Honestly, as EDM producer trying to turn Film Composer this helps a LOT. Usually I just grab a bassline, have a few notes that I know work, use a simple melody that repeats throughout, and add more stuff. Here it's like "do I start with a bass first to maybe ground myself a bit more, or think of a melody, or would this scene benefit from a character motif? (when I grab some random scenes to practice scoring on)".
@DMIXMusic2 жыл бұрын
You have some of the most helpful videos on KZbin. Thank you!
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear!
@ChristopherSiu2 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to watch your process and work Anne. Thanks for sharing!
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@JoaoVitor-nq1bu2 жыл бұрын
Now this is a lovely crossover! Love your channel, Christopher!
@alvarorodriguezfilmmusic2 жыл бұрын
I loved the video, really insightful! I've got a couple of questions if you don't mind: 1) I've noticed that the automation (mainly cc1 and 11) in this mockup is relatively less detailed than the one in your "Lord Of The Rings" mockups. Is that because you knew this cue was going to be recorded and hence it didn't need that level of detail? was it because of time constraints? 2) When you go from piano sketch to mockup, is it strictly a matter of copy and paste midi notes (plus the whole production side of things of course)? or you add tiny motifs and elements here and there to round up the arrangement? Congrats for your success! Huge thanks for sharing and keep up the good work!💪
@Larsipilami2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing video Anne! So kind of you to share this. This was literally one of the „funnest“ things I have ever done in my life. The writing and the Abbey Road Session with you was an absolute blast!! Thanks again for having me on board 🙌🏻.
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@BF-up5xw2 жыл бұрын
I've just finally caught up with this video. There is so much useful information here about the process in general, and the details of the process you actually went through in this particular case. You explain the points clearly, and explain why you did what you did - and whether you are happy with it or not. Thank you for generosity and hard work. Now, go and get many more gigs so you don't have time for this! (If you want.)
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@AlmaLibreStudios2 жыл бұрын
Removing most of the bottom end of the orchestra during the "jump" sequence accentuated the visuals of the ground being removed from under their feet. Breathtaking and brilliant decision from you. Another great tutorial! Thank you so much!
@arkadiussojka98772 жыл бұрын
2 minutes of music a day, good to hear that. I was already having self-doubts when a music supervisor recently told me about a composer who supposedly composes 15 minutes of music a day. I didn't want to get into a discussion and just thought, sure, probably a 15-minute pedal tone with a four-bar piano loop. Thanks for this video, Anne.
@polkmusic2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your process. This is literally film scoring from a real working film composer. You are such a great teacher.
@AMB6662 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this! Subscribed!
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@anatomicallymodernhuman51752 жыл бұрын
19:58 - yes. Lydian mode. Not only brightest but also tends to have a sense of awakening, which is perfect here.
@MusicalWizardryMarcoIannello2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, as always, Anne-Katrhin, for imparting such knowledge and wisdom. This is absolutely educational, so much to take away, already. I just cannot wait for part 2!
@gabriel_kyne3 ай бұрын
A video on planning, and theme writing would be amazing!!
@bonuebonue2 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!!! When you said "the film is on Netflix" I had to pause the video, an went watching the whole film and then returned after to see the rest of this video :-) I think that your music was really perfect for the film and enhanced a lot the movie that is per se really quite enjoyable and was a pleasure to watch and hear: the contrasts between the emotional and the tension moments of your music are really wonderful and the energy and expressiveness of your themes and scoring are very powerful. After it I enjoined even more your explanation. Thank you very much for this in depth behind the scenes videos: very helpful and inspiring! Also very interesting to see how to create the material and how to use and expand it, and the decisions how to orchestrate the piano sketches!!! Wunderbar!
@peterreynolds81462 жыл бұрын
What a great way to learn how to get your work order from zero to hero. Logical steps and logical thought processes to help the creative mind Express music. Thank you so much for this video as I look forward to the next one.
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
So glad you liked it! Thanks for watching! The next one is already underway. :-)
@leszekkarczewski2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the possibility of an insight. Some of your remarks are really precious e.g. a signature change is better then tempo change or on hiding the signature change at least a bar before a new segment begins. I will follow them.
@Drfresh14022 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Highly, highly, highly inspiring.
@anthonyworthydaretodreammu24512 жыл бұрын
This is so insightful! "I can live with one bar I'm not happy with....." love that! Showing this process is a game changer for an inspiring composer as myself. I can write music for different genres all day long; however, the film music composition process is on a different level on the music production spectrum. Again thank you Anne! Coffee on me also....
@Anomaliayt Жыл бұрын
Amazing deconstruction !!!! And amazing work as usual :)
@gabriel743579 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your time and dedication to show us how a professional like you creates music for movies, your music is beautiful, interesting, exciting, thank you very much again for your generosity, you deserve a looooong of coffees, for now I'll send you a couple hahahahahaha
@Muzisoccer2532 жыл бұрын
Thank you sooo much for these videos ! I figuered out few of these advises by myself through practicing on projects and through questionning my workflow when i got stuck on these projects. That's why it takes many time to get a strong workflow. So THIS serie and your other videos in general are a blessing and it contains so many tips that the gain of time is incredible. Thank you again for sharing this !
@gm55422 жыл бұрын
That was amazing. Thank you for being so helpful and insightful about your creative process.
@WichyBaldwin Жыл бұрын
I identified the damage presets as soon as you played it :P good ol damage
@Reverdoc2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Anne-Kathryn… I really appreciate the way you approach orchestration . I am learning a lot watching you work and I use your expertise to help me become a better musician.
@germainb.2 жыл бұрын
That was great, thanks ! Looking forward to the second part.
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Second part is already in the making and just a few days away. It just takes some time to get all the material cleared by the studios.
@ASMR-MASSAGE2 жыл бұрын
Perfect video..i like this,successful..🥰😘💋♥️
@DepressedCapitalist2 жыл бұрын
Great great stuff! I would really love you to make a video explaining all these pre production things you are talking about (the theme, a counter theme, ostinattos, the sounds you choose and why, how you come up with a melody and develop it, etc) Those "first 10 days" as you put it are very very interesting for me (even more than the rest of the work). Thank you very much Anne for these videos. All the best. Cheers from Argentina.
@michaelneedham31512 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this. 100%.
@KrystofDreamJourney2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelneedham3151 Exactly ! Those first 10 days are where everything happens. The rest is just pure DAW labor, although also important, but… that you can just learn. The first 10 days are what’s the essence of this entire game…
@NikolaiMusicChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your hard earned experience and knowledge with us 😊 I've always thought the 2 - 3 minute if music a day including mockup sounded crazy, as I always use more time than that in scoring scenes for competitions (although that is probably partly because of inexperience). This process with first making themes or a suite to the movie to have the base material and themes already in place to work out from makes me understand how this great workspeed is possible. Also piano sketching makes a lot of sense and is how I scored the last two competitions I did, and it was a lot faster than writing directly to orchestration which I've tried before😊 You always make very clear and concise videos, and so glad you take your time to share with us, thanks!
@kovachito2 жыл бұрын
A real "how to go about film cues" máster class. What else could I say but thank you, Anne. Thank you for sharing this excellent and helpful video. It merges composing music procces, production, scoring, orchestration point of view, etc.. Thank you..!!!
@craigreeves54652 жыл бұрын
I love your channel, Anne. I admire your talent so much! This was amazing, and super educational. I never thought about how film composers were able to work so fast but it really makes sense now.
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Glad this was helpful!
@Serge_Korr_Music Жыл бұрын
Cool music and great orchestration of one. Thanks so much for the overview! Best! Serge.
@heartbreaktimemachine Жыл бұрын
really appreciate this walkthru of your approach! "Meter vs Tempo" is something I struggle with, but you've made it more clear why these choices matter. I'm stunned to see how similarly we use Cubase (this could be driven by workflow) but I wish you'd show the synthrack on the right panel sometimes. THANK YOU!!
@GregLassalle20152 жыл бұрын
Dern.........You have such a gift for teaching. So many great lessons here........ and great music!!!!!!!! (Meter shifts over tempo shifts was an eye-opener for me) I will unashamedly copy many of your work flow techniques and am grateful always to you for sharing. Wish you a great weekend. Going to Netflix now...............got my popcorn. 🙏🏾🌞
@yuggothproductions2 жыл бұрын
This is great! Can’t wait for the next one! I agree that the piano sketch is crucial in these complex cues with full blown orchestra and choir. I’ve learned this the hard way! Haha! Cheers!
@sonicstoryteller2 жыл бұрын
What a stunning composition the amount of work hear is a ton load your ear for counter melody is superb Anne love the brass arrangement very regal fantastic best wishes from UK England Phil 👍great video
@buzzsmith81462 жыл бұрын
You are a very talented lass, Ms. Dern! Thanks for your amazing videos.
@Dragan_Drazic2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Anne-Kathrin for these insights, very educational.
@renaldodavis73722 жыл бұрын
👏👏 Thanks Anne for this insight. You gave me a lot of confirmations with this one! Looking forward to part 2.
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Part 2 is already being edited... :-)
@renaldodavis73722 жыл бұрын
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer NICE! I have my coffee and I'm ready.
@DerlisAGonzalez2 жыл бұрын
Oh, this is SO good, Anne-Kathrin! Thanks for another awesome video. And lol at the reference to people who write 6 minutes a day. I think I know exactly who you're talking about. I used to follow this dude who apparently does 20 films a year. If only we were all so lucky! 😏😂
@enriquepinos2 жыл бұрын
I get so much from these videos! Thank you
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
That's so great to hear!
@CyrilBellem2 жыл бұрын
Here it is! I can't watch it until tonight, but as usual, I know that I will learn a lot :-) Thank you for this amazing channel, so much interesting
@zipperhead101 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Took me about four 'listens' to make my way through this, but it was awesome and thank you for sharing and teaching. You made something that seemed impossible at least a bit more understandable for me.
@AeGeR972 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this! It answered many questions, and a few I hadn't thought of!
@juandipaez47212 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is so helpful. I´m starting scoring videos and to see this very professional level is so inspiring. Love that theme you´ve compose for the soundtrack Thanks, Anne for sharing this with us
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
So happy to hear that!
@DIDCHOI2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!! Very insightful. Happy to see its normal to be exhausted after writing 3-4 minutes of heavy orchestral in 2 days!
@kurttomlinsoncompositions10672 жыл бұрын
damn that was amazing. I love the music cut off when he swallows the fly haha. I have gotten into a bad habit of spotting as I score rather than spotting the whole scene before scoring. Impatience, I guess.
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
I shudder to think of the anxiety I'd have before scoring a scene like this without a sketch! :-)
@cisection2 жыл бұрын
Super gemacht! Macht Spaß, zuzuschauen und deinen Workflow kennenzulernen, sehr inspirierend
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank!
@AndreasDormannMusic2 жыл бұрын
The 800th like is from me ;-) Great and educational video, AK! Interesting to see that your workflow is that similar to mine. Thx for showing this.
@replicant62 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for this! I follow your channel and I’ve gained so much insight and knowledge from all of your videos. This one in particular is a lot of fun and really hit the nail on the head for me. Thumbs up.
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear you find my content helpful!
@petersvan78802 жыл бұрын
What a great and interesting walk trough, thank you Anne-Kathrin!
@billpeet19762 жыл бұрын
What an incredible video and resource for us to see! Thank you so much for sharing; it really helps to demystify the process when you lay it out like this. Suddenly, it all seems more do-able, and less daunting (while still being a ton of work, talent, and skill!).
@hinzebeat2 жыл бұрын
Danke, Anne! Das klingt immer, als wäre die richtige Musik am richtigen Platz. Die "transitions" bilden da übrigens keine Ausnahme. Deine Organisation- es ist die pure Freude, da zuzuschauen. Hav det sjovt!
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Haha, vielen Dank!
@andreysavelev90042 жыл бұрын
Спасибо, Анна! Вы прекрасный профессионал, и красавица.
@davidnevillemusic2 жыл бұрын
I remember when you walked through this at Columbia! So amazing to see your process again! I appreciate this content!!
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I believe there was substantially more swearing involved though 😅
@davidnevillemusic2 жыл бұрын
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer that is entirely possible 😆
@GustavoBorderOUnico2 жыл бұрын
I became you fan. You are so honest with you stuff, other youtubers hide up so much their composing, their libraries and stuff. Congrats. BTW did you played the piano while skeching or did you write the midi by hand? tks for the content.
@SOUNTH11composingdesign2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your work!
@lonzenatorswanagan92432 жыл бұрын
Thank for the insights into your workflow and process. These are immensely helpful in learning how to score my own little creations.
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to hear that! Thanks for watching!
@DMIXMusic2 жыл бұрын
Your template sounds really well mixed. The strings and brass sound a heck of a lot better than they do out of the box. Could you do a video on how you either mix your template, or mix the mockup once it's done?
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Already did, I have a whole template series on my channel. :-)
@DMIXMusic2 жыл бұрын
@Anne-Kathrin Dern Oh jeeze, how did I miss those. Thanks!
@lieciorodriguez3 ай бұрын
I am immensely grateful for your videos! Do you know many composers who use guitar instead of piano for mock ups? I only play guitar and I always feel at a disadvantage in terms of the time I spend reconstructing everything in midi using a pencil.
@pianomanny13972 жыл бұрын
I am new to your channel and wanted to thank you for taking the time to provide such detailed insight into your workflow. I score as a hobby and not my profession but enjoy orchestrating and writing to picture. Looking forward to learning from you! Thanks again! Would love to send you coffee!!
@edelcorrallira2 жыл бұрын
Wowowow this is soooooo cool 😎 I think honestly, this video is even more intense than the action scene. Really the possibilities are limitless. My DAW says it wants to play hehe
@xiaoyun4402 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual! Thanks for sharing such a detailed walkthrough of your working process! I'm learning a lot from your videos😄
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Thanks for watching!
@ethangloverfilmmusic14112 жыл бұрын
This is really helpful, and it sounds super good :) great job!
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thank you!
@nataliem44342 жыл бұрын
This is truly priceless education, thank you so much!!
@EmaTosc2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I just discovered your channel. This video is like gold for me, I am currently enrolled in a film scoring class! You are so good and clear on explaining, love your work!
@acma-prod2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very interesting video ! It's a great pleasure to follow your explanations. 🥰
@ideassharing Жыл бұрын
Wonderful music
@pjdahmen2 жыл бұрын
I am thankful for this Great tutorial
@zvenx2 жыл бұрын
Once again, thank you so much for doing this/these.....I learn so much from you...
@jloiben122 жыл бұрын
This kind of goes towards your “writing speed and pre-production” section of this video. It would be really cool if you could do a series of videos walking through the entire film music composing process. I know this is unlikely to happen in greta detail based on how time intensive you said the pre-production process is and how “relatively” little music gets written in a day but it would be really helpful if you can show as much of the full process as you reasonably can. But anyways, this type of content is much appreciated
@jloiben122 жыл бұрын
And getting the resources to do that would take a lot so I get I am probably asking for the moon
@dhudson00012 жыл бұрын
This video is so instructive and helpful to understanding your processes. Thank you!
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear that!
@CBPM_2 жыл бұрын
I love the 'jump' at 1:58
@MichaelBogaMusic2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as usual Anne, cheers!
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TomLaPointe Жыл бұрын
This is AWESOME
@Unelith2 жыл бұрын
"I kinda hate this transition here" The story of my every track
@wisemank99042 жыл бұрын
I admire your talent !✨ Thank you for sharing a great work.
@winstondsouza422 жыл бұрын
great learning ,thanks for this :) Love from India
@AynenMakino2 жыл бұрын
When you show us the material in piano-form, it really boggles my mind. I mean, so much of why I compose what I compose has to do with the shape of the sound along with the shape of the composition, so when one of those 'shapes' is missing it completely changes the nature of whatever 'shape' is left. So when explaining why you composed what you composed, should the choice of orchestration really be absent?
@LightsandMotion2 жыл бұрын
really enjoyed this! nice cue too!
@curtjacobs85202 жыл бұрын
This is awesome!!
@achillesamusic2 жыл бұрын
Watched this the other day, loved your theme! 👏
@paoloagostini14072 жыл бұрын
Bravissima Anne...Big Hug
@yvanroustan44262 жыл бұрын
amazing video Anne, very helpful - thank you !!
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@sytnikakim2 жыл бұрын
Please please please make a video about scoring a material itself, i'm really struggling with organisation of this process, what to do first what to do last, how to store the material correctly to use it on next steps, you know)
@daniel.vega.composer2 жыл бұрын
I recently subscribed and I’m loving your content!
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Welcome aboard!
@lucaslauriano43572 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@chrishurn70972 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Just found your channel and I love the advice and in depth discussions you have here.
@tenderklang2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Vielen Dank.
@VivekTheMesmerizer2 жыл бұрын
Great work , waiting for next parts of this series ☺️👌
@Drfresh14022 жыл бұрын
Ok I score audiobooks. And this is extremely helpful for that also. Audiobook scoring is not as complex. You don’t want to get in the way of the message.
@borisbruchhaus39912 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, @Anne-Kathrin. Very inspiring. Are you planning to also do a video about how you typically approach / structure a suite that contains your themes? - in case you follow some rules there (length of themes, contrast etc.) .. would fit into this series (as a kind of prequel :) )
@musical_lolu48112 жыл бұрын
Oh this series is gonna be good!
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
I sure hope so!
@oumkaarrs54332 жыл бұрын
Wow that's great stuff Anne ! Thank You so much !
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@oumkaarrs54332 жыл бұрын
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer I would like to know how many days it took you to produce such a fab score on your PC ( whole film score not including recording sessions. )
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
We had about 30 days to write. However, a lot of time is also lost with preparing the recording sessions, printing stems, preparing files for the orchestrators, proof reading the scores etc. - then we had one more week for recording and mixing.
@grobinson93522 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@marcusc.nordin56242 жыл бұрын
What an amazing composer!
@davidsinclair6992 жыл бұрын
Thanks Anne. Very useful and insightful.
@RustyCurtainsSound2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you !
@patrickkabugi48282 жыл бұрын
Very insightful video. Thank you!
@AnneKathrinDernComposer2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Nexun82 жыл бұрын
I actually think that the tempo-change doesnt feel like a "temp-solution", but rather more like a really great transition :)