How MoP Will change Classic FOREVER! It just brings soooo much!

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@Scottejaye Ай бұрын

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@brickguy5603 Ай бұрын

This man during classic - TBC BEST EXPANSION!!!, during TBC - WOLTK WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING, during wotlk - CATA BEST WOW EXPANSION, now during cata - MOP WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING

@Lilje87 Ай бұрын

Ye he will prob say Shadowlands is the best shit ever aswell !

@Shiirow Ай бұрын

@@Lilje87 no one has ever said that, outside of trying to be cute or building a strawman argument. SL will continue to be the lowest point until they make an expansion worse than it, DF and TWW are luke warm mediocre.

@andromidius Ай бұрын

@@Lilje87 A lot of people praised the first tier of raiding, so its got that going for it at least. Pandaria is great though. Until WoD I think every expansion improves the game.

@JT-mt6ku Ай бұрын

The zoomers yearn for the artifact power grind

@milosmarinkovic2853 Ай бұрын

He has to farm the subs somehow, and yea even if they decided to do Shadowlands Classic this guy is gonna say how it was the best expansion.

@jerryd1234 Ай бұрын

Imagine thinking this dev team can be trusted after t11

@GoofyBait Ай бұрын

wdym

@xRip666x Ай бұрын

ive sent the anthrax letter to them already. ¨This item begins a quest¨.....

@talmbout7779 Ай бұрын

@@mcbaggins12 HONESTLY i think that was fine, devs exercising on classic wow is great for everyone . however it is very confusing to new players who JUST came in as wrath tourists .. and they cannot sense the hive mind of the classic playerbase

@talmbout7779 Ай бұрын

OH YES I WANT A AUTHENTHIC 100% HANDS OFF MOP TREATMENT FROM DEVS, ONLY THE REAL CAN STAY

@acillius2 Ай бұрын

MoP is the expansion I have been waiting for to do all over again. I have played from the very start of classic and I am excited for MoP i'll probably be done after though.

@BluntTrauma369 Ай бұрын

WC3 led us to the Frozen Throne - we saw Arthas go from a prince to a LK while trying to save his people. Then we got WoW and 90% of the playerbase knew of characters in TBC + LK at least vaguely. Classic ended at LK. Beyond that is was a different game entirely imo. (Don't crucify me over the lore nitty-gritty - I was a wee lad when I played WC3 but it was a very core memory and so many friends around my age had experienced it too. The boxes with half face Orc / Human will never be forgotten. I know the game had breadcrumbs of information that led onto MoP for example (Chen was in WC3 IIRC) but Arthas was "THE BIG BADDIE" everyone came into OG WoW hoping to eventually conclude the storyline. It was such a huge thing, LK announcement was beyond hype - I still remember leveling in STV on an alt when they announced it.) Feels weird, I was something like 9 when WoW came around and loved playing it. Now i'm 28; subbed on and off many times for different reasons but I remember the start more then the middle and end when it comes to this game.

@gracer619 Ай бұрын

Firelands isn't even out yet...

@genova3266 Ай бұрын

😂

@tekamer6566 Ай бұрын

It’s been out for more than 10 years

@tainicon4639 Ай бұрын

@@tekamer6566”hur dur, classic isn’t a real game”

@Verexs Ай бұрын

Don’t think the ppl leaving cata will come back for mop.

@walzdaudi946 19 күн бұрын

wrong, alot of other people will join that dont even like cata, people like me

@zenitsu9595 6 күн бұрын

I will personnally. Because MoP is either u absolutly love that expansion or u absolutly hate it and I think that people that absolutly love it will play it.

@Lothnar5070 4 күн бұрын

MOP was the GOAT for me, hell yeah I'm playing it!!

@aic20 Ай бұрын

I always preferred the Challenge Mode system vs the M+ systems we have today. I thought it was really cool that the rewards for doing higher difficulty dungeons on a speed timer was purely cosmetic rewards. It made it prestigious to do but not mandatory for gear progression. Raiding has always felt better in an MMO to me

@Joardee Ай бұрын

Great vid scotte stoked for mop

@DrewAmongTheFence78 Ай бұрын

The raids are so damn good Joardee. Even on replaying the fights on long duration phases, after phase 1 feels so much more fun for longer and the fights are so much more satisfying to reclear weekly. I can't put my finger one exactly why but the encounter design is just so well done. Only one or two weak/gimmicky fights in 16+13+14=43 total raid encounters. Been blasting raids on Mistblade since April to refresh from my Guild and Heroic raid leading and clearing the raids when MoP was current. We are in for a fucking treat. Great normal and heroic tuning and reward systems that make raiding feel maybe the best it has ever felt.

@TheNoobtuberr Ай бұрын

17:29 this is already possible in Cataclysm (classic) you can walk into any old raid without a group right now.

@astralfields 28 күн бұрын

Is it? That must be a fairly recent change then because some weeks ago I tried to solo BWL and I couldn't get into the raid without the solo raid macro.

@TheNoobtuberr 28 күн бұрын

@@astralfields Haven't tried BWL but Karazhan and Ulduar both at least work.

@EdinMike Ай бұрын

I bowed out in OG Wrath… came back for Cata just to have a look. Never had a peak at MoP. So I’m kinda intrigued to see what I missed!

@tekamer6566 Ай бұрын

You definitely gonna be playing wow retail with 10 year lag

@Grunttamer Ай бұрын

Classic wrath was perfect

@andrecardoso6941 23 күн бұрын

@@Grunttamernah it died too fast. People were just raid logging and PvP was awful with all the PvE gear required. Also 3v3 bracket was dead and 2v2 was all about those long games.

@whoischris28 8 күн бұрын

it was so much fun imo you shoul try it out

@Grunttamer 8 күн бұрын

@@andrecardoso6941 I hate to tell you wow pvp is garbage. Pve is why people play

@J2911L Ай бұрын

Let me be the only positive person in the comments. Im looking forward so much towards MoP. WoTLK, MoP and Legion are for me the best three. Dont really care if its not considered Classic. Theres SoD, Era and hardcore servers you can play. You have Turtle wow and Ascension if you're looking for more private stuff. MoP is gonna be a fucking blast to play again.

@akhsdenlew1861 Ай бұрын

i personally can't wait for Shadowlands classic..

@tuckerstevens9689 Ай бұрын

The truth is that the BEST WOW expansion is when you had a ton of free time and no responsibilities so you could no life it and play non-stop (Usually late middle school and high school). Many of us have seeked that peak nostalgia again when older and that time in your life is not coming back. Focus on other things and grow as a person.

@Dutchmaster_88 7 күн бұрын

Quote for the truth.

@mackdye9070 Ай бұрын

Scottejaye posting videos about MoP Classic a year before everyone else is a dream come true.

@spiderversestyle 10 күн бұрын

Finally! some good food. I've played through MOP but forgot how everything was, so I look forward to playing my main which is a monk and race panda! :D

@conanmcclanahan1069 Ай бұрын

I know this isn't the spirit of the "Classic" community, and that there may be a break point at Mists of Pandaria for a lot of the oldest, dyed in the wool Blizzard purest's, but I'm about to lose sleep for months playing it, and completing EVERY - SINGLE - STORY - IN - THIS - EXPANSION!!! So many "streamers" and again, seemingly older gamers thought this was simply an April fool's joke taken to far... but the reality of introducing the TRUE "Eastern Kingdoms" to World of Warcraft is a seminal moment that I personally could replay 1000 times, and never get tired of! It is simply too beautiful!! It is simply too deeply steeped in lore!!! The emotional struggle encapsulated by this expansion DEFINED the Horde and Alliance for the next decade, and introduced/awoke characters the world had DESPERATELY needed and set in motion events that would be playing out all the way 'til Battle For Azeroth!

@Praisedbg 16 күн бұрын

Excited, Been waiting for MoP classic ever since classic was announced, MoP is the GOAT xpac.

@AzxTheVampire 14 сағат бұрын

Cata already changed wow classic, changed the talent tree's, changed the lands, changed tons of things.

@markshepherd4791 Ай бұрын

Reading the comments looks like you were spot on with the first 20 seconds 😆

@fel385 Ай бұрын

Not really a classic enjoyer but I do think I'll have to do a warlock in MoP to get a taste for my favorite class design they've ever put in the game again

@nottjohn3514 23 күн бұрын

im getting backshots while watching this video scotte! Great video, very excited for mop!

@Dbarnes0 Ай бұрын

Ghostcrawler class design... thats enough to get some ppl back but modern Blizz arent hitting the mark often lately

@XThegamerofPC Ай бұрын

tanking from cata to mop will be so different especially with hit and expertise going away making it alot of fun to do and not having to worry about seeing " miss, parry, dodge"

@XThegamerofPC Ай бұрын

also titanforging in the first version too will be good but also gonna be super messy for raid grps

@Brejas03 Ай бұрын

gotta wait for WoD for that, MoP still had hit and expertise

@meta1152 Ай бұрын

@Brejas03 and Hunters need Expertise iirc.

@wingsofunlimitedpepsi6817 Ай бұрын

Omg yes! I’m currently leveling a paladin in cata and I’m seeing that fucking miss/parry/dodge bullshit and it drives me insane 😭 That shit is so outdated and unfun that’s why I’m exited for it to be removed in mop.

@AsianVideoGamer Ай бұрын

I already quit WoW classic. Bring it back to vanilla plz

@andrecardoso6941 23 күн бұрын

There’s vanilla servers for you to play.

@kibble-net Ай бұрын

MOP was a great expansion but I agree it's weird thinking of it as "classic". When does classic truly end? WOD? Legion? BFA? No matter what you call it, being able to play through the expansions again has been a nostalgia trip.

@Bentham44 Ай бұрын

Classic WoW is the holy trinity , (Vanilla, TBC, Wotlk). Blizzard went down a different path starting with Cata, and the world was destroyed

@MrTwisted003 Ай бұрын

I would think that Blizz would start making a habit of introducing newer features into classic servers to make them fresher... I could see them attempting to make shared rep with your alts a thing in MoP Classic, being as there are a few rep changes made, like "Friends".... this would be a good time to make classic more alt friendly. I don't know how this would work come the eventual WoD classic with garrisons, but then I could also see them completely skipping WoD all together...

@bigal6274 Ай бұрын

MoP is when I went hardest on WoW, I'm leveling characters now in anticipation. The talent system, or lack of, didn't bother me. They basically just gave you the best talents as passives.

@Mark__838 Ай бұрын

If we've been on a Legion client, is Legion the end of classic?🤔

@dfcd1432 Ай бұрын

It moved to Shadowlands client when TBC classic launched.

@Mark__838 Ай бұрын

@@dfcd1432 classic jailor confirmed

@aapoapina7390 Ай бұрын

When announced in 2011 I really thought that pandaland was april fools. 5min later I realized it was for real...

@dfcd1432 Ай бұрын

I love MoP. As much as I don't like MoP's talent system, it forced them to do something to make it work. The classes are just designed incredibly well to begin with.

@gl22222 Ай бұрын

Classic is silly at this point. Anything beyond wrath was a little excessive imo but whatever. Beyond Classic Warlords and Legion within the next few years I’d want to see Blizz shift toward this: 1. Retail. 2. Seasonal Classic Vanilla-ish 1-60 servers that cycle up through Naxxramas. 1 megaserver of each per region. Classic+: take what did and did not work in SoD plus some additional stuff from BC/Wrath. Quicker phases 1-25, 25-40, 40-60 with added/tweaked content. 60+ raiding continues as it is in SoD but then add in ZA, Karazhan and other dungeons. Add in more battlegrounds and world PvP objectives that rotate through zones similar to STV Bloodmoon. Keep everything in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms, expand into zones that aren’t used like Grim Batol, Hyjal, Uldum, Caverns of Time. There is so much space for content and keep stuff on Azeroth would keep the classic feel. Add a few more flight paths and give players and item to increase the taxi speed and it would be amazing.

@MrDARKJAK Ай бұрын

4:00 the talents are whats gonna make me say goodbye to classic, that system is flawed and they know, they should revamp it

@alex-suciu Ай бұрын

me clicking the video and I was about to comment about the title 3s into the video, well dangit! what am I supposed to comment about now 🤣🤣

@81leesmith Ай бұрын

MoP brought in more furries.

@wingsofunlimitedpepsi6817 Ай бұрын

I’m very ready to hop into mop and wod as I’ve never played them before.

@MrGhosTRideRrR Ай бұрын

You gonna enjoy mop, and I believe if you do wod you are going to enjoy wod as well because this time around the patches wont be so long in wod therefore eliminating the biggest wod problem: COntent drought

@koopk1 Ай бұрын

Definitely got my fill out of mop remix, most likely wont be playing the "classic" version.

@FantazyVideos 15 күн бұрын

Where will they even announce MoP Classic if it will happen now that they canceled Blizzcon? Just a random new on wowhead?

@boblounar 9 күн бұрын

I have to admit, as a boomy, i cant wait to have celestial alignement 😅

@seifyk Ай бұрын

If they ship with launch dailies I'm just not doing it

@treyroy755 Ай бұрын

Honestly? Best thing about MoP will be SoD being done so the devs might spend an ounce of effort on it.

@Quadromil4 Ай бұрын

People came up with a trilogy for themselves in wow. No one from Blizzard said this, but part of the community itself decided that this was so. But using the example of the classic cataclysm and previous addons, Blizzard clearly showed what the word classic means - old, the one that was once there and is now not new. You can think whatever you want, but what matters to me is how the game creators interpret the terms.

@andromidius Ай бұрын

To me 'Classic' just means everything that isn't current Retail. Which I suppose would include Dragonflight at this stage, hypothetically. I think the spirit of Classic is content that isn't fresh in our minds, and would probably consider Legion to be the most recent of the expansions that have faded somewhat from current experience. Game systems change enough over multiple expansions that they are hardly recognisable anymore. But also on a personal selfish note, Legion would be a pretty good end point for Classic as it wraps up the Burning Legion story (for the most part) that has been going since Warcraft 3 (and retroactively since the very first Warcraft: Orcs vs Humans). Ending on having Artifact weapons and defeating the Legion would be satisfying to me, but that's personal bias.

@Nyaxish Ай бұрын

to wait 15 levels wasnt that bad actually.... with the Heirlooms and the XP Elixier u can farm from that one Rare mob it was really fast.... well of course not with this time after blizzard changed it with carries xD had 2 accounts so i can carry myself in low lvl dungeons and level so fast that was just awesome

@joshua-hf7cn Ай бұрын

i miss wotlk

@mark_tramal Ай бұрын

me too

@truegeminii6030 Ай бұрын

Wrath was pretty boring ngl

@Random-yb5di Ай бұрын

@@truegeminii6030wrath was poppin

@truegeminii6030 Ай бұрын

@@Random-yb5di I mean other than raiding nothing really to do. Everyone raid logged anyways so it's just like every other expansion in that regard.

@andromidius Ай бұрын

I'll miss it in a few years. I got my fill recently. Give it a few years and I'll be fully on board for another go, probably with a different class and role.

@Bubafett890 Ай бұрын

We have like 5 more months and coming out with this!?!?!

@Xerocoo Ай бұрын

If they do MoP… it needs to renamed from classic. I think majority of the player base see Classic as Vanilla WoW, or the Classic Trilogy of Vanilla, Burning Crusade, and Wrath. Calling MoP Classic feels like calling The Force Awakens as part of the “Original Trilogy” in Star Wars terms

@despicablememe4140 Ай бұрын

I legitimately believe that they should do all expansions. Just for nostalgia i have something i love about every expansion. Yes even wod and shadowlands and playing through them again is just fun thats why private servers are so popular.

@jamie5mauser Ай бұрын

Will monks be better tanks than DK in MoP?

@Bluez2125 Ай бұрын

Great video thanks

@DJCw33zy 7 күн бұрын

We need to advocate for flex raiding in dragon soul since the population WILL die off when it hits because of the amount of hate for dragon soul!

@callesino9201 27 күн бұрын

The only thing I disliked about mop was my rogue who got the legendary bow unable to use it.

@callesino9201 27 күн бұрын

Also loved brawlers guild

@ilki9718 Ай бұрын

Since Cata, it is "World of Warcraft - Reboot", nothing "Classic about it. Cata-Reboot and MoP-Reboot

@theradhattah1435 Ай бұрын

Play an hour of era and then an hour of Cata. You will very quickly realise how far Cata is from Era. Cata is the beginning of pre modern wow. Classic= era, tbc, wotlk, modern is Cata onward, and retail is whatever the most current expansion.

@Nihilithik Ай бұрын

i cant wait for shadowlands classic

@Dalex19 Ай бұрын

2025-10-19. WOD will change Classic Forever. :). love the vid though, ty haha.

@Nihuhuhu90 Ай бұрын

well Mop is gonna make classic wow alive again since cata killed it, everything depends if they gonna release bugged expansion or not

@dysfunctionaljoe2 Ай бұрын

Classic WOW is before Activision acquired Blizzard Entertainment, and changed the focus of the game from an RPG with quests to a defacto-multiplayer first-person shooter with a focus on jumping to end game as fast as possible.

@MrGhosTRideRrR Ай бұрын

which happened when btw what xpac? was it shadowlands?

@Weavelol Ай бұрын

@@MrGhosTRideRrR Activision took over about during the end of the TBC. Their cancerous influence to the game started showing once they brought up the first store item, the Celestial Steed around late Wrath, which made more money than Starcraft 2 by itself.

@ecclesiaandune687 Ай бұрын

MoP is my favourite expansion. Pretty worried that the negative perception from its original launch, lowish numbers on MoP remix and how badly Cata has been handled thus far will not bode well for it though sadly. However with how awful WoD is, i'd be quite happy to play MoP and then finish there.

@DavidD-lz7gu Ай бұрын

Great vid

@gonnaw1n Ай бұрын

I do love Vanilla/TBC/WOTLK but for me MOP is the best expansion, I just think it had so much and the garden was a brilliant idea!

@Lakutus88 5 күн бұрын

Legion was awesome

@ujustgotpwnd3454 Ай бұрын

Did MoP bring the legacy damage for old raids? Or was that WoD?

@alexrompen805 Ай бұрын

Iirc, that was Wod or Legion

@wingsofunlimitedpepsi6817 Ай бұрын

I think it may have been WOD

@rct6518 14 күн бұрын

MoP has some cool stuff to do outside of raid but . . . I want off this ride. They simply are not putting enough effort into the "classic" side of things. It is painfully drawn out and too long imo. Cata could have been so much better this time if they actually put in the effort. I am looking forward to Ashes of Creation someday and will be looking for other genres to play long term. WoW Classic was a fun ride for a while but it is time to get off.

@druidinator923 Ай бұрын

MOP I sleep… I hope they will make somehow fresh classic or tbc in November.

@Shiirow Ай бұрын

classic is anything thats not current. classic is just another word for legacy, and legacy is anything in the past that isnt today.

@Scourgebornishere Ай бұрын

This was never what "classic" meant. Are you seriously telling me that if blizzard ever released wod or shadowlands we would consider that classic? That makes no sense. They have nothing in common with the original trilogy.

@metalcrowlerarranz9108 Ай бұрын

Classic Wow is a trilogy.

@andromidius Ай бұрын

@@keelhld94 TBH it only completed one part of Warcraft 3's story - the Scourge and Arthas.

@SarcastNik Ай бұрын

I like your take. Its all old content that means something different to everyone. The word classic is just a word for old. Classic rock when i grew up was 70s. Now Korn is 30 years old and is on classic rock stations

@metalcrowlerarranz9108 Ай бұрын

@@keelhld94 Well, there's no more skill weapon in cata, there's no budgets but points, theres only one type of gear both from 10 and 25, many classes have same buffs, talent tree works different, if you're ret paladin you cannot gear up yourself with agi from leather because plates are mandatory for you, intelect gives spelldamage... a lot of things

@sayrebonifield4663 Ай бұрын

MOP Classic is an oxymoron.

@andrewtoniolos5122 Ай бұрын

Bring back TBC

@dietcokedude Ай бұрын

MoP Hype!

@Craytonex Ай бұрын

MoP more like WoD waiting room

@ecclesiaandune687 Ай бұрын

I honestly think MOP Talent system > Talent Trees - people can cry all they want, 99% of players even in classic are copy pasting a solved talent spec from Wowhead or something, and maybe change a talent or two for a fight. People crying because they cant put 5 points into 'your corruption casts 0.25 seconds faster' honestly baffle me. At least the MoP talents offered much bigger changes between each other like Roll becoming Chi Torpedo, Alternate pets for Warlock, stuff that changes on the fly between fights

@TonyJ1776 Ай бұрын

Hot take: add some of the retail changes to Classic+. Core classes, core races, core Classic 2019 game with new instances (raids and dungeons, and DELVES! there, I said it). I want personal loot in raids and I want a raid currency like there will be in the new BRD Raid in Retail to BUY the raid items after I earn enough currency if they haven't dropped for me. Add to this some class spec changes to smooth out Prot/Ret paladin, Boomy, Res for Resto druid, etc. Take my money.

@RandomGamerCory Ай бұрын

cata sure changed everything in active player count.

@Quadromil4 Ай бұрын

Raid content becomes more difficult with each addon and now the quality of players becomes no less important than their quantity. And those people who do not go to current raids leave on their own, and this is how it should be, because there is no benefit from them. Their place is in vanilla.

@MrGhosTRideRrR Ай бұрын

Dude mop hype, I havent touched classic, last patch of cata i am leveling up 9 chars and playing the shit out of entire mists of pandaria !!! MOP HYPE

@codytackett5017 Ай бұрын

didnt this guy just say he was waiting for MoP?

@dumplingshakes22 Ай бұрын

I was told cata would change classic for the better as well and the devs did nothing with it and t11 has drug on so long most guilds are just stopping raiding till firelands because it’s so boring. Its just a raid log fest

@talmbout7779 Ай бұрын

THAT'S WHY ITS GOOD

@milosmarinkovic2853 Ай бұрын

You can expect maybe a little bit more then Cata already has. You won't get the big boom you expect. Many left already and those that left won't return for MoP like they didn't when Cata Classic came out.

@Quadromil4 Ай бұрын

Do you take into account that in addition to the loss of old players who could not adapt to difficult raids, new players came who were waiting for the cataclysm and pandaria.

@milosmarinkovic2853 Ай бұрын

@Quadromil4 when you take the amount of players that came in and that left more left then they came in for Cata so in the end it's less players then you had in Wotlk Classic. I'm on Gehenas and in Wotlk it was at its peak in population count (nearly 20k if I remember) now you have half of that number, so don't expect MoP to give you anything major because many people that like Cata will leave when MoP comes out. Best case scenario is that that you will have at least a bit more players then now, but not as much as in Wotlk.

@alcyone1985 Ай бұрын

I'd be surprised if theres even a playerbase for MoP when it comes out. Cata has what 50k players on NA still? At this point the meme "go back to retail" is very true

@Quadromil4 Ай бұрын

You are very mistaken and when this moment comes, you will see everything for yourself.

@ahetzel9054 Ай бұрын

Oh man, watching actual MoP footage makes me really really Wana play it.. I forgot how much I enjoyed that expansion

@keyblades2 Ай бұрын

I Detest. the talent changes

@dfcd1432 Ай бұрын

They're not good but they forced Blizzard to make the classes great to make them work. MoP had some of the best class design they've ever had in the game.

@Duncan94 Ай бұрын

Classic Cata is dead and Classic MoP will be beyond dead. Blizz fucked up by not giving us Classic Wrath Era.

@Quadromil4 Ай бұрын

The numbers say otherwise. People continue to play and pay a subscription.

@kevinneparidze3973 Ай бұрын

@@Quadromil4what numbers bruh bunch of high pop servers died after announcement of cata classic, i personally changed 3 different realms with free transfer thekal>earthshaker>firemaw. And it still feels dead 😂 cata is dead

@Kromush1995 Ай бұрын

@@Quadromil4 What numbers are you talking about? We don't have numbers just for Cata, only Blizz knows how many people are playing WoW Cata only.

@Duncan94 Ай бұрын

@@Quadromil4 The numbers tell me that there's 100k characters actively raiding worldwide. Down from a Wrath of the Lich King peak of 626k. Dead.

@Zachk22 Ай бұрын

Swapped over to the Warmane servers when Cata released. Wrath still has a huge player base on the private servers. I am really surprised blizzard hasn't put up a wrath server seems like they are leaving money on the table with the amount of people playing on the private servers.

@techytech3487 6 күн бұрын

Ең жақсы KZbin

How MoP Will change Classic FOREVER! It just brings soooo much!

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