Earnest, Uneven Seas | Mario & Luigi: Brothership Review

[@Zyckro]

"A flawed but heartfelt voyage" is the perfect way to describe this game. It has a sincere message it wants to give people of all ages, and it's not subtle about it. There is just a lot of water that dilutes the flavor of your otherwise hot chocolate, if we are to make analogies to liquid. :) Still, sometimes you'll find a little marshmallow in there that tastes so good.

[@rosant7074]

Its like a snowball. Its slow at the start, But oh boy does it accelerate.

[@paulgilbert5278]

And by the end it's so big it knocks you out by how good it turned out

[@Hamantha]

Idk, that doesn’t sound like good design

[@holly9690]

@@Hamantha It isn’t.

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

@@Hamantha. No, it's not typically a good direction. (For reasons you can probably figure out.) However, given the circumstances, probably the best possible outcome. (Well, without just making the game good, of course.)

[@rodrigoandrade8586]

​@@HamanthaBut a good experience

[@RetroLiminal99444]

49:17 I AGREE. MILES AND MILES. I’m tired of people complaining that Brothership’s writing is bad, I know the comedy is toned down but that’s because they wanted the game to be more heartfelt and to take its stakes that it’s presenting more seriously. What’s wrong with that direction?

[@LunaticJ]

54:45 This very obvious twist actually caught me by surprise and I feel incredibly embarrassed admitting that

[@Dustricity]

Same, I didn't expect it at all. It also really caught me off guard that the Conducter just told them the plot twist? Like why didn't they just let us find out it's her after we defeat zocket? To be fair, I think the English names gives away the plot twist a bit. In German the names are Madame Peretta and Steckdov, which isn't a phonetic anagram like in the English version, so there wasn't really a connection between the two. To me at least.

[@darthflagitious2859]

I don’t think Luigi jumping in place is a bug. When jumping on a flat, even surface he follows you. It’s when you’re jumping between platforms or uneven terrain that he jumps in place. They don’t want you to use Luigi’s jump for platforming, because if you mess up then they’ll get separated. They just want you to focus on Mario, and let Luigi do the platforming himself. Luigi’s jump button is little more than a formality.

[@Hamantha]

What’s even the point then? Part of the point was navigating with both bros

[@darthflagitious2859]

@@Hamantha there barely is one. I loved this game, but this was one of my biggest issues with it. It doesn’t feel like you’re playing as Mario and Luigi, it feels like you’re playing as Mario, and Luigi is just tagging along.

[@vivalagamb7034]

​@@darthflagitious2859I appreciate what they were going for and it is also a different kind of fun having a Luigi with autonomy, it really does feel like you're playing as two brothers as opposed to just controlling two people, but I completely understand how it takes some people out of it

[@darthflagitious2859]

@@vivalagamb7034 for me it feels like it’s taking away one of the things that made traversal in these games so unique compared to its peers. Having to platform using both bros was unlike anything you’d find in most RPGs. In a year where we already got 2 other amazing Mario RPGs that feature some decent platforming, I really wish they had kept this feature to help differentiate this series from the others.

[@endernightblade1958]

@@Hamantha its in the unlikely event an enemy targets luigi and he’s in the position to first strike. because he can.

[@jobot0114]

The other Bros Moves _do_ actually have some battle utility, specifically the upgraded forms. Abducting an enemy with the UFO Spin and dashing into an enemy with the Bro Ball both count as their own first strikes, as well as the explosion from the Fire and Ice Bros counting as a damaging first strike that actually is the best one you can do in terms of damage.

[@Raiz136]

The game even mentions this in the tutorial pop-ups when obtaining the upgraded Bros Moves

[@TheMajinHermit]

I think the games not having any kind of Gimmick is probably for the best since it's this new studios first time making a Mario & Luigi game best to make sure you've nailed the fundamentals before trying anything else.

[@darthflagitious2859]

THANK YOU for mentioning the cards from paper jam! Every review just glosses over them and compares the plugs to badges from BIS, when the cards are the much more apt comparison.

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

To be fair, most people probably quit Paper Jam before even getting out of the first level. (If they bought the game at all.)

[@darthflagitious2859]

@ too true

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

@@darthflagitious2859. I just looked up the sales figures for Paper Jam and, yeah, rounding up to 1.1 million ain't exactly a huge amount of people so not many even touched it, and the ones that got past the first level are probably not much bigger than half a million. (Quite the drop from Dream Team's 2.7 million and pretty much a nosedive from the almost 5 million of OG Bowser's Inside Story.)

[@meloelebi1996]

Recognized this immediately. Then again people are quickly glossing over Paper Jam in general since the plot makes it easy to, despite the mechanics and occasional joke references. Heck you essentially get Paper Mario's flutter jump as an option.

[@that1femboy643]

19:55 This is not true. You can use both the ufo and the bro ball to first strike. Using a charge does a single target first strike and using the ufo suck gives an easy jump first strike.

[@jaiamweasel9442]

Peak has finally arrived

[@Ghosthitman387]

Honestly I really liked Reclusa as a villain. It’s nice to finally get someone other than Bowser, and despite only being present in the last 15% of the game he made a mark, moreso than Antasma.

[@Folutu]

I think in Reclusa's case it helps that you get the "collect Bonds in your watering can" quest before you go into the Soli-Tree because he'll appear on the ship a couple times while you're progressing that quest and those small moments do wonders to establish his character to the player. Like, the most you know about him beforehand is that he is currently an egg and that if he awakens, he will turn the world of Concordia into a world of solitude, and that sounds very much like what a typical RPG evil god would be all about, then he hatches and traps most of the Concordians into their own pocketed illusions of paradise. He makes it clear early on that he very much enjoys what he does and that he will be a dick about it in ways that's easy for an actual human to understand, and that makes it very easy in turn for us to keep going so we can take him down.

[@NaveRellim34]

I loved this game. I finished it today. My one major complaint was the lack of bossfights for how long this game is. This could have been easily fixed by having you individually fight the other two members of the extension corps that you originally dont between lighthouse 2 and 3 and they could have done a Bowser Jr. Bossfight and a Kamek bossfight between lighthouse 3 and 4 to stick with the whole Bowser theme of that section of the game. This would add 4 bossfights and help with the pacing

[@buzzytrombone4353]

I think that the Assistant should've been a boss fight for Bulbfish Island.

[@meloelebi1996]

@@NaveRellim34 Honestly I think there's a good amount of boss fights but they could use more variety between them instead.

[@ivanzoneBR]

26:52 The same type of sidequest appears in TTYD too

[@ScionVyse]

True, but it's a lot easier to ignore in TTYD, and the context of it isn't as blatantly pointless.

[@孫其暐]

51:53, *sigh, I really don't want to be the guy, but this part right here is apparent a pretty minor translation mistake, a genuine simple mistake that for some reason really annoying me to no end due to the misconception it created. I would say I'm pretty pissed even, which is completely unnecessary to being with, but still. To be more accurate and clear about my point, we have a localization mistake here. You see, there exist many ways to describe height, we have existed units of measurement designed specifically to measure exact lengths, but we also have unconventional terms to describe an approximate or vague value. Some may use ?? feet tall to measure height, while other cultures use ?? head tall to measure height. See where I'm going at? What happened here is that Starlow was meant to say she is an "eight-head-tall" beauty, not "eight-headed", so I'm afraid, biblically accurate Starlow was never a thing. In the Japenese script, Starlow was saying this: "す これは仮の姿だからね! 本当は八頭身の美女だし。" this is exact word by word. It's mostly the same message about how this form is only temporary. And she refers to herself as a beauty, using "head" tall as measurement. But apparently, translator machines tend to switch [八頭身] into [eight-headed], which is what ultimately lead to this misconception. Now, I can't for the life of me, read, understand or even attempt to translate Japanese, but from what the Chinese version's text is saying, I'm pretty confident Starlow was using head-tall as measurement. I will not be saying the ENG translation is entirely wrong, since I'm unqualified for such thing. But I have the right to question if it was translated correctly. Which is likely what happened here. I'm sorry if I'm coming off as extremely arrogant, unreasonable or fun-ruining even, but this misunderstanding about Starlow being a biblically accurate entity is really bothering me to no end.

[@DaNintendude]

I saw a conversation on Discord last night where some people were talking about this. I'm actually glad that it's a localization error, because Starlow being a freaky angel just didn't feel right to me (as funny as it is). The conversation ended with someone asking if anyone took that line seriously, since it's clearly a joke. But yeah, I've definitely seen people treat it as genuine lore for Starlow, rather than a throwaway line, and this video definitely proved that, lol.

[@thefrubblewarrior4678]

It’s a very fun misconception, you can at least admit that.

[@thefrubblewarrior4678]

The misconception spread due to how funny the implications are, but because it’s so widespread you also don’t want the original intents to be lost… in a mistranslation. Really the only thing that comes off as pretentious is the need to preface this statement with “I don’t wanna be that guy”. Prefacing your anger at it was more than enough. Besides it may not be biblically accurate angel scale, but it’s certainly a grander scale that Starlow’s regular appearance.

[@mageenter]

The newest of Mario & GREEN MARIO’s crazy bizarre adventures :0

[@Sparx632]

I don’t agree on the Bros attacks being too easy at all, it’s very easy to mess up the Zapparator is easy to mess up the timing on, the alignment on the Jump Helmet, the Bomb Derby requires a very specific rhythm that takes a while to master and the Conductor Connector is also pretty hard to master with the final X press being incredibly specific on the timing, I would constantly press it exactly as the two crosshairs aligned just for it to count it as too early or too late and do a Great attack instead.

[@DaNintendude]

Zapperator took me forever to get the hang of. There were tons of times early on where I only got to "Great" level, because my rhythm would be thrown off. Bomb Derby became the easiest bros attack once I figured it out, but it took awhile to get there. Especially since the rhythm is a bit different than in past games. Conductor Connector was horribly difficult. I never struggled with the final X press, but getting the analog stick to do what you want it to in the first phase was not simple to me. Clockout Blow was another that I screwed up a lot. Not because it's hard, but because it's long and monotonous. I would want the attack to be over and thus accidentally press the wrong bro's button, making the attack worthless. If you miss out on the final flashy excellent part, then your attack greatly reduces in usefulness.

[@DoctorMario606]

Zapperator is easy af what are you talking about

[@Sparx632]

@@DoctorMario606 It is but it's easy to mess up the timing, if you get ahead of yourself and hit the wrong button Mario and Luigi will flinch for a solid second which completely messes up the rhythm.

[@DoctorMario606]

@@Sparx632 In my opinion I'd say it's easy to get back into it. The only reason I'd ever lose my rhythm is because the game would lag

[@awesomesmileyguy]

Yeah Conductor is a bitch to use. It takes forever to get to 120% but you can still fuck it all up if you miss the crosshair by a nanosecond

[@MusicJunkie37]

The best review for this game most likely. Also noticed during the intro you gained 3k subscribers after this, you deserve it. I subbed too!

[@henrydiamond3435]

When I saw this game get revealed for the first time months ago, I was so happy, I damn-neared, cried man, this game feels like a dream and I haven't woken up yet. Also last things I have to say is this game in my opinion has the best story and bros attacks in the series and it's not even close.🙏

[@donanilao7724]

Connie is so adorable. I need a plushie of her right now. That's all my commentary.

[@ComplicatedMoose137]

great video, enjoyed

[@nathanrivera1463]

I was really looking forward to this game when it was first announced and I was hyped to see this series return after its 9 year hiatus. I recently finished my first playthrough and it was a great game. Plus I created my own Tierlist after I finished the game.

[@Opalkitsune.]

The mysterious swirled reef could be interpreted as a reference to the drill shell bros attack from paper jam

[@rosant7074]

52:00 Get the Kirby team of dial, they'll cook up something... "Accurate"

[@NewSoupWiiHii]

Ain’t the final boss literally a Kirby boss though

[@buzzytrombone4353]

For me, I struggled to stay fully invested in the game when I first got to Fortress Zokett, and had to revisit it again and then go to the Soil-Tree. I can see what they were going for with it, with this feeling of unresolved issues and stuff, but it should have gone in a direction where in one visit, everything crazy that happened, still happened, in order to keep the feeling of the villain uprooting the heroes in tact, replacing what is conventional with something fresh as opposed to adding more stuff for you to do and that if you're expecting the end, you are getting it, but it's not the one that you were fully expecting. Feeling like that you're about to reach the ending of the game three times and then suddenly being given more stuff to do, is quite frankly a pain in the arse for a lot of people.

[@brandonvillamizar1216]

Yup, that happened to me. I ALMOST quit the game once I knew I had to look for the bonds, and then, the soli-tree was actually quite fun (and then you have to look for reclusa in the mushroom kingdom, boring af) and then you can actually beat the game.

[@meloelebi1996]

​@@brandonvillamizar1216 Ditto, particularly bad when the series normally has a pretty consistent and brisk pace overall.

[@buzzytrombone4353]

@@meloelebi1996 It always had problems with pacing. Dream Team and Paper Jam being the worst offenders.

[@meloelebi1996]

@@buzzytrombone4353 I don't think those are story pacing but tutorial pacing and paper toad pacing respectively from what people complain about. Not to mention those are hated because most of the series is very good with it otherwise. Brothership had minor problems with its story pacing from the start, never completely shook it off, and hit fairly hard near the end.

[@buzzytrombone4353]

@@meloelebi1996 Paper Jam was the only one of the two that had story problems because most of it was built entirely around getting to Bowser's Castle with paper based road blocks thrown in. Only for that to be thrown out of the window when it rose into the air and the others were thrown off when easily the same stuff could happen, but with Mario, Luigi and Paper Mario hanging on for dear life and diving head first as a form of revenge for Bowser destroying Peach's Castle.

[@RollingPow0420]

42:42 not he main battle theme? Thats probably my favourite one in the series

[@DaNintendude]

A lot of people seem to like the main battle theme, but I was not a fan at all. Probably my least favorite in the series.

[@Ravenbeak2564]

Brothership does start slow, but it's a really good game reviews like ign's really piss me off cus it's clear they barely paid attention or even got that far into the game. They have petty complaints too like we waited forever for a new m+l like did you expect a new one immediately after AD shut down what?

[@Enan63.]

Amazing review! New to your channel you did an good job!

[@blackfrostfan5326]

46:48 massive metaphor spoiler btw 😭

[@sahilhossain8204]

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[@draccqueen1770]

The pacing absolutely started to kill this game for me in the end. By the time I got to the gulchrock sea and it started to get really, REALLY good, I was starting to get burnt out. And then after the SECOND infiltration of fortress zokket, when I thought I was close to beating the game and then found out there was still more to go I didn't pick it back up for a while. Like I was enjoying the game a ton but I was also getting exhausted with it. I really think the endgame could have been massively trimmed to combine the two quests to get back into fortress Zokket, and honestly, I know they wanted four islands per sea, but cut the stupid bulbfish and maze ones and don't make me go back to twistee island. That was so unnecessary.

[@zariaalhajmoustafa2573]

All the secondary effect of bro move can you use the strike enemy not just the Fire and Ice flower

[@PeterioDX]

21:30 That just means you know how to do good game design🙂

[@paulgilbert5278]

Rough around some edges but still great. Especially in the last 2/3s of the game

[@that1femboy643]

The 1st and 2nd boss battle theme are some of my favorites in the whole series. I'm surprised people aren't too fond.

[@Folutu]

I'm personally really fond of the normal battle theme, which I think is second only to Superstar Saga in terms of normal M&L battle themes. the 2nd boss theme is also among my favorites once I finally got to hear it.

[@that1femboy643]

@ agreed, battle theme is really good, 2nd behind Superstar saga

[@r.a.miller9385]

Another great video

[@ItsDangerX]

6:40 as they often do indeed

[@mbii7667]

35:30 I'm gonna have to hard disagree with you there. I can never pull off an excellent of the Bomb Derby Bros move without using the Auto-Excellent plug.

[@mellowhi634]

49:17 I think that’s exactly why I don’t like the story. It holds back the zaniness of the previous games for a more heartfelt and grounded story and keeps nonstop hammering the message of bonds and friendship that it sort of becomes meaningless. I feel like any attempt to hold back the comedy and zany aspects of the story goes against what the series as a whole is. Why do I feel so alone on this?

[@carlosbleu7396]

They tried to propose a deeper story but because of all pacing issues, some elements fall flat or lack of development (like the friendship between Bowser Jr and Buddy which would have needed more screen time or the duo Connie/Cozette which is one of the less interesting and less worked of the game). I still prefer the antagonists unlike Antasma who was really disappointing (despite I prefer Dream team more). For now, my rank would be: 3>1>2>4>6>5. No games is really bad (they have all their qualities and flaws) but some elements make them better than other ones.

[@Sloptopia]

The writing of this game feels like Paper Mario but without the sharp humor

[@carlosbleu7396]

The humor in this game is fine but clearly not as good as the previous game (and the pacing issues don't help).

[@razorbackroar]

Masterpiece

[@Nikolas0269]

YEah it's unfortunete that this game was rushed and didn't have time for a one year extra, in development. hopefully this will get fixed or patched for the next installment like Switch 2

[@carlosbleu7396]

One of the biggest disappointment of this game was the lack of boss rush: the three previous games offered us this (even Paper Jam let us a score according the time spent to fight).

[@TheTallestGiraffe]

This is literally the plot of Naruto.

[@jefferyandbob3137]

best ML game imo, the flaws dont bother me much if at all honestly because the pros are just that good.

[@Gamertag3608]

Mmmm to me it's second in my ranking above superstar saga But below Bowser inside story I think bis is untouchable in terms of playing it I do have minor complaints but it never really hurts my ranking that is awful fawful express bro's and Bowser special attack challenges and super bosses altho those are optional and not necessarily for 100% Brother ship does have some problems like some early game can be long until it snows ball and major things I prefer bis to brother ship and I think bis story is much better plus it takes a crazy idea of a game mostly inside Bowser for the bro's and just perfects it but again not a bad game still a good return for the series but I think final boss is more memorable plus in the final is iconic and u can't think this peak in terms of a story

[@leoburnel6535]

Yeah overall it was still a fun game but man i feel like the comedy is just not as good as it was before, the framerate drop is really terrible before you get the ship teleport and man the pacing was by far the worse thing. It felt reaaaally redundant for a while. The thing that kept me playing was the appearance of bowser in the story

[@Hollow_Knightenjoyer]

I don’t really like Zokket even using this perspective, he just feels weak as he feels like he doesn’t do anything but appear to say something’s instead of causing change to the world

[@imprudentdev1503]

I had quite a lot of problems with the story, I quickly soured on it after realising not much had happened in the first 15 hours and became extremely hyper critical, so much so that I was calling this the worst story (excluding Paper Jam) for a bit, I still think it's bad, or just not my cup of tea, but the last quarter or so is pretty good, barring the obvious padding

[@carlosbleu7396]

Many people think the game is great: that's not because one part is very good that all the rest is good (it's like saying Home on the range is an excellent movie only for the yoodle scene). It is still a good game but flawed on many points. I would give it a 7/10.

[@DoctorMario606]

I'd go as far to say Paper Jam is more fun from a gameplay standpoint than Brothership. One example that comes to mind is the fight where the Extension Corps use battle plugs. Compared to the Ludwig and Larry fight, it came off as kinda lame because they didn't go far enough with the concept.

[@carlosbleu7396]

I agree that Paper Jam proposed more challenges and especially boss arena with ranks (unlike Brothership which only let us to fight one last time lighthouse keepers). The famous fight with the Extension corps is interesting and fun but it would have been better if the fight wouldn't have been scripted.

[@Mut4ntG4m3r]

Exactly. Although it can Feel tedious around the end aswell, as per the Nature of These Games Could have Used some old chars Return more though, less new ones. And collectables... And Classic bro moves? Movement was slightly slippy(jumping) but OK Its by No means perfekt but a great entry in the series Also that Remake should have been from Partners in time. Thats why it flopped... Some bro moves were actually hard, like the bombs. But theexcellency plug helped here... Standard Battle Theme is catchy Connie...dunno, to me rather means to an end Charakter and more annoying...

[@Mut4ntG4m3r]

I would Love More bean bean Kingdom Story though

[@Nonjola]

Unfortunately, the game has too many significant flaws for me to continue playing. While it’s possible that it improves later on, it feels unreasonable to expect players to invest 15 to 20 hours just to experience the good aspects.

[@that1femboy643]

I just think the game isn't for you. If you don't enjoy it when you start playing, you won't enjoy it later. I thought the beginning was really good, and I enjoyed the whole game. But it seems like some people just don't like it and that is OK.

[@paulgilbert5278]

@@that1femboy643 Yeah if it ain't for you it ain't for you. But personally, early growing pains is a small price to pay to experience the latter stuff. Once you play something like DK64, Brothership isn't all that dragging

[@troybell7444]

I found this game bittersweet, as it had peach getting kidnapped in this game. But not by bowser or some new villain.😡 hopefully I will wait for the next Mario game where peach IS kidnapped by bowser or some new villain.

[@C_Arson]

What are you talking about? The Extension Corps/Zokket's army are the ones holding her captive in that brief period in the story where you can choose to have her get caught on purpose to investigate their plans. How do the Extension Corps/Zokket not count as new villains? Also, I am completely baffled as to why anyone would be upset at Peach _not_ getting kidnapped. Hasn't she been the Damsel in Distress enough times? Why is it a bad thing for her to serve a different role in the story?

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

@@C_Arson. Especially after Paper Jam where that was literally the story and nothing else, but also being doubled? I think you guys have had your fill of that crap. (And probably got tired of it over a decade ago after New Soup was finished.)

[@clean-6291]

I made a real effort to play through this game on launch, but after hitting the 10 hour mark and feeling genuinely bored most of the time I played it, I had to put it down. They really expect you to spend so much time before there's any meaningful depth added to the gameplay.

[@brandonvillamizar1216]

I beat the game today and here are my complains: -you've got around five bros moves only for each bros, so that means you have to watch them over and over again. After 55 hours you don't want to watch them anymore. -The plugs are kinda useless, I mean , they last 5 turns but need 25 turns to charge the game, so, what's the point? Most of time your normal moves are op against most enemies, but having to fight 5 enemies makes you use either the limited plugs or the unbearable bros moves (and if you don't get excellent then you lost a couple of minutes of your life) -the part in which you need to look for the bonds is boring, you're prepared enough to fight reclusa, so why do you need to go again to each island and talk to some chars? The rest of the game is a solid 8.5 out of 10.

[@bartsneezin]

"This game could've used one more year of polish to smooth out all of it's rough edges and become the best in the series... but not every game can be Tears of the Kingdom". Please tell me this was sarcasm. ToTK is bloated, unpolished, and suffers from terrible pacing, just like Brothership. Both these games suffer from very similar issues.

[@that1femboy643]

What part of the pacing of ToTK felt off to you? Did you enjoy or feel the same way about BotW?

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

@@that1femboy643. I find with these comments that, 9 times out of 10, they're either lying or parroting opinions from elsewhere. As someone who played a lot of TOTK, the pacing was no different from BOTW in most spots. (In the exceptions, it was actually better paced in some regards, and it wasn't really that much more bloated than BOTW.)

[@bartsneezin]

@@dragonbornexpress5650 I played 50 hours of TOTK before dropping it because yes, the pacing is bad. In BOTW, after you leave the Plateau, you can unlock upgrades like enhancing gear or increasing inventory slots by amassing specific amounts of currency, such as rupees, korok seeds, or spirit orbs. You typically get this currency over time through exploration. The purpose of attaching upgrades in this game to currency is so that no matter which direction the player chooses after leaving the plateau, the player is always making progress if they are interacting with the environment and looking for secrets. TOTK's pacing feels worse to me because upgrading Link is now tied to specific locations and events, and if you choose to go anywhere that isn't Rito village after the great sky island, you make it way less likely to run into helpful abilities at a time where they won't be replaced by stronger late-game mechanics. Auto-build being hidden in a very specific part of the depths is probably the worst example of this. It's the most helpful and crucial ability in the game, and if you ignore the questline pointing to it and don't explore that area, you could easily go 100 hours without finding it. I also found that the scale of the Underground being so large was a detriment to the game's overall pacing. It's massive, has very little to do that isn't repetitive enemy camps and recycled bosses, and it takes hours and hours of exploration to find the light roots required to light up maybe 15% of it. This is also why I say the game is bloated. There is so much busy work in this game with very little reward. At least in BOTW when you do a shrine, you get a piece of a very necessary stamina or heart upgrade. Korok seeds also average 20 seconds or less to finish, like picking up a rock, dropping an apple, or moving a metal cube into place. In TOTK, reuniting Koroks with their lost friends takes several minutes of fucking around and usually a couple retries if your build sucks. This nets you a whopping two seeds. Completing one of the 50 fallen sign puzzles gets you... cooked food. Not worth it at all. You can spend a full hour in the underground and get... maybe one battery? There's so many instances of quests or tasks in this game that require a serious time investment but give stingy or unhelpful rewards. This feels like bloat to me and I felt like my time was being disrespected. Also the reused map is bad. I made sure to visit every major location in my playthrough before dropping it to see if enough had changed to make me think the reused map was good. Much of the new content (mushroom questline, finding logs for Lurelin village) was, much to my surprise, more unrewarding busywork. I would probably not love this game even if it had a new map because there's so much filler, but the reused map completely kills the fun of exploration for me. I've seen most of this before, and the game very rarely proved me wrong.

[@DustyDust5]

Definitely walked away with a much less positive feeling by the end of the game, so it's interesting to see where some people found it heartfelt, I think it's never been more disconnected and soulless in its narrative. They talk nice, but there's little heart in the dialogue or characters past the most basic of messages that plenty of anime and games have already done better without trying all that hard, in a fraction of the runtime. This game is just way too long, for much too little actual payoff. I have my own video yapping about my perspective, so felt I should check some others, but guess it just ain't for me.

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

If it's not for you, that's fine.

[@dough8869]

We live in a timeline where a content rich RPG and very simple to understand story with lots of unique characters is somehow not enough.

[@DustyDust5]

@dough8869 If that was your experience with Brothership, more power to ya. I'll agree that it's simple to understand, at least.

[@dough8869]

@@DustyDust5 The content of the game isn’t subjective.

[@NurioMarayana]

As someone who talked to every NPC multiple times throughout the game (as their dialogue changes throughout the game), I have to agree that really none of them had anything particularly interesting or unique to say. Only the characters with names at least had *something* going for them. This kinda made the beginning half very boring as they don't really do anything with the named characters until much later. But on the flipside, I do have to say that the messaging in like the last few hours suddenly got pretty strong

[@polux178]

nice review👍 and the game is fucking long😭😭lm 140 hours plus and im still like 70 or 80% at the game, echoes of widsom 50 hours and i already beat the game😂 and i wish it had 6 plugs, one more plug would be perfect, five plugs makes u often change, but 6 plugs would do awesome damages

[@Joeman875]

First view Great video