🚨Scientology Held Emily Armstrong's Mother in "The Hole"

[@TeRiFic05]

Also Natalie, finding out your sister was in OSA just recently would also be a wonderful example of how everyone keeps secrets.

[@NatalieLifeAfterACult]

@@TeRiFic05 it’s hard for us to keep track of the secrets over the years. Once in a while, we remember one and tell each other.😁

[@TeRiFic05]

@@NatalieLifeAfterACult ❤️

[@dognerd7280]

The music through the whole thing. No.

[@elenasimon1270]

Yeah. I'll have to skip this one.

[@NatalieLifeAfterACult]

Should it be in parts of it only? I wasn’t sure. I’ll try breaking the music in the next one. Thanks for the feedback. 😊

[@dognerd7280]

@@NatalieLifeAfterACult IMO, maybe just the beginning and end. It was just too much all the way through for me. OR maybe making quieter? Maybe just something to play with.

[@NatalieLifeAfterACult]

@@dognerd7280 I think quieter for sure. I’ll keep playing around with it on future videos.

[@themenna007]

I concur ​@@dognerd7280

[@jessicabeach7818]

The music made it hard to concentrate.

[@thereallisamarchbanks]

Agreed.

[@qienna6677]

Yes, I just paused to say the same thing. It would possibly have worked better if it was much quieter.

[@afila8]

Excellently done Natalie!

[@KSwapTheWorld69]

Never stop following this!

[@kathleencampbe3ll70]

Nice job Natalie! Emily needs to know what happened to her mother. What she does once she knows, that's another story... 😣🤷

[@Stacespiria]

Between my tinnitus and my ADHD, the background music made it too hard for me to follow. Sorry Natalie! But I read the transcript instead and that was very interesting ❤

[@ammibrooks2]

If Emily’s Mother didn’t find a problem with being in “the hole” why would Emily?

[@NatalieLifeAfterACult]

It’s not that she didn’t see a problem with being in the hole, it’s against the rules to talk about it.

[@jezefelto333]

Isn't Emily openly gay?

[@gazman2626]

I was a massive LP fan. Not anymore 😢

[@pamelalugo1537]

Love your music.

[@bradyblackburn4863]

Please consider turning down the background music. It made an otherwise interesting video hard to listen to.

[@NatalieLifeAfterACult]

@@bradyblackburn4863 definitely.

[@catmyerin]

Can't hear over the music.

[@MeAndTaz5]

@NatalieWebsterExSeaOrg…. I like the music and the style was good. Maybe just turn the volume down a bit….👊🐾😘🐶🧡🧡

[@Gunnawundai]

Replay crew 🙃🇦🇺🥰 Thanks Natalie

[@Gunnawundai]

Natalie, you are right about the fact this info will hit a new audience with the LP + Scientology connection. My 21year old came to me with, Mum have you seen this... 🥰

[@mindihill6136]

Same couldn’t watch because of the music

[@tinathelasttwenty1249]

Replay Crew, enjoy 🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺

[@pamelalugo1537]

🙏💜

[@bravo1495]

My question is this: I thought scientologists hated gay people.... So how is Emily supposedly a current member? How come none of the people who are talking about the situation are mentioning that since Emily is openly a lesbian?

[@NatalieLifeAfterACult]

L. Hubbard dictates that gay people cannot be trusted and are criminals and sexual deviants. Emily can be a Scientologist in good standing, and not be an active Scientologist. It is nuanced in the cult. As long as she doesn’t speak against Scientology, they look the other way. Scientology is way more concerned about Scientologist publicly disavowing Scientology, than they are Scientologist, being gay.

[@bravo1495]

@@NatalieLifeAfterACult thank you for that explanation. I will admit that my knowledge about them is very limited, mostly from the South Park episode that made fun of them and a few things from different interviews. I still can't understand how so many people can believe so heavily in the writings of a less than mediocre at best Sci-Fi author. I just recently moved and am working a lot of overtime but once I'm settled in I plan to go through your channel and previous videos and educate myself more on the subject. Thank you again.

[@SuppressiveSquirrel]

Emily will unilaterally ruin Linkin Park. The blow back is strong against her. Her support of Danny Masterson and lack of support for his victims will ensure that.

[@broman6662]

@@SuppressiveSquirrel You are so wrong. They sold out Kia Forum in an hour, and their show in New York sold out in 20 minutes

[@broman6662]

@@SuppressiveSquirrel you are wrong! They sold out Kia Forum in an hour, and their show in New York in 20 minutes

[@RetzyWilliams]

I saw in other channel that Emily's other band was paid for by her parents. Which raises a more general question of how was it possible she was actually in a band but simultaneously allowed to still be in Scientology, like it's actually not forbidden?

[@NatalieLifeAfterACult]

@@RetzyWilliams the band was funded by another band members parent. Emily was not in the sea organization, she would be free to join a band. Though, she was born and raised in the cadet organization, which is part of the sea. She isn’t in the sea now.

[@broman6662]

So what has that to do with Emily, you are not your parents!!!

[@NatalieLifeAfterACult]

She might feel differently about supporting Scientology, if she knew the truth of what her mom experienced. When I was finally open with my mom about the abuses I experienced in the Sea Org, my mom left Scientology with me. Scientologist don’t communicate about these things. They are kept hidden and the victim convinced they deserved it. It’s the same with SA in Scientology. I kept mine a secret for 20 years, because I was being a “good Scientologist.”

[@broman6662]

@@NatalieLifeAfterACult SPTV isnt about fighting scientology anymore. It has turned into a cancel cult lead by cult leader Aaron to take down and cancel individual scientologists that he for some reason hate. SPTV has turned just as shitty as scientology.

[@broman6662]

​@@NatalieLifeAfterACult Nope, this is just an Aaron witch hunt driven by hate and hearsay. And that is sadly what SPTV has become. The cancel cult of Aaron. His mission isnt fighting scientology anymore. His mission is to target individual scientologists and send his viewers after them. And the SPTV follows and do the same. I think this has gone too far. I have no problem in fighting scientology as an organisation. But I do have a problem with Aaron canceling people that he for some reason dont like and ruin their lives. He is just as shitty as scientology and so are you all that is spreading his propaganda. You can take people out of scientology, but it seems almost impossible to take scientology out of people

[@broman6662]

@@NatalieLifeAfterACult Nope, this is just an Aaron witch hunt driven by hate and hearsay. And that is sadly what SPTV has become. The cancel cult of Aaron. His mission isnt fighting scientology anymore. His mission is to target individual scientologists and send his viewers after them. And the SPTV follows and do the same. I think this has gone too far. I have no problem in fighting scientology as an organisation. But I do have a problem with Aaron canceling people that he for some reason dont like. He is just as shitty as scientology and so are you all that is spreading his propaganda. You can take people out of scientology, but it seems almost impossible to take scientology out of people

[@broman6662]

@@NatalieLifeAfterACult Nope, this is just an Aaron witch hunt driven by hate and hearsay. And that is sadly what SPTV has become. The cancel cult of Aaron. His mission isnt fighting scientology anymore. His mission is to target individual scientologists and send his viewers after them. And the SPTV follows and do the same. I think this has gone too far. I have no problem in fighting scientology as an organisation. But I do have a problem with Aaron canceling people that he for some reason dont like and ruin their lives. He is just as bad as scientology and so are you all that is spreading his propaganda. You can take people out of scientology, but it seems almost impossible to take scientology out of people

[@zethpadilla3159]

If you aloud me, Dr Taylor Palmby is one of the best analyzing music and the meaning of lyrics. Sha has found dirty things in a lot of bands. Go and watch her videos. Thanks

[@Colleeniee02]

I think you did a great job and I enjoy the music!! I loved Linkin Park.. I don't know if anyone can replace him..just like Chris Cornell of sound garden. Or Scott from Stone Temple pilots..What the heck were they thinking?! This hole is so disturbing along with how they treat the children !!

[@MGhobbyroom]

Music at the same time as talking gets a no from me. It's too distracting.

[@sarahcrawford2204]

I can’t with the music. Unnecessary and way too loud.

[@dogcrazy25]

Omg, did you add music to these videos? I speak 5 min looking to see what i turned on on my phone. The music is awful and unnecessary, pleasr, please stop. I love your videos but will skip sections wirh this music. 😭😭😭😭

[@dogcrazy25]

Im confused Natalie. I thought you said you were happy for her opportunity. Understood why she couldn't speak out. Now your saying what exactly?

[@NatalieLifeAfterACult]

I am happy for her opportunity. I understand the pressure and mind control around feeling you can’t speak out. She still needs to take responsibility for her own actions in regard to Scientology. She can’t sing the songs from Linkin Park and not be an advocate for mental health. I think it’s possible to feel both things at the same time. 😊 Leaving Scientology is complicated. She has to be willing to lose her family. Scientology is considered to be one of the hardest cults to recover from. Nothing happens overnight.

[@dogcrazy25]

@@NatalieLifeAfterACult thanks for clarifying.

[@NatalieLifeAfterACult]

@@dogcrazy25 anytime. I appreciate the question.

[@jskeyboardwarrior-pe9kn]

Liked and shared

[@NatalieLifeAfterACult]

Mahalo! Emily needs to know the truth.

[@shamszakhour6076]

Natalie, PLEASE STOP THE MUSIC. Some of us have a certain kind of hearing loss where we can't hear in an environment with background music.

[@arcanumi.fallet8322]

I'm a little bit late to this scandal, but I don't think I've seen this mentioned anywhere yet, which I find so strange. Also, this perhaps means little in the greater scheme of the situation, and I may as well be wrong but... Could it be that Emily had THE chat with the Linkin Park boys about her past and present, expressing how she's essentially trapped in an impossible place, and that lead to them collectively, perhaps naively, deciding their first single off their introductory album would be, arguably, anti-religion? I can totally see the Linkin Park that I've known forever trusting the fans would lean into that interpretation and just get the message Emily's singing out loud - that she feels helpless and in the grips of abuse by a powerful institution, but she sees what they are and what they do, and wants to free herself of it. I speak about that and I do it here, as opposed to the channel that introduced me to you (Aaron's) because I've listened to you taking a more hunane and understanding stance in regards to her and her experience, which I share and believe to be fair. Is that to say that singing an intentionally cryptic song only partly about how religious organizations are inherently corrupt enough, even if it comes from someone who they knew would be asked to send some sort of message? No, probably not. But I wouldn't put past Emily and Linkin Park thinking art could speak loud enough. You know? It's a 90s kid thing. 😬

[@sylviebraun19]

Love you but I have ADHD and the music is so triggering 😢

[@NatalieLifeAfterACult]

The next one I edit won’t have the music so prominent.😁

[@samuelreed6519]

I love Emily since she started Dead Sara and nothing will change my mind about her. Emily was born in to Scientology, the last known evidence we have her in Scientology was 12 years ago, the same time she started Dead Sara. You should know how dangerous it is to speak out against the cult. She needs time.

[@NatalieLifeAfterACult]

It’s more dangerous to be silent about Scientology, than to stand up to Scientology, when you know the truth about it, from my perspective. Emily should be loved and she should have all the success she deserves. I want that for her. She is talented. What I also want for her is true freedom from this abusive, homophobic, human trafficking cult. Her mother was kept in a Sea Org prison known as The Hole, along with many others who were mentally and physically abused. Emily doesn’t know this because it’s against Scientology rules to tell her. Scientologist can’t read or watch anything that questions or exposes Scientology. Before I broke free from Scientology mind control, I kept my SA a secret from my family for 20 years, because I was following the rules and staying silent. It was covered up by Scientology. They went on to cover up much more SA. As they did before me. Scientologists have died by their own hand because they were denied proper mental health treatment. This is why I feel, it’s more dangerous to stay silent about Scientology, than to stand up to them and say no more.

[@zethpadilla3159]

You are brave to speak the truth. Sorryfull now they are saying members of Linkin Park( that by the way, they are one of the most famous creations of Mainstream. All they care is money not art. ) are part of scientologist. I used to Bealive in Emily Armstrong as a musician, but now I feel music is dead. But I do thanks to You, We now more about this horrible horrible cult. Tom Cruise still there happy and making more and more money. Oh! By the way all the fans of Linkin Park don't care. All the tickets are sold out around the world!

[@jackharper_games9046]

@Scientology - Life After a Cult You can speak to this better cause it's third hand, but ex members I have talked to since the backlash, If she is leaving - it's best to go out with your head down and mouth shut else wise you open yourself up to harassment and attacks by the organization.