Scottsdale Mayor says Arizona Coyotes AREN'T welcome to new arena

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SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. - Scottsdale Mayor David Ortega is telling the Arizona Coyotes that the team is not welcome to bring their proposed arena to the northern edge of Scottsdale.
The NHL team is eying a 95-acre parcel of state-owned land near Scottsdale Road and Loop 101 that sits within the Phoenix city limits. The minimum sale price for the land has been estimated to be $68.5 million.
Original reporting: www.12news.com/article/sports...
In an editorial released Monday, Ortega said the proposed arena is not "feasible" and should stay far away from Scottsdale because the mayor will not support the endeavor.
"As it stands today, the fantasy hockey project must move west, away from Scottsdale," Ortega wrote.
The mayor highlights how there's no infrastructure west of Scottsdale Road in this area so he's demanding that any infrastructure must be pulled from Phoenix because Scottsdale has no available water assets to spare.
Chapters:
0:00 The Backstory... things looked settled for a new arena
3:06 Scottsdale Mayor Dave Ortega's comments
6:30 Another look at the project
8:50 Takeaways
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[@michaelbaucom4019]

That mayor wants his palms greased...

[@Tampafan33]

So there’s that take. There’s also the possibility whoever gave him money in his campaigns wants this land for other reasons. Which im leaning more towards

[@ScottsGuitar]

@@Tampafan33you just said the same thing

[@tomace7924]

Of course. How else would politicians eat. They would starve otherwise.

[@gabemorrison9702]

The arenas in Phoenix, Scottsdale is across the street. So who cares what Snottsdale thinks

[@moose7454]

Exactly

[@markpeters5550]

Bougie ass city. Overrated

[@justinpederson2217]

Literally. Bunch of spoiled entitled tears. Loved in AZ for years. The most obnoxious and not even the wealthiest of the valley is ALL Scottsdale. This sounds so on par

[@scottwendt9575]

If this is going to be such a great project for Phoenix, why are they building it right on Scottsdale’s doorstep? This sounds like a rope-a-dope move. Once the project gets started, the pressure will be put on Scottsdale to help with infrastructure and to deal with the transit gridlock on their doorstep and to provide water resources while Phoenix collects tax revenue. There are real quality of life issues for the people living right across the street. Any mayor that pushes back against this kind of high density greenfield development in an area with no supporting infrastructure would have my vote.

[@scottdunkirk8198]

I’m glad the coyotes left they are run by crybabies.

[@WiggleBabies]

sounds like the mayor has some donors that wanted this land and now they got competition with the coyotes lol

[@skoltyacatch84]

Yep sounds like the people that funded his campaign wants that land

[@julibell1138]

Won’t hire his family??

[@azisles02]

Could also be that being this is an election year for him that he feels is Tempe rejected it that if he's against it now, it'll get him more votes as mayor.

[@drubie76]

That's a good theory!

[@skyhawk4946]

Nobody cares what the Mayor of Scottsdale thinks. He's kind of like a Burger King Supervisor.

[@kimcokevin]

It’s time to move on. Jeepers 28 years of a city rejecting you. It’s like chasing a girl that isn’t interested in you, have a little dignity.

[@moonglow630]

Well, the mayor can be voted out of office before ground is even broke, so does his opinion even matter???

[@kevinmaghran6933]

It matters a lot as it turns out

[@scottwendt9575]

But will he? Or could this make him win re-election instead?

[@moonglow630]

@@scottwendt9575 he actually already changed it less than a week later. Typical politician

[@michaelwallis395]

Of course the mayor of Scottsdale is opposed to the arena project. The arena will be built just outside of Scottsdale, but the city will not benefit from any of the tax revenue, Phoenix will. If the arena was being built on the other side of the road in Scottsdale, he would be the biggest supporter of the project. I think people should not just take this with a grain of salt, but dismiss it as nothing more than a politician pushing an agenda.

[@DarkForceEight]

He listed a bunch of demands & Phoenix agreed they will be included by the auction winner. The extra posturing is all political bs. When the Coyotes tried to make it work in Tempe, Phoenix was the group complaining. Now Phoenix is working with them & Scottsdale is angry. And the TED was a different plan either a different layout. So glad the mayor is paying attention .

[@drubie76]

Good theory also

[@tofutuesday]

This was my immediate thought. His opinion means nothing here. Move along, Mayor

[@kevinmaghran6933]

@DarkForceEight lmao no it's actually Scottsdale and Tempe saw through the con man. You were duped by him tho

[@kevinmaghran6933]

@@tofutuesday wrong. His opinion meant a lot. Yours and mine mean nothing

[@fatmanchew909]

One thing I learned is I trust what a government official says less than I trust Bettman or anything involving the Coyotes. Wonder who's on the donor list.

[@ScottsGuitar]

Is there any way we could find out?

[@Ty_web625]

It doesn’t matter what the Scottsdale mayor thinks. THEYRE IN PHOENIX NOT SNOBSDALE!!!!

[@kevinmaghran6933]

Turns out it did matter what Scottsdal's Mayor thought.

[@Ty_web625]

@@kevinmaghran6933 the relocation nothing to do with the mayor of Scottsdale and what he said. So as I stated, it doesn’t matter what he says.

[@kevinmaghran6933]

@Ty_web625 they didn't build the stadium because no one wanted to work with Meruelo. His stadium plan required miles of infrastructure from Phoenix instead of getting it a few feet away in nearby Scottsdale. It mattered what Scottsales mayor thought because he wouldn't give them infrastructure they needed.

[@mollyandbo]

This is the same mayor that tried to restrict water to homes in Rio Verde, but has no problem with new developments going up in North Scottsdale all over the place and golf coarses everywhere. This mayor is terrible.

[@ScottsGuitar]

Rio verde isn’t Scottsdale it’s not his responsibility. That’s just irresponsible settlers that made their own bed. It was their own fault they didn’t have water, so I don’t see the comparison

[@mollyandbo]

@ScottsGuitar Don't write if you don't know what you're talking about. It was the Rio Verde foothills which actually has a Scottsdale mailing g address. Terrible what he did.

[@ScottsGuitar]

@@mollyandbo Rio verde Literally is not in Scottsdale city limits. Thats why they cut it off. Furthermore the head of the community itself said they did it to themselves as they did nothing with the entire Year the city gave them. I watched him say it in an interview when this all went down. Nice try tho 👍

[@Lonestarr022]

He probably will not be mayor by the time this gets built.

[@JuicyPlayer]

I’ve never seen an entire state hate a team so much.

[@pimpinisanoncontactsport2096]

The A’s vs the coyotes take that for data 😆😆😆😆😆😆

[@notesandfragments]

And the whole NHL community. This has been a disaster almost from the jump. This should have been relocated over 20 years ago.

[@Fatblue246]

@@pimpinisanoncontactsport2096nah see the A’s are actually well loved they just are in a precarious market and have terrible ownership who loathes the area. They’ve done multiple reverse boycotts and sold out the stadium. The Coyotes have actual decent ownership(at least now)but Arizonans clearly loathe the team for some reason.

[@jeanpaulgroslouis609]

how many more signs does the team need , AZ Does Not WANT YOU , Move to either Houston or SLCity

[@FischerFan]

@@Fatblue246 Like the Warriors and Raiders before them, the A's have come to realize they play in an outdated, decrepit facility that is situated in the midst of a graffiti-dominated slum in a city that obviously doesn't have the funding to construct adequate facilities for pro sports teams.

[@michaelleroy9281]

Salt Lake City has said they're ready for a team this fall

[@miket.4192]

apparently there is a deal in place - from Frank Servalli - 'Coyotes players have possibly “been informed that something of a ’verbal’ agreement is in place to relocate to Salt Lake City”

[@chriauc2976]

Quebec city

[@stephenmoncrieff2056]

@@chriauc2976hate to say Quebec City isn't happening any time soon . I would love to see the Nordiques return but the NHL has it very low on their priorities .

[@ogieoglethorpe3788]

the league has that verbal agreement and an alternative schedule in place which means bettman already has other owners on board and the vote to approve a new owner and team move is an after thought.

[@ogieoglethorpe3788]

@@stephenmoncrieff2056 i would love having the nordiques back but that is never going to happen.

[@gregjohnson247]

Coyotes need to go to Salt Lake ..... Coyotes and Arizona has been a disaster.

[@bustertn2014]

Only if they get a new owner. The current one is trash. How bad is an owner if a city is willing to eat 41 empty dates a year in an arena.?

[@ColonizerChan]

i'd really rather them stay in arizona

[@reedermh]

Or Houston. Huge media market and instant rivalry with Dallas just up I-45.

[@michaelleroy9281]

@@bustertn2014 It will be another owner added on to all the ones they've had

[@SylveonMujigae]

@@reedermhI am against Houston, to be honest.

[@rrl4245]

That fool just cut off water to a neighboring development. He's probably just jealous that the new stadium isn't in Scottsdale to advance their tax base.

[@kevinmaghran6933]

No, he just knew a con man when he saw one.

[@DavidJackson-fs8bp]

Salt Lake City here WE come....👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@bustertn2014]

That rendering will take a decade plus. If the power and water and sewer is miles away it will take even longer. All this with an owner who is HORRIBLE. Imagine getting run out of multiple arena's and still trying to build your own. It's not going to happen. Wait and see. The current Coyote owner is just garbage and has NO idea how to build something like this. IF he would have just paid his bills he wouldn't be in Mullet right now. Does anybody think this guy will be paying his contractors enough to get this done?

[@j.thomas7128]

Longer than a decade plus just to run power, water, and sewer a few miles (through undeveloped land)? You have no idea how silly that sounds.... LOLOLOL The 233 mile California Aqueduct was built in under 6 years and that was in 1908. They were still using steam shovels back then.

[@user-jg5ws9gr8n]

Water is knotted kneaded They need ice THIS DEAL IS FROZEN !!!

[@theamaeve8175]

Okay well it's in Phoenix lol

[@alfredoescalante7418]

Brodie this Mayor sounds like Mayor Goodman of Las Vegas complaining about the Athletics moving to the strip , when she has Zero jurisdiction, over the strip and was upset that they didn't use Cashman Field which is in City of Las Vegas proper . he complaining of business lost and money following to this new area OUTSIDE his footprint

[@jubalainerussell9182]

Water? there is none. He is protecting the people from shady developers.

[@MrHayes-cb7hp]

Scottsdale is pissed because it butts right up against the city line and they would get zero revenue. It would also create competition for other venues in N. Scottsdale: Westworld, Quarter, Kierland etc. My guess is that Phoenix will ultimately back the project and I’m sure the Marriott people (with a JW right next door) will help push it through.

[@DaIton-]

Why does the entire state hate the coyotes 😂 And he says that now but if they win the auction and build an arena and entertainment district I’m sure he will welcome the tax revenue and job opportunities for the residents of Scottsdale

[@jeffa.7618]

Isn't the whole thing that they won't be getting any tax revenue bc it's being 100% privately funded and not in Scottsdale? (You're definitely right about the jobs, though)

[@franciscoc905]

Two decades of losing and pathetic former owners fucking over Arizona a couple times. It’s not the new owners fault, it just the Coyotes are a toxic brand for a majority of Arizonans despite what fans will say. There’s a reason they are the runt of the city and people are fine with them leaving.

[@sampicano]

Canada hates them too

[@stevenbauer4799]

probably wont like the tax breaks yotes will try to get to build like in tempe. or entertainment district that wil never come. con men gonna con.

[@steves1390]

They just want their cut

[@johnbrowne2170]

And to think hockey mad Quebec doesn't have an NHL team.

[@HenryHoolington]

They do, it’s in Montreal. The rest of Quebec doesn’t have the population American cities have to support it

[@edwardcasper5231]

Scottsdale mayor Ortega really has no say in this. The land is in the city of Phoenix. Development along Scottsdale Road (which is the border between Scottsdale and Phoenix) has long been a bone of contention between the two cities.

[@rexbo29]

When is the election? I want to vote this mayor out! But at least the land is technically in Phoenix!

[@zozobare68]

Well the land is in Phoenix, so idk why the mayor of Scottsdale even matter in this transaction. It between The Yotes, Phoenix and State of Arizona, not Scottsdale.

[@brodiebrazil]

Scottsdale likely just declaring they won't help and want no part

[@tracymoon4437]

The Mayor of Scottsdale matters because he doesn’t want a project considered to be part of Phoenix, to tap into the Scottsdale sewage, water, power, etc…and it seems that this project tapping into the Phoenix infrastructure might be far more difficult.

[@parkeraz5583]

​@@tracymoon4437 the project was designed from the start to tap into the Phoenix infrastructure it was required in the proposal to the state. So it's nothing new to anyone involved, just Scottsdale wanting to stay relevant.

[@BrokTheLoneWolf]

The “Phoenix” on the top canvas is really pissing him off eh? 😏

[@randypattie9524]

Coyotes are toast. Get the butter.

[@BrokTheLoneWolf]

Yawn. I’ve been hearing that forever.

[@gabemorrison9702]

9:32 South of loop 101 is Phoenix, Scottsdale is east of Scottsdale rd

[@kevinvonderscher3971]

The yotes days are #’d in Az. There is no way they will be the highest bidder on that land let alone will they have the capitol to develop it . This is a smokescreen to get them on their way to Salt Lake City .

[@stevenbauer4799]

that is probably the plan. they may be telling merullio get the land build the arena and nhl will give phx. expansion team when finished.

[@kristoffermangila]

They are now strarting to move everything to SLC.

[@loffmanssportstalk7400]

The land in which the arena is going to be built in city limits of Phoenix not scottsdale. If the the mayor can block the stadium form being built , he is also up for election in November so he could always lose and the next mayor could always allow them to build the arena. The arena wouldn’t start being built 2025 anyways

[@jtom68]

Hello Salt Lake as you know it’s bad when the mayor of where you want to move does not want you in his city lol

[@user-rn9ge8pk5y]

Taxpayers paying for billionaires stadiums. Complete insanity.

[@nyfinest017]

In my honest opinion, the Arizona hockey venture is coming to its conclusion. When the Mayor of Scottsdale points out the team losing their previous arena, barely filling out a smaller college hockey arena, and previously failed proposals, it is time to pack up. If Salt Lake City is welcoming the Coyotes to the city, why not take that offer and start fresh? I know some will say that the die-hard Coyotes fans want the team to stay in Arizona, but no city is willing to house them, and it looks like they are resentful of them. Also, I know some people keep asking about them moving to Quebec City. The NHL has stated that there are enough teams in Canada, and there are no plans to allow any moves or creation of a team there.

[@Odin029]

I'm not even going to pretend to know the politics of the situation, but those renderings look pretty darn cool. I haven't been to the Phoenix area in quite a long time, but if I found myself there, I'd go to that arena to catch a game.

[@Sean-C]

After seeing the mess that is the Oakland A's and the City of Oakland, no one is surprised that the cities in Arizona are against the Coyotes.

[@thewhale9527]

I can understand the water concerns

[@georgehand]

Why does this smell like jealousy that the project will be in Phoenix not Scottsdale, this is the Coyotes best option and as they put their final roll of the dice

[@lynn.ray49ray75]

I appreciate hearing your view and information. My grandson is a coyote cheerleader. We,will be sad if the team doesn't remain in the valley.

[@ryanthomas887]

What a headache.

[@manzoman96]

The Phoenix, Arizona Coyotes residing in Scottsdale, of Anaheim

[@DebitAdams]

Of the United States of North America of Earth

[@mikehenson9984]

It would be funny if salt lake City outbid the coyotes just to ensure a move

[@Michael_RareZebra]

They'd have to come up with a complex/viable plan with long-term commitment to the city of Phoenix... It's far-fetched but it would be funny in a sad sort of way.

[@Nuthing_but_the_Truth]

Good for the mayor. We don't need more people in Scottsdale. The traffic will be impacted so much and the strain on resources would be a lot for the community.

[@flech3025]

Sounds to me like the Scottsdale Mayor has a NIMBY problem. But also with a project this size there should be plans for public transit and as far as infrastructure, why is solar on the roof seemingly not being considered and they could be talking about storing energy in batteries below the stadium or something.

[@seanp6774]

The whole valley has a NIMBY problem. It’s disgusting.

[@leaf16nut]

Already running out of water, but lets build a massive new venue and then, oh I don't know, make *ice* in the *desert* 😂 just move the team already, it's a joke!

[@EarlofCrawford]

There is no water. They cant dress that up any other way. The water isnt available

[@vb2324]

Never seen a team and league try so hard to stay in a state that made it clear doesnt want them. If the Coyotes will to 100% privately finance the project sounds like a win win to me. I agree with the Scottsdale Mayor since the property is in Phx they should use their own resources for it however besides that he should have no say what's happens in Phx. I get the feeling the real reason for his opposition is the commercial competition so close to Scottsdale borders

[@bretts2356]

I don't know how much weight the neighboring town's mayor can really throw around. He has no jurisdiction there, so... He can pound sand? If Phoenix is on board, that's all that matters.

[@louiscypher4186]

On one hand if this doesn't work out it'll sad for Yotes fans. On the other hand it's going to be hilarious to watch people who mindless hold water for politicians blame the League and Owners for relocating.

[@alexe1707]

Because it's actually in Phoenix. Similar to the Las Vegas Mayor's position on the A's. If they were to build the A's stadium on Freemont St. The mayor would be signing a different tune. Same thing here, If it was in Old Town it would be a different tune. Also the buildings on some of the renderings already exist in other parts of town

[@stockmarketman]

The developers that greased him on Scottsdale development don’t want competition. Funny that a lot of Coyote players live in Scottsdale.

[@dennybarlau8065]

Let's not forget, the Vendors of the coyotes had to bring the current owner To court ,in order to get paid , I believe he's the most hated owner in the NHL The evidence is over whelming

[@squidMB]

I still believe that they should just relocate to Salt Lake City and then figure out their whole arena deal without constant pressure from the NHL and what not. Then add an expansion team there afterwards. It’s too big of a market to not leave for good.

[@erikcarlson9821]

Personally, I believe the governments in Arizona need to just stop with all the damn red tape.

[@ryanburnham1932]

I think Houston would be a better option, but that is largely because they could change their name to the Roadrunners and Wile E. Coyote could loose again.

[@kevin-um9ys]

@@ryanburnham1932 Bring back the Aeros !!

[@robbiekeller1353]

I’m a coyotes fan, and I was excited for the current owners/management. I thought they could bring in new fans. In stead they just moved to an embarrassingly small stadium, and then bragged about the sell out crowds. Now they want to build this complex, but sadly, they have never had a strong enough fan base to warrant “coyote city.”

[@zacharydavis7184]

I gotta disagree on that one. The city refused to extend the Coyotes lease at the very last possible minute, which left the team to scramble for a venue. Do you really think an owner of a professional sports team would willingly move to a venue that’s 1/3 of the size that they were operating out of unless they absolutely had to? Now, those cities are going to lose out on the tourism revenue.

[@robbiekeller1353]

@@zacharydavis7184 I argue that it is the owner/management’s job to extend the lease, the fact that they failed to make that happen is on them.

[@MadMikeSportsYT]

This is Howard Terminal all over again.

[@j.thomas7128]

YaY! Salt Lake city is getting a CLUB!

[@timkelly6463]

Interesting how the complaints from fans about the old arena was how far it was out of the way. This new proposed site is just as far from downtown Phoenix. Is that really gonna entice fans to attend games?

[@sebastianbelcher5354]

As a Yotes fan working right down the street from the site, I hope this goes through. Would be so cool to swing by a game on the way home.

[@ryanburnham1932]

They have seats at the Mullett almost every game, and it is only a 5,000 seat arena, why aren't you going now? The attendance is a joke and tripling the size of the arena will only make it more of one. Maybe the owner should have focused on spending money on quality players and not a last ditch effort to keep the team in Phoenix/Arizona.

[@Michael_RareZebra]

He's not happy they're not using his ties in Architecture. If they used his services, all of a sudden it would be the greatest thing ever. Phoenix will get massive tax dollars from chip plant TSMC (which he doesn't question about water) and will also get tax revenue and job growth from this development (and take away from the "Lions" in Scottsdale). Arizona politics is wretched.

[@chrisrodriguez8899]

Come to Oakland!

[@nookbandit]

You hit the crack pipe too much?

[@hashbrownfob]

Oakland couldn't get the As stadium deal done ,what makes you think they be able to get a Hockey stadium built?

[@michaelleroy9281]

Return of the California Golden Seals?

[@andrewheitmeyer9945]

Sacramento would get an nhl team before Oakland ever will. The state of the art downtown arena in sac just needs to be retrofitted for hockey and then we’re all set haha

[@brentdnowicki]

The Sharks aren't doing too hot either.

[@chrismurphy9492]

Scottsdale is afraid of losing millions in sale tax revenue. A high end retail space, rent on commercial office space and fine dining options across the street from Scottsdale. All those residents will start spending their money(and they have lots of it) in Phoenix now. Wah, Wah Scottsdale you had a couple chances to build this.

[@J69user]

I swear I also heard it was going to be privately funded so that means it wouldn’t have increased taxes in the area. I could see them not wanting it if was being funded by taxes because then the taxes go sky high in the area. If you can get a stadium built to a team that is pretty much homeless without having to increase taxes. I would expect that in a heartbeat not only can Arizona keep the Coyotes but you get a brand new stadium that is completely going to be privately funded. That should be a win win for Arizona if not they need to relocate because now you can argue the state doesn’t want the team.

[@scottNNJ]

One part of me wonders if this is part NIMBY, part jealousy. The mayor doesn’t want to be a neighbor to the arena project, but might happily be home to the project and collect the revenues that are generated because of it. Another part of me wonders about zoning and planning oversight and permitting. It seems that the state is the sole entity offering the land, but wouldn’t the city of Phoenix (or North Phoenix if that’s a separate municipality, I really don’t know) have a say in how the land gets used? We heard what Scottsdale has to say, but they carry little weight. Phoenix can impose more stringent regulations or requirements on the development, but I wonder if they have or will - other than backroom negotiations that may have already occured. An interesting situation indeed. I would not be comfortable placing any bets on the outcome.

[@gabemorrison9702]

It's in Phoenix. Who the f*ck cares what Snottsdale thinks 8:13

[@MichaelHeilman]

You would think that the city would support this because they don't have to pay a dime and yet don't want them. Time for the Coyotes to go elsewhere with the same goal of building an arena with no public funds.

[@parkeraz5583]

Scottsdale is complaining because it's in Phoenix

[@kristoffermangila]

You're right about that, since they are moving to SLC.

[@stevennelson9504]

This is reminding me of the Minnesota North Stars, Norm Green issues. When the Stars principal owner could not get along with the state's political leadership. Likely will have a similar result.

[@theamaeve8175]

Scottsdale is kinda irrelevant tho cause they are purchasing land from AZ in the city of Phoenix. Scottsdale has nothing at all to do with it

[@sominboy2757]

norm wanted an arena connected to mall of America.

[@michaelleroy9281]

​@@sominboy2757The Mall of America wasn't THAT close to the Met Center that would have been a hard project to get done

[@kristoffermangila]

It doesn't matter anymore, since the Yotes are goin' to SLC.

[@robertmulligan7475]

Anyone who ever thought the Coyotes had it figured out... hasn't paid attention to the last 28 years of the Coyotes organization's existence.

[@jamesvitale6666]

It’s time for the Arizona coyotes to move to Utah Jazz. It would be a lot better there for them.

[@dennis3351]

I want nothing to do with Scottsdale mayor also. let him go packing first. Let the land auction go through then decide.

[@KNuckleZification]

Mayor chose violence. Wow. This guy is not playing with the Coyotes, at all.

[@socalmitch6939]

They should move to Oakland, that city knows how to work with sports teams to get things done.

[@gabetalks9275]

The Bay already has the Sharks. Don't huff the copium. It's not worth it at this point.

[@timmccrory7630]

I was hoping that you could do a video on why Houston does not have a team and show us that tell me the Rockets owner is blowing it for the whole city of Houston.

[@SarahDigsHockey]

I think the Coyotes' track record and resulting reputation speak for themselves. I wouldn't want to be left high and dry by the next failure by Coyotes ownership. There is only so much you can take before you lose trust in someone who seems to be nothing more than a used-car salesman.

[@artycat0811]

Mayor's mad he'll be missing out on his kick backs and grafting money from construction, etc.

[@thomasbeltran5417]

Sounds like Howard terminal

[@brodiebrazil]

it's going that direction, unfortunately

[@michaelmarkowski204]

Great job by the Bruiser in explaining this latest development. If Meruelo offered to pay for the whole shot in Tempe like he is with this proposal, would he have secured that site and this issue wouldn't even exist? "Highest and best" bid..."BEST" being the key word. If another land developer meets with the mayors of Phoenix and Scottsdale with a proposal they like, it appears that, as long as they bid the minimum, they can win the auction no matter what Meruelo bids.

[@pvb876287]

Excellent indepth analysis, on your state. The team base will survive with guys like you in control. good luck

[@bradleywilbur4762]

I really feel that they need to move to Utah. ●Utah is most likely getting the 2034 winter Olympics ●Utah has secured nearly a billion dollars for a new NHL arena ●Utah has the fan base and support that they need ●Utah has a 18,000 seat arena that they can move into temporary while they build their new arena ●Utah has several wealthy investors wanting them today Just move the franchise to a place that will give the team what they deserve.

[@redpillfreedom6692]

The Delta Center wouldn't be the temporary home due to it's sightlines not being made for hockey. They would play at the Maverik Center just south of Salt Lake, which was built for the Winter Olympics in 2002.

[@meddyven]

​@@redpillfreedom6692The Maverik Center is more ideal as a hockey arena, but is about 6/7 K less seats. The Delta Center does have the problem on the ends, due to the basketball configuration, bit I'd bet they play at Delta Center over Maverik. I would rather see them play at Maverik, esthetically speaking, but the Delta Center has more seats, and the concourses/concessions are soo wide open and easy to get around, where at the Maverik Center, the concession areas are overcrowded.

[@kristoffermangila]

In any case since the Yotes are transferring to SLC, the question now is... will the new Utah team retain the Coyotes name, or rename it for a fresh start?

[@francb1634]

I find Soto's "don't you have a plan B?" take to be really disingenuous.. plan B was 17 plans ago.

[@momboss247]

Did he not make any teams when he was younger? Sounds bitter

[@edwarddobrowolski9398]

the saga continues

[@ESaboHowGravityWorks]

Water is a huge consideration not to mention sewer.

[@WindomRettes]

When does Bettman wake up and move this team already?

[@OtherBrotherDaryl]

Coyotes are done. Utah, here they come!

[@ryanburnham1932]

Fans of the team in the area??? They cannot even sellout the 5,000 seat Mullett Arena on a constant basis but want to build a 17,000 seat arena? Also if the owner has this much money, why isn't he using it to acquire players in free agency and trades to make the team better instead of having one of the lowest team salaries in the league (with many retain contracts) and one of the worst teams in the league.

[@lancetheb.m.c]

Of course that Scottsdale will say this due to what happened with the Los Arcos Project back in 1998.......

[@bogdanivchenko3723]

I don't blame him. Everyone goes after their own interests, If taxpayers pay his salary, he should be defending their interest

[@roadtrip2943]

An unincorporated area north of luxe scottsdale had unresolved water access issues for decades,the mayor long active in local affairs having made efforts to resolve things finally cut them off from scottsdale water. He took tremendous heat over it. The intersection of scottsdale rd and 101 has numerous large projects in which representations were made but plans repeatedly modified. Thousands of apartment units ,large commercial, office bldgs all requiring major infrastructure and water. The neighbors have been hopping mad over some projects planned dramatically increased traffic . The coyotes los argos mall plans from decades ago were contentious and the land was eventually redevelopment by ASU and several dozen partners as a tech innovation center critical in the massive tech dev funding of the past few years now yielding multiple billions annually to the region

[@bartphlegar8212]

Well, well!... 😃 ...How many times did he say "I demanded..." in his presser? (Can't stop laughing.) If I didn't know better I'd say he has short man syndrome...In the end I think Ortega's bellicose rant works against Scottsdale. Obvious from the start, this was all about Scottsdale trying to feathernest its corner, and try to manipulate the Scottsdale Road interchange (a State asset) all for itself. I could entertain the guy's argument even though I don't agree with him - that is up until the point he starts acting like a petulant child with "I demanded...", and also the very ill-advised put-down of Meruelo as "a rookie developer". Meruelo made his first million as a teenager in a deal with Walmart...To be sure, this wasn't a statement from the Scottsdale City Council. This was a grandstanding statement by a trigger-happy political aspirant, who apparently hasn't figured out yet that Arizona officials don't like being dictated to by mayors, even from Scottsdale. I'd be surprised if the mayor didn't draw a rebuke from the Scottsdale Council at-large. Some people just can't stay in their lane...

[@kristoffermangila]

I feel that this would haunt him in the next election, since the Coyotes are moving to Utah.

[@j.h.arnold]

Whatever happened to “we choose to do it because it is hard”? Scottsdale mayor has some valid points, but this might not happen because of what amounts to parking spaces? Enojado Arizona.

[@keeganbrown9967]

Move to San Antonio and assist the SPURS in building a beautiful entertainment district in downtown SA. We also like Coyotes for obvious reasons. It's a perfect fit.

[@scottwendt9575]

There is no such thing as a self funded sports team infrastructure project. In Minnesota, we had promises from a soccer team owner not to worry, they would build their own stadium and would even pay taxes on their development. After several areas were rejected, they ended up getting land intended for business development in an area desperately needing jobs. Now here we are with a monstrous stadium that sits virtually empty that ended up heavily subsidized by taxpayers. The area around it had been struggling retail which was cleared to make more room and now the neighborhood’s remaining retail is on a downward spiral. Stay strong Scottsdale. Use any means necessary to keep from being forced to subsidize a monstrous ego project that will only benefit others and takes away vital resources from your everyday citizens.

[@alk61695]

It is all fun and games until the politicians create a problem. Reminds me of the failed lighthouse project on Long Island.

[@exeter1985]

I missed something... How does the Mayor of Scottsdale have a say in what goes on in the city limits of Phoenix? It sounds to me like there's something going on behind the scenes.

[@realalbertan]

There is no existing access from pheonix

[@autismawareness8912]

He doesn't ultimately have any say however he can make it much more difficuly and more expensive to develop the land. Ortega has been an anti-development guy for 25+ years. If up to him and his old COPP cronies, we'd all still be riding horses living in the middle of open desert. I've been a home owner in Scottsdale since 1991 when there was no 101, no stop light north of Shea on Pima and if COPP and these old Scottsdale cronies had it their way, it would still be that way.

[@alexkueter9710]

They have no say, it's just political grandstanding. They're saying there is no utility access from their side, which of course there isn't, it's not in his city it's in Phoenix.

[@HHSGDFootballJPD]

​@@autismawareness8912 COPP? What does it stand for?

[@autismawareness8912]

@@HHSGDFootballJPD it stands for “Coalition of Pinnacle Peak”. They used to have a lot of power with Scottsdale’s City Council. They fought every development that was submitted. We “fought” with them constantly. Bob Vairo (may he rest in peace) was a very good man however he was the “president” of a large group of Scottsdale residents that thought Scottsdale should be a town of 1991. Ultimately their “power” dwindled when the city council finally got enough members that realized how much money was to be made in Scottsdale The main reason they did have do much power was due to several board members (hmmmmm) who were like minded. Cheers

[@theaquariancontrarian3316]

Looks like the mayor is not getting reelected

[@user-nl7yo6be9o]

Scottsdale owned Westworld is 2 miles away and the scottsdale quarter is mile away.

[@moonglow630]

Seems like “the lady doth protest too much”. There’s something else going on here. I think what another poster said might be correct. His donors/or someone tied to him might be interested in that land for other purposes.

[@stevenguzman2282]

Keep in mind this is equivalent to placing major sports teams in Summerlin or near Summerlin. Another scenario such as this is major sports teams in Pasadena. It’s comparable that Scottsdale is likely in that same predicament and that is keeping their cities presentable and not having so much commotion for 41 games during the week and weekends. Having been to Scottsdale the city is well kept and nice places for dining and shopping. In 2003 I happen to be at the Insight Bowl, on that same day the (then) new Phoenix Coyotes arena was opened in Glendale. Sad to see this occurring.

[@sit2go]

I call BS that the Arizona Coyotes will pay for everything. Seriously its looks like they are building a city. This project would cost billions of dollars. They are only talking about spending $100 million so far.

[@user-rn9ge8pk5y]

Why is You Tube censoring comments on this?

[@wbj2000]

The ultimate clown show continues. On top of everything else, it turns out expecting city services from Scottsdale without paying city taxes is not on. I wonder what color the new jerseys will be after they move to Salt Lake City.