EVERYTHING about Electric Tankless Water Heaters (2018)

[@johnspruit7296]

01-23. This video might be a bit dated , but i learned a lot. much appreciated. Ontario Canada .

[@scottnra]

Thank you John Spruit. It is dated overall but all of the information is still very relevant as physics never change. :-) Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@KateMcKittrick]

Hi Scott, Thanks for this tutorial. I live in a ~1400 square-foot, 2.5 bath house in the mountains of North Carolina where the groundwater is full of sediment and runs between 52 and 54°F. My house came with a titan N-180 electric tankless hot water heater (manufacturing date 5/15) that draws 75 amps on two 40 amp breakers. I replaced the well pump in 2020 after the addition of a spin down filter between the well water intake and the whole house filter failed to solve the problem of having to change the whole house filter frequently. The spin down filter seems to be doing its job (not much sediment in the whole house filter) but the hot water heater fails intermittently. I hired a plumber last week because the heater was providing lukewarm water. The titan N-180 has three elements, the first of which had a mild amount of visible external scale. The plumber reset the two thermostats, but also said they had not been tripped. For reasons the plumber didn’t understand, I had and still have hot water following this intervention. I am considering replacing the Titan with a Stiebel Eltron. The plumber gave me an estimate for a Steibel Eltron 24, which requires a minimum of two 50 amp breakers. The estimate did not mention the need for electrical work. The Steibel Eltron 20 would work with my two 40 amp breakers but, in this climate, could provide one shower at a time. It’s essentially the equivalent of the Titan and I may consider it. The other option is liquid propane (natural gas is not available here). I have some gas infrastructure in place because a previous owner installed a gas logs fireplace. According to the gas company, I would need additional infrastructure as well as venting and a 120 V outlet provided by an electrician. Also, I am aware that some states are banning new gas appliances due to environmental concerns and protecting the environment is important to me. Finally, the tech at Titan advised me to ship the heater to them in Florida for a $60 repair. That seemed very odd to me. I would appreciate your perspective. Thanks.

[@scottnra]

@user-ib6wi9yw8w well this will be a long answer lol. So as someone who is in an all propane home, with Navien LP gas tankless, I will always recommend gas tankless over electric 100% of the time! You’re asking more from that Titan than it can give without blowing its brains out every time it runs. The Steible Eltron 24 or 28 would be a better choice but you WILL have to upgrade the power. At that cost, you might as well just get your LP Company to put in a l in sightly larger tank and drop in a Navien. Rinnai has relationships with most LP companies and they are a good unit, but the Navien is better in a lot of ways. I’ll be detailing them in a later video (So subscribe! Haha) A LP tankless uses about 100 gallons of gas a year for the average family. Now about the environment concern. All of this electrification stuff is more about lining pockets of politicians. Think about this, our electricity mainly still comes from coal or gas. If we put solar panels on every inch of farmland in the US we could not power it. (and we’d all starve) All of the big solar farms in my state of VA are on…FARMLAND! (Bad idea big time) Offshore wind is killing whales although nobody wants to talk about that. (You can look that up online though about all the dead whales washing up during the winter months) The “Save the Whales” crowd are the same bunch pushing offshore wind! And don’t look up the pollution of what happens when they need maintenance or break down and dump oil in the ocean. Batteries for all these electric cars come from China and have a look at largest polluter on the planet…China. Strip-mining worldwide and killing forest and wildlife for that lithium to go into the batteries. (We’re supposed to look the other way on that too I guess) Clean burning, Low NOx gas has been the best way to power stuff and make heat and hot water for decades now, and we are the middle east of Gas! (There just is not nearly as much politician greasing for that to be attractive to them on either side of the isle.) I do hope that helps and also helps you have a look at what’s the other side of the coin for what they call electrification/decarbonization Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@la5150hi-lophoto]

Thanks you so much for explaining complicated technology in layman terms:)

[@scottnra]

You're very welcome. I'm glad you liked it and appreciate the kind words.

[@scottnra]

Glad to do it! Thanks for watching!

[@איזיבלוך]

Why don't you tell us how much electricity it uses

[@Scuba_Bro]

A 36kw from Rheem actually does a solid job in the winter here in MA… but to your point running the electrical was a huge pain in the ass. I had to run 8 gauge for each of the 4 heating elements to 4x 40 amp double pole breakers. We only have 2 bathrooms and can run both showers with it at the same time for 11 months out of the year. If you live in an area like we do where it gets cold from November to March then you’re crazy to get anything less than 36kw and ABSOLUTELY make sure it modulates! My Rheem has been doing great for us in a 2100 square foot home

[@scottnra]

Scuba Bro that's good to hear. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@Cruiser-nr3pl]

Good to know. I live in western MA and have been looking into whether a propane or electric would work best. I have a 5 room ranch with 1 bath and forced hot water for heat so thinking electric is probably what I should purchase.

[@richardflaherty2373]

Thank you for taking the time to make this video.

[@scottnra]

Richard Flaherty Thank you or taking the time to watch it! Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@kerrynewman1221]

I just installed a 13kw in my single story house in Texas. Yes I had to install 6 awg wire and a 60A breaker. For me and my wife it works perfectly.

[@scottnra]

@kerrynewman1221 They can be great is warmer climates for sure. Thanks for the comment to let others know and have a great day. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@yannisxmarkos7145]

Thank you, I learn more from you than 5 other videos I watched

[@scottnra]

Yannis XMarkos I appreciate that a lot! Glad it helped buddy. Thank you for watching. I've got some really cool stuff coming too! click the "bell" icon to get notified of new videos posted every week. You can also check out & follow the FB page for updates, suggestions, etc: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@ajent1337]

Great video! So much good info! Thank you so much! Working on my second remodel with an electric tankless in southern Missouri and trying to do it right this time. You're a huge help Scott!

[@scottnra]

Kalim C good luck, I hope it works out well for you. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@bfindy]

Thank you so much i have been researching for awhile now and everyone talks about gas. Finally someone talk about electric

[@scottnra]

bfindy There will be more on electric tankless coming to the channel this year. I have a few things in the works... Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@avandyke143]

Great information! I’m building a 2400 square-foot house out in the country which will have a 2 1/2 bathrooms and two people living in the house. I’m glad that I know now to have a conversation with the electrician before this is installed. I really don’t want to have to have propane, I want to have all electric. In addition to electrical service I’m going to have solar as well and a back up solar storage battery for the whole house.

[@scottnra]

Anne VanDyke Solar and battery storage is great, Look at Steible Eltron plus Series: amzn.to/3QPEegq Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@barrycheshier4219]

Great info for the layman! Best advice from you to me: hire a professional to size and install unit. What do you think about using a recirculating pump that can be switched on and off at point of use? Give it a minute to get the hot water to the point of use and then use the hot water. Seems like an idea that might work and save on wasted water and gas/electricity costs, too.

[@scottnra]

Those on demand systems work great. They have some that use your cold water line as a return as well. This one even has a timer on it so you can set it for your peak times and then have it not run at all. amzn.to/2KhzTUT

[@tallguy276]

thank you finally someone with real answers both ways , for an against and why . I'm looking into both gas/electric

[@scottnra]

with about 18 years selling, installing and fixing tankless water heaters, I can tell you if you can have gas...GET A GAS ONE! Preferably a Navien. That is the best one on the market today by a good measure. They are not cheap and they are not DIY, but you'll be very happy for a long time. Keep in mind I don't know you and can't make a nickel off this recommendation. Have a nice day and thank you for the comment.

[@buddiec]

I have a gas rannai 7.5i what do you think about that brand heard theybwere top of the line

[@DavidBeede]

Just FYI here in North Florida I have a well and it's 77 degrees right now in August. I think in Winter it only goes down to 72. Very helpful video.

[@scottnra]

David Beede that's about what I figured. Look at SioGreen units as well. They are very promising. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@joniloumckinster111]

I have a tankless heater for only a hand sink and one shower. Since it has gotten colder my shower isn't getting hot. The water temperature and temp. rise explained a lot. Note: It's not only guy who wanted this video. Thanks.

[@scottnra]

Joni Lou McKinster That is probably it. Many people get tricked into buying these directly to make them think they are saving money. Then the thing they didn't want to pay a contractor for does do the job and they pay even more... Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@mikep95133]

I like my Seisco. It's a 28 kw unit. Model RA-28. 4 heaters. A whole house unit. I wired it up myself. Our water is well water for our town, but it's held in 6 tanks up on the hillside before it arrives here. So the water is very warm in the summer out here in the AZ desert. Sometimes warm enough to take a shower with cold only water. The research I did on Seisco showed that their warranty response to a problem was superior to everyone else. That's my experience with them as well. Our unit is 3.7 years old and works fine. Far cheaper than propane !!

[@scottnra]

It may be cheaper than Propane there but it is reversed in other areas of the country. Siesco is a great unit for sure and thank you for telling folks here how well it's working for you.

[@mikep95133]

@@scottnra The other reason I switched off of propane was because every time there is a house fire here, it's propane related. I sure hope it's cheaper. $2.40/ gallon here without delivery fees, which are 50 cents a gallon, just seems far too high.

[@scottnra]

ours is probably about that here. But it takes less $ of gas to make hot water than electricity in my area. This is NOT true for all areas haha. I also like cooking with gas. I use about 300 gallons per year, gas range, gas fireplace, gas grill, two gas tankless, and an infrared in the garage. (A lot of it goes through the GRILL! haha)

[@mikep95133]

@@scottnra Natural gas is a lot cheaper than propane here. But we don't have gas in our town, only in the town 40 miles away. Our isolation makes propane so expensive. I love grilling with propane. That's about all I use propane for. My propane furnace eats it fast. So I went to all electric heating this past winter. Worked ok. Propane really heats well.

[@HD-ww4je]

I was wanting an electric tankless but was steering away because of the flow rate issue. Thanks to your video and explaining I can properly research for my area and see if I can pull it off for our size

[@scottnra]

Glad it helped. Stick with the Steible eltron plus series! You'll be glad you did if you go electric. amzn.to/2EyovCd

[@jenniferbmendezful]

Thank you, from Chicago. Your educational video. Saved me headache of going electric. Mucho thumbs up.

[@scottnra]

jenniferbmendezful Glad it helped! Technology will eventually catch up... Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@damiangrouse4564]

Best video I’ve seen on electric WH.

[@scottnra]

Damian Grouse Thank you! I am going to be doing an updated one soon as well to pick up the latest technology that is out for them now in a few companies. Thank you for watching. I've got some really cool stuff coming too! click the "bell" icon to get notified of new videos posted every week. You can also check out & follow the FB page for updates, suggestions, etc: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@damiangrouse4564]

Scott Gregg 👍 the next vid might be too late for me...the tank heater is developing a pin hole stain and the wife’s getting nervous. The Stiebel still your recommendation? Two bath ,3 people 24W or 29W? South Florida location. Update: bought the Stiebel Eltron 29w (had HD 10% coupon) did the plumbing install myself and paid for electric install...all in less $2k even using all “shark bite” hardware, still more than a premium tank (which is what I wanted) but the wife was really into tankless. Set at 115deg. Wife is happy again.

[@Davids_United-Fam]

Our house is a modular home and we live in KY. So it's pretty cold out right now our home is all electric no gas so I'll be makin a purchase on a higher end electric tankless water heater.

[@scottnra]

David Wildcat fam. then get one of these: amzn.to/32VhQOL That's the biggest electric tankless you can get and has the features you need for the best performance you can get. (flow control, temp control, modulating power, etc...) Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@ateamofone]

Good video and thanks. I have an electric tankless on a well in michigan. I never have a problem as long as i flush my lines with white vinegar and let is soak for a day before flushing it with water......once a year to get rid of scalding in the unit. Its simple to do and will allow your unit to perform at its best. Flushing is recommended for ALL tankless, elect or gas.

[@patgrahamwarner3073]

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[@scottnra]

ateamofone Thank you for the input! Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@00varietyshowjoe]

Thanks for the video. I'm planning out my next house and was considering buying an electric tankless, but after hearing your explanation of water temp rise, I realize that my Missouri well water is going to be far too cold for this kind of heater.

[@scottnra]

Correct! Do yourself a big favor and look into the NAvien NPE-A model GAS tankless water heaters. Even if you have to run it on LP gas, you are going to be be much more happy with it than any tank. I live in an area without natural gas. I put a 500Gal LP tank in the ground and use about 300 gallons per year. We run TWO tankless water heaters, a gas fireplace, a gas range, gas grill, and a Ir heater in the garage. Most of your gas use is from cooking and the fireplace. The average home will use about 100 gallons of LP a year for hot water...endless hot water. The Navien's SS heat exchangers will handle your temperature rise and well water just fine. I hope that helps.

[@12ozpoundcake86]

Thank you, answered many of my questions. Think I have perfect house for a electric tank-less....1.5 bath, short runs, municipal water, north west Florida and just the wife and I....now I'm down to the power panel requirements, circuit breakers and wire gauge.

[@scottnra]

Jay Grubb Yes sir, that's about as perfect as it gets. I'll be updating this one soon to pick up the latest tech info. Have a hard look at Stieble Eltron! amzn.to/2vGM8Rr Thank you for watching. I've got some really cool stuff coming too! click the "bell" icon to get notified of new videos posted every week. You can also check out & follow the FB page for updates, suggestions, etc: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@thomasrenne3507]

Nice, Miller Lite in the background. My Fave.

[@scottnra]

Tom Renne Miller should sponsor me don't you think? Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@weswaddell6911]

This is the most informative video I've seen. And easiest to understand. A must see ! Thank you so much

[@scottnra]

Thank you Wes! I really appreciate that. I'll have a couple more for Gas tankless coming soon. Thanks for watching.

[@michaelhubbard9907]

Thanks for the info. We live in Maine, which leads itself to a gas-fired unit. However, we have solar heating (vacuum tubes on the roof) that heats a 300-gallon solar tank. The well water loops through that before going to the boiler. We are now installing solar pv, so I am still leaning toward an electric tankless.

[@scottnra]

STOP! I have news for you. The Navien gas tankless water heater has a setting that is for working with solar or geo systems. It will let you feed hot water from your storage tank THROUGH the Navien, and only operate the burners if the water is not already to the set point temperature! That is your PERFECT solution and there are no other tankless water heaters on the market built to run like that. Find a local Navien Expert and have them work with your solar guy. (Plus electric tankless would be a huge draw on your PV system you don't need.!)

[@dlwhite6537]

Thanks! I have a well. I'm out. You saved me a lot of surprises and frustration. Our water is cold and i don't use low flow crap.

[@scottnra]

Oh Danny Bear Glad to help. Get a propane tank and go with a Navien! You'll thank me again later. :-) Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@brendadecker8812]

I wish that i had researched more before i bought mine. I live in michigan and have a well. I replaced my old traditional heater with a electric tankless.

[@scottnra]

@brendadecker8812 when you get tired of it, it's really hard to beat an LP gas fired Navien! go to their website and use the dealer located to find a local NSS dealer in your area. It won't be cheap, but it will be fair and good things cost money. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@lapetitemoma]

Thank you for your research. I am getting a tiny home and was wondering if this would be the way to go. However, I plan on having a well and your information has helped a lot in making up my mind.

[@scottnra]

Glad it helped and thanks for the kind words. for a Tiny home, a RV unit might be a good choice too.

[@augustodasilva268]

Very informative thank you. Up here in Canada, gas is the way to go for the reasons you have pointed out. Also the cost of electricity here would make running an electric instant water heater almost prohibitive, not even mentioning the cost to upgrade the panel.

[@scottnra]

Gas would always be my first choice as well. Thanks for watching!

[@gilbertpardee8599]

The audio for video needs work. The information shared was GREAT! Thank you for educating me how it works and the expectations.

[@scottnra]

Gilbert Pardee I actually reshot this video due to the poor audio from the first one. While this one was better, I've now upgraded the mics. Glad you found the video helpful and thank you for the comment. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@cdgarrett1]

I’m in Henrico VA on city water. I have a small 2 bedroom home to myself. The only things I use hot water for is the shower and to wash dishes. The washer I only use cold water. I’m going to upgrade to a 200 amp breaker box when I get the power run underground. The place I would mount the tankless unit would be a very short distance from both the kitchen sink and the shower, between them.

[@scottnra]

I'm in Hanover and been training plumbing contractors for years in the area. Most around here have little to no respect for electric mainly because they don't understand it. This means that finding a good installer can be a real challenge and even worse if it needs maintenance. You sound like a good candidate for it. You'll need to consult an electrician about the power. Personally I am a much bigger fan of gas but know not everyone has it available. If you have gas, Look at a smaller NAvien and overall you will be a lot happier.

[@cdgarrett1]

Scott Gregg If gas can be from a propane tank then maybe that may work but there is no gas in this community that I know of. I may also have to reconsider the location I want the heater installed. I was thinking it could be mounted inside the stud wall instead of on the surface. Plus it seems to need a separate breaker box other than the house panel box. I may have to see if it can be mounted inside, hidden in a kitchen cabinet like some smaller under the counter tank heaters are.

[@cdgarrett1]

Scott Gregg if you were offering me a job to be trained as an installer, thanks that could be a possibility if I don’t have to have certification or a license.

[@charlie2265]

The video is 6 years old. Technology has changed but this is one of the most informative videos I've seen on KZbin. Scott, you have a way of delivering hours worth of information in 15 minutes. My son, who lives in Stuart Florida (2 baths, wife and 3 daughters = high hot water requirements ) needs to replace his 50 gallon tank soon. No gas, 200 amp service. Tank or tankless considering 2024 technology? Thanks, Charlie

[@scottnra]

@charlie2265 Look into SioGreen. They are FL based and their technology is pretty cool. I wish they made one in a 28kw and 32kw unit for the cooler climates. As for the rest of them, there really has not been much in the way of advancement. They all still use high-watt-denisty elememnts. Some now have flow control like the STieble Eltron plus series seen here: amzn.to/3U2f96c I hope that helps. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@BloodyIron]

Not done watching the video, 3/4 in, but this is seriously useful info to learn about! The bubble stuff makes total sense, and I didn't even realise some electric tankless heaters don't vary the heat output per element like you described here! Dang, need to keep studying. Thanks!

[@scottnra]

Thanks BloodyIron. Glad you are finding it helpful. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@mrRoverkane]

Thank you for your knowledge. I am in Tx with hard water. Been debating tank v tankless… leaning to tank. Not sure to be honest.

[@scottnra]

@mrRoverkane to simplify it this might help. 1. Are you going to sell the house or rent it within 10 years? no is good for tankless yes, get another tank. 2. Do you need more hot water than you currently are getting? no=tank Yes Tankless 3. Do you have the extra money to spend on the upgrade? No= tank yes=tankless 4. is your tank in a spot where it can flood the house if it ruptures? No = tank yes= Tankless I hope that helps. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@mrRoverkane]

@@scottnra that helped tremendously. I truly appreciate your feedback

[@aljet8699]

very professional presentation, i live in Canada you answered my questions

[@scottnra]

Thanks al jet and thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@TheStormrayn]

This video explained so much more than others. Thanks alot for all this knowledge....

[@scottnra]

D Grant I'm glad it helped. I'll be doing an update to this one as well when I can fit it in. Technology has advanced a lot in the last few years with tankless in general. Thank you for watching. I've got some really cool stuff coming too! click the "bell" icon to get notified of new videos posted every week. You can also check out & follow the FB page for updates, suggestions, etc: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@scottnra]

Don't forget to look at the Stieble Eltrons! amzn.to/2vGM8Rr

[@bobt2522]

Nice video. One complication with well water is that the flow rate is constantly changing as the pressure tank fills and drains. The water heater must constantly hunt for the right power level. My water heater does not slam on and off, but when it is running, I can hear the utility's transformer humming.

[@scottnra]

Bob T252 On some well systems you are right of course. A bigger tank, better pump, etc can help. I've never noticed that on my house but of course I have gas tankless here. Thank you for watching. I've got some really cool stuff coming too! click the "bell" icon to get notified of new videos posted every week. You can also check out & follow the FB page for updates, suggestions, etc: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@bobt2522]

@@scottnra I'm being picky, but if you have a pressure tank, the flow is going to vary as the pressure cycles between the high and low setpoints on your pressure switch. I noticed the variation years ago when I watched my lawn sprinkler.

[@awesomeaustin2348]

I didn't even know they made Tankless electric water heaters, Thanks...

[@scottnra]

Oh yeah and they have their place for sure. Thanks for watching.

[@paulsullivanrealestate]

Great tutorial, Scott. Thank you. I am in New England and was deciding between On-demand electric or hybrid. You got me off the fence. Hybrid it is. I subscribed to your channel. Thank you.

[@scottnra]

Thanks man. Sounds like a good decision. If you can get gas of any kind get a NAVIEN installed! They are amazing units.

[@erwinbordallo]

Hi Scott! You should be an instructor! I live in a tropical climate and am installing an 18kW tankless electric water heater. Because this unit is not within sight of the Circuit Breaker panel, Irealize I need to provide a disconnect safety switch. My understanding for installation purposes on these type of units is that each heating element will require (1) 2-pole breaker for every heating element the unit has. If you have (1) heating element, you'll need (1) 2-pole breaker... If you have (3) heating elements, you need (3) 2-pole breakers, etc... Now, if you need to install a disconnect safety switch inbetween your breaker panel and your tankless electric water heater and say for simplicity, you have a (2) element tankless water heater, you will need a 4-pole single-throw diconnect swtich, right? The NEC says that all ungrounded cunductors shall make/break their respective connections SIMULTANEOUSLY. Therefore, having (2) separate 2-pole disconnect safety switches will not satisfy the SIMULTANEOUS make/break requirement. How is everyone getting around this dilema? You can find a 4-pole disconnect switch, but it won't be a light/general duty unit. The only ones I could find were of the Heavy Duty NEMA 3R type costing around $1500+ (Three times the cost of the water heater). The only alternative I see is installing a subpanel near the breaker and having your (2) 2-pole breakers contained within. Of course, you'll have to install an 80-100A branch feeder breaker as well as increase your wire capacity size to feeder sizes. How would you handle this? No one seems to want to answer this question leading me to believe the subpanel is the only feasible and practical way to go. Thanks for ANY input you can provide me.

[@scottnra]

Erwin Bordallo That's too much for me. I'm not an electrician. But I am actually and instructor and have been for 3 major brands over the last 20 years. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@brois841]

Scott, excellent info!! I live in S. Florida, my house is large, however I have two 200 amp service/panels, two hot water heaters, etc. I'm looking to replace one of the hot water heaters in my garage (50-gal) with a tankless electric.I know you're a fan of Stiebel but curious which size to get. This heater has the following attached to it: two kitchen sinks, HE dishwasher, bar sink, outdoor sink, a single bathroom (w/shower, but rarely used, as it's a second guest bathroom), a laundry sink, and a clothes washer. Sounds like a lot, but it's rare any of those are used simultaneously and we don't use much hot water. Thanks again!!

[@scottnra]

BROis in your area I think I'd do a 20kw amzn.to/2JJ7iZu THat should be plenty for what you laid out. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@jimlycett4480]

The best education I have found thank you. Here is my situation. N. Fla. Two water heaters. One services only one bathroom, the other a bathroom and kitchen. Older home where using one heater is not an option. Bathroom is space challenged and old home has a 16 inch diameter tank heater which cannot be purchased anymore. Bottom line, what do you recommend for the electric tankless heater in bathroom? I want the best you can recommend. Model, size, kw, and gpm. Thank you so much for your advice.

[@scottnra]

According to their charts, the Tempra 12 plus would be a minimum. This is the best electric I know if and the only one I would trust as of this time. A size up wouldn't hurt, but I doubt you'd need it there: amzn.to/2PNHLyg

[@grosoulietipie]

Lots of info. Precice and to the point. Thanks.

[@scottnra]

Thanks for watching, I'm glad it helped

[@drgeatman]

7000' in mts of NM , snow from late Nov. through april . Bosch US 7 ( 7 KW) run hot water great just got to get use on modulating flow rate to get desired temp, of course low flow shower head , and all water appliances on one wall, inlet water 50 deg +/- 4 . easily up to 95 deg.

[@scottnra]

That's cool. Thank for the input. You obviously get it and you know you have to control the flow so it does not over run what the heater can do. Believe it or not, most people have no idea about that. This is why I recommend the higher amp units and flow control built in.

[@winthorpe6594]

Great information Scott, TYVM. What about "point of use" electric units? Say one per bath, one for laundry, one for kitchen? Tks

[@scottnra]

Winthorpe Good Question. By the time you pay for the units and all the new electrical work, you could have paid less for a propane unit for the whole house that would do a better job, and be easier to service. The main brands like Navien have local parts and trained service people. If you put something in that nobody knows how to or wants to work on, it's going to cost you later to replace them instead of fix them. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@johng4210]

Thanks for your concise information. I am looking at heating water for single shower and lav . thinking about Seisco RA-14 or Stiebel Eltron 230628. would appreciate your input. ground water temp in my area 67 deg

[@scottnra]

Hi John, Just from a support and service standpoint I'd go with the Stiebel Eltron but get a PLUS series. While that temp is pretty good, I don't know where you are but would rather go a bit more than not enough and the Plus" part of flow control is well worth a little extra upfront cost.

[@dianabenobo]

This cycle of sound frequencies seemed to temporarily relieve my tinnitus!

[@scottnra]

Ben Obo well that is interesting! Never heard that before. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@EZ-D-FIANT]

Thank you I learnt loads of what I needed to know from this video....👍👌👍 I'm going for a steibel Elton 20kw ish, I'm in UKland it seems our model no's are different to yours kinda confusing but ill work it out, I want to eliminate gas as I want to run solar panels and a wind turbine to power my small (2 sinks, bath + shower, but I do have a full workshop) home in an attempt to reduce/eliminate monthly bills, I know your gonna say use gas but I really want to eliminate those monthlies, anyway I choose my heater brand/size with help from you and just wanted to say thank you again.....👍👌👍

[@scottnra]

@ezdfiantno problem and glad to help! Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@EZ-D-FIANT]

@@scottnra thanks again, I did have a further question while I have your attention, I am in a hard water area, due to costs (I'm not rich, I can do plumbing but need a sparky to wire too, were without any hot water atm) I was wondering if you think the tankless water heater I choose would be OK for a month or two without a hard water filter (thats going to cost me another £1200 apparently) and if i can then flush the heater before I fit the filter, or if you know of a cheap home fit filter or something? Thanks again I'll find your Facebook channel and tell my friends for sure....

[@GamingSinceGaming]

hey scott, you have a recommendation in 2019? i've got a small 4 bedroom 2 bath house in sacramento, california. in the colder months (january to march ) the average temperature is 62° in the day, 44° at night

[@scottnra]

Check out this one. If your panel can take it, it should do great: amzn.to/2LDIb8s

[@JosephSprowls]

I live in Central Florida and on public water service. My household needs are for two baths and a wife who does laundry incessantly. Looking at replacing my 17 year old electric tank system but want to know which tankless system will work best for our demand level. Can you help out here? Great video, now I know enough about tankless system to do a cost comparison.

[@scottnra]

Joseph Sprowls Your timing is very good. I am about to have a serious look at a FL based electric tankless company that has my attention. SioGreen tankless does not use a high watt density element. (One of the biggest failure points of any electric tank or tankless.) I've talked to them, looked into their product and about 90% of the way to saying this is the future of electric tankless. Look them up! (and come back here in a month or two for more details.) Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@kmaia7120]

Good video man!

[@scottnra]

Thanks K! I appreciate it!

[@shafiahshaban3874]

Thank you very much for this. Very helpful!

[@scottnra]

Glad to help!

[@10p6]

Interesting info. Do you know if Rheem 18K offer Modulated power and or controlled flow rate?

[@scottnra]

10p6 I don't think so. Get the Stieble Eltron one. amzn.to/38JyEIo Much better unit. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@10p6]

@@scottnra I am interested in the Stieble one. The Rheem does modulate power but does not modulate water flow which sucks. I know I can get flow restrictors, but here in the north the water temp changes drastically from winter to summer, so I do not want a permanent device which will then impede me in winter. Keep up the videos :-)

[@stevemartin4161]

Great information. Now that is is 2021, what are the 2 or 3 products you would suggest that have the vented chamber and that modulate the power. 1700sf house. 2 baths 60degree water coming in. Thanks

[@scottnra]

Steve Martin yes but you're not going to like it...GAS! Put in a Navien even if you need to go LP. You are going to be better off and money ahead. If you absolutely are stuck on electric, better go with the This one. amzn.to/3yxsVkb Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@osharedayz3762]

Thank you Mr. Scott Greg; this was a very awesome & clear vid.!

[@scottnra]

Oshare Dayz Thank you for the kind words sir! Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@TheSmileyTek]

Thanks for the info. I'm determined to do this myself because I need this to happen asap, to be honest.

[@scottnra]

Smiley TeK Do it yourself fast and have it fixed later IF it doesn't burn down the house, or all a contractor experienced with these things and get it done in a few days correctly. I can't make any money off you. But I've way too many dangerous DIY installs. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@TheSmileyTek]

@@scottnra Done. It took me 10 hours lol. So far so good. Cheers.

[@gregsfishn]

Hello I recently had a rheem rtex 18 installed in my home and the unit works very well 2 showers no promblem at 112 degrees, my only issue is my lights flickering almost the whole time hot waters on. I was wondering if you think the Steibel Tempra 20 plus maybe a better option in this case and help the lights not continuously flicker while hot waters running?

[@scottnra]

Tempura modulates power better. Not knowing your house wiring it's hard to say but it should not do that. amzn.to/2PelDNr

[@tomwillis1264]

This video taught me a lot. Thank you.

[@scottnra]

Glad to help!

[@vap0rtranz]

Beer before show! :) great info Scott, ty

[@scottnra]

Thanks man I appreciate it a lot! Thanks for watching. You can check out & follow the FB page for updates, suggestions, etc: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/

[@aaroncasil5751]

Scott thank you so much for the informative video and for the time that you put in it. It was on pint and answered lots of questions that I had. HOWEVER...... we just recently bought a house northern Nevada. Incorporated was two gas tankless water heater that served the entire three story. Mother in law occupies third floor master bath and bedroom. She has been complaining that hot water is not hot enough. With that said ... we are now renovating the master bath I see it as an opportunity to dedicate an electric tankless water heater for her. One shower head and 51 gallon bath tub. My question Scott is there any benefit to run existing hot water supply line to inlet of tankless heater? Haven’t found a heater yet in process though and doing my homework as well. I’m an electrical contractor and we will be hiring a plumbing contractor. Well water is as you said 45° F out of the tap. Out of the hot water tap we’re looking at 114° not hot enough for Mother in law. What is your take on this? I would be greatly appreciated for a little more of your time.

[@scottnra]

Aaron Casil What temperature are your tankless water heaters set at? There is not a human on this planet that can actually shower at 114/115. If you filled the tub with 114* water it would kill her. (Seriously) I think your issue might well be an adjustment on the shower valve. They have a scald guard behind the handle (if single handle) that allows you set the mix temp hotter! If single handle pope off the cap and look for a plastic piece with geared edges. Remove the screw, adjust the selector to a hotter position and put it back together. Let's start there first. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@aaroncasil5751]

@@scottnra once again Scott thank you for your time and I totally agree with you. Can you mention that to my “mother-in-law”. Lol.

[@sputnik4216]

Thanks for steering me away from tankless units!

[@scottnra]

@sputnik4216 GO GAS! An LP unit is a way better way to go man. I'm about to replace my 16 year old Rinnai units with the New Navien's here at the house and they are on LP gas. NO WAY will ever have an all electric home again. haha I'll have videos on the new ones coming soon so be sure to subscribe! Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@racehemi426425]

I have an Eco Smart. It has three heater elements. I get spikes of hot water as if the unit is not working correctly most of the time

[@scottnra]

racehemi426425 I really don't much about the ecosmart. What I've seen on them for our area wasn't very impressive. you might want to give them a call or your installer to figure that out. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@racehemi426425]

Do you have a tankless electric water heater that you would recommend?

[@mikeryan6277]

Good vid, I get the concerns about flow and understand that most shower heads deliver around 1.5 gpm so in the south ( Florida ) these will do well in a 2 bath home but how would it do in the same home as far as filling a Garden style tub? Way more flow from a tub spout vs a Shower head.

[@scottnra]

@mikeryan6277 In FL you can do a lot more with electrics than the northern tier states. Have a hard look at SioGreen. They are a FL based company and show a lot of promise in the electric market. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@rick4723]

thank you for the info. towards the end you talked about radiant floor heating. i'm thinking about getting an electric tankless (3 people in household with 3 bathrooms) to also heat up my floors. did i understand that correctly? that you can also use the eletric tankless water heater to provide a radiant heat source for the floors?

[@scottnra]

@rick4723 Not at the same time, and not and actually tankless water heater. There are units specifically designed and rated as heating units. Those would be fine. You DO NOT want to mix the water from flor heat and drinking water! ...ever Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@inksplatter1]

Thank you for this video! I had no idea about some models not varying the amount of energy needed, and just snapping on full - that sounds like a power drain! My husband and I just moved into a 1 bath, 810sqft house in DC, and have a 30 year old gas tank water heater that I know is going to go any day. We need to upgrade the electric panel anyway, and I'm debating between an electric tankless and a wall mounted, 30 gallon electric tank water heater to give us room back in the kitchen. If you're still answering questions, would the small tank or the tankless use less energy? I want to get everything off gas.

[@scottnra]

@inksplatter1 Do yourself a favor and look at the Navien GAS Tankless. It is going to be a much better solution! Talk to Nugent & Son's, or Tankless Concepts. You'll be glad you did. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@jzlanier2092]

I'm going to utilize one for my backyard kitchen sink. do you have a small one you would recommend . Im in a hot part of southern California and would really just be using it for the backyard kitchen. thnks

[@scottnra]

jz lanier you can get small point of use ones like this that should do well for you: amzn.to/2RXNJgN Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@macduggles]

Great video. We have a 16 year old 30 gallon electric Rheem tank water heater in very good and well maintained condition. However, the home insurance company says we must upgrade the water heater to maintain coverage. However, the utility closet is too small for todays water heaters because the manufacturers, in order to meet the new federal standards set in 2014, haven’t made a 30 gallon water heater small enough to fit. So we have to go to a electric tankless water heater. How many kW does a tankless water heater require?

[@scottnra]

It is going to depend on your area and number of baths in your house. Most likely 28kw or greater! If you are in the deep south, that's fine, if you are in a colder climate you need to look into propane gas tankless units like the Navien. You will be much better off in the long run. If you have to go electric, get one of these in the proper size: amzn.to/35iCry2

[@michaelmims1715]

Ok, need a little help. I have an existing A.O. Smith EC 66 920 72 Gal. Electric Hot Water Heater. Would like to replace it with a tankless system. This existing water heater mostly serves the Master Suite area of the house. The fixtures fed from this heater are; Master Bath: Ondine Shower system with Shower head-Shower Wand-3 Body Spray Jets, His sink, Her sink, Jacuzzi Tub; Guest Bath: Sink, Media Room Bar: Cup-sink. The Bar cup-sink and Guest Bath sink are sparingly used. At the Master Bath, it would be fairly rare that the Jacuzzi would be used at the same time as the shower, but it is possible that the shower would be in use at the same time as at least 2 sink. So that's what I'm holding as critical. I live in the Midwest, ground water temp charted at 52 Degrees yielding a water temp rise of 58-60 Degrees to 110. What size and or type of electric tankless water heater/system do I need or would you recommend?

[@scottnra]

Michael Mims non. you are going to need to go to a gas unit for that kind of flow rate. Even an LP one is going to save you a TON over any electric anything. Look at a Navien NPE-240A through a local dealer...or stick with the electric tank... Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@michaelmims1715]

@@scottnra Ok, Thanks. But it would have to be electrical due to the location. There's no ability to vent a gas unit. Thanks

[@megmeg9461]

Thanks for all the information! I’m thinking of switching to tankless, need to check my panel first! I have a two bath 1300 sqft house in south Florida on well system. Do you think a tankless will work?

[@scottnra]

I know it will work great! In FL you have pretty warm incoming water and one of these should do a great job. If you have the panel for it, get a 28kw model, if not, this should work well unless you have the need to run a LOT of showers at once. amzn.to/374SCKu

[@jeremynewman6842]

You're the man! I am building a small guest house 800sf with 1.5 baths. We only have 150 amp panel and will be using a mini split system for AC. What are your thoughts on the size unit I need? My guess is that some of my kids will be in and out of the house intermittently.

[@scottnra]

Jeremy Newman You'll need to consult your electrician first on that pannel. I highly doubt a 150amp pannel will be able to handle it BUT I don't know what part of the country you are building this in and that matters too. 1.5 bath I still would not go under a 24KW unless you are really south, and would do a 28kw if you are further north. And stick to the plus series Stiebel Eltron units. Their flow control makes the difference. amzn.to/3rbhBa2 Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@LenRam0416]

Thanks for the information. Helped out

[@scottnra]

Glad to help.

[@annieuzer2568]

we're in FL. Your comment on radiant heat caught my attention. MORE heat in the house is unwelcome. Also- if outdoors, it will be like 96 degrees typical so the heater has less work to do. So would an outside-installation be better for us?

[@scottnra]

Annie Uzer Most electric tankless are not rated for outside installations. The unit itself puts off little to no heat... ever. unlike a tank. For gas units, an outdoor installation is very popular down there due to eliminating the cost of venting and also freeing up even more space! Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@ambientnature862]

Hi. Great video. My wife and I live in a small brick ranch 1500 sq ft approx...with a well in Northeast Ohio. average ground temp looks to be around 52ish. I was thinking of going with the Steibel 36 plus electric but now I'm not sure after your video. I would appreciate your thoughts. we have lower flow fixtures and although we have 2 bathrooms we only use the one. Thank you.

[@scottnra]

@ambientnature862 Well keep in mind that you are not showering with straight hot water. Also remember you'll need the panel capacity to run a 36kw unit. I would recommend a Propane Navien if at all possible. It's going to do a much better job with a lot less hassle. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@ambientnature862]

@@scottnra thanks

[@mmontgomery7069]

Take it from a licensed electrician.....if your breaker panel has enough spaces available, just add a 2 pole 100 amp breaker and install #2 SER cable (available at all local electrical supply stores). It'll have 1 black, 1 red, 1 white, 1 bare aluminum conductors in it. It'll save time trying to determine what you need for the tankless. Install a 125 amp 6 space main lug panel next to the unit. You're likely to need all 6 spaces to wire in the circuits to feed power to the tankless. Most of the ones I've hooked up required (3) 40 amp circuits for normal operation.

[@scottnra]

I always recommend hiring a licensed and insured LOCAL electrician to do that work. What if their breaker panel has enough space but is already at or over it's capacity? You can install a 100 amp breaker and run a 120 amp unit off of it through a sub panel? 99% of DIY'er have no business in their electrical panel in my opinion. Seems like a great way to help people burn down their house and void their homeowners policy... Please folks hire a local pro for that stuff or just don't do it at all.

[@TX_BoomSlang]

@@scottnra That's the best advice you consistently provide. Never take initiative if you don't know what you're doing.

[@mitchellgourley3653]

I live in Central Illinois and what I did is took a whole hot water tank and let the water from the city come into it first and then flow into my tankless which saves a ton of money

[@scottnra]

Assuming that tank is powered, that is the same thing as the Supercharger from Seisco. It's a small electric after a tank that acts as a booster for when the tank starts losing temperature.

[@christianleva4849]

Great video!I have a question for you. Can these heaters run continuously? Say 4-6 hours? Thanks

[@scottnra]

Christian Leva sure... but its going to cost you in energy. check out the Steible Eltron model like this one: amzn.to/3wIYbwY Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@robertpurcell9458]

Excellent You explained it very well I subscribed 🇨🇦

[@scottnra]

Thank you robert, I appreciate you watching. Thanks for the kind words and have a great weekend,

[@annamarielloyd]

Very informative video. I, however, have purchased a 110v tankless point of use hot water heater and can't get it to work properly. We've even tapped into the hot water for the inlet to see if that made a difference as well. I just need it to work until the big tank reaches the other end of the house. Any clue what I may have done wrong? It's as though it's not even there.

[@scottnra]

Anna Lloyd 110V is not enough power to raise any decent flow noticeably. Classic case of manufacturer's overselling their products to consumers who don't know any better and are afraid to call a professional plumber. I know what you are trying to do. You'd be better off with a Grundfoss comfort system like this: amzn.to/37qTsUE Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@annamarielloyd]

@@scottnra I will definitely look into this! Thank you!!!

[@THE_MAVRECK]

we live in NE michigan (hillman area)...1 shower 1 kitchen sink...etc. and a 40 gallon and 20 gallon bladder tank on a really deep well system and 150 amp panel and have brand new 60 gallon well-xtrol waiting to be installed and thinking 13kw eemax and we have a 1.8gpm shower head by waterpik and our inlet temp is around 55 degrees will this setup work or do i need to go bigger KW and watt part of central VA....i grew up in RVA (henrico,hanover,and king william) b4 i got suckered into this colder climate by the wife (LOL) and love THE OBX also.

[@scottnra]

Johnnie Russell With a 150 amp panel I think you are stuck. You'd be better off investing in an LP tank and putting in a NAvien Gas unit instead of upgrading and going through the electrical hassel of an electric tankless up there. LP is cheaper to run than electricity in almost every area. Thank you for watching. I've got some really cool stuff coming too! click the "bell" icon to get notified of new videos posted every week. You can also check out & follow the FB page for updates, suggestions, etc: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@anthonyhettinger9702]

I had one for radiant heat in my shop and the electric bill went from 100 to 600 in a month lol. Micro bubbles caused mine to pop a water line after it set few hours afte use

[@scottnra]

@anthonyhettinger9702 yeah, electric BTU/h is a lot more costly than gas! That's what all of these "electrification" and "decarbonization" people are about to find out! Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@paulakelly9244]

Is there a good electric unit that will work well in a 30 Amp RV in Oregon? I'm in a park with 30 Amp hookups. It is needed mainly for quick showers. Thank you for a great video!

[@scottnra]

I seriously doubt it. Out there you'd probably be close to 30 amps just in the water heater.

[@allie675]

thanks for that awesome info I have an oil boiler with an indirect 40 gallon tank and just this a few months ago my water is not always hot when taking a shower or using the sink I called my oil company they came out raised the water temp but still have cold water sometimes what can I do to correct this

[@scottnra]

Can't tell without being there to check it all out but your oil company should have done more than just turn up the T-stat! a 40 gallon indirect should be able to give you hot water at all times and plenty of it. Probably a control problem. I'd give them a call and ask them why they charged you to turn up a thermostat instead of fixing the problem. Ask them to please send a tech out that knows what he is doing so you don't have to call another oil company. Oil companies can't lose customers.

[@WMeffaMike]

Hi, great video. We live in Plymouth Mass with well water feed. Inlet temp today is about 52 (don't kow what it would be in winter). Currently we have hot water that is heated through a coil in our oil furnace. We have a one bath house and have upgraded to 200 amp service. Have seen good reviews, including your video, on the Steibel Eltron electric heater. We don't have gas as an option so limited to electric. What size would you rec? Thanks, Mike and Maria Plymouth, MA

[@scottnra]

@mikea7350 I'd go the biggest you can given that water temp up there. The 36 here is as big as they come: amzn.to/3Jy3i9R You'll need some electrical work to power it correctly. You can also look at converting to a Navien Combi boiler on LP and ditching the oil all together to do both heating and domestic hot water. By the time you do the electric upgrades for the electric tankless and factor in your oil savings, I think you'll be money ahead! Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@timothymalte6363]

Hi Scott, I learned so much watching your video. Thank you. My gas tank in Las Vegas just broke down. I started solar a few months ago. It seems it would make sense to switch to electric tankless. Would you agree? Is there any new technology we should know about? Are you still recommending the Stiebel Eltron?

[@scottnra]

@timothymalte6363 As much as any of them for now. I expect to start seeing some advances any day now but technology can't change physics. It is always going to take a certain amount of KWs to heat water. That will be unchanging. The advances I'd want to see are in durability. I still think these are only going to be great for southern climates with warmer incoming water temps. If you are in southern CA you'll be fine. I still like the stieble eltron plus series like this one: amzn.to/4cCwJnT Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@justgivemethetruth]

You mentioned heating. I'm wondering if there is any system that will take an electric heater and use it as the driver for say a small house with 4-5 small baseboard type heaters? If so how small and unobtrusive could those heaters be and how do you design them? What kind of pumps would be required, activated how and how noisy? I have to admit the first videoI saw where the universal answer was don't do it yourself, your videos are full of good information. Thanks.

[@scottnra]

Definitely doable, but would take more than I can get into here. Everything to make that work already exists. It would have to be put together by someone that understands hydronics but it a simple HW Baseboard job with a Simple heat source. not a big deal Pumps are silent, relays click, Baseboard sometimes has expansion noise. No big deal. My thing about don't DIY it is simply because 99 out of 100 Homeowners (HOs) think they are better than they are and do about half of their homework before making a real disaster. I have seen a few HO jobs that were actually PERFECT! (but they are the exception not the rule.) The rest just b!tch about contractor pricing, screw up the works and then b!tch more when they have to pay someone to tear it all out and start over haha.

[@mjr2470]

I trust this guy! He drinks miller light and likes to fish! I think im going to a propane one. im in the pa laural highlands. It gets a little cold, not too bad but im sure my water in the winter is in the 40's (un tested) i use oil hot water heat and domestic hot water so that runs all year long...i live with my wife and a bunch of girls (kids) i need to convert my hot water system.

[@scottnra]

mike boxler OK I can't make a dime off you right? Go to Navien's Website. Call one of the NSS Navien Dealers in your area, and look at the new NCB-H units! (The next generation of the NCB-E) It's a combi and will replace that crappy oil boiler AND provide endless hot water. You'll save a TON, your house won't stink, and you won't be running a big heat producing boiler in the summer to make hot water so you save a TON on AC too! Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@mjr2470]

@@scottnra Thank you buddy, i will take a look.

[@patrickgatti1767]

Hello Scott, this video is awesome, very informative! At about the 8 minute mark, you explain the difference between the element firing at full 30 amp verses 1 amp based on demand. I called Seisco, they were bought by AO Smith. I called Stiebel Eltron, the sales rep wasn’t able to confirm the model with the modulating current. Do you happen to know the model that has modulating current? I’m looking at a 24KW. Thanks again for the cool video!

[@scottnra]

Patrick Gatti Yep, the Stieble Eltron Plus series is what you want. It has both mod power AND FLOW CONTROL! Check it out:amzn.to/2CoJ2bB Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@GirdHerd]

I'm getting ready to install a Rheem RTEX-13 in my poolhouse (one shower about 8 feet from the water heater). I was surprised to see that the unit doesn't have a neutral wire connection. Just to confirm, I hook up just the 2 hot legs (red & black, 6awg) to the unit and circuit breaker and abandon the neutral (white) wire, correct?

[@scottnra]

No idea about that one. The instal manually should give you what you need to know. I still don't think these machines are DIY friendly. Saving a few bucks isn't worth burning down the house.

[@GirdHerd]

@@scottnra - I have confirmed through several sources that there is no neutral on 240vac for water heaters. Just two hots and a ground.

[@tombowen7064]

Great info. I'm looking at the ECO 27. We have a small house with well water, constant 57 decree temp. Would probably only use a shower and washing machine at the same time. We have a ECO 18 in an apartment above our garage and we have to set it at 130 degree for the shower to work well. Any advise would be great. Thanks

[@scottnra]

I will always advise a Stiebel Eltron Plus series until something comes out as good or better for electric. The Plus series controls flow like the gas models so there is never any chance oat overshooting it. Also parts should be a lot easier to get and the company has been around a very long time. You can get them in all capacities as well. Have a look: amzn.to/3cqRWlF

[@tombowen7064]

@@scottnra Thanks, further research proves you are correct. I returned the ECO today and ordered the Eltron plus 29. Thanks again.

[@robinford2385]

Great information. I am considering installing one in my hunting cabin which has one shower and a kitchen sink in central Texas. Two general questions: 1. we turn off the electricity when not there. would that adversely affect the heater? 2. It could possibly freeze sometimes when we are not there, would we need to drain the tank? Would that adversely affect it?

[@scottnra]

Robin Ford Leave the power on. There is little to no standby loss on these. Unless you drain it, and then, yes power off FIRST! We should be having some pretty big electric tankless info coming soon. Researching a new product now. If it's "All That" you'll hear about it here. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@marvinrayweast]

Great video, hit lots of points. I am in the south and am in the market for an electric tankless. It will provide hot water to one full bath, it was an add on. Still have the original 50 gallon tank for the rest of the house. I will get a pro to run new wire from the breaker box to the unit, but will do the install my self. Can you recommend a unit that will give me a break. I am old and really do not know how many hot water heaters I have changed over the years. I like the idea of slowly adding load to the coils, that is bound to add longevity to the unit. My breaker box has the usual 30 amp double pole to the tank now. thanks marvin

[@scottnra]

Best bang for the buck is going to be a Steible Eltron plus unit. depending on "how south" you might be able to get away with the 24kw here: amzn.to/33Y2N3z (Decent price too)

[@michaelmosher6361]

Thanks for the great video. Currently looking at going tankless but no sure if it will work for me. Live in Phoenix area, so only really have to worry during the winter, in a larger two bathroom house. My wife and I like to take longer hot showers with not so efficient water jets, as well as using a larger bath tub (currently an issue as the water heater starts to run out before filled). Have heard mixed reviews on electric tankless units but we do not have gas in our area. Do you feel an electric tankless unit would work?

[@scottnra]

In your area, I think it work just fine. I'd still get a big 36KW model if you can. Might need some electrical upgrades, might not but it will give you a lot of hot water with your normal incoming water temps. This is about the best you can get in electrical Tankless: amzn.to/2U86620

[@susanthomson8417]

Get video. Thanks. I am just starting to shop for electric hot water heater replacement for 2 bath condo in FL. Don't have gas to unit. Will one of these electric tankless fill my standard bath tub with hot water?

[@scottnra]

ep, Easily, especially down there. I'd still recommend a 100amp unit or better though. The Stiebel Eltron Plus series also ave the flow control you'll need to ensure you can't "overshoot" the capacity! Like this one: amzn.to/33vwp78

[@edraichavez5046]

quik question I need one to heat a baptismal pool with one will you recommend ? is not an every day use

[@scottnra]

Edrai Chavez If at all possible go with a gas Navien! Depending on your location it might not get great flow if you go electric. If you must go electric use this one: amzn.to/3tYwBdz Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@farenlindsey1575]

I’m in northern Missouri. Need to run two showers at the same time in the evening. What type might you recommend that has the venting to avoid element burn out?

[@scottnra]

Faren Lindsey I would go with the Tempura+ always for an electric tankless application. You are going to need one with plenty of power for most of the year. This one should do a great job. Look at the 42* sizing chart on the Amazon page: amzn.to/3j3dnvR Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@edwardcrandell-wpmabe8819]

What about instant heat using a Circulation Pump and those Thermal Bypass valves any luck with those on an Electric Tankless?

[@scottnra]

Edward Crandell - WPMABE I suppose you could but you'd want it set up as an "on demand" type system to keep from running your electric bill up. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@fondy44]

Is it necessary for exterior-mounted gas tankless to have some sort of wind break? I'm a little concerned about pipes freezing when not in use here in western VA.

[@scottnra]

Paul Allen I would not recommend an outdoor tankless in Western VA period. The first thing to go in a snow or ice storm is power and your unit WILL FREEZE. Also, the pipes will freeze. People insulate the pipe cover kits thinking this will stop freezing but it only slows it down a bit. Yes you can add a freeze protection kit to the piping, and it will work great...until it doesn't. Then your pipes freeze anyway. Freeze damage is also not covered under any warranty. Get an indoor unit installed. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@tomwright3390]

Well explained - thanks!

[@scottnra]

Tom Wright I'm glad you liked it! I'm looking at a new kind of electric tankless now that looks very promising. It doesn't change the physics of anything but does change hot the hear is transferred into the water. Stay tuned.... Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@RajGiandeep]

Thank you for this video! I think this would be a good use case for a dome home or yurt. Never thought about a radiant floor heat in a yurt or dome home (36' to 40'). I'll have to do some research on this. Do electric tankless water heaters, need any maintenance ?

[@scottnra]

Tosh / Raj Giandeep Most models will have elements that may need replacing like a tank. If you have hard water, you may also want to descale it periodically. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@nelsoncaraballo9446]

Hello Scott. We are in New England. One shower. One sink. We do have a GAS tankless but it takes too long for hot water to get to second floor. We are thinking of having electric for just one bathroom. Is this OK? Great video. Thank you.

[@scottnra]

Nelson Caraballo we yes but there is a better way. If it's a navien A model, you can add the Navi Circ device under the sink in that room, have the installer slightly modify the water piping at the unit and solve the problem. You may also be able to add a Grunfos comfort circ system to what you already have to do the same thing. It just cost a bit more because of the pump. Both work, both will be cheaper than the tankless and be a better solution for you. amzn.to/3eBJhkd Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on KZbin. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/

[@nelsoncaraballo9446]

Thank you for the reply Scott. At the moment we have whole house natural gas tankless hot water heater IN basement. Wife doesn't like how much water gets wasted waiting for it to heat up. Thank you again.

[@nelsoncaraballo9446]

Thank you for update. Will pass suggestions to contractor. We think we got one?