Lunatone vs Solrock - Pokemon Emerald

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Scott's Thoughts

Scott's Thoughts

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@lorddelibird
@lorddelibird 3 ай бұрын
My favorite part of this is Scott saying: “Solrock is so much more intuitive and feels so much better to play” and then immediately begins a montage of it getting bodied 😂
@DkKobaADV
@DkKobaADV 3 ай бұрын
It's better in competitive while lunatone is way more niche
@foxmountain8065
@foxmountain8065 3 ай бұрын
​@@DkKobaADV They're both dogwater in competitive.
@silver_was_found
@silver_was_found 2 ай бұрын
@@DkKobaADVThere are at least less special rock types than physical ones. I’ve had some success using Meteor Beam Lunatone
@DkKobaADV
@DkKobaADV 2 ай бұрын
@@foxmountain8065 im talking about their debut gen, solrock isn't great but it has usage as a mon that has explosion, sand immunity, and spike immunity. lunatone specifically shuts down pretty much every dragon dance salamence set too.
@Dankfort
@Dankfort 2 ай бұрын
​@@DkKobaADVLunatone at least has a tiny niche in ADV OU though, Solrock is completely unusable there
@TastyMeerkat
@TastyMeerkat 3 ай бұрын
Venomoth Fact #37: Like most of us, Venomoth had to do a double take upon finding out the fastest Pokemon in the game is Steven's Claydol and at this very moment, is laying out diets and cardio routines for all of Emerald to fix this.
@DwunD016
@DwunD016 3 ай бұрын
I made it to 1:34:21. And I just wanna say, no Scott, YOU'RE INCREDIBLE!
@SquirrelGamingProductions
@SquirrelGamingProductions 3 ай бұрын
1:03:13 Medicham is Rock now 😂
@MFMegaZeroX7
@MFMegaZeroX7 3 ай бұрын
Medicham is the 2nd best rock type after Venomoth.
@sortfaar3
@sortfaar3 3 ай бұрын
just look at the pokemon cards, of course medicham is a rock type (or the other two are fighting type? who knows)
@sopadumacacoumadelicia5
@sopadumacacoumadelicia5 2 ай бұрын
​@@sortfaar3 venomoth is grass type too as everyone knows
@apaxtoa
@apaxtoa 2 ай бұрын
​@@sopadumacacoumadelicia5 venomoth is clearly fire/water everyone knows this smh...
@dozokhu7392
@dozokhu7392 2 ай бұрын
@@apaxtoaThis is untrue. Venomoth is actually the first stellar type Pokémon, with a totally balanced ability combining the effects of Tera Shell and Tinted Lens. Yes, this even exists in the broken code of gen 1 when abilities didn’t apparently exist yet.
@Soren_Pedersen
@Soren_Pedersen 3 ай бұрын
In competitive Pokémon a sweep is when one Pokémon deals with all the opponents Pokémon, doesn't need to be one-shots. The term is only weird when considering a solo run being one big sweep :P
@MayVeryWellBeep
@MayVeryWellBeep 2 ай бұрын
We still play fast and loose for with the term in competitive though. We'll say stuff like "I'm going to try to soften them up with Rock Slide and Intimidate and see if I can set myself up to sweep with Ursaluna in the endgame" or something which basically means "I'm gonna beat them using a lot of different Pokémon actually" haha but it still makes kinda some sense.
@qwirkt
@qwirkt 2 ай бұрын
@@MayVeryWellBeepyeah in the end it’s most commonly used in contexts where one pokemon managed to one-shot several other pokemon due to setting up, or to having been set up by the rest of the team. Because otherwise it’s not too common for one pokemon to take out several others in a competitive context.
@lyonnaismatt
@lyonnaismatt 3 ай бұрын
You're a great content creator because you don't hide your struggles and downfalls. I was SCREAMING at the video (not really) "Luna will struggle at Steven! Every single thing you do needs to revolve around beating Steven! DO NOT PICK HIDDEN POWER DARK HOLY COW YOU NEED HIDDEN POWER FIRE FOR STEVEN DO YOU NOT REALIZE THAT METAGROSS WILL ONE SHOT YOU"... and it hurts that Luna will forever not have that epic #1 spot on the list because of an error that I think could've been predicted. But from a meta perspective, DANG, Scott... You're so transparent about your thought process and planning that watching you make mistakes is INCREDIBLY engaging! I'm loving this video.
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 2 ай бұрын
Hidden Power other than Dark is banned from 1st playthroughs as it gives type coverage that would otherwise trivialize roadblocks. Dark is the Hidden Power type you get with max IVs which is what he uses.
@Math.Bandit
@Math.Bandit 2 ай бұрын
​​@@ShiningJudgment666This is not correct. That's a Gen 2 thing only. Here Scott specifically chose HP Dark for Lunatone. You'll notice that Solrock does not have HP Dark in the first playthrough.
@hannahbriarly4192
@hannahbriarly4192 2 ай бұрын
​@@ShiningJudgment666this is wrong
@SairekCeareste
@SairekCeareste 3 ай бұрын
When it comes to one-shotting someone's Pokemon team one after another, I personally call it a "clean sweep".
@destinysaiyan014
@destinysaiyan014 2 ай бұрын
Same
@felixin02
@felixin02 2 ай бұрын
And if you want to be specific, in sports exist the “gentleman sweep” when 1 team wins the series 4-1 (series of 7) so if one pokemon is not one shot you could say it
@Eagleeye2428
@Eagleeye2428 3 ай бұрын
Poor medicham is now a rock/physic pokemon now
@yerekravein9221
@yerekravein9221 3 ай бұрын
I think "clean sweep" is the phrase you are looking for.
@VillainousWarlord
@VillainousWarlord 2 ай бұрын
The storytelling element of the video with setting up Lunatone as the favorite to win and crushing the first playthrough up to Steven while Solrock failed around was just done masterfully, considering Solrock's comeback in the end and the Steven factor. You really know how to present these for maximum entertainment and informational value!
@VegeMaticPragtarian
@VegeMaticPragtarian 3 ай бұрын
When I hear “sweep” in a Pokémon context, there’s a connotation of confidence. Like, now that I’ve set up my Pokémon, I feel confident that I don’t have to strategize much and can just attack the rest of the way. Which is definitely different than the baseball context I hear it most often. Baseball sweeps are extremely difficult to pull off. So I think it’s very different
@BamaMophi
@BamaMophi 2 ай бұрын
For Solrock, this could be a really rare scenario where it would be best to use Hidden Power Bug. As its higher physical attack makes this move a very good addition to deal with the myriad of dark types, grass types, and other psychic types along the way. What’s more, it all but guarantees a one hit ko on the dreaded Ludicolo. The one downside is in fighting the ghost type elite four member, however, having access to shadow ball tm, I believe the bug type move would make up for the lost time having to obtain the shadow ball tm if it is indeed a necessity in the first place.
@DonYagamoth
@DonYagamoth 2 ай бұрын
From humble beginnings to an absolutely amazing content creator. You are a true inspiration to me :) I've stated dabbling in making edited videos myself, but whenever I look back to them, they just feel mediocre. But that's where the learning and work to improve needs to come into play. Step by step Thank you so much, and have a fantastic day :)
@kevinsips3658
@kevinsips3658 3 ай бұрын
As the guy that criticized your use of “Asymmetric” when “nonlinear” was more appropriate, I’m glad you appreciate my critiques lmao
@andres.5204
@andres.5204 3 ай бұрын
nonlinear is asymmetric? obviously there's a difference between the words, but there's no reason to correct something that technically isn't wrong in that context.
@kevinsips3658
@kevinsips3658 2 ай бұрын
@@andres.5204 I firmly believe that the word “nonlinear” describes the phenomenon in a much more accurate manner. If we evaluate the damage done f(t) at each level t, we should be able to find a linear function f(x) such that for all x = t, f(x) = f(t) EXCEPT at levels ending in 0, 3, 5, and, what was it, 8? These are the only times f(t) is not described by a linear function, thus “nonlinear” could be a suitable descriptor. “Asymmetric”, while indeed not an incorrect descriptor, is more commonly used in nonnumerical contexts. As we are essentially observing a computer calculate a number (damage) based on a function (of level, stats, etc.), I argue that nonlinear is not only better than asymmetric, but is the ideal word for the phenomenon of damage rounding threshold. In this paper I will
@hiimroo3120
@hiimroo3120 2 ай бұрын
@@kevinsips3658haha had to comment just to say your paper ending to that cracked me up
@kenb2957
@kenb2957 3 ай бұрын
You don't make your gameplay effortless, and I can't voice enough how great that is. Your open honesty about misplays and resets sends a message about hard work conquering all and paints a realistic picture about what it takes to achieve dreams. Keep on working for your dreams always!
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 ай бұрын
Furthermore, as he is consistently messing up, we now can really track the ease of use because he is not pretending to play better than he is. His tier list is normalized to his playstyle and rules so transparently.
@paulmann8570
@paulmann8570 2 ай бұрын
Boy, the story behind Mario Party 6 has a lot more lore than I thought…
@rooislangwtf
@rooislangwtf 3 ай бұрын
Scott using Rollout isn't the type of character development I was expecting
@bettyunicorn6132
@bettyunicorn6132 3 ай бұрын
Good for him 😊
@baconlabs
@baconlabs 3 ай бұрын
Scott really just went all Majora's Mask over Hoenn, huh
@shadex08
@shadex08 3 ай бұрын
Such a cool showdown between these two! Steven really does make a big difference.
@Goofy8907
@Goofy8907 2 ай бұрын
Mr Shine and Mr Bright I've always felt they came straight from Kriby
@gwendolyngreene7427
@gwendolyngreene7427 2 ай бұрын
great first playthrough section of the video scott! i love your story telling in all your runs, using the data coupled with the key fights to keep the pace good and tension up, and adding your references to the community poll before the fight with steven makes the outcome feel so exciting! awesome video as always
@patonosequecosa
@patonosequecosa 3 ай бұрын
Solgaleo And Lunala thinking they are the first sun and moon Pokémon Solrock and Lunatone 2 decades before:
@Aichi1138
@Aichi1138 3 ай бұрын
Xatu and Clefable before them
@AAX11111
@AAX11111 2 ай бұрын
Umbreon and Espeon
@Neogeddon
@Neogeddon 2 ай бұрын
I mean even in the Legendaries category, Ho-Oh and Lugia were already day/night counterparts with designs to match.
@passtheyaoi
@passtheyaoi 2 ай бұрын
Ruby sapphire were only 14 years before SuMo
@retloclive9118
@retloclive9118 2 ай бұрын
What's crazy is that despite having Pokemon based on the Sun and Moon, Solrock and Lunatone were somehow not in any of the Sun and Moon games.
@mynameispepper1590
@mynameispepper1590 3 ай бұрын
For "sweep", I'd say that the spirit of the definition is when a fight is not just one sided, but significantly easier than average. So, while every victory in a solo run might technically be a sweep, I think the term makes more sense when referring to a series of OHKOs. Love the videos, as always!
@bettyunicorn6132
@bettyunicorn6132 3 ай бұрын
Yeah!
@Xeraser2
@Xeraser2 2 ай бұрын
Solrock and Lunatone are in that awkward spot where they become available just BARELY late enough (in a regular playthrough) for you to consider skipping them. If you could get into Meteor Falls earlier than the 4th Gym they would be great sleeper additions to any team. If only Route 115 had just a tiny bit more sand you could get into Meteor Falls's south exit and nab them early.
@sortfaar3
@sortfaar3 3 ай бұрын
i never noticed it before (probably because i often off screen your videos while playing games) but the flannery animation of camerupt waking up numel is so ace. it feels like it makes so much sense! numel and camerupt usually have half open eyes, so they seem kinda lazy, and since numel evolves into camerupt its kinda like a parent telling their teenage kid to behave. good one scott
@Nicholas86753
@Nicholas86753 3 ай бұрын
I remember asking for this playthrough nearly every day when you started doing Emerald Runs, I'm so happy to finally see it! Go Solrock!
@Cream147player
@Cream147player 3 ай бұрын
This video really showcases why Pokémon Emerald is such a great game for this format. Both of these Pokémon have so many viable options that they can go in terms of their movesets. It was also very unpredictable which of them would do better, you could only really figure it out by playing. Steven Stone is such a good final boss as well, he is definitely the hardest fight and so often a check to Pokémon who have otherwise done very well in the game. You need to set up your whole game knowing that Steven Stone is happening at the end. He also has good synergy with Wallace, who tests your special stats where Steven tests your physical stats. It was a surprising outcome to me that Solrock appears to be slightly better than Lunatone - I guess Lunatone's Special Attack draws on its more glamorous Psychic typing rather than Solrock's Attack leaning on its Rock typing and so intuitively Lunatone feels better. But actually, Solrock's attack makes Rollout great at just the right moment, and access to Flamethrower plus better physical defence making it better against Steven. Fantastic video this week, and your play in Emerald has obviously improved dramatically. Thanks Scott!
@SantaFeSuperChief1
@SantaFeSuperChief1 2 ай бұрын
I love the stars behind lunatone and the shine behind solrock in the thumbnail great detail
@brandonferris9956
@brandonferris9956 3 ай бұрын
I like how the Lunatone back sprite makes it look even more like it has a beak lol
@adammartin2431
@adammartin2431 2 ай бұрын
This video is masterfully narrated. Extremely entertaining. You've improved heaps!
@SlakothUsedYawn
@SlakothUsedYawn 2 ай бұрын
Solrock always struck me as a strange pokemon. With such an obviously Special-oriented movepool themed around Fire/Solar Beam, it ended up with the stats of a physical attacker. In my mind they designed Lunatone first and then felt obligated to make Solrock's stats "mirror" it's counterpart, even to it's own detriment
@NioNerd
@NioNerd 3 ай бұрын
I loved the optimizations in this video! And I think the fact that Sol Rock switches from a physical build to a special is dope too. Good job Scott.
@crystalfireplays8060
@crystalfireplays8060 3 ай бұрын
This is by far the best pokemon emerald video on your channel and for the first time I watched an entire gen 3 solo run of yours
@Silvitewolf
@Silvitewolf 2 ай бұрын
"If you look at the top 4 you'll see they're all rock type" Medichamp- wait what?
@megariderfire1994
@megariderfire1994 2 ай бұрын
Medicham and Machamp fusion being a Rock Type XD
@tsawy6
@tsawy6 2 ай бұрын
This is a great video, even for you Scott. Emerald is starting to get actually (more) optimised, and seeing the depth you can squeeze out of the larger movesets and mpre complex overall game is really awesome
@whistling_klutz
@whistling_klutz 2 ай бұрын
In retrospect, it should be fairly obvious that Solrock isn’t a Fire/Psychic type, given that it looks _nothing_ like Venomoth.
@ultimapower6950
@ultimapower6950 29 күн бұрын
Venomoth’s Water/Dragon and Ghost/Dark respectively actually.
@Caun-88
@Caun-88 3 ай бұрын
So this is random but I just want to appreciate the coloring detail on Lunatone's eye in the Emerald backsprite.
@outerspacemantarays
@outerspacemantarays 2 ай бұрын
Hey Scott, always a pleasure to watch your videos! Just a minor comment, when you do the curves for comparison at the end (1:32:50), you use the same color code for both pokemon, I'd sugest different color codes for each pokemon, while at the same time making the hue darker or lighter depending on the number of the run you had with the poke, this way one just glances at the legend of the plot just to see how the info is encoded, after this it becomes much easier to remember what is what. Keep up the awesome work!
@georgiosvavliaras1066
@georgiosvavliaras1066 Ай бұрын
Literally all your videos are works of art and love and one can tell mate, major respect!
@Chronoflation
@Chronoflation 3 ай бұрын
The end of the Lunatone first playthrough made me sad. I felt like 1 or 2 less calm minds would let you 3 hit with Psychic without getting caught in the Full Restore loop
@Smileyrat
@Smileyrat 2 ай бұрын
When two evolution stones beat up a gym challenge. Spoiler land ahead: This was a wild ride. Lost of ups and downs, unexpected challenges, and in the end they were both amazing and so shockingly close. The narrative really pulled it together.This was a great video.
@cameronenright9947
@cameronenright9947 2 ай бұрын
Scott, this is my favorite video yet. Very well put together!
@robertstrommer2778
@robertstrommer2778 2 ай бұрын
woke up to this video! thanks for the birthday present Scott! at work yesterday I saw someone in a Pokémon shirt and wrote down your channel for them to check you out !
@ChaosWindScar99
@ChaosWindScar99 3 ай бұрын
I really like seeing how close this race really was. I got on the poll late but i assumed Solrock would be better thanks to the more diverse move pool. I didn't think the stats would matter much and I'm glad i was at least half right. The lower Sp. Atk stats for Solrock weren't so much a hindrance as the lower Atk stat was for Lunatone. Either way placing 2nd and 3rd is still very good. Thanks for the video.
@ScottE-2
@ScottE-2 3 ай бұрын
Taking the saying "here comes the sun dodo dodo" to a whole other meaning... Great video. Glad to see Lunatone get some love. Personally one of my favorite new rock types from gen 3.
@Envyingorb
@Envyingorb 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for a video to watch during my grind tonight
@chapolinm_
@chapolinm_ 3 ай бұрын
HELL YEAAAAH, IT’S GOOD TO BE A SUUUUB
@ScottsThoughtsPokemon
@ScottsThoughtsPokemon 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the support!
@dylangrassmyer3032
@dylangrassmyer3032 3 ай бұрын
Another video lets go! I can't wait to watch it. Keep up the good work Scott! I enjoy your analysis during your play throughs
@cinnamoone3553
@cinnamoone3553 2 ай бұрын
my babies! i did these runs a little while back, and found that Solrock can still somewhat reliably carry rollout into Steven Stone. also, hypnosis on Lunatone is a much better option than it might be given credit for, in spite of its low accuracy. overall, they both do surprisingly well in gen 3 and i'm so proud of them :3
@ImmacHn
@ImmacHn 3 ай бұрын
Medicham has to be one of my favorite Rock type Pokemon.
@Nicoco_Mochi
@Nicoco_Mochi 3 ай бұрын
Along with Venomoth
@devinmiracle7680
@devinmiracle7680 2 ай бұрын
So to me, the term sweep is fine here. There’s a difference in a sweep and a one-hit sweep. Great content as always, Scott
@jordanwise3523
@jordanwise3523 2 ай бұрын
I already know this video is gonna be amazing and probably reallllly close in time! This was a great idea for a video scott!
@brobiwankenobi6035
@brobiwankenobi6035 3 ай бұрын
As a fellow Scott, I've been binging your videos over the last week. Glad to be here on the day you post it for once!
@wowallthosemovies
@wowallthosemovies 3 ай бұрын
A Scott's Thoughts video for my birthday, and a great versus version too. Thanks so much ☀️🌙
@arjangilera
@arjangilera 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Scott for all your hard work. Enjoying every video!
@TJF588
@TJF588 2 ай бұрын
That was a blink-and-you'll-miss-it Nice on Lunatone's first Wallace level-up!
@silver_was_found
@silver_was_found 2 ай бұрын
0:48 that Venomoth arrow was hilarious, especially because it’s a rock/psychic type just like Solrock and Lunatone
@paperip1996
@paperip1996 2 ай бұрын
I'm like 80% certain that Venomoth is fire/fighting
@ultimapower6950
@ultimapower6950 29 күн бұрын
Actually there are 2 Venomoth: one Water/Dragon, the other Ghost/Dark, other than type they are identical, even having the same appearance.
@Notaflamingo
@Notaflamingo 3 ай бұрын
Week 3 of Scott throwing stones at gym leaders! I'm on the edge of my seat to see if his raging rock rampage will continue for yet another week!
@TheMoogleKing93
@TheMoogleKing93 3 ай бұрын
Rampardos vs Bastilodon Platinum?
@JaharNarishma
@JaharNarishma 2 ай бұрын
​@@TheMoogleKing93 Medicham Platinum!
@Sweepout
@Sweepout Күн бұрын
Lunatone and Solrock were always some of my faves in Gen 3 but I never used either! This was a really great one! Something I’ve noticed in your Emerald playthroughs is you pronounce “aqua” as “ackwa”. Ive never heard someone say it that way before! (I’ve only heard it as “awkwa”) lol Thanks for all your dedication in making these! :)
@heartnet40
@heartnet40 2 ай бұрын
I knew Solrock's physical stats were gonna matter a lot, but I would be bullshitting you if I said I thought it's more consistent physical hit-tanking mattered much in the long run. I was rooting for Solrock, but MAN I was surprised. Good work overall Scott!
@apache3133
@apache3133 2 ай бұрын
26:30 "As a kid I thought it was a fire type" oh Scott, we remember the Butterfree first time playthrough too :P
@robbindahood11
@robbindahood11 2 ай бұрын
Hey Scott! Might be too late for you to see this, but have you considered doing a side by side view and commentating your versus runs as both runs are visible on screen? I understand this may be more painful and problematic than it sounds, but it would be really cool to watch! Btw, I’ve been watching your vids for at least 4 years and I think you’re the goat bro, keep being awesome, you’re a rock start 🤘
@frankieinjapan
@frankieinjapan 3 ай бұрын
You played a looot of pokemon emerald for this one, Sheesh 🤣 great results. It's nice to see regular mons dominate. Really goes to show how important growth rate is
@ThunderLocke
@ThunderLocke 3 ай бұрын
Really hoping that Flamethrower Solrock comes through strong with Steven
@TheMoogleKing93
@TheMoogleKing93 3 ай бұрын
Nice to see Rollout finally getting some love!
@Dynamic256-ORIGINAL
@Dynamic256-ORIGINAL 2 ай бұрын
Congratulations for 70K subscribers!
@quasnof
@quasnof 3 ай бұрын
To me a "sweep" can be any situation where a single pokemon ends a fight by defeating at least 2 pokemon on its own without switching. Example: you struggle against the first of four pokemon using most of your team but "sweep" the remaining three with one.
@ImmacHn
@ImmacHn 3 ай бұрын
Regarding the sweep, a Clean Sweep could be the term you want to use when the Pokémon easily sweeps a team.
@WorkInProgressX
@WorkInProgressX 3 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, can’t wait to dig in. Also i see you have early access for members, nice
@zohebanjum
@zohebanjum 3 ай бұрын
YES! Rollout is so good! NOOOO! Don't ice beam the ludicolo noooo! Having lots of fun watching these Scott keep it up!
@Gungho73
@Gungho73 2 ай бұрын
This is a interesting dual challenge. I'm actually intrigued given I never really used either in my primary teams.
@eorthanes
@eorthanes 2 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see how the Fighting/Psychic Venomoth will do in emerald, since it's double type is so incredible !
@williambaker5730
@williambaker5730 2 ай бұрын
Two iconic gen 3 pokemon - so used to seeing their front sprites against tate and Liza. Weird seeing the back sprites!
@JakeTheHawk
@JakeTheHawk 2 ай бұрын
I always thought of these two as pretty useless and didn't much care for their design. As such, I never really gave them much consideration. This definitely made me appreciate them more. Thanks!
@lawfrey3859
@lawfrey3859 3 ай бұрын
Great video! I've a feeling that skipping early game trainers on a pokémon with a strong early game is nearly always a mistake. They're just so easy. Seems to often lead to a janky late game that even neutral same-type attack bonus moves would crush at higher levels. This video went a long way towards confirming that belief, at least for me.
@tefnutofhoney2832
@tefnutofhoney2832 2 ай бұрын
9:30 if you count both sides of the cycling road separately, which i do, its more like 5 routes. While theyre technically the same route, the paths are entirely disconnected
@Laprisu
@Laprisu 3 ай бұрын
now I would love it, if someone from your community would do an optimized TAS Run of Solrock and Lunatone to see what would be the absolute best case run (including crits, perfect RNG, minimum battles with minimal setup etc.) I am so sure that the times would be ridiculously low for both.
@matti1003
@matti1003 3 ай бұрын
I have two sisters and as kids our parents would always buy us all three games from each generation, which was awesome. I had Ruby for Gen 3 and loved Solrock so I'll be cheering for it today (even though generally Psychic is my favourite type)!
@shinigamimiroku3723
@shinigamimiroku3723 3 ай бұрын
Imagine having this data back when these games came out in 2003... Solrock and Lunatone would've been much more popular, to be sure. Anyway, this was definitely one of the most interesting races you've done yet. I legit had a tough time trying to decide which one would have the best time because each one had different moves to access. In the end, though, both performed admirably.
@ScottsThoughtsPokemon
@ScottsThoughtsPokemon 3 ай бұрын
I agree. This one was really close. These two are so well balanced with each other.
@nautgamingnautgaming9949
@nautgamingnautgaming9949 2 ай бұрын
​@ScottsThoughtsPokemon a very rare case of me being wrong I did KNOW everything n saw calm mind n hypnosis That being said flexibility really helped solrock here and lunatone really got screwed at Steven Substitute REALLY helped solrock get by fights it shouldn't I am pleasantly surprised solrock WAS as bulky as it was like I expected Wallace and even Juan n drake to be problems but solrock SHOCKED ME in the best way
@nautgamingnautgaming9949
@nautgamingnautgaming9949 2 ай бұрын
​@@ScottsThoughtsPokemonthe last time I was shocked by a Pokémon was sabeleye Solrock really surprised me and felt like better version of sabeleye
@mr.cauliflower3536
@mr.cauliflower3536 3 ай бұрын
I would like to once again say, this is a much better format for a vs video instead of having jumps between the 2 pokemon all the time.
@SorthCarver
@SorthCarver 3 ай бұрын
Sweep to me indicates that the opponent is "dust" that can be easily pushed out of the way. IMO your use of sweep is accurate :)
@Dark-Aclyss
@Dark-Aclyss 3 ай бұрын
One of the most fascinating topics of discussion to me is vernacular. If you’re unfamiliar with the term it loosely means ‘the way a language is spoken’ and this can apply to so many things that we say colloquially. At its core the Pokémon community would be considered part of a group or set of people who have developed their own vernacular when in reference to Pokémon. Thus the term “sweep” in Pokémon vernacular having a slightly different meaning than the “sweep” from a sports setting is perfectly okay especially since your definition for the term is quite widely used by the Pokémon community.
@BowmageSupremeNico
@BowmageSupremeNico 3 ай бұрын
I was routing my first ever emerald challenge and now Scott beat me to it, thanks for doing my research for me XD edit: not for youtube, this isn't self promotion lol
@CelticGuardian7
@CelticGuardian7 29 күн бұрын
"Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth." The truth being that these two rocks did way better than I'd have guessed!
@MayVeryWellBeep
@MayVeryWellBeep 2 ай бұрын
In my opinion (very important obviously haha) "sweep" in the context of a solo run is about moves, rather than Pokémon. In VGC, because there are multiple Pokémon per team, you can say, "I'm trying to set up to sweep with Flutter Mane", meaning, I'm going to try to pu myself into a position where Flutter Mane cannot be opposed by their team and all it will need to do is sit on the field clicking attacks until I win. In a solo run, it's the same, but with moves. Instead of setting up for a Solrock sweep, which makes no sense, you are setting up for a Shadow Ball sweep. You're going to try to set up in some way so that, if the setup succeeds, all you need to do after the setup is sit there clicking Shadow Ball knowing that you cannot be opposed, hence, a sweep.
@shammy7098
@shammy7098 3 ай бұрын
Ayy the lads, I love Solrock And Lunatone! Love seeing all these Rock types in my feed. Being a Sapphire enjoyer I saw and used a lot of Lunatone, but I always liked Solrock when i played Ruby. Probably for the better Shadow Ball and Rock Tomb. No matter who wins, they'll be even in my heart
@jamesthegaminguy
@jamesthegaminguy 3 ай бұрын
Sick matchup! Thanks Scott!
@SquirrelGamingProductions
@SquirrelGamingProductions 3 ай бұрын
Dang, Solrock should've sub-1:15'd
@passtheyaoi
@passtheyaoi 2 ай бұрын
At 36:38 Solrock has 215 friendship and return is is listed as having 94 power. the return formula should give a value of 86 bp 6 seconds later, solrock has 219 friendship and return is displayed with 95. but when you bring up the save menu, the bp of return returns to the correct value of 87 bp
@perkypenguin1663
@perkypenguin1663 2 ай бұрын
"The first four spots on the first playthrough tier list are all Rock types" Ah yes, including everyone's favorite Rock type: Medicham
@FigaroBrothers
@FigaroBrothers 3 ай бұрын
Hey Scott, great vid as always! I noticed something: when you show your "plan" throughout the route at 1:14:37 and again at the end, your moveset and level vs Steven Stone isn't included. That's fine in the first instance, since you did just show the fight, but at the very end you're showing the plan for 2 runs that we can't easily reference, for those who may want to give it a shot.
@YettisBack
@YettisBack 2 ай бұрын
A sweep is when a pokemon defeats the whole team or the rest of the team even if the pokemon are hurt. For instance your opponent has 4 pkmns left and you have 3 but you set up boosts for one of your pokemon and you then defeat the rest of the team that is still considered a sweep just a mid game sweep or end game sweep because your team revolved around setting up a pkmn after defeating the pkmns that gave that certain mon a problem. But in a solo run you’re technically sweeping everything
@JayHankEdLyon
@JayHankEdLyon 2 ай бұрын
Called it! Rock Slide, Secret Power (and Return, I misguessed) and Steven beat out any of Lunatone's advantages.
@silver_was_found
@silver_was_found 2 ай бұрын
I’ve never really thought about how cool and freaky Solrock and Lunatone look for two planet-based rocks. Lunatone in particular reminds me of some kind of strange bird.
@tb12161991
@tb12161991 3 ай бұрын
I have always understood "sweep" in the context of any video game as a series of one shots.
@TipOfTheSauce
@TipOfTheSauce 3 ай бұрын
in competitive pokemon its generally referred to as knocking out 3 or more of your opponents pokemon with very little to no resistance from them.
@adventureoflinkmk2
@adventureoflinkmk2 3 ай бұрын
Was gonna say in the baseball sense it's when say.. theres a three game series. If one team wins all three in the set then it's a sweep
@fangiscool1
@fangiscool1 3 ай бұрын
It doesn't have to be a one-shot. Just multiple KOs with one pokemon
@kode-man23
@kode-man23 3 ай бұрын
I always understood it as “knocking out your opponents remaining Pokemon” in the competitive context. Scott is still mostly correct in his line of thinking, as those generally have to be a series of outspeed and one-shots. Most “sweepers” generally aren’t capable of taking hits themselves 😂
@smilingindian989
@smilingindian989 3 ай бұрын
I think if you kept ice beam instead of psychic on Lunatone's first playthrough it would have beat Steven with only one reset because it would have 2 shot the Metagross.
@katherine9447
@katherine9447 3 ай бұрын
I'm excited that Solrock did so well. It's my favorite of the two but both still ranked much better than I was expecting.
@THEDEY2
@THEDEY2 3 ай бұрын
My intuition was correct! Solrock end-up being better because of Steven's consistency! :D btw, graphs are unreadable if you use the same color multiple times xD It might be okay if you use the same color for "not best" runs, but Lunaton 7 and Solrock 1 and 2 being the same made it impossible to know which were each
@SamGBSR
@SamGBSR 3 ай бұрын
Looks like it’ll be close! Seems like the most balanced matchup so far maybe!
@ZunkleFunkle
@ZunkleFunkle 2 ай бұрын
59:33 GOTTA love that the very last PP was possibly the most unnecessary crit ever
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