Scorpion vs Sharpshooter - Sting vs Bret Hart in WCW

[@razorsedge3107]

Either one was slapped onto my siblings in the 90’s

[@ecgf]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rekmadethebeat]

HELL YEAH and the figure four

[@RichSmithson]

My friends older brother sat down hard on me when he put me in a Boston crab. Never let anyone put me in one of those holds again. Felt like my back was on the verge of snapping.

[@lucaspless8599]

@@RichSmithson I always loved how the announcers claimed these holds hurt the legs. I have three brothers (two older and one younger) and we practiced every hold imaginable on each other. The crab and death lock destroy the back fiercely . I had a friend that thought it was all b.s. I told him if he could last 10 seconds in my scorpion death lock I'd give him 20 bucks (Late 90's and I was 15ish). I took it easy on him for about 5 seconds. He wheezed in pain, but wouldn't give. He even gloated that it didn't really hurt. Then I raised that scorpion tail and dropped it in nice and deep. He cried like a little beech and never sniffed that 10 seconds. I laughed hard just typing that. Good memories. And yeah, Bret's was better.

[@Gunners_Mate_Guns]

I've been in the Boston Crab and handed it out on three occasions. I've personally seen the Scorpion Death Lock given to a guy out of genuine anger by a another guy. Anyone who thinks these two holds are B.S. has no idea what he's talking about. If applied properly, they are incredibly effective submission holds.

[@yeomsta]

Your channel has went from being something I watch on the fringe to one that I actively look for new videos for. Your stuff is so good. Thanks!

[@wrightyy]

Get them in whilst you can! There won't be many highlights of the current product in 20 years time!!!

[@kajenbop]

Enter AEW!

[@Sunshine215clfh]

Jesus saves 🙂

[@dr.loomis4221]

@@kajenbop nah...AEW is WCW all over again

[@soysaucefool]

@@wrightyy every generation thinks that, what matters to you. Isn't the same as what stuff means to the younger fans

[@thewaker34]

Wrestling was so great in the 90's

[@BC-bf2eq]

Yah and today its a fuckin joke.

[@glamgal7106]

Yes, wrestling was the BOMB in the 1990s. Because I lived in a NYC suburb(still do), it was a RITUAL for my friends and I to go to Madison Square Garden, Nassau Coliseum and the Meadowlands for "house shows." The wrestlers gave the fans "that little something extra" that made them WANT to return--they made efforts to acknowledge them. Bret said that "you never forget your fans. They are the ones who put food on your table and pay your bills." He always had/has a warm smile when he saw/sees me.

[@glamgal7106]

@@BC-bf2eq I agree with you that wrestling has become a joke--that was even before the pandemic. What's not a joke is that wrestlers have tested positive for COVID and whoever does temp checks only does it weekly, not more often than that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong--wrestling is a CONTACT sport. If distancing is needed to avoid getting sick, at the very least there should be more temp checks. Another joke is the "wellness policy" amid all this happening.

[@zemox2534]

@@glamgal7106 Not all wrestling is a joke. If you were all mire open minded you would see there are still plenty of good wrestling promotions in the world right now. ROH, MLW, PROGRESS, WXW, OTT WRESTLING, PRO WRESTLING NOAH, STARDOM, DRAGON GATE AND AJPW.

[@PreacherTHC]

The 90's were so great in wrestling!😉🤪

[@Gorgutsforcongress]

I used to love pitting them against each other in wcw revenge in the N64....oh those were the days.

[@richg1677]

What a fantastic game that was 🙌🏻

[@edge803]

I had that game . Good old days but you could only have 4 people in the ring at the same .

[@cHrIs84.]

Imagine wcw/nWo revenge would get an updated remastered version 🤩 or wwf no mercy

[@sonicthehedgehog5360]

@@richg1677 that game was legendary I hella played it as a kid

[@CraigKostelecky]

@@cHrIs84. There are some awesome hacks out there for N64 emulators on PC.

[@WarhawkBeyond2040]

Two of the biggest and most respected wrestling legends of the 90s, it doesn't get any better than Bret Hart and Sting

[@Marc_Masters]

This duel should have lit the wrestling world on fire, Im not sure why it didnt smash!

[@antology7]

@@Marc_Masters WCW didn't make it a ppv main event. Sting should have beaten Hogan clean at Starrcade, then Bret should have challenged him for the belt.

[@wrestlingtapes2036]

You’re right brother

[@antology7]

@Jonathan McCully This match has more passion to it (in my opinion): www.dailymotion.com/video/x2k1ob2 Sting is heel at the time. This is after Sting had several months break after Halloween Havoc.

[@alvintiangco351]

Yeah

[@animefan9329]

Sting didn't have to apply much pressure when he used the scorpion deathlock. He had the strength and size to make it look painful. I remember Ron garvin using the hold earlier than sting, but to me it was sting that popularized the hold from 1987 to 1991. During this time Bret was a tag team wrestler never used the hold until mid 1991. He did it with the left leg. Look like he was hurt people for real. But sting was my favorite so I was pissed. To me sting's application looks more natural and easy to do. Bret technique is excellent but a little too technical. Sting use to apply it with one hand. That to me look more impressive. The stinger is the greatest of all time.

[@michaelbobic7135]

You're right, I'd completely forgotten that Ronnie Garvin had used the scorpion.

[@Lionel212001]

I remember Bret's matches vividly as a kid growing up in the 90s. He was my favorite wrestler back then because his matches seemed so real. He added a certain degree of legitimacy to pro wrestling and told a story like no other. In-ring, I think that only Benoit surpassed him (despite how things ended). There will never be another.

[@kingoftheswing38]

The sharp shooter is incomparable to any hold. He excecuted it excellently lol

[@aidsskrillex5355]

Excellently executed!

[@georgemunro319]

One is a great wrestler. The other is a great performer and entertainer

[@CraftyVegetarian13]

@@aidsskrillex5355 seems like a Bill and Ted air guitar riff is appropriate after saying this...

[@kingoftheswing38]

@@CraftyVegetarian13 Most Definitely lol

[@jamescourt5201]

Scorpion deathlock existed long before Bret Hart stole it. He was performing a piledriver than counting 1, 2, all the fingers he had.

[@NitroNEXT]

The matches weren't great but I get the mentality behind it; gotta protect both players. It's not ideal but atleast WCW didn't bury Bret for being a "WWF guy", the same courtesy wouldn't have been given to Sting if the matches took place in WWF. Bret would have gone over clean every time if Vince had any say in it.

[@wrestlingtapes2036]

The matches are underrated

[@Thor-Orion]

@@wrestlingtapes2036 Bret’s actual matches from WCW can be pretty great. It’s his booking that blows for the most part.

[@baronvg]

I believe it.

[@MrBlack-wt5er]

They actually slightly did bury Bret Hart and then tried to resurrect him and THEN used him poorly when they got him involved and actually has him completing against real heavyweights on his level rather than a bunch of mid - card wrestlers and he had to cheat half those wins or he would lose some of them and the whole booking thing was just stupid and it was probably (Nash) so I guess Nash can thank himself for contributing to the downfall of the wcw which paid him far more money than wwf

[@EVGriffinJr]

Sting, in his early days, could make the scorpion look painful. As the years went on, it just looked weaker. Bret Hart, on the other hand, his version always looks painful! Even the times he put it on post the stroke he suffered!

[@CraigKostelecky]

The move on the post was much more of a figure-four and I believe that’s what they were calling it too.

[@Nolimitss6]

@@CraigKostelecky you've misunderstood him. He wasn't referring to performing the move around a post

[@CraigKostelecky]

Thanks for the clarification. After reading it again, I don’t know how I misread it the first time.

[@EVGriffinJr]

@@CraigKostelecky I was referring to the years after Bret Harte suffered his stroke in 2002. He will occasionally still put people in the sharpshooter and it still looks more painful than anything Sting did.

[@coachmikesfilmroom3111]

@@EVGriffinJr I agree to a point. It depended on who Sting was wrestling. If he was wrestling a younger wrestler later in his career, he'd sink it in deep. If he wrestled an older vet like a flair or hogan and such, he'd not sit out near as much, taking it easier on their damaged bodies.

[@CornyClaudyMedia]

What kept Bret and Sting from having the 5-star "dream match" they should have had are the same factors that prevented countless WCW matches and angles from being great and/or making a lick of sense: clueless booking, incompetent match/feud build-ups, the nWo, unclean/screw-job/run-in/"Dusty" finishes, and egomaniacs "playing politics" backstage.

[@jamessteel9016]

Bret Hart v Sting should of been a classic match, but like most things WCW did it sucked

[@squarepickle]

Still better than 90% of WWE's content since 2006.

[@miaorange]

@Seth Kaplan It's ironic you say that because years later, sting goes to wwe and they don't know how to use him.

[@gst013]

Should have, even...

[@PS-gr5wh]

Yes like 83 weeks in a row?

[@Makainternational]

Of course it’s Bret, Monsoon didn’t call Bret the excellence of execution for nothing.

[@kevinmichael503]

Damn right !

[@CornyClaudyMedia]

Bingo!

[@at0micwerew0lf]

Brett is t the only wrestler Monsoon called "the excellence of execution".

[@CornyClaudyMedia]

@@at0micwerew0lf Indeed. Gorilla came up with the nickname and used it every time he called one of Bret's matches. Monsoon put him over like no one else ever did, yet I have never heard Bret acknowledge that, strangely.

[@yoholmes273]

You realize of course, that phrase was one of the many "Gorillaisms" used all the time before Bret even went to WWF. He used the terms such as excellently executed and unstoppable force vs the immoveable object virtually all the time. Certainly before they become famous for what they are known for now.

[@Gotti17]

WCW wasted the talent of Bret Hart ...

[@PlatinumRoseLady]

You said it.

[@andrewmoore7927]

Due to Hogan's massive ego and his 100% creative control

[@upgrayedd3129]

@@andrewmoore7927 "that's not gonna work for me brother"

[@andrewmoore7927]

@@upgrayedd3129 Here's the outcome of the match that will make sense to me brother

[@Gotti17]

So true Hogan didn't put him over in 93. As if he was gonna, Once Bret got to WCW.

[@DJDoubleCee]

I enjoyed seeing both holds but I like Bret Hart’s sharpshooter better.

[@Azriel1932]

By far. Sting's application just isn't as convincing to me. Also, to me, it just never matched his character or the rest of his moveset. I guess it makes sense for his feud with Flair but besides that idk, just always seemed weird to me.

[@ahousecatnamedmr.jenkins1052]

What about Shawn Michaels sharpshooter? It's a career ender in the WWF 😁😁😁

[@Azriel1932]

@Phenomenal Ace true

[@BlueLighteningGojo]

Brets looked like it was more painful.

[@ClassicKrusty]

Yea while I love Sting Bret’s sharpshooter looked like he was better at sinching it up, tighter application in other words.

[@kingragnar8023]

Sting took time off after halloween havoc to get his life together and that's when he became born again christian sting

[@silviamarquesfankanal1463]

should have been Surfer Sting again then

[@jordandupe398]

PiLL Addiction?

[@kingragnar8023]

@@jordandupe398 yes and going through a divorce bc his wife found of he was cheating. He was at complete rock bottom. But he turned it around and is a miracle

[@bugsyproductions3140]

Sky daddy sting

[@Vaga-Bard]

@@bugsyproductions3140 you idiot, God isn't in the sky. He's inside man. What are you talking about.?

[@nathanwagner9895]

sting and bret hart in their prime when they were babyfaces, were beyond just ''clean cut'' they were the definition of WHITE MEAT BABY FACE lol

[@enmija]

Bret and Sting in 1992-93 were almost invincible.. both basically had less than 5 loses at that time, and those loses weren't clean. The only "clean" loses they had were Bret to the British Bulldog and Sting maybe to Vader

[@aaronlusanko6356]

@@enmija *losses.

[@wrestlingtapes2036]

Goats

[@liamschulzrules]

My god Id forgotten how long and luscious Sting's hair used to be.

[@SwaggaLeo]

Bret did his unique always with his left leg and more snug looking.

[@burntvirtue]

That's right. If it's not the left leg, it's not a Sharpshooter.

[@Coyote-wm5op]

It always looks better and tighter if you’re short

[@gollick]

I prefer sting overall, but his scorpion was often sloppy

[@Bright_Ghost-308]

But the name scorpion death lock suit sting better because the opponent look like a shape of a scorpion.

[@heinrichthomas7008]

and Owen for an Example with the right leg ...

[@TheRennDawg]

Both Sting and Bret Hart won their first world titles by beating Ric Flair.

[@extremekurt]

Ric Flair is a gentleman

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

@@extremekurt that’s where some wrestlers mess up IMO. Not putting other guys over. If you hold the title a ton like Flair it doesn’t matter how you lose it and they guys you out over end up getting big and it makes everyone’s Career that much better because they are involved with so many legends. Flair was awesome in that regard, not like Hogan who would never put anyone over.

[@zlinedavid]

Flair considered it his job to make whoever he was in the ring with look like a goddamn superstar, whether they were or not.

[@simeonflake]

@@zlinedavid That would explain why I would ever watch Flair vs. Garvin...

[@zlinedavid]

@@simeonflake Although if you put Garvin in today’s WWE/AEW, he’d look like goddamn Ricky Steamboat.

[@All_Hail_Chael]

Best wrasslin channel on youtube...easy.

[@GutturalReef]

As far as the Sharpshooter vs. the Scorpion Death Lock: Aesthetically, Bret's looks better; Sting's (and many others who try the Sharpshooter) just looks sloppy!

[@Kindaserious365]

The rock has the worse. Sharpshooter of all time 😂

[@michaelkeller5927]

The Rocks is the shartshooter

[@Coyote-wm5op]

If you’re shorter it looks better

[@illkid86]

@@michaelkeller5927 sharpshitter

[@Haplo699g]

@@Kindaserious365 The Rock's version is rough AF.

[@theonewhowokeup9987]

@2:00 So that's where Shawn Michaels taunt came from in Wrestlemania 2000 and No Mercy.

[@dangxdc8348]

HITMAN vs STING could have been much more in depth and tense

[@tracyhandy3236]

Big Sting fan, but he would never look like he was applying pressure with the scorpion most times.

[@illkid86]

He would also stand up most times while doing the hold

[@ironcrosstrainingltd6482]

It's true Bret really locked it in tight and made it look unbreakable. Sting is my favorite

[@Sunshine215clfh]

Jesus saves 🙂

[@terrybrown5402]

Because alot of the time he wasn't with guys who had back problems like hogan. He was just protecting the guys he worked with. Watch sting vs flair or rick rude prior to his back injury and youll see sting sitting all the way back.

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

@@terrybrown5402 exactly they apply it how they can to who they work with, they don’t want to hurt them. I just think Bret was so smooth with it he made it look better overall. He could apply it from so many different positions and ways.

[@razieltalos]

Bret's looks better, looks more like it hurts and his technical ability is far superior to Sting which helps sell it

[@Forgemno]

Sounds like a Montreal Mark lol

[@darkmarv8045]

Bret maybe was maybe more technical than Sting, but Sting was more charismatic.

[@turdferguson2839]

This video sums up wcw's problems entirely, stories that made no sense, outside interference every match and spoiled wrestlers.

[@McSorleyFan33]

Watching this video and other wcw related videos always reminds me how the fast the NWO went from being the most amazing revolutionary thing in wrestling to the most overrated and overexposed thing in wrestling

[@luckywallace]

I really enjoy the match between Bret and Sting on Nitro at the end of 1999 - except for the screwy ending (which is just WCW 101 at this stage) it's a fantastic meeting between the two. Bret actually had a pretty good run at the end of 1999 in WCW up until he was injured, including the classic Owen Hart memorial match and finally winning the title at Mayhem.

[@ferriswheeler08]

17:11 I have no idea why.. but Bret leg dropping the ref at this point caught me by suprise and I still laugh at it to this day.. take that ref lol

[@23Revan84]

😂😂

[@Y2Kaynen87]

This match should have been at STARRCADE 1998 with Bret screwing Goldberg in November at WW3 and then joins the nWo after a year of feuding with them and gets Anvil and the Bulldog to join too so its like the Hart Foundation joined the nWo then black and white Bret Hart could go against red and black Sting and Hogan could have faced Goldberg at StarrCade as well it would have been ten times better imo.

[@CraigKostelecky]

Part of the reason that never happened was WWF had the rights to the Hart Foundation name and would not allow its use.

[@RHM-up5hn]

My two favorite wrestlers of all time. I watched all of these matches and the endings were so predictable. Who was going to interfere? WCW really dropped the ball here. A shame really. I really liked the backstage fight they had. I guess that is my favorite moment. Thanks for making a video on this.

[@stevep4574]

Sting used it first, sorry Bret.

[@GenosGlory]

Sting didn’t create the move. He took it from Japan Wrestling

[@stevep4574]

@@GenosGlory I meant b4 Hart used it.

[@GenosGlory]

@@stevep4574 Yes he did use it before Bret definetly. Valid point and both did a great job.

[@ordohereticus3427]

Right on the mark. These two had a far more intricate parallel than the much more cosmetic aspects of Sting and Taker. The problem was always about terrible WCW booking as this could’ve produced a legendary rivalry as well as ally character dynamics (when both would be face, as was the case in 1999) over the course of their respect careers. Real wasted potential.

[@richardthepastamancer6619]

there was also booker-t vs the rock wich both used the rock bottom/book end

[@kevinpayton2664]

The Rock Bottom is hands down better than the Book End.

[@richardthepastamancer6619]

@@kevinpayton2664 i agree, but only the wwe one, every wrestler took it very weirdly, probably to make it differ from the rock bottom. In WCW and TNA looked better without the weird back bump.

[@kevinpayton2664]

@@richardthepastamancer6619 I didn't watch TNA when Booker T was there. Did he do it differently there than in WCW?

[@richardthepastamancer6619]

@@kevinpayton2664 He did it the same way but the guy taking it wouldn't go feet all the way up and just take a normal back bump wich, in my opinion, makes it look a lot better and not like a weird kneeling choke slam like it did in wwe.

[@slashandbones13]

The Rock had much more dynamic energy to it.

[@josevanderlinde2404]

Did u notice that they use different leg to start their finishing move? ... Still I like the sharpshooter more. Its more ellegant.

[@rogueprince1341]

I've always thought SCSA vs DDP would have been good. Both cutter type finishers that can come out of nowhere both highly over with the fans. Both world champions.

[@curiositykilledthecat5118]

Yeah but the stunner wins easily there. Far more influential performed and the physical move was sold with much more impact. The diamond cutter would be a better comparison to the rko

[@Azriel1932]

@@curiositykilledthecat5118 and the RKO kinda wins the whole "outta nowhere!!" thing, at least to me

[@floyd2386]

@@Azriel1932 DDP kind of played up the whole "out of nowhere" thing too, but Johnny Ace was doing it way before either of them.

[@Azriel1932]

@@floyd2386 100% agree. I'm just saying that Randy Orton took it and ran with it. There's been some cool RKOs over the years. And I always loved his whole pounding the mat set up too.

[@floyd2386]

@@Azriel1932 My personal gripe with the RKO though is it looks almost too smooth and not as devastating. Watch some of Johnny Ace's Acecrushers from back in the day, absolutely deadly looking.

[@AestheticDelta]

During the 90s I was a WCW guy but I was a Bret Hart guy too and whether he or Sting won both were equally significant. From a wrestling and drama standpoint there were a lot more swerves than a novela, maybe more than my younger self could wrap my head around but it was great. That US Title might be the most prestigious belt worn that whole decade

[@arpegio88]

I tend to favor Bret's Sharp shooter over Stings deathlock version because he makes it look more 'snug' by leaning back on it. Bret also grabs his opponents knee pad or the side of their tights for leverage. Sting tends to stoop forward while performing the hold and it doesn't appear to be hooked in as tight.

[@kiprandom7208]

I still prefer the Scorpion death lock. It just sounds more cool

[@fitness65]

The matches these two had were good but the story leading to their first match was confusing as hell. All wcw could've did was create a story of who had the better finisher. With none of the bs added to it it led to confusing heel turns by Bret and just weird stuff pretty much sums up the beginning of beets first run in wcw

[@itsyourenotyour9101]

The beets there was, the beets there is, and the beets there ever will be. Beets Hart.

[@bryguysays2948]

Beets, Bears, Battlestar Galactica!

[@jordiny3756]

You should be a guest reader on Botchamania! Regardless keep up the great vids, so happy to see where this channel has gone. This feud was dopd

[@T-Bag13]

Two amazingly talented wrestlers.

[@adamsifford6228]

Two of my favorite as a teen.

[@terrybrown5402]

Bret always crossed his right leg over the opponents left and reached down to the knee as he turned the guy over so he could sit further down. Sting always took his right leg over his opponents right leg and he could go for the knee or stay higher up the leg depending on how deep he wanted to sit. Some guys like hogan he didn't sit all the way down due to hulks back problems. Thats taking care of your opponent and working safe. But sting could absolutely sit back and have it locked just as snug as bret. Watch his matches against guys like rude and flair and youll see sting sitting all the way back just like bret. So did either man do it better? I wouldn't go that far...just different.

[@TheAaronetic]

"It's Bret Hart, by the way." - Bios Pipe Bomb

[@Thor-Orion]

Bret Hart is the best ever, I don’t know why that’s so controversial. His matches tell the best stories.

[@richlewis86]

Wolfpac sting looks like the devil

[@WhiteOutEntertainment781]

especially with the black goatee, I was thinking the same thing haha

[@njk9091]

his coolest look even with the goatee

[@MrElvis161]

Sting vs HBK something I wanted see too

[@deshawndodd7883]

I WANTED TO SEE DDP VS. THE ROCK

[@bjrollick5262]

Also once Brett got to WCW Sting wasn’t using the Scorpian to much anymore. He would use it from time to time but he was mostly using the Death Drop

[@Smokey1419]

Ill always remember Starrcade 97 when Sting had Hogan in the Deathlock and he pointed to Bret before he sat down, one of the coolest moments to me as a kid (regardless of the botched finish)

[@aeonthemagus7841]

Seeing the old school Sting face paint makes me feel 5 years old again

[@kevinmichael503]

True.

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

I know it makes me want to paint my face for Halloween again.

[@Airzy_723]

Use to put that move on my little bro till he cried screaming. Who would've thought he'd whoop my ass now if we wrastled!! 😂

[@jamesbounds]

Would have been cool to see Sting and Bret Hart be a tag team for a little while and win the tag belts.

[@Sanguivore]

Aww, man. That would've been neat as heck!

[@richardboss2892]

Sharpshooter is way better than Scorpion. Bret, and especially Owen, made it look so real. Sting, a favorite of mine, never sat back when he applied it, making it look more like a comfy back stretch. Sharpshooter for sure.

[@unclecreed2986]

At the twenty second mark you see Bret applying it wrong I vote for Sting.

[@richardboss2892]

@@unclecreed2986 Owen did it perfectly every time. Sting never leans back with it, which makes it look dumb. Opinions vary, though.

[@M.R.4.2.0]

I still call it scorpion death lock

[@charliebowen5071]

Yeah... sting still is in wrestling! That’s what it’s called!

[@uke5289]

At that time Bret should have still been applying that SHARPSHOOTER to austin and co in the then WWF attitude era. Still sits funny with me seeing him in the WCW

[@Smokey1419]

I liked Bret in WCW, but i feel like Owen would've fit more with WCW

[@lonewolf_vr]

the finish was an issue, u could say that as a blanket statement for how wcw became, too many non finishes, interferences, and stuff they ruined the matches.

[@randyv.2880]

Love watching this content! Seem to learn something new in some videos too! Wrestling Bios, they can take away some wrestling, but they'll never take away OUR FREEDOM!! (Couldn't resist that one lol)

[@nathanwagner9895]

im sure it has been said here in the comments , but my ultimate dream match is Kurt Angle vs Bret Hart.

[@deshawndodd7883]

HELL YEAH THAT'S A GOOD ONE

[@nathanwagner9895]

@@deshawndodd7883 hell yea bro. i have actually simulated the match a few times in fire pro wrestling world... its funny cause the results each time are kurt will win, then bret will win.. its 50/50 booking done by the AI hahahaha.. imagine if bret stayed in WWE (WWF at the time obviously lol) in november of 1997... he was literally 2 years away from angles debut at the 1999 survivor series...... and even more sad... owen hart literally passed away SIX FREAKING MONTHS BEFORE KURTS DEBUT....

[@ashleynewman3360]

I used to make my little sister TAP!!!! with the sharpshooter....best bit, no rope breaks.

[@DigitalBath742]

Move vs move dream matches that never happened: Steve Austin vs Disco Inferno.

[@E_l_l_i_e]

🤣🤣🤣

[@floyd2386]

That would've been a Chart Buster. May have even been Stone Cold's Last Dance.

[@FighterMindset2024]

Didn't hogan's friend the wannabe dog the bounty hunter also used that finisher?

[@JamesMMcCann]

'It's Bret Hart by the way.' That made me chuckle that you said it, and I agree whole heartedly. Bret's is still the best version of that move.

[@Gazzleto]

I remember davey boy Smith using it. in a singles match against the anvil during the 80s. Back when the hearts wore blue

[@redfire2987]

Bret Hart had a few good other matches in WCW against DDP, Booker T, Ric Flair & even Lex Luger.

[@blacknapalm2131]

Bret was always a great wrestler, but Sting was also a great wrestler, was supernaturally strong, fast, explosive and with amazing charisma. He just made Bret look a bit dull in comparison. They would have made a better tag team than rivals I think.

[@tashrif46]

I think other Taker v Sting , the other match I really wanted to see was Shawn Michaels vs Eddie Guerrero.

[@airfixx_8952]

Born-again Shawn vs an evil heel Eddie hell-bent on dredging up all HBKs old demons ("I know all your darkest secrets, Shawn..... Cos I have those demons too!") would have been so good.... And the match.... THE MATCH!!?!?!??! It's often said that HBK vs EG was a plan for WM26.

[@CoreyOfTheCosmos]

Montreal incident?? First I have heard of this, should do a video sounds like an interesting subject

[@mrassassinscreedfan1]

I second this, we need a video about this Montreal thing

[@floyd2386]

I heard Bret did something to Bret, not sure what though.

[@georgethimakis4710]

Ppl seen to forget about Ultimate Warrior and surfer Sting dream match alot of ppl were talking about back in the day

[@georgethimakis4710]

@@ChristopherJames1993 but it actually was im talking before crow sting and noone wanted a match between taker and sting till he became the crow

[@ShowTymeDollarS850]

Scorpion Deathlock Vs Sharp Shooter is what I'm assuming this meant

[@kodiebutter6632]

This channel just doesn't miss. Best wrestling channel, and even if your not a fan the production is just top tier content

[@lloyddobler1310]

Haha... i'm gonna watch this later, i'm sure it's good, but 25 mins on Sharpshooter vs Scorpion?? It's the same move, different name, tiny twist. The End. lol Now getting Hitman/Sharpshooter as a dual concept in my mind. Took years lol

[@DebitAdams]

Another dream match that didn't live up to the hype

[@user-wg6ik1wi6s]

Sting's first version was so much better than his Crow type character. He should've stayed the original Sting, the whole Crow gimmick was stupid as hell and Beyond old a year into it.

[@fatcat8033]

Nash with the backwards bandana and open check shirt trying to look all “ street “ 🤔😂

[@zlinedavid]

Welcome to the late ‘90s

[@TheFlamingPike]

I remember, the day it was announced Bret Hart was coming to WCW, all I thought was that he and Sting would have a kickass feud because of the finisher move they both shared. Wasn't quite what was expected, however, much like the rest of Bret Hart's short-lived stint in WCW. :/ I don't remember if it was Bret himself who said it or if it was someone else from that era, but someone once said that "WCW had no idea what to do with Bret Hart". I think that quote sums up the whole situation pretty well. In my opinion, Bret added two things that made his sharpshooter stand out over the years: he executed it lower which made it look more painful and he would often hold it for a long period of time back during those years, which made it look more like torture than a pro wrestling submission move. As a matter of fact, I think the way Bret executed the sharpshooter on Stone Cold Steve Austin during their now famous match is one of the reasons why Austin became a fan favorite, because it looked damn painful and Austin just wouldn't give up. Sting however had the best turnbuckle splash ever. He usually didn't call for it beforehand and yet you could feel when he was about to do it.

[@only1icon1801]

If you want to explain to someone how terrible WCW was at storytelling, just show them Bret Hart's career in it Honestly, with the heat he had from Montreal, WCW could have still existed today if they had a Pat Patterson or even a Jim Cornette Such a waste of talent with the likes of Bret, Benoit, Jericho, Guerrero and so many others because the company couldn't book a table let alone a wrestling match Great upload as always WB

[@AstonishingRed]

Austin and Goldberg’s styles didn’t compliment each other one bit. I just never saw the potential for a great match between those two.

[@glennwelsh9784]

Austin was the better worker of the two. He was no technical master, mind you. But he was clearly better in the ring than Goldberg. Goldberg was all about power moves and not much else.

[@kevynhansyn2902]

Pre-neck injury Steve and Goldberg would of worked. Least thats hiw ibseen it back in the day.

[@antology7]

If it was booked like Goldberg vs Lesnar at Wrestlemania 33 it would have been good. Short, sweet and hard hitting.

[@AstonishingRed]

@@antology7 Yea but Stonecold would NEVER have let that fly in a million years

[@antology7]

@@AstonishingRed Even if Austin goes over clean?

[@brianalex2193]

I had to laugh when you said the sting vs Bret hart matches would have been better in the WWF 🤪🤪

[@10YRWWEPPV]

Sting vs Bret Hart should have taken place at WCW/nWo Souled Out 1998 for the World Title. Ending in a DQ as a way to protect them both, since it was Bret's first match and Sting's first title defense neither could lose. Then team up once Sting lost to Hogan in the Summer. But friction happen both enter a blood feud, that leads Hart facing Hogan at Starrcade 1998 and Bret wins.

[@Pacuta_]

Yeah Bret definitely did the Sharpshooter/SDL better. Sting, even when he was younger, usually turned over slower and rarely sat back far enough to make it look painful.

[@dallastx4443]

The best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be!! Bret the hitman heart!!!

[@CraigKostelecky]

It was just starting to look salvageable, and perhaps even awesome, right when he got hurt against Goldberg. I remember feeling very optimistic with the nWo silver started up.

[@56majima72]

In fact, Choshu Riki didn't come up with the Sasori Gatame/Scorpion Deathlock, it was created by his fellow worker, Masa Saito and made popular by Choshu.

[@GooniesNeverSayDie1980]

The Scorpion Death Drop is more awesome than both, my vote tho goes to the Scorpion Death Lock between the two holding finishers....

[@underpressure07140]

19:53 more like Lex Luger hit the Hitman's leg out of his leg

[@thekurgan1580]

Love watching your content man 🤘

[@WrestlingBios]

I appreciate it!

[@petenojd]

Nobody snapped on the sharp-shooter like Bret did. Like the rest of his moves, he was flawless... Anyway, I have to say I don't really understand the gripe against "dirty" matches. When you have two legends like Hart and Sting you want to protect them both and dirty matches help do that. Besides, heels are supposed to work dirty! Anyway, speaking of dream matches, Hart v Angle is another one that gets mentioned a lot. Imagine the matches those two could have had.

[@anthonyamoroso6451]

Red and black sting in the Wolfpack was such a good time, wish it could've lasted a bit longer!

[@arh15101986]

I actually saw Sting vs Bret at a WCW house show in January of 1999. Sting worked as a baby face with his black and white look while Bret was heel. Sting won with a Scorpion Death Drop for a clean pin.

[@jameswarner5878]

16:48 Bret's rope. 17:42 Bret's rope.

[@PreacherTHC]

Would love to see a video about Harvey whippleman not a lot of people talk about him but he did have a considerable contribution to the wrestling organization and I have very much would like to see a wrestling bio on him if possible love your work by the way

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

Love Sting, his Stinger Splash and death drop were awesome, but he wouldn't sit back on the sharpshooter so it didn't look like he applied much pressure. Bret would hook the sharpshooter on nicely, sit low, and lean back, making the sharpshooter look like it was very painful.

[@Ricktheruler281]

Sting was my favorite wrestler, but Bret Hart applied the finisher better.

[@TitanIsBack]

The reason why nobody talks about these matches is because Sting, he has admitted it himself, wasn't a great worker like Bret was. He has to be carried by someone who can work. It wasn't so much the interferences that caused the issues, you had to use smoke and mirrors to hide the limited ability with Sting.

[@aarons.8532]

My friends and I would get so mad about dropping $$ on the WCW PPVs and EVERY match we'd be excited for had an interference.

[@pantherhd1]

The sharpshooter wins no contest Bret made sharpshooter look painful he FINSHED more top wrestlers with it.Sting changed his FINSHER to few time something sting scorpion death lock look off special when it looked lose and no pressure and taught in it

[@LivinhItUp]

Always liked how it was always a struggle for Bret to lock in the Sharpshooter but when it was time to end the match and really lock it in, he wasted no time and made it look good from start to finish. In the end, legacy wise, the common wrestling fan will call it the Sharpshooter over the SDL. And I don't think it was a coincidence Sting opted to go with Death Drop DDT as his finisher later in his career to make it his own.

[@pantherhd1]

Chris Benoit vs Bret hart was big at its time.LOL I wonder if malcom in the middle still has that clip in the start of its intro

[@Nazzers]

A true Hart v Sting dream match should have been face v face. This was the standard heel v face match that we've seen a million times. That plus all of the nWo screwiness just detracted from a match that should sell itself.

[@Lodatzor]

That's WCW for you.

[@rikkihill22]

Technically they're ever so slightly different moves. The SDL hooks the opponent at the ankle while the Sharpshooter hooks them at the knee. The Sharpshooter obviously looks loads better but Sting did make attempts to differentiate the move at least which I believe Bret has acknowledged and appreciated in the past.

[@crushthecrushermachinewwel6500]

My dream match undertaker vs sting at wrestlemania is my dream match I’m very sad i never see my dream match

[@angusthecat1689]

i saw sting use the hold in the 80's. never saw brett use it til the 90's

[@nomikes4392]

I hope nobody is thinking either invented "the Texas cloverleaf" from the 50s

[@illkid86]

@@nomikes4392 cloverleaf is an entirely different hold

[@illkid86]

Doesn't matter the hold is more associated to Bret

[@nomikes4392]

@@illkid86 No it is not. Just search "how to do the texas cloverleaf" here on youtube. The cloverleaf is basically a classic figure four leglock (which is applied by the arms not the legs like the figure four leg grapevine) turned over into the crab position. The only differences are in the position of the applier's legs: straddling the recipients body or one leg entwined within the figure four. Same hold. Same effect

[@RoXolid]

I have added a card to this video in my video which is going live tomorrow, featuring WCW/nWo Revenge on the N64, as I feature Bret Hart vs Sting in the video. Keep up the great work, definitely a fan!