Score Editor - A new scoring era | New Features in Cubase 14

[@ettiennelane9173]

This is the major new addition. Being able to create proper notation within a DAW.

[@ettiennelane9173]

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[@clarenceoveur9497]

Just wait till you realize they removed the most important features of the OG editor, just so you have a stripped down version of Dorico inside Cubase. If you write for the orchestra, this will be a downgrade. If you do basic notation, yeah, I guess it can work.

[@jdsd_]

@@clarenceoveur9497 Will you enlighten us with information about the “most important features” they removed?

[@martmakesmusic]

If you write for orchestra you would be using dorico and not the old cubase editor anyways. Having the new editor and dorico be able to comunicate seemlessly is perfect

[@ettiennelane9173]

@@martmakesmusic You are correct. I was creating some notation for a 5 piece yesterday and eventually (out of pure frustration) I exported (from Cubase) to a Dorico project just to add the final details. Adding dynamic markers and hair pins are painfully slow inside Cubase. Also, no rehearsal markers inside Cubase. Editing notes are easier in Cubase, well at least the way I do it. Thought I could stay in Cubase for everything, but it's okay to move over to Dorico during a project.

[@evrenhalavut9207]

For me, just this feature is enough to upgrade. Thank you!

[@ArturoAlbero]

This feature is awesome and I have bought Cubase 14 right away. I wish you could insert notes like in Dorico, which is really fast, in order to create a rudimentary MIDI score. Like a much better version of the step input, adapted to regular keyboards. It's the next step. And the transfering from Cubase to Dorico is awesome, I'm looking forward for Dorico to do the same thing (as my workflow is more Dorico To Cubase than Cubase to Dorico). I wish I could use both programs at the same time, talking together. Great video and greater display 🤣

[@rolandgerard6064]

For me this only was a reason to update, wow…so great. This update is amazing.

[@KMPSA]

I’m on Cubase 12 pro. This score editor update is what will make me upgrade.

[@juanopenx]

Wait, you don't get lifetime upgrades?

[@juanopenx]

Well I see they seem to have fair pricing, it still looks like a worthwhile investment to me with this score editor. This has been my pain point with my current DAW for years, and they don't seem to have any plans on developing one. Cubase will be my new year's gift to myself.

[@JeromeFe]

This is a huge step. 🎉 I was waiting for this feature for decades. Kudos Dorico Team for taking notation scores to the top level. ❤🎉

[@LazTLaz]

Dom, I upgraded on the strength of this video. The new score editor is brilliant! It's already produced beautiful parts for some brass players I have coming in, and the interface is so intuitive. I know the team must have had some difficult decisions to take when designing this, potentially disappointing gurus of the old editor. All I can say is that it's perfect for this user, and so easy to use!

[@marcelcouture5373]

The Phrasing !!! That is what I wished for since Steinberg published Dorico. That’s it, I’m upgrading from Pro 13

[@zolhof]

I swear, every time, Dom's screen seems to grow a bit more! At this rate, his monitor will be movie-theater size by the next update! 😂 But seriously, this is such a welcome revamp of the score editor. The original was already incredibly deep and robust, and this update looks like a solid step in the right direction. Fingers crossed that features like hide and auto-layout are still there, and improved. Can't wait to give it a try!

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

@@zolhof no hide yet, but it's on our list. The layout uses Dorico's layout engine

[@zolhof]

@@PaulWalmsley_whams I'm relieved to hear that hide is still on the list, it's truly the feature that made Cubase's score editor unique and powerful. It lets me create complex mockups while keeping the score clean by hiding all the extra MIDI data. Combining that with grouping, display quantize, layers, and now Dorico's smart layout engine would be the ultimate solution for DAW scoring. If you're looking for testers, I'd be more than happy to help. Cubase’s score editor remains a core part of my workflow.

[@fumziemusic]

That display is actually fake bro. It's made bigger as a digital effect in that camera view, you can see his actual monitor from the other camera angles (it's not that big and more far away from his eyes)

[@haroldf3385]

Can't wait for a full detailed tutorial on how to use this thing! 😅

[@IniresMirrors]

This is something I've been waiting for for a long time. I've made scores in Dorico and imported to Cubase so that I could make a mockup for a client with Eastwest samples, and I've made orchestral arrangements in Cubase, importing the XML or MIDI to Dorico so I could make scores from them. Both ways of doing it were varying degrees of nightmarish and time consuming, so this alone is pretty exciting (the other new features look awesome, too, though).

[@rp3316]

Really awesome, the integrarion between the DAW and the "music sheet" will help to improve work speed... I use Reaper and MuseScore.. and watching these features I am thinking give a try on Cubase

[@NarendraKumarJ]

Lovely! Just what was needed 👌

[@santiagovalenciamusic]

Finally!! I’ve been waiting for this since Cubase 9.5. Whoohooo!!🎉 so exciting. 😃

[@alleyway3215]

Wow. Just wow. I didn't think Cubase would integrate a Dorico-engine score editor so soon. Dom, may I ask - what size is that screen? (because I'm lovin' it:)

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

It's CGI 🙂

[@qtx7]

Our prayers have been answered!

[@thomasgyllin9502]

Wow, I've been waiting for this!! I will never leave Cubase now :-)

[@TYLERBALLADS]

I own Protools and studio one…. This is probably better than the other daws editor…looks awesome!

[@rgferreira78]

This might be game changing and that's a reason for me (amateur composer for fun, with a classical education) to switch from Reaper.

[@FreddyMcLennon]

I'm just wondering how to get the dynamics to work that I write in the score editor. That would be very helpfull. Or do I have to write the dynamics in the Score Editor, and then have to play in, or draw in the Dynamics in the midi editor?

[@colineastwood1357]

H Dom. Are you sure you have a big enough screen there? !!😱 I'm only kidding. It looks marvellous. I am curious as to what size it is and any technical hurdles required to be overcome in order to drive such a magnificent beast.

[@kristianborisov5928]

Great new feature! To what extent this doubles Dorico in Cubase, and which important features would still make a person use Dorico on top of Cubase 14?

[@timleiser9899]

There are so much features in Dorico, that are not in Cubase. I don´t even know where to start. Maybe the Engrave-Mode in Dorico? The Popover-Workflow? The very different Expression-Maps? Condensing? Creating Worksheets. But if you only want to print some Notes... Cubase might be enough.

[@jonathanwingmusic]

As someone who composes 95% in Dorico and thinking about writing in terms of score / vertical harmony, my larger concern would be more about writing inside of the score and seeing all my parts as they relate (i.e., view all my strings as I would in Dorico). I really can't deal with piano rolls because I just have always found it hard and opaque to read music that way. Anyway, hoping this will be at least decent for writing/input, since I am not really concerned about part preparation for live players (which I would do in Dorico anyway).

[@peterleese2040]

Thanks Paul that seals it for me!

[@vladonie]

Great video Dom as always! But honestly, the most important tool that was in previous versions is missing here, which is CLEAN NOTE OVERLAPS and some others. You showed all that nicely, but what about when I play long notes on the keyboard, for example in the bass... those long notes should sound like long notes, but rhythmically they should be written, for example, as 1/8 notes, but however they are written as notes connected by a ligature (because of the longer duration (overlap). The problem is in reading, because the person who reads such notes cannot judge which notes are rhythmic, which is a big problem. When you play a prelude in 1/16, the notes are written as 1/16 and that's how it should be, but since the notes overlap in the live performance, Score Editor writes them as Overlap and that's a problem. if that QD works so well? Apparently it doesn't work well or we don't know where it can be adjusted. In any case, the old options are missing, one of which is called CLEAN NOTE OVERLAPS!!! Please make a tutorial how to solve that problem. I was planning on getting Dorico, but if this is an example of how Dorico works, there's no way I'll ever use it. This is a total anti-advertisement for Dorico! One of the reasons why I updated to cubase 14 pro is your video, but in reality it doesn't work so obviously, I'm personally very disappointed. If I'm missing something, tell me what, because this still doesn't work properly. The possibility of adjustment for each line is missing Page Setup - Interpretation options - Consolidate Rests, clean lengths, no overlap, Shuffle....without this, the notation is still illegible and incomprehensible even for academic musicians

[@oliverostermann2612]

Is it possible in step input to do it like in Dorico? I work with the numbers block for the note length and the midi keyboard for the rest.

[@Tommy_NN]

When entering lyrics in the score editor of Cubase 14, the lyrics do not reflect in the MIDI note’s note expression. In previous versions, such as Cubase 13, the lyrics were reflected. Is there a way to resolve this issue? This functionality is essential when using a vocal synthesizer.

[@FilmCompos3r]

Had display quantize in the old score editor! Hoping the new implementation is just as comprehensive...though there are obviously some huge features here, especially those auto slurs and staccatos. Wow.

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

The goal is that most of the time you won't need to use display quantize at all.

[@FilmCompos3r]

@ yes but when dealing with automated systems like this it’s always the exceptions that are hardest to handle, and depending on how hard it is may determine whether the new system is an upgrade or a downgrade for me.

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

@@FilmCompos3r Display Quantize is still available to apply local corrections if required.

[@euphonicSounds]

Yes, a great new feature! Thank you for this video! When I have two separated tracks in cubase representing left hand and right hand recording, the score editor generates two instruments with "each a bass and melody track". How can I assign both tracks to a shared system? Left hand track to bass...right hand to melody track? Does anyone know what I mean? 😅

[@Pax30001]

Awesome!

[@randomolly9374]

How do i turn my sheet music into tablature?

[@stevemartinalmonds]

This looks just great!

[@JuanAMatos-zx4ub]

Really nice! Please add a feature to export it into Dorico for final tweaking.

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

It's already there!

[@PetrPotterMachane]

Is there a way of changing notation font? Like in sibelius? For example jazzy style looking notes? Thx

[@israelcanova]

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[@haroldf3385]

I feel like I'm gonna have to start from scratch lol. I input notes with a mouse 99% of the time and all the previous versions worked well for that. This... gonna need piano lessons lol

[@bmusician08]

Can it base save a .dorico file to be open inside dorico?

[@hilbertshotel]

Will it process/notate guitar tabs with a DI recording?

[@lostinlymbo13]

I haven't tried yet but I know previous versions have a tab option and you can do audio to midi by various means so this is how I will try it first. :)

[@salehahmadvand2791]

I'd so appreciate it if you answer my question,after years I just updated Cubase from 11.0.40 to Cubase 14,in the score editor there was a feature called note editing overlay but now I can't find it in 14 version,is there still this option in 14?where can I find it?thank you

[@dylscore]

Dorico user here. I really want to get into Cubase, but I am very much a notation-based composer. I love looking at the score, the MIDI view is just a little overwhelming and i can’t interpret my music the same. However, I feel limited by Dorico in terms of VSTs, synths, and overall production which i am really interested in. Will Cubase support a score editor that allows note by note input like Dorico? I’m no pianist, and would love the ability to individually enter notes and see the score rather than real time production. Great to see this feature being added though, really awesome stuff!

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

The Cubase score editor is more focussed on creating great notation from MIDI. It is possible to create scores from the score editor, but if that is your main method of input then it's going to be a lot slower than doing it in Dorico, which is optimised for that task.

[@dylscore]

@ I see, thank you for your reply! You briefly replied to a comment below mentioning .dorico files to Cubase. Is that workflow you feel is possible and could be coming to Cubase in the relatively near future? I am going to begin learning Cubase either way, but a workflow like that would really help me bridge the gap between music composition and production.

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

@@dylscore Going from Dorico to Cubase isn't something you'll see soon -- we want to come up with a workflow that lets you work effectively between projects in Cubase and Dorico. We don't know how that's going to look yet.

[@jakevoutilainen3455]

What about the guitar string bending notation and playback?

[@שוליקורן-ו8כ]

I still can't find where they put the button that was in Cubbs 13 under Review. The button was at the top of the row and now it is gone. It's a button that when you clicked on it the chord symbols appeared. I can't find it in Cubis 14

[@שוליקורן-ו8כ]

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[@שוליקורן-ו8כ]

How can you add the chords simble at the top

[@nikosnikos1137]

what screen do you have now ?

[@playscroller]

What MIDI keyboard are you using Dom? Great demo by the way!

[@MusicChannel-rf5zz]

Any way it could read scores from a sheet?

[@ri6thechameleon]

Is it possible to import some score( from exemple classic music)and then get it in midi files directly as well?

[@TYLERBALLADS]

HELLO. I DID WHAT YOU SAID. I LAID DOWN A PIANO TRACK AND CLICKED SCORE AND IT DID NOTHING EXCEPT BRING ME TO ITS DARK SCREEN. HOW DO I IMPORT THE TRACK AS NOTATION? THANKS FOR YOUR GREAT VIDEO. I ALSO DID A MIDI TRACK AND CAN'T HEAR THE THE SCORE

[@Justin_the_Analog_IC_architect]

Can you import from and export to Dorico?

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

You can export a native Dorico project. It's not currently possible to import from Dorico -- we're thinking about the best way to handle that workflow in the future.

[@dirk.claassen]

Hi Dom. As a composer I’m excited about the integration with Dorico technology with the new Cubase score editor. However, I really hoped that the Expression Maps would have received an update. Why no negative track delay offset per articulation for the expression maps? It is possible in Dorico. That is what I’ve been hoping for since the past few updates and every time it gets overlooked… It seems so unnecessary to either have multiple tracks for each articulation per instrument (with negative track delay) or have the expression maps with one track, but not have notes on the grid because they all have different sonic starting points… If it isn’t in the grid from the start then even with the new quantise feature for the score it is still a lot of unnecessary tweaking. Plus having separate tracks per instrument makes using the score editor much more difficult. There should be a way to streamline this. I really hope Steinberg is listening. I know I’m not the only composer asking for this feature for many years now. Please.

[@intooscar]

is this feature the same as pro on artist version?

[@darrencook7168]

What about the tablature editor? It it gone now?

[@DanielSpreadbury]

Tablature will make its return in a future update.

[@randomolly9374]

Nooooo​@@DanielSpreadbury

[@ishagshafeeg]

Much awaited feature I was waiting for. Thank you

[@VILIP312]

lt is possible to be exported as PDF?

[@peterleese2040]

Will I be able to export the Cubase score editor to Dorico to add any teeks like lyrics, chords etc?

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

You can add lyrics and chords inside Cubase *and* export to Dorico...

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

Awesome & Thanks :)

[@TheBardsCorner]

What is THAT display?! I want it! 😀

[@timleiser9899]

It's not the display. When you look at the Desk in the beginning of the Video, you see no Screen. It´s rendered in there for people to see what is on the screen.

[@PedroMiguel-if3ll]

But shouldn't the green cursor follow the notes of the score? In your examples the play cursor just jumps on each beat

[@ProjectVastness]

One think that for me is weird e just now Cubase having this. In studio one it already existed in some form. But I use both daws, so it's welcome.

[@DavidMacDonald]

Cubase had a score editor for a decade or so before Studio One ever existed. This new score editor replaces the old one.

[@contrabraham]

Wow this is great! Is this available in Elements 14?

[@DanielSpreadbury]

Yes!

[@DominicKumar06]

can dorico files or the midi files can be imported directly into the cubase score editor in cubase 14 ?

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

MIDI files can be imported directly

[@sanctipaprichio]

amazing! any chance for dark mode in scores? ;)

[@synthplayer1563]

Thanks for the video. Display quantization and layouts are nothing new. I'm interested but what are the really new features? For example, functions that are missing: Changing the number of staffs within the score. Displaying bends from the MIDI data and displaying the target note of the bend. ...

[@TheRealWinsletFan]

Does it have the Dorico popover workflow? Can you export to a Dorico file?

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

It doesn't have popovers currently, apart from for text and lyrics. You can export a Dorico file directly.

[@TheRealWinsletFan]

@@PaulWalmsley_whams Thanks! The export will be a godsend.

[@FujiFujimoto]

Great news, thank you!

[@kampmaniak4698]

And importing a file from Dorico?

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

@@kampmaniak4698 Not yet -- we're thinking about the best way of handling this workflow.

[@johnenriquemenesesrizo4497]

🤯🤯🤯

[@JMCV2]

what about guitar tab ?

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

Not in this version yet.

[@sanctipaprichio]

@@PaulWalmsley_whams "yet", thank you so much, you just convinced me to update!

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

@@sanctipaprichio great! Well download the trial and see how it works for you

[@Jim-mw7ro]

Its amazing❤❤❤❤❤😂

[@smilecome1]

Steibeg has moved dorico into Cubase.

[@musicat78]

I have the latest version of Cubase 13 installed and it is infinitely better than Cubase 14! especially in performance.

[@juanopenx]

This score editor will be the sole reason for abandoning FL Studio, I am tired of waiting for them to get music scoring right. I loved this feature in Sonar, but migrated to exclusively using FL Studio because the workflow felt so much more intuitive, but now seeing this video, I am going to set some money aside to get Cubase. I still love my FL Studio, but I need score editor, with lyrics on staff everything. I will review other videos first, to see how you add lyrics...

[@stephenyeboah7430]

no stem seperation in cubase 14

[@Todzuum]

Lol I didn’t realize that monitor was so big or TV I should say

[@citygent101]

I was hoping for an ai powered automatic logical editor with just text promps, the current logical editor is very confusing.

[@Privatmensch]

MusicXML can not be import. Dorico MusicXML can not be import.

[@curtrod]

you need a bigger monitor!

[@synthplayer1563]

I have been a Score Editor user for decades. Mainly for lead sheets with chord symbols and small piano arrangements. I tested the new Score Editor for this application. In my opinion, it has become much worse, as some things no longer work in the new version: No manual entry of chord symbols in the music sheet. That is an absolute no-go for a lead sheet. No Hide Function. Also a no-go. No possibility to move elements manually. Also a no-go. No possibility to set the playback position in score. No-go. Wow, these four things alone are indispensable. Come on, Steinberg, this can't be true. No easy setting of the polyphonic display of a track (single, polyphonic, split with split point) instead inflexible instruments. I don't understand why, for example, it is not possible to set even a single staff for a piano instrument. Can you create self-defined instruments? An octave key does not adjust the notes. That was very handy. Swing eighth notes/triplets are sometimes displayed incorrectly. Swing eighth notes cannot be displayed as normal eighth notes (old shuffle setting). No Real Book setting. MIDI bending is still not shown in the note display. This is very disappointing. But it could be that I didn't find it where some things can be adjusted.

[@StefanFuhrmann1]

if you comment on the Steinberg Forum, we can have a conversation about all this. Set playback position with L key on selected events. Polyphonic display can be influenced in Instrument settings. But indeed, no hide function currently.

[@synthplayer1563]

@@StefanFuhrmann1 No problem, I posted my comments in the Steinberg forum.

[@שוליקורן-ו8כ]

How can you add the chord simble at the top ? In cubase 13 there was an option

[@LearnCompositionOnline]

They take years to imitate logic 😂

[@BrevSullivan]

No guitar tab or advanced tool that assists heavy guitar scoring. Cool update but leaving that feature out... deal breaker

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

We're still working on guitar tab for a future update

[@johntwigg7650]

@@PaulWalmsley_whams 2024 v14 and you’re saying this? Steinberg should be ashamed

[@PaulWalmsley_whams]

@@johntwigg7650 The score editor has been completely rewritten for this version, using the Dorico engine. It's going to take us time to fill in all the gaps. We're currently working on guitar tab which should hopefully be available soon.

[@johntwigg7650]

@@PaulWalmsley_whams guitar tab, guitar chord diagrams, showing proper chord finger diagrams with inversions and proper guitar fingering , not just generic best guesses, proper chord construction and specific fingering like Guitar Toolkit or Reverse Chord apps that properly give chord names etc?

[@LearnCompositionOnline]

Logic pro

[@GeorgesGondard]

Sorry to say but the glissando ( portamento )still look dreadful …