Bonnie Prince Charlie and the Jacobites - Who were they? What did they want?

[@kimfleury]

This is a time and place that wasn't covered in my US school history courses, other than maybe whatever bits fit into the American Revolutionary War and Independence. I enjoy learning history, if only there were enough time in the day to learn it all! Thank you for loving your land and teaching her history to your own countrymen, and to us foreigners abroad. I don't have time to read up on it, but find it greatly enriching to have access to your work. Thank you!

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thank you! 🙂

[@danatowne5498]

Well said, I agree.

[@LestAnyManBoast]

Please do video on the "Jacobite Gleanings" and the " Secret Service of John Mackey"

[@IosuamacaMhadaidh]

Lots of US citizens do not realize Jacobite history is part of our history too. Or how much the Scots have contributed to our nation since it's foundation. Slàinte mhath mo charaidean!

[@johngrantham8024]

I've never understood why the wee man on the shortbread tins is seen as a hero in Scotland. He was a European dilettante who fancied his chances, caused havoc and then buggered off back to Europe leaving the poor highlanders to pay the price.

[@morgant.dulaman8733]

So he has been portrayed...but considering the Jacobite cause was doomed if the royals around which the whole cause centered were captured or slain, I'd say he had reason to leave. Also, given the crown rightfully belonged to the Stuarts over the Hanoverian usurpers, I'd say he had good reasons to want to fight.

[@Emma-Jayne]

This was as always an eye opener. The battle histories are always the saddest, the people that bring them about are never the ones that fight or die in them. As much as I love the history, the heart still hurts for the lives lost in a battle not of their making. On a brighter note, Outlander covers some of it 😏

[@Emma-Jayne]

Oh If only I had been there, I would’ve flicked him with a tea towel

[@scotlandunplugged]

Haha. A tartan touristy tea towel would seem fitting for Chas 🙃

[@Emma-Jayne]

@@scotlandunplugged what a great Idea! I can just see his smug face 😂🤣😂

[@XenaBe25]

@@scotlandunplugged lol ikr The first I'd heard of this skirmish was in that show. Jeez what a weird show lol time travel and magic beans and your husband's ancestor raping your imaginary lover in prison. I half expect this doctor heroine to wake up in a rubber room next season. But it's one of my guilty pleasures bc the scenery and the actors are so pretty. I'll watch the hell out of pretty actors on mountaintops reading the phonebook 😊 I had to do some research to find out if parts of the story were real or just more pretty fiction. Nope. And reality was waaay less pretty than the show. Those guys were totally on the wrong side of history, and the Battle of Culloden was a tragic massacre. Even my crazy ancestors weren't willing to die a hero's death for some floofy prince, no matter how charming and French he was. I have to ask... were those guys all drunk or smthg? Terrible decision, dying like that *smh*

[@nenaelliott8058]

Thanks Robert. A lot to take in but very interesting. ❤

[@haggielady]

Thank you for going the extra mile and taking us along with you. I love these videos. Entertaining and educational, all rolled into a beautiful setting.

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thank you! 🙂

[@sharonm3677]

Excellent history lesson. I love how easy you explain the history, the rulers, clans and the events that took place. Also the religions and their importance. I’m also actually quite shocked with how many females held such high roles such as queens. Is the royalty line dependant on the next in line or would it go to the next male in line? When I first started exploring my great grandparents Scottish heritage it took me into a world I truly had no knowledge of and could barely understand. ( I’m such a naive Canadian) lol. It’s been very interesting reading about the history and I’ve learned a lot about how and why my great grandparents ended up in Canada. I just absolutely love your videos and how you draw us into the stories. ❤❤

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thank you! 🙂 It would have been the first male heir (now changed to first heir) but the act of settlement meant that that you couldn’t be king if you were catholic or married to a catholic. That was only amended recently too!

[@sharonm3677]

@@scotlandunplugged thank you. Wow that’s very interesting.

[@richarddaugherty8583]

A fun fact I learned about the Scottish monarchy is how it differed from the English/European model (back in Robert the Bruce's day). The king of Scots is king of the people, not the land. If the Scots all picked up and moved somewhere else, he or she is still King of Scots. If the English people pick up and leave, the king of England is stuck with the land. There used to be something called Tanistry for the Scots monarchy, vs. Primogeniture for the English in terms of deciding the succession. I don't know much about it, sadly. From Robert's description above, I think that is no more.

[@pedanticradiator]

​@@richarddaugherty8583 many early medieval monarchs called themselves "King of the " it changed when the feudal system was at its height. Some kings of Scots did use Scotland or Scotia as well as Scots/Scotorum. The tanistry system was dispensed of around 1100 I think

[@ramonadixon1291]

Wow! That was a lot of history to take in but as always you explain it so well. Thank you so much for taking the time and putting in the effort to give us all this wonderful content. It is truly appreciated.

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thank you! Culloden coming soon but that should be less complicated 😂

[@ramonadixon1291]

@@scotlandunplugged Isn't it always complicated lol

[@TheEggmaniac]

Good video. I sometimes think that the Stewart dynasty ( House of Stewart ) who had been deposed as the kings of Scotland and England, just used the Scots, particularly the highlanders for their own ends. The Stewarts, under Bonnie Prince Charlie, ultimate goal, was the crown of England. They saw the highlanders as way back into power, in Britain. So they could hopefully take back the crown of Scotland and England. I dont think they really cared much about the Gaelic highlander culture. When the rebellion they started, was over, Bonnie Prince Charlie escaped to France. He then lived out the rest of his life in a very comfortable existence in other countries such as France and Italy. While the defeated highlanders were left devastated and their culture destroyed, by the victorious British forces. Many of the defeated highlanders including their families were murdered, or forced to flee. Some immigrating overseas. The rebellion was a much greater risk for the Scottish highlanders to take, than wealthy aristocrats like Bonnie Prince Charlie. It seems it was a clash between the two aristocratic dynasties of the Stewarts and Hanoverian contenders, for the crown and so the rule of Britain. Where the generally, average and unwealthy people of a country are just used as disposable pawns in their game and left to pay the price. I wonder what would have happened if they had said to Charlie 'please gie us peace.' Ok they might have said it Gaelic, but dont know what that is.

[@vanessahenry7238]

To be honest I only heard this war barely touched on when studying history growing up. It wasn't until watching Outlander, that made me really hear of it and a friend from Scotland helped me learn more! It took one book and show to make me seek out the history! I feel bad - mainly since some of my mums family are from there! Thanks to them and friends I got to know more! Thank you for making this video!

[@DonAbrams-hq7ln]

Many of the highland ScotsIrish in NC are decendents of the transportation.Go to Guilford Courthouse and see jacobite uniformed manakins on display.

[@alicegamble6145]

Great video. Beautiful scenery witha a great history lesson. Have a good day

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thanks Alice! You too 🙂

[@K_A421]

Great history lesson. I’m a Scott across the pond. I love the pictures you’re so descriptive and accurate with history. This is my family the Stewart’s. Thank you! 🤗♥️

[@pedanticradiator]

*Scot

[@morgsjoboo2247]

WOW!! Fabulous video, wish we had seen this before as you explain it so much better than I did when I tried to explain to Morgs all about the Stewarts. Hope you're having a good week Morgs Jo and Boo 🐕

[@shirleylaboy603]

You explain everything perfectly. Thank you for the history lesson. 🙂❤️

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thank you! 🙂

[@Sh4peofmyheart]

I've only ever heard the greatly simplified version of these events--the bare bones, if you will. Thank you for digging into the meat of things. Beautiful scenery, too. Thank you so much.

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thank you! Culloden coming soon 🙂

[@Sh4peofmyheart]

@@scotlandunplugged looking forward to it! 😁

[@mmhthree]

These are the stories of our grandparents, which many fail to realize for some reason. Doing my genealogy, I came across so many of these famous families it is almost ridiculous, and I figure many Americans come from these same lines. Many of the experiences we had in England and Europe are why the laws are set up as they were here in the USA. Sadly, these times and lessons are being forgotten with new interpretations of our laws here being skewed from what they were originally intended. Man never seems to learn and I guess we will have to learn these lessons once again. Thank you for your video!!

[@helpinyerdasellavon]

Another fascinating history lesson. Thank you, Robert 💙

[@suellenspencer-eb2nv]

Got lost early on. I'll watch again & maybe yet again. Not sure that will clear it up for me or not!!! Wonderful history as usual. Thank you.

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thank you! It was a bit rapid fire 🙂

[@barbridingsTheResinator]

Amazing video. Thank you so much. Excellent history explanation. Keep them coming!!

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thanks Barb! Culloden coming soon 🙂

[@monicab204]

I went to the Culloden battlefield a few years back. A friend of my loved Outlander and wanted to go too. It was very interesting since I didn't know much about it and I love history. I'm glad you got to go. Your video was fabulous. ❤

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thank you! It’s quite something. Follow up coming very soon 🙂

[@mickeyh53]

For all it’s pomp & fantasy..one can only marvel at the TV show Outlander..& how so many fans use it as a reference point regarding Scottish history..I dare say tourism is on the rise because of it?..if so that’s puts food on the table..another wonderful history lesson Robert..keep them coming thank you kindly..🇦🇺

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thanks Michael! It definitely has increased tourism and interest in the period. Outlander tours are very popular, and are a mini industry of their own 🙂 Culloden coming soon!

[@jonathanoates1298]

It also led to some original work being published on the 45.

[@camerongibson6342]

A most enjoyable video Robbie , and the work that you put into is fantastic

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thanks Cameron!

[@ComingHomeToYourself21]

WIG collection - HILARIOUS !!! 🤣

[@RossMcKie]

Fantastic job again cuz, this was a complicated video but you really know your stuff 👍 brilliant!

[@scotlandunplugged]

Cheers cuz! It was a complex one to unwrap 😂

[@kathrynmartin8224]

Another brilliant video with great footage.. very interesting and informative.. Thank you..

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thank you! Follow up to come 🙂

[@becsterbrisbane6275]

Mark me, this is a fabulous video!

[@stephenoran2019]

Great info! Thanks!

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thank you!

[@patriciamccormack7626Teashee]

Thank you Robert, that was so interesting, I loved history at school, but I don't remember the teacher going that far back, so thank you ❤

[@scotlandunplugged]

I don’t think we got much Scottish history either. More at primary school, now I think about it 🙂

[@annebell7274]

WoW. There were so many names flying about I had to concentrate hard. It is fascinating tho. I think History teachers should follow your lead. 👍👍👍🙏💛

[@jodifinnegan4453]

I would have loved history class in school if it had been taught like this!!! Another Great video 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thanks Jodi! 🙂

[@Tyrannocaster]

Charlie was one of the most feckless, entitled, and arrogant leaders in history and his arguing with his own military officers cost the lives of so many good Scots that day, while the "bonnie" prince himself ran away from the battle site - dressed as a woman, some say. Culloden makes me sad for so many reasons; what a deadly shambles.

[@DonAbrams-hq7ln]

Hate to look at the cairn and the clan markers. Yet they chose that ground like they did at Agincourt. Sad to know the butchery of clansmen post Cumberlands victory. No quarter should never have been enacted. Again George ll had no empathy. To this day, l can NEVER acknowledge a German as a king of England, Scotland and Wales.

[@pedanticradiator]

​@@DonAbrams-hq7ln do you know the current Jacobite heir is in fact German?

[@Hailstonepie]

Sunday names, made I smile 😁

[@philsooty61]

Love this story, a true history fact that has always intrigued me, though I was born in England I have Scottish and Irish ancestors so I don't know whether that has something to do with it, I visited Culloden many years ago and I swear I felt something as the hairs on my body stood on end, it is a very eerie place ! thanks for this documentary one of the best I have ever seen so a like and subscribe from me.

[@scotlandunplugged]

Thank you! It's quite a place, especially when it's quiet.

[@DonAbrams-hq7ln]

I hope they use ground penetrating radar someday to see how honorably the clansmen were interred. They are unknown only by God are they known.

[@richarddaugherty8583]

I have a theory as to why the Constitution of the United States has such profound distrust of government built into it. (Wholly justified, as it turns out!) The uprising of 1745 would only have been 30 years prior to the Declaration of Independence. That fact, together with the arrogance and oppression of the colonies by the British Crown produced our unique system whereby one branch of government has checks and balances by the others. A very interesting comment by one of my co-workers who had immigrated and naturalized was that he didn't like the parliamentary system because he didn't get to vote for the ultimate leaders, only the MP's. Love your videos!

[@janedaniels7645]

Enjoyed this very much, although it was quite hard to follow the different James’! I’m surprised your videos haven’t been picked up by a TV channel because you have a very engaging, light hearted style.

[@a.d.maccrae]

My own family (not the last name you see here, of course) were Jacobite supporters who fled to the American colonies in the aftermath of Culloden.

[@nadinedeeren9861]

Cromwell...a slight speed woble....😂😂 Called for a slight regime change😂😂 Oh you do know how to turn a phrase. But in all seriousness Culloden would turn out to be a horrid loss of life and in fact culture. I look forward to the continuation of this tale. My best to Mrs Caroline Parker and the family.

[@scotlandunplugged]

Couldn’t resist. 😂 The Culloden video is in the works now and as you say, it’s a good bit darker. Hope you’re doing well!

[@BoadiceanRevenge]

Culloden is an extremely emotive place! Almost silent despite the proximity of a busy road and lots of tourists. And when the whole history of what the Duke of Cumberland, aka Butcher Cumberland, ordered to be done, then Culloden becomes a truly haunting place! 🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪🙏

[@scottjock]

At last someone mentions the worry about religion aspect. Well done.

[@Vulcanwoman]

Wow. Bonnie Prince Charlie had a long name.

[@commonsenserevolutionx1053]

Canadians don't get any foreign history in our schools. I do like history especially U.S. I also look into a lot of British history, Scottish independence interests me. More I read on Prince Charlie, he seems to be a sunny day patriot. Liked to think of himself as a great general, but really quite naive in military matters, and when things got hot "left the building". Scotland has great patriots, I don't see Charlie being one of the braver ones.

[@abddulhaseeb6977]

The famous Jacobite Alen Breck Stewart and David Balfour from the lowland of Scotland at that time an epic historical attempt by Robert Louis Stevenson to improve image of highlanders at that time

[@sandramarieroberts1172]

Definitely, a case of collective gaslighting. I grew up with a Scottish grandmother and Bonnie Prince Charlie was revered by highland Scots. But what do you do when the hero of your cause turns out to be a narcissist whose only ambition was ever for himself? Knowing you were duped and lost your entire cultural way of life because of loyalty to the young pretender is probably too much to bear, so the legends live on. Not a hero. More of a royal heel and definitely a zero.

[@cg8397]

He couldn't even do the ONE job he was born to do - father legitimate heirs to continue his dynasty.

[@elizabethwatts9754]

Who *were* they? Do you think we have gone away, or forotten? Do you think a Parliament can choose a King, or alter who our true King is? Some of us have remembered; some of us will. Not for a thousand years will we forget.

[@mschoy1597]

Great video! I learned so much! Thank you again. 😄😁😄😁My question for you is: if you could re-live your earthly life, would you want to incarnate as a Scottish royal?

[@scotlandunplugged]

Haha. I wouldn’t fancy it much. Too much chance of getting beheaded, or your loved ones kidnapped or, like James, being cut out and exiled 😂

[@RuthRoberts-e5b]

The actor who played Bonnie Prince Charlie did a smash-bang good job. I was very impressed !

[@hayesjulie]

Thanks so much for all this information. I couldn't help but feel sad as you ended. I hate war. They should flip coins or something. But....then, they'd get mad about that and start fighting. grrr

[@cindyrissal3628]

Is Charles an ancestor of QE II? Something about his portrait reminds me of her...

[@scotlandunplugged]

Hmmm. Good question. Which one?

[@sandramarieroberts1172]

Not an ancestor, but a distant cousin. They both are descendants of James1. Her via his daughter’s descendants and the Hanoverian line. Him via his great grandson within the Stuart line.

[@pedanticradiator]

Charles has no living descendants despite what some people claim

[@michellezoe4596]

Zero....all day long and twice on Sunday!

[@That-One-Georgia-Bear]

Sad to see that even across the Atlantic those who wave the st. Andrew’s cross for a flag fall as well.

[@Hailstonepie]

Lucken booth history please honey?😊

[@GraysonGose]

i’m only here because grant told me to come and give you sht in his last video. i guess i’ll hang out for a bit, this is pretty interesting

[@IosuamacaMhadaidh]

Instead of Jacobites as a monicker, how's 'bout Seamusnnach? Lol, still learning Gaelic, I'm trying 😂😅

[@seastorm1979]

Freedom and Liberty!!

[@moosey62]

[@pedanticradiator]

The Stuarts never believed in liberty

[@DeRose05]

The outcome of this battle is why my ancestors left Scotland. WHEN Scotland becomes an independent country, I hope to get a dual citizenship.

[@andrearock2208]

You and your brother from GP, lol, have so different hair. Lol

[@angicatron8512]

❤❤❤ 😮 ❤❤❤

[@chiasanzes9770]

8.03 is not Charles Edward Stuart but his brother cardinal Henry Benedict.

[@nolawalter6273]

What happened with this video?! It ended without finishing the story. No discussion of what happened at Culloden,etc or what happened with Bonnie Prince Charlie!!??

[@scotlandunplugged]

That’s coming up in the next video. Culloden was just too big a subject to fit it all in 🙂

[@CensureAsylum]

I am sadenend by the English defeating Bonnie Prince Charlie and the Jacobites.

[@jonathanoates1298]

A third of the so called English army was Scottish not to mention the Irish and a few Welsh. It was a British army.

[@Chloe-d4z]

HOOF GP sent me

[@JACK_TheAllSeeingEye]

House of Dunkeld. Last Celtic rulers of a Celtic throne. The rest are French, German or whathaveyou and married a 2nd female cousin or the equivalent. Usurpers really.

[@pedanticradiator]

Though the House of Dunkeld married members of foreign royal families too which is how the "French" houses of Bruce, Baliol and Stewart came to the Scottish throne

[@TheRomans-exe]

Perhaps Bonnie Prince Charlie should have held Scotland, secured his position, and THEN march south to London at a more favorable time.

[@floydlawson3488]

Who else thinks John III of Poland bears a resemblance to Count Dankula?

[@scotlandunplugged]

He does a bit 😂

[@ryanawilson8549]

Outlander spends some time on the jacobites etc. Can't speak to the accuracy though.

[@scotlandunplugged]

I haven’t seen much of it but I know Diana Gabaldoon was thorough with her research 🙂

[@jonathanoates1298]

Outlander is pretty inaccurate historically speaking, the TV version.

[@markmaccabees]

Bonnie was a man with a right to the throne, however, he used the highlanders, who were mostly catholic to his OWN ends, not theirs. He brought an end to that way of life and sent the highlanders to be scattered to the new world with nothing but what they could carry. Obviously much of the blame falls on the clan leaders who led their people down a wrong path as well. So, blame goes to a lot of the characters. It was the everyday highlander who paid the awful price. Highlanders should have stayed out of London politics.

[@PomorskiWilk]

The Highlanders were mostly protestants, but they preferred a Catholic Scot as king rather than a Protestant German.

[@pedanticradiator]

​​@@PomorskiWilk Charles Edward Stuart and George II had around the same amount of "Scottishness" in their ancestry. Charles's father was born in England as was his paternal grandfather James II and VII whose 2nd wife Charles' grandmother was Italian. Charles's mother was Polish . George and Charles were both descendants of James I & VI through different children both born in Scotland

[@PomorskiWilk]

@@pedanticradiator What matters to me is Salic law and descent through the sword. The Stuarts descended in the male line directly from the kings of Scotland. Mary Stuart's husband and father of the future king of England, Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley descended in the male line from the Stuarts. Not through the royal line, but through the line descending from Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland (the Stuart kings of Scotland descended from Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland, so they were cousins ​​in the main line). In France, the law was merciless and the king was the nephew of King Philip the Fair, not his grandson by his daughter, the king of England

[@pedanticradiator]

@@PomorskiWilk if the Salic law applied to the Scottish throne then the Stewarts would never have inherited it as they only did so through the daughter of Robert the Bruce whose claim to the throne was I believe also through a female line

[@PomorskiWilk]

@@pedanticradiator The Stewarts' claims were based on the fact that after the Bruce dynasty died out, Robert the Bruce's daughter was married to Stewart. Customs vary from country to country. I liked the French Salic law, which stated that the king was the eldest son, or possibly the closest male relative of the king. Personally, I am Polish and I believe that my country was first ruined by trading in the crown instead of sticking to its native dynasty (the last Piast preferred to give the Polish crown to his nephew - the king of Hungary, rather than to his cousins, who were his vassals). Then, after the next dynasty died out - the Jagiellons, the nobility passed a law that the king was elected in Poland, which introduced anarchy and frequent interventions from neighbors. Personally, I believe that the Stuarts had every right to the Scottish crown for one reason - the Scots in their masses (even Protestants) supported their native dynasty, as evidenced by the scale of Prince Charles's uprising. On the other hand, the English could keep the Germans from Hanover on the throne, if that was their will.

[@acevedo128]

I got interested in Scottish history when I found out that the Scotts beat the Romans. And the Romans had to build a wall across Scotland. 😂😂😂😂 It was the biggest waste of money for the Romans. The Scotts used whale hunting boats and went around 😂😂😂😂😂

[@pedanticradiator]

Pity you can't spell Scots then.

[@acevedo128]

@pedanticradiator1491 auto correct, corrected me. No double T, got it😉

[@tomlewis8429]

I’m going with ‘ZERO’. From the little I know, it seems his ‘style’, or notions, of kingship were ‘regressive’ rather than ‘progressive’. I also suspect that his rule would have been no more ‘Scottish’ than that of any of his Scottish ‘United’ Kingdom predecessors. I would take issue with the notion that Culloden was the beginning’ of the end for a way of life (Highlanders) and that, although caused/hastened by the Jacobite rebellions, it was actually the far more mundane, building of roads, that sealed the fate of the Highland way of life. Even when Scotland was an independent country it might be argued that the Highlands were only ‘loosely’ affiliated (that’s why there were Clans). Kingly, or government, rule did not extend (much) beyond the margins, Highlanders were, quite literally, a rule unto themselves. It was only the building of (military) roads, in the 17th and 18th century, by Wade, amongst others, that allowed government edict, and rule of law, to cover the whole country and thus the end of the need for mutually supporting ‘Clan’ groups.

[@suzetteperkins1089]

This is so messed up

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[@johnisaacfelipe6357]

Catholic United Kingdom.....

[@GunRights4US]

So called Bonnie Prince Charlie spent the lives of his supporters heedlessly. And when faced with defeat he tucked tail and ran. After being saved by an extremely brave and principled woman, he embarked on a 44 year-long drunken debauchery, first in Paris and later in Rome. In my view, he was a contemptible swine who was unworthy of the allegiance he was given by honorable Scots!