Scooter Vlog - Scooter Countersteering

Counter steering is only applicable to true motorcycles, right?
Um, yeah right.
Master counter steering on a 49cc scooter and you will avoid everything that the roads will throw at you!
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[@fintonmainz7845]

The name "countersteering", though accurate, confuses some people and causes them to hesitate. "do I steer in the opposite way to what I instinctively do?" When almost everyone instinctively countersteers. I think the best way to think about is: "push left to go left. Push right to go right"

[@ScooterwolfsMotovlog]

Good topic. The smaller wheels of the scooter create less of a gyroscopic force than the larger wheels of a motorcycle would. This means there's less resistance to steering, allowing a scooter to be more response and controllable on the turns compared to most MCs. A Sports or even a Maxi-scooter will leave the bigger bigs behind on the twisties like the Dragon's Tail. I learned to ride and the use of counter-steering on a 50cc scooter. When I took the BRC I passed top of my class on a 250cc motorcycle mainly because of the experiences and confidence I got from riding a scooter and.

[@SauvikRoy]

I find counter steering on scooter to be very dangerous. Mostly, going over 60kmph on scooter is dangerous. The small wheels are too risky. I still think scooter guys might be better in few maneuvers, but for the most part, I love my motorcycle, and shall stick to it.

[@Doticaster]

I love counter steering, it's the only way I manoeuvre. I learnt how to do it on my scooter back in the day and like you say with them being so light and with small wheels, they certainly shift from side to side. Counter steering is a big part of the motorcycle test in the uk, you've got to be able to do it to pass your mod1 whilst riding at no less than 32mph through the speed trap. All good fun, lol Tcrs fella ✊

[@SoopaBee]

That is smart! We don't include this in the motorcycle test here in my state anyway. We really should. Thanks for stopping by brother!

[@BikesDrones]

Counter steering is one of our best tools in the toolbox for bikes and scooters. I love to increase my counter steering in braking corners, increase the braking and increase counter steering at the same time reduces the tendency of the bike to "stand up" in a braking corner. Peace out.

[@SoopaBee]

Great suggestion! I'm always too scared to touch the brakes in a turn but what you say makes sense.

[@TDubsKid]

you really do have to practice countersteering and consciously think about it because it's easy to steer the wrong way in a panic situation unless countersteering is ingrained in the brain

[@SoopaBee]

Practice, practice, practice! So true brother.

[@ibrajimenez2098]

Is this around Park Hill? I use to live a couple blocks from there! Awesome video!

[@Fee.1]

So is there more benefit learning to ride a motorcycle then a scooter or vice Versa

[@Broncoride]

Just look where you want to go and you'll go there. Body takes over naturally where to push to go. Good topic

[@SoopaBee]

Well, I agree. But...I think when you actively practice countersteering, you can actually react quicker with more maneuverability. But that's just me...

[@Broncoride]

+SoopaBee you're absolutely correct. Great to practice.

[@Viper6-MotoVlogger]

counter steering also works on bicycles at high speeds. I used to road race and used it all the time. Ride safe bro.

[@SoopaBee]

I don't think I've ever gotten my bicycle up to speeds that fast!

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

It works at any speed. Slow, fast, stupidly fast. Even when you do not move it works.

[@WheelsNotHeels]

Thanks for sharing this...I didn't realize it was the same. There...I admitted it. lol!

[@SoopaBee]

And this is why you are the best! No fakin' the funk and this is why we love you!

[@adampearc3336]

Everyone seems so nice but this was 4 years ago, how everyone can change over time is mental

[@AIRMotovlogs]

I believe this concept applies to anything on 2 wheels.....☺👍👍

[@TheRealMrCods]

Doesnt work too well on a BMX or mountain bike.

[@SoopaBee]

I think you are right. EVEN on a bicycle as you get up to speed.

[@AIRMotovlogs]

+SoopaBee yeah... however am sure abt the possibility of the same on a BMX bike,as mentioned...

[@TheRealMrCods]

Only at extreme speed

[@dcfamous]

Do you use counter steering also on your corners?

[@mountainbikerpaul2267]

If you ever get the chance, test ride a Vespa GTS300, you'll be amazed how well they handle bumps and how quick off the line they are, I almost bought the 125 version, but the salesman said I would prefer the power of the 300 especially as I was used to motorbikes. You could do a test ride video upload for your channel if you do, be good to see your opinion on them! Cheers, Paul.

[@SoopaBee]

Thanks for letting me know! I've never ridden any scooter over 50ccs. I'd love to even test out a 125.

[@andypandy.]

nice nice nice...... now here is the kicker, I don't push....... I pull. The arm is designed and operates better in a pulling motion. I practiced counter steering long ago when I started riding and just developed my own style using a pull method, same principle, if I want to go right instead of pushing right I pull left..... and pulling at slower speeds makes the bike move faster in that direction, on the hwy the centrifugal force on the wheel makes it want to stay straight so pulling equals more pressure on the bars and wheel meaning a faster response time to the action................... DISCLAIMER!!!! this works for me because I have practiced it for a loooooong time, and still do to this day, I wouldn't recommend someone trying this method in an emergency unless it is a natural reaction like it is for me......... pulling on the bars really does make it move fast and may be too fast of a reaction for the untrained and un-practiced :-)

[@SoopaBee]

THANK YOU for sharing this! I've often wondered about pulling because as you say, it is the same principle. I don't know anyone who has honed this method so I really appreciate you sharing. I do think that it would be super responsive on a little bike like a scooter so thanks for putting up the disclaimer too.

[@andypandy.]

yeah, just give it a go when the streets are quiet and you have a bit of room....... just go little to start with. you will see the response is greater :-)

[@AdventuresinRealLife]

Ah, use of the phrase 'Back in the Day', I'm afraid you're now officially an old man. I've noticed that the feel of bumps is very dependent on wheel size. You're right, potholes hurt a lot on scooters with the 14" rims. It's even a noticable difference between the 21" rims on my bike vs the 19" on my sister's. I think the reason is that when a smaller wheel overcomes a 'bump' it does so in a shorter timespan, climbing the same thing requires more wheel rotation with a larger tire, so the impact is less jarring.

[@SoopaBee]

You are right on two fronts! The wheel size really does translate into how well a bike handles the "bumps." And unfortunately, yes, I'm an old man...you know this kid. ;-)

[@SoopaBee]

And these Metros (and I think most Vespas) have 10" rims kid. The bumps are even MORE pronounced!

[@Cyb3rCl3ric]

Amazing video, thanks for the tips.

[@SoopaBee]

Thank you!

[@DesiDeepesh]

Thanks

[@SoopaBee]

Sure thing!

[@RobAshMotoVlogs]

Great explanation mate. Nice one.

[@SoopaBee]

Thank you Brother Ash!

[@TheRealMrCods]

Same thing on my work 110cc Postie Bike

[@SoopaBee]

You've got to use it to avoid everything that you encounter I'm sure!

[@jacobwilhelm7769]

How do you turn on a scooter before you have enough speed to counter steer, like at a roundabout after stopping?

[@SoopaBee]

Personally, I find that you have to be going VERY slow (under 10 mph maybe?) for counter steering to NOT work (i.e., turn right/go right; turn left; go left). Especially with these small wheels. It might even be less than 10 mph. If I were entering a roundabout from a complete stop. I would probably turn right/go right or turn left/go left for merely a couple of seconds. Then counter steering would take over.

[@katsugi183]

Awesome advice 💯👍 like a steering wheel?

[@SoopaBee]

Well, kinda, but not really. You just have to press on the bars and the bike will move in that direction VERY easily. It works on all bikes...it is just extra pronounced on a scooter.

[@SoopaBee]

Well, kinda, but not really. You just have to press on the bars and the bike will move in that direction VERY easily. It works on all bikes...it is just extra pronounced on a scooter.

[@outie555]

countersteering worked on a 50cc scooter i hired on magnetic island :)

[@SoopaBee]

I'm still trying to master it... :-)

[@SpikeyOfficial]

I have yet to ride a scooter but I wouldn't mind haha

[@SoopaBee]

Do it bro! Don't hate!

[@SkeggyCruiser]

It doesn't work on a trike bro, I remember the first time I rode a my old trike and I quickly discovered that there's no such thing as counter steer on it, lol, RSMF.

[@SoopaBee]

I should've make that clear. In fact, DO NOT try to counter steer on a trike! Danger, danger! Thanks for pointing this out Skeggy!

[@CalmBiker]

Anything with two wheels really. My theory is that if you aren't countersteering on your bicycle, you aren't going fast enough ;-)

[@SoopaBee]

Zoom Zoom! You sir would scare me on a bicycle LOL

[@CalmBiker]

Hehe! One of my favourite cycling games is overtaking 50cc scooters :-D

[@Fee.1]

Y u steal visio’s muzac

[@CaptainCrankyMotovlogger]

666 subs... I KNEW IT!!! Pure evil! LOL :) Explaining the unexplainable... typical - actually you did it well.

[@SoopaBee]

Call me Damien. LOLOLOL! Thanks for stopping by man.

[@adeadgirl13]

Have you noticed how you can steer a scooter with your hips?

[@SoopaBee]

Hmmm...don't think I ever noticed that!

[@DANILO220511]

Moto Gymkhana is shifting hips (lower body) forward/backward/sides. They don't use counter steering (rare!). Watching japanese moto gymkhana.

[@johnoleary9317]

I have forward running boards on a yamaha . I tend to push my foot into the board and get a more precise turn. Leaving my hands to concentrate on slight adjustments and throttle. Good video. Not many realise the difference small diameter wheels make to a rider.

[@Adrenalean767]

Counter steering? Man just lean the bike.

[@throughtheeyesofbug8443]

I can see where scooters would be fun. I just don't think they are for me

[@SoopaBee]

Dude! What's wrong with you? All the cool kids are doing it! LOLOLOLOL!

[@throughtheeyesofbug8443]

i tryed to take my endorsmet test on one. mojor fail

[@SooperMoto]

we have a similar name mate ;)