammel2939]

Looks like another politically correct video for a global story.

[@NotYoung3592]

Oh please

[@jeraldbaxter3532]

No new revelations here. Waste of time, unless the history of Rome and Pompeii is new to you.

[@biggerthanacadillac]

Wonderfully lucid & well spoken commentary (for a change!).....~ more importantly perhaps ~ most interesting content.....thankyou.

[@DiscoveryFuture]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@janetannerevans2320]

simply idiotic.

[@jimmyd4092]

Utter nonsense. If German civilians started heading for a bomb shelter during WW2. They might not know each other they just went the safes place they could find during a life or death emergency. If they all died there what would you really know about them as individuals .

[@williamfranks1215]

The Romans wrote things down, and so did the Greeks.

[@Ponto-zv9vf]

Sometimes rather rude things.

[@williamfranks1215]

@Ponto-zv9vf Yes.

[@johnlansing2902]

Till there is a way to actually view the past , this is all assumptions . Sorry that is not science .

[@philparisi9175]

That’s a real reach to state that the sex of those four people challenges a regular boring family sounds like wishful thinking on your part

[@heru-deshet359]

No DNA of Biggus Dickus found. Sorry. This was getting too depressing.

[@janetannerevans2320]

oh please this is idiotic. How much money was wasted on "rewriting" history??

[@JaneNewAuthor]

Interesting, thank you.

[@DiscoveryFuture]

Thanks for watching!

[@TattoosAndGin]

Keep speculating….

[@paulbriody297]

Pathetic.

[@amineou5332]

In the Coran it says that that was a city of lust and sin and that they were punished by god for their acts

[@ciscotx74]

This is interesting but doesn’t disrupt anyone’s ideas of family structure. Why sensationalize this ? The presence of North Africans shouldn’t surprise anyone. This is applying modern ideas of race and culture upon ancient Romans. You are doing exactly what you are claiming not to do.

[@caroltaylor6570]

Total bs

[@ZeroDayPlus1]

Pure propagandism.

[@greatlambrini8722]

Absolute unproven garbage.

[@ginolorenzo9851]

It wasnt ash they were transitioning on the operating table to change gender

[@philipd1439]

House slaves with a child.

[@danpride2804]

More woke absurdity.

[@TheDanEdwards]

"More woke absurdity."

[@danpride2804]

@@TheDanEdwardsThe conclusions are ridiculous, Gender role conclusions from bodies writhing in 150 degree heat. COMPLETELY ABSURD. Its just more pro gay crap that doesn’t add up

[@williamjackson5942]

@@danpride2804 LOL! It was no such thing....grow up...

[@maryharvey6909]

Woke revisionist history

[@Lucien234-i2z]

What did you think this was mix race gay couple and they adopted two children from the local roman adoption agency. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@leefi1]

The same ideals of "modern life" that skewed the archeologist's viewpoints about Pompeii are the same judgmental mindset that interpreted the civilizations of the Indian Subcontinent as inferior. The hedonism displayed in carvings that they reviled in the temples of India, people engaged in copulation, the glorifying of these acts and the attitudes they found that are unfamiliar, made the British perceive the culture as wanton, crude and revolting. Now, Brits are much more relaxed about sexuality, much less rigid and uncompromising. It's sad that as Western civilization moves forward to a more tolerant, nuanced view of different cultures, America has chosen to move backward and embrace our intolerant past for our future.

[@RPe-jk6dv]

Woke ideology. Great methods, silly conclusions.

[@ericwilliams1659]

Science?

[@TheDanEdwards]

"Woke ideology."

[@lthornton7802]

By the mid-20th century, woke had come to mean 'well-informed' or 'aware', especially in a political or cultural sense.

[@RPe-jk6dv]

@ericwilliams1659 No.

[@RPe-jk6dv]

@@lthornton7802 but now it means The contrary.

[@philparisi9175]

….. or they could be husband and wife

[@Jojojamjar]

gets to the point at about 3 min in

[@dario1837]

👍👍1

[@davidzimmerman1246]

Hey, some people here clicked on the wrong video. The flat earth and alternative science videos are a little further down. Check your algorithm.

[@DiscoveryFuture]

😸

[@sandoval1977]

THROUGHOUT THE CITY YOU CAN SEE TRACES OF SEXUAL INMORALITY, THAT MAKES ME THINK THAT THOSE ADULTS WITH THOSE KIDS PERHAPS WASN'T ANYTHINGS GOOD, I COULD BE WRONG THO..

[@janetannerevans2320]

I THINK YOU ARE WRONG AND DISTURBED.

[@Ponto-zv9vf]

Sexual immorality? That is your beliefs. One shouldn't make those type of assumptions on others separated by you by nearly two thousand years.

[@hrbeta]

It's a well-known fact that Emperor Titus could possibly and probably had been African, maybe… 🥸

[@Abs0lute_Kaos]

Pff a lot of those ppl sat there and burned, soon as i heard a rumble living next to a volcano, i would of got out of dodge, im not gonna be like the ones who die first in the movies, clowns

[@philparisi9175]

That’s a real reach to state that the sex of those four people challenges a regular boring family sounds like wishful thinking on your part